« first day (1957 days earlier)      last day (3010 days later) » 

3:36 PM
@ThomasW. trick: hit shift+enter when you need more space to insert a paragraph break.
 
3:47 PM
GrrrrBelieve me, not asking for downvotes, but I need to get rid of some steam pressure. You spent half an hour to fix, test and post an edited version of a script. Not even an upvote from OP because of additional requirements ... askubuntu.com/questions/730701/…
He's on my blacklist of people not to answer any more questions from.
 
3:59 PM
 
@muru sure.
 
@Seth thanks!
 
4:24 PM
@muru I want to talk a MOD
let us play a holi
 
Happy new year to all our Chinese fellow Ubuntu users :-)
 
@MuditKapil what's up?
 
we can american distory
 
@Rinzwind oh, is it Chinese new year?
@MuditKapil hmm?
 
@Seth yes 1/2 an hour ago
 
4:29 PM
neat!
 
funny thing: it is carneval here so it matches neatly with the Chinese celebrating
 
@Seth sky
 
@MuditKapil haha, yes, the sky :p
 
...
 
what, did the sky fall on you dino?
 
4:32 PM
@Seth berseck indian ocean
 
Is that even possible?
 
@MuditKapil you're not making much sense :)
 
3 mins ago, by jokerdino
...
 
kos
Lol.
 
Wut!? @muru's answer got accepted while I was editing my script to be ultra-flexible!?
Awww... The world is just unfair. :P
 
4:45 PM
@NathanOsman for that price I think I'd go get RED gear :p
 
0
Q: Ubuntu 15.10 snmpd permissions

user3260912Having a weird problem - I can generate traps based off snmpd defaultTriggers & DISMAN events if I stop the snmpd service and "sudo" it in the foreground, but when using -u root -gid 0 it won't run as "designed" /etc/default/snmpd: SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u root -g 0 -I -smux,mteTrigger,...

 
wait, 555fps?!
 
user136984
VTC this EOL question.
 
nice.
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda That one doesn't seem to be version-specific... I suppose we could remove the tag?
 
4:52 PM
@Seth wat
 
I take it back, I'd get that for its fps :P
 
Upgrading to 15.10 ... hold on to your butts
 
you should have done that already! :P
 
Yeah ... I should've
I haven't been on my desktop recently though :P
ACT prep and whatnot
Laptop's been on it for a while
 
user136984
VTC this EOL question.
 
user136984
@kos: Could do, but we should at least tell them that they should upgrade to a supported release...
 
user136984
Why don't EOL releases just start sprouting facial hair?
 
@Rinzwind Wooooow Apple
They just keep digging themselves deeper
 
Root cause analysis (RCA) is a method of problem solving used for identifying the root causes of faults or problems. A factor is considered a root cause if removal thereof from the problem-fault-sequence prevents the final undesirable event from recurring; whereas a causal factor is one that affects an event's outcome, but is not a root cause. Though removing a causal factor can benefit an outcome, it does not prevent its recurrence within certainty. For example, imagine an investigation into a machine that stopped because it overloaded and the fuse blew. Investigation shows that the machin...
:P
 
5:00 PM
@Rinzwind hey I can buy that. What with the NSA bugging everything. This is a fingerprint reader ya know.
They should have been smarter than to perma brick the devices though..
 
Tim
@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Can you explain?
I'm not sure what you mean
 
@Seth Yet another reason why I, at least currently, refuse to spend money on an Apple device
Not because it's bad tech, but because of their attitude
 
@RPiAwesomeness I refuse to pay for any locked portable device :=)
 
I don't like them either, but part of their "attitude" is standing up to government bullying for user data. So I respect them for that.
 
In that sense, yes, I like that
 
kos
5:02 PM
@ParanoidPanda Indeed. But Seth hammered it...
 
heck I even impoprted a Cowon MP4 player for my music (everything is open except for the firmware for the hardware to work)
 
And checking for non standard parts for security (especially the fingerprint reader) is a good idea too, just not hard bricking stuff.
 
@Rinzwind ANDROID IS ON THE RISE. WE WILL SOON BE ALMIGHTY! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
@kos what'd I do?
 
user136984
@kos: With his big fat naughty hammer... :P
 
5:03 PM
Then Ubuntu will come along and kill Android
 
kos
 
@Zacharee1 I'd rather have a niche phone that works and has no annoying other users
 
@RPiAwesomeness I guess it is good tech, but still two-year-behind tech
@Rinzwind ?
 
