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12:22 AM
@Seth why didnt i get bounty for askubuntu.com/questions/141162/…
@Oli
hi i have a cisco 877w how do i set it up and put it in wireless bridge mode
 
@basketball The person who put the bounty said it didn't work for them, so they didn't award it. It will just "disappear" on its own quite soon.
 
seth do you know how to set that up ^^^^^^
 
nope.
 
o/ @hbdgaf
 
12:37 AM
so i'm building the gif2png thing. code will be up in a couple of days for at least the splitter.
 
sweet.
 
@Seth Yeah, I've never been a huge fan of GoDaddy except they seemed to have the best prices. Well, until now, that is.
Thankfully my important domain names are hosted through an Enom reseller.
 
how do i have 2 routers one is dd wrt supported and one is not with one modem
without running a cable
 
12:54 AM
> Thank you for reviewing 20 close votes today; come back in 23 hours to continue reviewing.
 
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A: Escape character ^] not working from Mac terminal

codecowboyTurns out if I hit return after Ctrl+] it works.

I'm not sure I have anything to say for that one.
 
 
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2:38 AM
@MinatoNamikaze Good Morning
 
@Utkarsh Good Morning ^_^
 
.io domain names are expensive.
 
are they?
 
I'm being quoted $65 from namecheap.com.
 
yikes!
 
2:43 AM
Lol... epic domain name:
 
If @MarcoCeppi appears, ping me please.
@NathanOsman LOL
 
@MinatoNamikaze You're from Bangalore? I thought you are from Chennai ;p
 
@Utkarsh yes
Can't talk, gotta go to school :P
 
Bye!
 
3:03 AM
@Braiam I've confirmed it in irc that you can't fix the community site, the content goes into the wp db.
So I guess I don't need to talk to Marco anymore.
 
3:21 AM
@NathanOsman okey
@Seth told you :P
(well, not really, but saw something fishy)
 
sorta.
 
3:38 AM
sigh. Why do people sign their questions as if it's a letter?
 
XD
 
@Seth because users
You people seriously underestimate just how bad the suggested edit problem is on Stack Overflow. — BoltClock's a Unicorn Feb 26 at 7:09
 
 
3 hours later…
7:17 AM
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Q: You must have at least 5 reputation on Ask Ubuntu to ask a question

user259419Really? Why can't I report a bug on meta?...the site where bugs/feedback BELONG. I'm preparing a bug report & you are hindering my efforts...I have screenshots & everything! You are FORCING me to post this useless spam on this site, instead of putting a GOOD bug report where it belongs. Why? I ...

 
7:31 AM
Under 18 users with 1k+ rep, umm.... basically kids.data.stackexchange.com/meta.askubuntu/query/175471/…
 
8:29 AM
0
Q: What can we do if someone overdoes with gratitude?

DanatelaIt is good when people show their gratitude accepting answers. But how to deal with those who want to overgive their thankfulness and start upvoting the helper person's answers in despite of favor to them personally? I know that serial up-voting rolls back, even with damage to reputation… That's...

 
0
Q: Whenever i execute the script it add this line *(rw,no_root_squash,async,insecure).

rajcoumarFriends, I am doing NFS share in shell scripts. Installing, creating a directory and export this directory into /etc/exports file. I did command line argument in the script so execute like this only ./nfsshare.sh --nfs-path test1 --write true Here true means rw mode False means ro mode ...

 
8:48 AM
@AskUbuntuMeta depends... if they are a masochist do not hit them with a rod. If they are not you can hit them with a rod
 
Anybody here?
 
@Mateo - pastebin.com/0EXiYrgB <-- Animated gif to Pngs and delay parameter. Next up plymouth template and the GUI.
 
My Askubuntu meta profile does not have same bio info like my Askubuntu main profile.
How could it be fixed?
I also tried changing my meta SE profile but it doesn't help
 
There's a save button and a save to everywhere button when you edit your profile
 
 
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11:03 AM
@Oli why you deleted that?
 