@kos oh, yeah. That was a terrible question and it wasn't immediately obvious what the root issue was.
 
5:05 PM
do I... want to see that?
 
@Zacharee1 I rather have an Ubuntu phone that has a 1% market share than one that has 100% market shate ;-)
 
@Seth It's SNL, do you not?
@Rinzwind That's the hipster in you :p
 
@Zacharee1 nope. If it gets 100% it''ll also atract the weirdo's :=) The people that think they need to kill others stuff to have a good life ;-)
 
SNL last night had Larry David (the Sanders impersonator) as the host. They also actually had Sanders on for one of the sketches
@Rinzwind Let's hope the phones never become pretty enough to get the iPhone users who literally buy because of that factor (yes, this is true)
 
kos
@Seth Indeed, I was only thinking of removing since I doubt it would be a version-specific issue.
 
5:07 PM
@Zacharee1 I know 2 well 1 nowadays (1 switched to the new MS)
 
@Rinzwind An Apple user going to MS?!
wow
So apparently the one justification for getting a Mac doesn't exist anymore (since like 2012)
 
no. a phone user using an apple going to MS ;-)
He is my boss so lots of money to waste :=)
 
The IPS screens supposedly warp colors, meaning Macs no longer work for photo or video editing
@Rinzwind How'd you do that, without my name there?
Question: should I learn Portuguese or German as my next language?
 
@Zacharee1 you aint my boss. he is doing Carnaval at the moment so he's wasted
 
wat
 
5:11 PM
@Zacharee1 depens if you want to go to south america
 
@Rinzwind I already know Spanish
sort of :p
 
so then you do not need portuguese :=)
 
I'm learning it in school
@Rinzwind good point
 
and italian should be a breeze too then
 
Deutsch, hier komme Ich
 
5:12 PM
eh wrong >:)
 
I know
I know.
 
lol
 
there
I think I need to learn why the pronoun comes after the verb...
GAH ESSAY
 
bbl :-) food time
 
Dual monitors are underrated
@Rinzwind It's why I need to learn German, and not from an American teacher who doesn't know what he's doing :p
 
5:15 PM
@Zacharee1 all my monitors are dual monitors :)
 
@JacobVlijm Then you're doing it right :D :p
 
@muru: During this community wiki lockdown period (due to sustained sabotage attacks), if you e-mail the doc team at ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com with the page link and specific instructions as to what should be changed, then I'm sure an administrator that still has edit access will do it for you.
 
I really need to get a monitor for school
 
..... Even the single ones.
 
@JacobVlijm wat
 
5:16 PM
just kidding, the usual non- sense
 
ah lol
So I'm writing a persuasive essay on why you (hypothetical use) should get a flatscreen TV, but I can't come up with a creative title :/
 
@DougSmythies Hey. Seen the latest edit (multi-file support) on the ASCII checker?
 
@muru: However, be aware that there can be a delay in mail delivery if you are not on the list, as I think there is then a moderator approval step.
 
Oh, it's dinner time. I'm off for today. o/
 
@ByteCommander: I had not. Thanks.
 
5:19 PM
Dinner here too :)
 
@ByteCommander: multi-file support is important, as we want to check the entire source code with one comand.
 
huh, a file transfer that took 2 minutes on windows just took 15 seconds on Ubuntu o_O
that's a big difference.
 
@Seth I've said many times that Ubuntu is like 8 times as fast as Windows :p
 
lol Ubuntu lets me compress a folder as an .exe xD
 
lol
well EXEs can be archives
 
5:31 PM
@DougSmythies Thanks for the tip. I'll try that. :)
 
@Seth always fun sending a file as an .exe to another user that is an archive. (at work we all know to use "file" when one of us sends it around :D )
 
haha yeah, freaks them out xD
 
5:56 PM
@Seth I am an alcoholic love my country pls kill me with benzo
@Seth seriously i don't know
@Seth @muru
@RPiAwesomeness I don't know really what is isis what is norton mcafee
 
@Seth He's acting up again
 
@Rinzwind I REALLY dont know
@Rinzwind I am really an alcoholic much to my abusement
 
What's going on here?
 
ok
 
???
 
6:13 PM
@muru @ByteCommander @kos: Oh crap. I found errors in the Ubuntu serverguide master source code .xml files with the improved ascii checker commands. (actually, "oh, good", as that was the point after all. Now they will get fixed.)
 
Hmm.
 
@Seth Yes correct
 
What even is the chat right now?
 
@Seth let us discuss on video codecs
 
@MuditKapil I suggest you step away then before it gets any worse :)
 
6:17 PM
@Seth my life is all worse let us talk about seals
 
@Seth what is this?
 