Oli
@AvinashRaj I've deleted that question on the offchance that somebody might run it.
It deletes your home directory. Not a very smart thing to post.
 
i explained don't run this command on top.
 
@Oli naaa. deleting home is harmless :=)
 
Oli
@AvinashRaj A successful fork bomb means you need to restart. Deleting your home is permanent. They're not alike.
 
as long as you do not have personal files >:D
I once scared my to death by doing a "rm *" in /home/rinzwind/ _O-
but a reboot recreated all the files I deleted _O-
 
11:07 AM
people should be aware of that command.**Oh we don't run this command**
 
this sounds like he is hibernating:
0
Q: Boot, reboot from win 8.1 error

OlofI have win 8.1 and Ubuntu 13.10 installed, both are working fine but.. When coming from win-8 and rebooting the PC I will get an "Error: no boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed". I then have to go in to BIOS and change the start sequence to "Ubuntu" and it will stay that way until ...

 
Oli
@AvinashRaj It's also not a mystery how it works. Anybody who's been listening for longer than ten minutes knows ~ means $HOME and that moving something to /dev/null will nuke it. You might as well ask what sudo rm -rf / does (edit: that was sarcasm, please don't)
 
we have "rm" aliased to an scp command that moves the file to another system :D
 
Oli
@Rinzwind Doesn't Win8 have that dodgy quickboot thing where it does a quasi-hibernate to boot up things faster? I seem to remember seeing something about disabling that in dual boots but I've no actual experience with it.
 
@Oli yes. I assumed that was called hibernate too D:
I saw an option to turn that off last weekend
OH I got a good one
 
11:10 AM
/dev/null represents what?
 
I made 100 usd last weekend. Someone wanted to restore his win 8 notebook
he gave it to me and went away. All I had to do was ALT + F10 _o-
easiest 100 usd ever :D
@AvinashRaj oblivion
 
oblivion??
 
things sent to /dev/null disappear from your system :=) (those files are nullified )
 
Oli
@AvinashRaj That's a question worth asking. (You could even add something about moving things to /dev/null and what that does - just stop short of the possibility of somebody wiping out their life's work)
They both seem to be more about redirecting (their answers cover it but their questions don't quite)
 
hmm yeah :P
Ill find a better one >:)
 
11:13 AM
ok i'm going to ask.
 
so many results but all are about redirecting :P
 
Oli
Was I being silly? Can you actually move things to /dev/null? I've just been playing around and it won't delete things...
@AvinashRaj Have you tested what you're asking? mkdir test; mv test /dev/null
Doesn't work for me...
 
no
does it not have to be: mkdir test; mv test >/dev/null
since you can not create regular files in /dev/
 
i check files but i didn't checked the directories.
 
Oli
11:22 AM
And it turns out your first had a very old dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/192702/can-recover-file-from-dev-null
 
Anybody knows how to build this popcorn-time fork(series support). It uses grunt just like the original. But, i can't seem to build it.
 
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Q: Moving a file or directory to /dev/null

Avinash RajI accidentally moved a directory to /dev/null. It suddenly disappears. Where it goes? Should i able to get it back?

there it is Oli
you want it? :D
 
Oli
Read up... I'm questioning if you can actually mv things to /dev/null... I think it only accepts redirects.
 
@Oli but you said mv ~ /dev/null moves the whole home directory to garbage.
 
Oli
@AvinashRaj I said
 
11:24 AM
mkdir test; mv test /dev/null
mkdir: cannot create directory `test': File exists
mv: inter-device move failed: `test' to `/dev/null'; unable to remove target: Permission denied
:=)
 
Oli
I may, this once, for the very first time in my long history here... have been wrong.
 
me also getting the same error
 
@Seth what you want
 
I'll not star that message @oli ;-)
 
how?
 
Oli
11:25 AM
I still wouldn't test mving ~ in a million years.
 
@Oli created a 2nd user, log in on it. check cd ~ goes to that user. and then do mv ~ ? >:D
lol
lunch time :=) bbl
 
@Rinzwind only a superuser can be able to move a directory to /dev/null?
did i have to login as another user to move the test directory to /dev/null ?'
 
@AvinashRaj Ofcourse. But I knew it would fail upfront ;=) I do not take mv lightly :=D
2nd attempt to going to lunch :D
 
Bye
@blade19899 did the /dev/null accepts the data or not?
 
Oli
@AvinashRaj If a superuser did it, they would replace /dev/null with a directory (AFAICT)
 
11:37 AM
you mean, i have to login as root user to move the test directory to /dev/null
 
Oli
11:51 AM
@AvinashRaj No, I mean it would replace the /dev/null file (which is just a special file) with a real directory.
 
0
Q: Why people says don't do this?

Avinash RajWhile i trying to move a test_dir directory to /dev/null, it says mv: cannot overwrite non-directory ‘/dev/null’ with directory ‘test_dir/’ Then why people says "don't run this command sudo mv ~ /dev/null, it will moves your home directory to a hole? But /home is also a directory.

 
0
Q: How to fix boot into initramfs prompt and "mount: can't read '/etc/fstab': No such file or directory" and "No init found"?

Pro BackupInstalling a new system using a GPT partitioned disk dedicated to a single partition, ext4 formatted, extlinux (version 4.05) as bootloader, Ubuntu Core version 13.10 amd64 as rootfs, and Ubuntu linux-image-3.11.0-18-generic as kernel, and extlinux-update to generate bootloader configuration. Th...

 
12:18 PM
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Q: mv a file to /dev/null breaks dev/null

Gregg LeventhalIf I do: touch file; mv file /dev/null as root, /dev/null disappears. ls -lad /dev/null results in no such file or directory. This breaks applications which depend on /dev/null like SSH and can be resolved by doing mknod /dev/null c 1 3; chmod 666 /dev/null. Why does moving a regular file to t...

 
So many /dev/null questions. Ahahahaha :-)
@Oli why we close this ?
 
12:46 PM
@Oli so this askubuntu.com/questions/192702/can-recover-file-from-dev-null question is wrong and the other two answers are also wrong.Am i correct?
 
1:12 PM
please delete this askubuntu.com/questions/435851/… question.I'm wrong.
 
Hey Ubuntuians! :-P I'm a tourist from other Stack Exchange sites. I come here to ask: Why did you choose Ubuntu over Mint?
 
hmm - you come to a ubuntu site and ask that ?!
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@Doorknob shh! I'm using Debian :P
 
sending Braiam to /dev/null
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@foss Yes :-P I want to know the advantages of Ubuntu, since I've found lots of advantages for Mint elsewhere and want a balance :-P
 
1:18 PM
balance is perhaps not what you will get here. I havent found anywhere where there is a sound "mint is better than ubuntu" argument. Horses for courses - what you do and how you do it dictates what operating system you should use.
 
Oli
@Doorknob I've just never found a reason not to. Everything that I need works and everything that doesn't, I know where to find the people I need to torture in order to get it working again. Oh and it means I get to ask questions on Ask Ubuntu. That's a pretty serious advantage :P
 
Hmm. @foss So, what do you think is the main difference between them? What is Ubuntu made for, and what is Mint for? @Oli But isn't that a valid argument for Mint too?
 
Oli
These days the difference seems to be a desktop holy war... I'm a bit removed from that already, being a Kubuntu user.
@Doorknob Maybe... Perhaps it's the difference between a tender pork chop and delicious (but mysterious) processed salami. Ubuntu has the infrastructure, the community, the people. Mint takes that and does a few things differently. If those are things I needed, I'd probably be a Mint user but they aren't. Most of my Ubuntu installs are server installs.
Not being a Mint user I'm not sure I'm the best person to ask about the advantages of Mint or what Mint is for. What would you say Mint brings that Ubuntu doesn't?
 
@Doorknob I've never used Mint and never had to investigate too much. I perhaps just perceive Mint as another desktop environment with enough tweaks and tucks to make it distinctive enough to warrant any Q&A here mostly in the questionable category because we have no real knowledge as to what the hell they have changed and why.
 