I think you need to take a break Mudit.
 
👌👌👌
 
O_o
 
:ok-hand:
 
kos
6:19 PM
@DougSmythies Glad to hear :) I suppose you ended up using muru's method, am I right?
 
So confused
 
@jokerdino too much slack for you ;p
 
I never say no to free entertainment.
 
@jokerdino Oh I have one for you
4 people in a car. 1 is suspected to be armed and dangerous
4 cops with dogs around them with guns out.
Now you get FIVE guesses what happens next and THEN you may watch the video
and a warning: you may die from laughing after watching
 
A group of tiny toddlers?
 
6:30 PM
No full grown men :=)
 
@kos: Yes. However, I did upvote your answer. I am now attempting to use @ByteCommander 's script to check the 65 or so translated languages .xml files for valid utf-8 all with the one command.
 
I think it is an ad shoot for the car.
 
kos
@Rinzwind They should have shot the tires in first place. -.-
 
@jokerdino nah that actually happend. Dutch police are whimps.
 
So, they didn't arrest any one?
 
kos
6:34 PM
@DougSmythies Thanks. The grep solution is probably going to be the fastest, and anyway it's the most simple one, so I'd say is the best one, though Byte Commander's answer is interesting, it has a wide range of possible uses.
 
o/
any Z shell user here?
 
hi
 
@jokerdino well... they arrested 1 of them :D
@edwardtorvalds what you ran out of the WHOLE alphabet of shells and ended up with Z and are still unhappy?
 
@Rinzwind I am very very happy with Z shell :D
but had a question :-)
 
it's usually just best to ask it ;)
 
6:42 PM
@Seth I agree :=)
 
kos
@Rinzwind I takes only trying "C", and I haven't heard good things about it. :P
Ah no, "A" also
And "K" also. And apparently there's also a "B" shell and who knows what else. Forget about it -.-
 
7:06 PM
Who else hates network extenders, at least when they're preferred over a stronger tower signal?
 
@ThomasW. thanks for looking into that. I'm not a Debian Developer though - just the maintainer. I looked into becoming one at one point and discovered that I need my GPG key signed by at least two other Debian Developers before I could be considered.
 
Where root does everything!!!
 
Lol
@Mitch has become the AU comedy bot
 
lol
 
7:15 PM
Peer 1 has a datacenter here and they're hiring... but they're looking for a degree I don't have :(
 
@NathanOsman tries to come up with a temperature or geometry joke
 
> Required experience:
>
> Linux Guru: 1 year
Am I a "Linux guru"?
 
@NathanOsman You sure are.
 
@NathanOsman Anyone that puts "linux guru" as a job requirement would have me highly suspicious.
have you considered getting a linux sysadmin cert from the linux foundation though?
 
Worth looking into I guess.
 
7:23 PM
Hi everyone. I did the most awful thing. Something like: askubuntu.com/questions/452738/… :(
Similar things have as you see already been asked, so I just wanted to get some advice herre if thats alright
Wanted to try TestDisk, but do I do that using Ubuntu live usb?
 
ouch. That's.. practically impossible to recover from.
2
 
kos
@Ingrid Did you let the command run till completion?
 
@Ingrid that's what I would do.
 
no, I cancelled as soon as I realised it wasn't doing what I wanted it to.. (erasing a usb drive). was on the phone at the same time as doing it. not a good idea obviously...
understood there might be a chance of there being something left of my files, so I thought I'd give it a try
ok, I'll give it a go, thanks!
 
No command 'Sudo' found, did you mean:
Command 'sudo' from package 'sudo-ldap' (universe)
Command 'sudo' from package 'sudo' (main)
Command 'udo' from package 'udo' (universe)
Sudo: command not found
 
7:28 PM
Well, upgrade to 15.10 seems to have been fine
 
15.10 is nice
 
kos
@Ingrid Still testdisk probably won't avail. Filesystem entries are stored at the start of the disk, and that command wipes the disk starting from the start. You should be able to recover the files using photorec, but the problem is photorec doesn't recover metadata (no filename just to start).
 
16.04 is cool - but I'm waiting till they sort out the nautilus stuff - I hear they are just going to use the old nautilus version
and gedit, and document viewer, and other nice feature rich utilities that they have messed up
 
Oh, are they reverting changes?
 
@Mateo I wish they would just use thunar as the default.
 