@Oli From what I've seen, it's mainly performance and more customizability and extensibility. Although I may be biased as a programmer ;-)
 
1:25 PM
performance?
 
At least that's what I've seen on several sites during my search.
 
Oli
@Doorknob These are desktop traits. I'm a KDE user. You can't talk to me about "customizabilty" (if that's even a word). KDE/KWIN performance is pretty decent too.
 
So, what you're basically saying is that the desktop makes all the difference? (My phone tells me that's a word, anyway :-P)
 
yep - as I said - whatever interface works best for you.
 
Alright, well thanks for the detailed responses, everyone! I'm going to have to do some more investigation before I decide. Again, thanks for responding :-)
 
1:33 PM
@Doorknob remember there's always the live-cd way :P
 
Also look at the upgrade path from one mint version to another - as far as I understand, the supported route is a fresh install each time - so you will need to be prepared to do that regularly.
 
I am going to change my question to " I am going to move my directory to /dev/null. Is this possible"
 
that qestion is wrong
 
1:45 PM
^^^ too vague IMHO - I dont see the need. If you were going to ask a question - wouldnt it be about a specific O/S rather than some bland general question?
 
@fossfreedom Basically it's for learning how OS work.
 
Oli
@fossfreedom Looks like the academic side of things. Isn't there a CMPSCI site already that this stuff fits into?
 
I think Computer Science has some of those topics already
 
Oli
CS, yeah that's it. They have a cstheory sub-site as well... I'm wondering what they've got against having a site that covers more than half a topic.
 
most of the followers are SO' users
 
1:49 PM
That's the same relation between U&L and AU.
 
@AdityaPatil there are some very specific quirks that can only be answered in AU
 
@Oli ^
 
for example, ubuntu-touch and the SDK
 
I don't think ubuntu-touch would be off topic on U&L
 
Oli
@AdityaPatil The U&L help suggests overtly ubuntu topics should be on Ask Ubuntu
 
1:52 PM
That's because AU exists.BTW which one came first?
 
Oli
@AdityaPatil ubuntu.se was suggested 16 days after unix.se
 
Do any of these answers work askubuntu.com/q/430272/184942
 
@Oli Its Askubuntu
 
Dan
@AdityaPatil That's on meta. To be fair there isn't much to vote on. So people with high rep will most likely show on top.
 
2:09 PM
Time to Fight!
 
Oli
@Utkarsh Because you've been politely asked not to at least five hundred times.
 
Ubuntu is more stable than Mint (as in longivitty) I do not know who is behind Mint, I do know who is behind Ubuntu. For all I know Mint is discontinued next week.
I can not afford to run servers on a non-official OS
 
Okay drop it
I dont want to fight
 
Oli
Le sigh.
 
Oli! you doing French? :=)
 
Oli
2:15 PM
Were you not in here yesterday afternoon? We had Terdon doing real French, jokerdino doing bad French, every single brand of compose-key nonsense under the sun... It was like a Friday afternoon but at the beginning of the week. Madness.
brb, need to feed the chickens (no, not a euphemism)
 
I can do every language, as long as I have my secret tool (g**** t****)
 
Oli
Gina Torres?
Giant Tiger?
 
naa 1st word is 5 letters!
so can't be Google either >:)
Giant Tiger fits though!
 
No it is not fixed to letters
any number of letters
 
yes it is otherwise G* T* would suffice >:)
 
Oli
2:25 PM
Maybe it's a regex... I know I can't program without my ggggggg tt
Hmm, this is how it started yesterday. I seem to remember it being @Braiam's fault.
22 hours ago, by Braiam
lol, CfH mail this week was awesome
And shortly beforehand @Utkarsh had asked why he had been banned (like today)
As long as nobody walks in with another word like haberdasheries, we should be fine.
 
@MinatoNamikaze Is that name just a cover or are you an Indian Japanese or Japanese Indian?
 
@AdityaPatil It's a cover dammit xD
It's the name of Naruto's father
 
is there an easy method to get the pts from fuser ?
 
@AdityaPatil Gnome toolkit?
 
@Doorknob And remember, if you go with Ubuntu you can have all the Mint desktops while still being able to ask questions here ;P
 
2:38 PM
 
@Oli yeah, always my fault D:
 
@Rinzwind ?
 
@MinatoNamikaze fuser shows me 98 process-ids that lock a file... I need to the pts to check if that process is logged in (and not a lock due to a crashed client that is still active on the server)
 
@Rinzwind You mean easy way to get point from user?
 
@Oli will fewmets do?
 
2:44 PM
@Rinzwind Oh so fuser--> get pid--> use ps to find the tty it's on?
 
yes well not tty but pts ;-)
why cant fuser show just the pids 1 line at a time? then I could just pipe it :P
 
Oli
Ohhai! It looks like you're writing an awk statement
 
lol
I hate awk :(
 
Oli
Bash needs a little helper mascot to annoy people :)
 
Sorry :P
You need awk xD
 
Oli
2:50 PM
@Rinzwind If you can give us an example input line (or a command that generates one) we can write you an awk filter
 
@AdityaPatil IMO is easier with upstart and systemd
 
@Oli next time.I got lucky
the 2nd one was the culprit >:-)
 
Oli
@terdon That's a good looking word. Struggling to pronounce it in a non-French way though. "ffew-metz" sounds much weirder than "fumay", any idea where it comes from?
 
@Oli It's one of my favorite "weird" words, it means the spoor of an animal and I picked it up as a kid from The Sword in the Stone
 
Oli
EtymOnline has failed me :(
 
2:52 PM
T. H. White.
@Oli huh? really!
 
fuser $FILE 2>/dev/null
 
@Oli Dictionaries have it but I saw no etymology. Hmm.
@MinatoNamikaze quote your variables!
 
@Oli nice >:) Ill expand on that >:)
oops wrong person sorry Oli
 
Wait. Are we going back to French again?
 
non @jokerdino
 
2:57 PM
Good. I dont want to intentionally annoy people with my French.
 
@Rinzwind I have a solution :D
fuser . 2>/dev/null|sed 's/ /\n/g'
This one prints all the pid's with newlines between them
 
@Oli here you go, very nice little post on the etymology of fewmets: eggcorns.lascribe.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5872
 
Ask Ubuntu General Room:- General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu, official Ubuntu derivatives and French.
 
Oli
"Discussions about eggcorns and related topics" I don't know where I am. I need an adult.
 
so we can nuke french.se?
 
2:59 PM
@Oli wait till you get to the part about "presenting the turds to the queen"
@Braiam @AvinashRaj why did you guys close this? What makes you think the OP is using an end of life release?
 
No don't nuke.Traditional weapons are better.
 
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Q: weird caracters in Terminal

bernaulliWhen I try to run command in ubuntu I get the garbage characters appear on command line. Please look at the image the line of characters are repetation [[-^ repeating it many times. How do I fix this problem?

 
@terdon lol too basic
 
@terdon caracters?
 
Oli
I'm still chuckling at the book titled "The Origin of Feces".
 
3:00 PM
@Oli yes! Great little post that one
@MinatoNamikaze characters
 
@terdon he is probably not using bash. an arrow up will show as [[
 
Please reopen, granted the OP probably has a stuck key
@Rinzwind so? Other shells are on topic and anyway that looks like Ctrl, something
 
@terdon check the tags
 
It also happens with any version of ubuntu or linux, for exeample it also happen with ubuntu LTS and saucy release.. — bernaulli 6 hours ago
 
> 6 hours ago
voted to close mar 15
 
3:02 PM
@Braiam yeah, but you removed the 13.04 tag so there is no indication of why this was closed.
 
@terdon True but that would make it a dupe >:-D
 
@Rinzwind fine, it's the off topic that bugs me. Even if the OP were using an older release, this is certainly not a release-specific issue. It seems strange to close it.
 