7:30 PM
all the removing menus - making hamburger menus - csd decorations stuff
 
I like gedit but I wouldn't mind if they replaced that as well, if only to get away from all that GNOME nonsense.
 
@kos Oh, right... so I might try photorec? so it can recover the files but without the filenames basically?
 
@Seth Doesn't Elementary use Thunar?
 
@RPiAwesomeness no idea what Elementary uses.
 
@RPiAwesomeness right now in alpha its a mix and match - close buttons on random sides even on some of the gnome apps
 
7:32 PM
lol
 
or no minimize button
 
Ah, nope. They use Pantheon, a fork of Merlin
Gosh, so many different file managers
 
xubuntu uses thunar right?
mate?
 
Pantheon is a file manager too?
 
PCManFM, Merlin, Pantheon, Thunar, Nautilus
 
7:33 PM
@Mateo yeah
heh, so Pantheon uses Pantheon.
@Mateo Mate uses caja it seems.
 
nemo, dolphin
@Seth that one looks nice
 
kos
@Ingrid Without the filename and without any other attribute, but there are other caveats: 1- If your disk was fragmented enough chances are that a number of files used to have at least some data in the wiped section, i.e. some file might be corrupted. 2- You have to specify formats, such as specific containers for video files etc... Anything matching the specified formats is recovered. You'll need quite a bit of disk space to do that.
3- Forget about recovering text files. There are just too many. Unless you have a way to filter out the recovered files they'll likely get lost among the others. You can try though.
 
nemo might be a good choice
 
7:49 PM
haha, then you can have people eject the battery out of their phone like a clip
making a call and holding it by the sides... battery falls out ;P
 
Lol.
 
@RPiAwesomeness @NathanOsman either of you making scopes?
 
I was.
Still figuring out how the Go scopes work.
 
I stuck with the c++ one - since there is a tutorial scope to work off of, and I already figured out how to use that
 
@kos Ok, I should try at least. Maybe easier for images at least. But I gather Photorec is my only hope? No chances with Testdisk?
 
7:54 PM
anything the zeros hit there is no chance with anything (baring a few grand worth of forensic stuff )
 
@Mateo Something makes me think it'll be a little more robust than an iPhone
 
@Ingrid the only good thing is that it was stopped before it finished - files after what was zeroed out might be found
 
@Mateo Ok, I'll hope for the best. I didn't stop it too fast though, so I'm not keeping my hopes too high.
 
kos
@Ingrid Even a second of dd running full speed on a regular hard drive is enough to destroy the filesystem of the first partition. Which is your partition layout though? If you have the partition you wish to recover the data from close enough to the end of the disk you might be able to use testdisk.
 
Multiple monitors may not be underrated, but removable batteries on phones definitely are
 
8:00 PM
@kos ah, well it's strange because it went on for some time. I was thinking it'd be quick, considering I thought it was on the usb stick, but it never ended. So maybe there's not much hope then.
 
Sure, the iPhone can charge from 10 to 100 in 40 minutes, but I can do it instantly with my phone
 
@kos Actually I don't know my partition layout sadly. Is there a way to find out? I think I might just have had one partition :/
@Mateo @kos Will any Ubuntu version work for the live usb? I had Lubuntu 14.04 on the computer.
 
sure you can make live usb's with the the other flavors
 
kos
@Ingrid testdisk has an option to discover partitions, I would try detecting the partition and try to recover the files that way first, and then going for photorec if no avail.
 
@Mateo ok, thanks
 
kos
8:07 PM
Didn't we have a canonical Q/A about testdisk?
 
@kos ok, great. So I'll use the live usb (I guess that means without installing?), download testdisk and try that first, and then photorec possibly. Sorry for asking so much, want to try to do things the right way now instead of experimenting with things I don't know again...
 
kos
@Ingrid That's perfectly understandable, there's no problem. But absolutely do not install anything on the drive, that would overwrite both intact and corrupted files still on the drive with the new files coming from the installation. Yes, remember you'll have to keep a drive to store the recovered files handy (you can't obviously use the same drive to store the recovered files).
And you should make sure the drive will be able to store all the recovered files, so you'll have to estimate that beforehand.
 