@hbdgaf awesome, I'll give it a test run later.
 
well, look at the bright side @terdon, he upgraded! D:
 
lol
You guys and your obsession with upgrading ;)
 
3:05 PM
well, yeh, you do when people ask about 6.10 :/
 
Anyone remember what service ux.SE was using for UI mockup?
 
@Braiam :D
 
@jokerdino was it the online one?
 
Yeah
I am not sure if it was free though
 
I still can do 1 better:
$ cat -v /etc/*release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06
DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS"
 
3:06 PM
Balsamiq?
 
Oli
@jokerdino That's certainly one of them. That's the one Canonical uses, I think... Or used to, anyway.
 
They only have a .deb file. I need a RPM damnit
 
@jokerdino alien?
 
@Oli Have you tried it?
 
Oli
Yeah they use Balsamique too.
 
3:08 PM
but you want a free one right @jokerdino - this might help sitepoint.com/5-free-wireframe-applications
 
Oli
@jokerdino Only on UX.SE, once. I've used Pencil (Firefox addon and has a standalone version) a lot more.
We have a question about this.
22
A: What interface mockup programs are available?

OliAs has been suggested in many other similar threads, Pencil offers you a nice framework for prototyping and wireframing (even web stuff). And it's free. I realise you've already said this isn't the answer you're looking for (having been linked to my question on the topic) but my scope is web ...

 
Oh I seem to remember Pencil now.
 
Oli
But I'm not sure how much any of that applies to you and your RPMs...
 
ah, pencil looks cool
 
@Oli Oi. Pencil apparently is in the Fedora archives.
I'll just stick with Pencil then. Merci
 
3:12 PM
GOOD NIGHT (don't read this message before night)
 
Always found this an interesting read: Why Tabs Must Die | OMG! Ubuntu!
 
@Oli I think Canonical (or atleast mpt) uses wireframesketcher.
 
Oli
I wonder what I'm thinking of then.
It's Mark who used Balsamiq
 
@blade19899 urg
 
Oli
@blade19899 The outcome of this appears to be: Let's make it look and work just like Windows 7.
 
3:19 PM
Whoops.
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Oli
@Seth Who have you deleted this time?
 
Somehow, I think this will all be Seth's fault.
 
@Seth star and delete!
hm, no undo button?
 
I flagged Braiam's message as spam on accident, and some silly users approved it.
 
Actually, that flag was autoapproved because you flagged it.
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3:21 PM
Ah, that makes more sense.
 
And Braiam is in the box for 30 minutes.
 
Reload the page Braiam.
 
Not that I complain. We are all happy ;)
 
poor braiam :D
 
I'm not going to let an innocent user have a suspension.
 
3:22 PM
@blade19899 I never seem to use "spaces" in osx...
 
I unsuspended him.
It was all this tablets fault.
 
Yeah, now we just blame the tablet.
 
so why don't we have a whole computer screen for each app?
 
@Seth only if it has windows on it. and even then YOU are using it
 
No, it's Android. Chat isn't good on these devices.
 
Oli
3:25 PM
I wonder if we scraped around we could buy @Seth a real computer rather than have him dodder around on his Tablet of Doom that he's been sin-binning everybody with :)
 
I already have one, I just don't have access to it atm.
 
I am guessing Seth took foss' "sending Braiam to /dev/null" too seriously.
 
Exactly :)
 
Anyway, I was trying to tease @Braiam with "just hope we don't make a meme of it, like the bridge" but my fail made it more complicated lol.
 
So, you are suggesting it was @Braiam's fault after all.. Now I get it
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3:28 PM
Anyway I better go get some breakfast before I ban anyone else.
 
¬_¬
 
@blade19899 hey, that design looks a lot like unity ;) just turn it sideways.
 
@Braiam seth broke your keyboard too it seems?
 
3:42 PM
@Rinzwind just his heart.
 
@terdon errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
 
Seth what the HECK did you do? Now he is showing an error :=D
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@Braiam lol
 

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