@kos Ok, got it :)
 
@Mateo I'm gonna try. I've been busy with ACT prep
 
ah, not the best timing for students on this contest then huh...
I saw a few other cool looking scopes posted on g+ should be fun
 
kos
8:18 PM
@Ingrid This might help for photorec (it's an old answer of mine), I can't find a Q/A about testdisk. In any case good luck!
@Ingrid Silly me, I skipped it: askubuntu.com/a/286206/380067
 
@kos ok, thanks a lot!
 
kos
@Ingrid Np! Let us know how it went. :)
 
8:43 PM
@NathanOsman Then you'll have to hunt down sponsors each time
@NathanOsman I'll throw the package up on the sponsoring list or now - in any case it'll eventually get looked at
@NathanOsman given enough merges from Debian, I may be able to get per-package upload rights too, so then I can help :P
maybe
 
I'm grateful for whatever you can do - thanks.
 
@NathanOsman just ping me every time there's an upload - if it's bugfix only it should be mergeable, but FeatureFreeze comes up in a couple weeks or so
after that time it'll have to wait for next cycle in most likelihood
(unless it qualifies for a FeatureFreeze Exemption)
my email's my LP username at ubuntu.com
:)
 
I'm happy with the current version as-is right now.
So I don't think I'll be uploading any new versions before 16.04 ships.
 
cool
even then let me know ;)
'cause I can poke it for the 16.10 cycle
 
Okay, perfect.
 
8:50 PM
and prep merges
and then with enough work, I may be able to apply for PPU rights for it
:p
 
Is there a directory of where Debian developers live? :) It sounds like I need to meet them in person to have my key signed.
 
no idea
 
Hrm. I keep getting phantom notification pings.
 
who knows, if Nathan keeps being awesome and making nitroshare better they may make him a DD just to him out of their hair :p
@NathanOsman chat notifications have been acting weird for a while now.
 
I seem to have broken my second battery :/
Good thing I have a third
 
9:08 PM
How do you break a battery?
 
^
 
@NathanOsman You let it charge overnight for half a year, and charge it when it's above 90% :p
 
what kind of battery is this?!
It's gotta be pretty old stuff for that to be an issue..
 
@Seth SAMSUNG
@Seth You're definitely not supposed to leave a battery charging overnight, especially since it stays plugged in at 100% for hours.
 
well you should have a smart charger..
 
9:11 PM
That does damage it
@Seth I leave the phone on
so it discharges a tiny bit, recharges, discharges, recharges
not good for it
 
once it reaches 100% the phone should stop charging it and only draw enough current from the charger to power whatever the phone needs. Theoretically anyhow.
Just like a laptop.
 
@Seth guess not with Samsung ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Or any smartphone I've had...
Except maybe LG
 
That doesn't make any sense. I leave my phone plugged in for most of the day at my desk. No issues.
Batteries do get old though.
 
@Seth this battery is I think 9 months old -- a replacement from Verizon after 5.0 literally killed my first battery (15%+ drain/hr)
But now I'm using an Anker battery, which seems a lot better
 
Yeah, Anker is good.
 
user136984
9:29 PM
I called the NHS 111 service about my cough and sore throat today, and at least 3 people asked me if I had been taking any illegal drugs... :D
 
 
user136984
Anyway, goodnight! :)
 
Current state of my GSIII
 
9:42 PM
What did you take that with, an iPhone?
Or another Galaxy? I know both tend to get pastelly in low light.
 
@kos Tried Testdisk now and it couldn't find any files on the disk (I had only one partition).. I guess that means there's no use trying anything else with Testdisk. Tried recovering partition table, but don't get what it's actually doing and where, so it didn't help me (and I guessed it wasn't worth looking into it further) Will try Photorec tomorrow
 
@Zacharee1 Moto G 2013.
The iPhone is actually pretty decent at low light. Or at least the older ones were..
@Ingrid This is why you always always have backups :)
 
Not anymore...
 
@Seth yep. I should get some kind of system for continually backing up my stuff. as it was now, my last backup was from a few months back. can't be bothered to do it too often
@Seth But in future maybe I will :)
 
@Ingrid what I would do is get a Raspberry Pi (or equivalent) and a HDD and then have deja dup back up to that (over the network) weekly.
 
9:55 PM
@Seth Oh right, sounds interesting! Will look into this. I've done similar stupid things before, so it's definitely worth it. Love Linux, but sometimes you get a bit carried away with what you think you can handle... ;)
 
@Ingrid We've all done something similar at one point or another :)
 
kos
@Ingrid Yeah it was predictable. You should have better luck with photorec though. I did a similar silly mistake once and with photorec I've been able to recover almost all of my picures... as long as somthing is in the non-wiped section you should be able to recover it.
 
@Seth Thanks, I feel a bit better :)
@kos OK, sounds promising - I'll take a look, thanks again! Really thankful for all you guys here taking time to help.
 

« first day (1957 days earlier)      last day (3010 days later) »