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@jokerdino oh, fair enough, I only have accounts for sites where I am either active or really wanted to vote on something. You know, someone was actually wrong!

Seth

The Q I edited on EE.SE was deleted, taking my two rep away with it :(

Oli

@Utkarsh Yeah, you were deleting all your messages after posting them again.

jokerdino

@terdon yeah

Seth

4:09 PM

@terdon I tried to answer more questions on U&L, but almost all the questions in ubuntu had answers already :P

jokerdino

@Seth I know some words in that site.

Braiam

@Seth I have one too with a Q :P

@Seth just answer the CentOS Q's :P

terdon

@Seth really? I'm surprised, many of the GUI ones stay unanswered 'cause we're all cli freaks on U&L. Look through the mint as well.

jokerdino

(don't tell anyone yet. I am on Fedora)

terdon

lol, traitor!

(I'm on LMDE)

Braiam

4:11 PM

@jokerdino someone need to pin that!

fossfreedom

thinking of chat-banning jokerdino

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Seth

We've got Windows 8, Fedora, Debian and Mint users here.

@fossfreedom You can't ban mods ;P

terdon

What? Who's on Windows?

Braiam

@nathan

jokerdino

Oh come on. The Fedora hat goes well with the diamond.

2

Seth

4:11 PM

(well, okay, you can, but it's a secret ;P)

@terdon jrg for now. I forget why.

Braiam

ah, jrg too

terdon

Lol, a mod? Ain't there a law against that?

Seth

No

Utkarsh

@terdon me

jokerdino

@terdon no written law drafted yet.

I won't be surprised if Oli reports in with a RaspPi. :P

googles about RaspPi

Avinash Raj

4:14 PM

@mods, you people accept with my rep.

Seth

Didn't Ubuntu move away from the service command?

Utkarsh

nevermind

jokerdino

Yeah, Ubuntu is moving to systemD

Seth

bleh. I mentioned Debian was moving to systemd to some folks. We all shook our heads after that.

@jokerdino I meant before that.

jokerdino

Somehow I think Mark suddenly got clever (by switching to systemd)

@Seth For now, the service command should work.

Seth

4:16 PM

@jokerdino eh?

As in, mir, unity, systemd?

jokerdino

No comments about Mir. Unity is great.

terdon

To each his own.

Seth

I meant, different, different (everyone yells at him), same.

jokerdino

lol

Oli

@jokerdino There is a Raspi here but I'm not on it. Kubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Server+X+xbmc and Raspbmc (Debian) here and a few Ubuntu servers doing python/webby things.

Braiam

4:17 PM

@Seth IMO /usr/sbin/service is provided by systemv

yup, it's

terdon

@Oli you're just bragging now :)

Oli

@terdon I'm not using them all at once.

That would be bragging.

terdon

@Oli among other things :)

Seth

I once knew a guy who could drive with his knees and play a trumpet.

It was a small trumpet though.

terdon

In that case, there's a pi here, a Debian I'm using and an Ubuntu VM to answer questions.

Oli

4:20 PM

@Seth Curious use of the past tense there.

RIP trumpet playing driver.

terdon

@Oli and yet, not surprising.

Seth

@Oli lol. You don't know everyone forever, at least, I don't. Been a long time since I've seen him.

jokerdino

Death with the trumpet.

Braiam

lol, CfH mail this week was awesome

Oli

I don't know what that is :(

Courses for Horses?

jokerdino

4:22 PM

cubic feet hours

Oli

Cats for Hats?!

Minato Namikaze

Cars for Hire?

Oli

Cucumbers for Haberdasheries?

jokerdino

The suspense is killing.

Minato Namikaze

BBT

Good Night

jokerdino

4:23 PM

@Oli I am going to grab a dictionary to make sure you aren't making those up.

Oli

@jokerdino They're both very real, very silly words :)

Seth

Cumberbatch..

jokerdino

Cucumber is an effective euphemism aye. And Haberdasheries is too English for me to know.

Oli

(Haberdashery is the singular - it's a place people go to buy fabrics, and supplies for sewing, knitting, crafting and the like)

Utkarsh

Call for Help?

CFH

CFH may refer to: *Coach Fred Hoiberg, Iowa State University men's basketball coach * Complement Factor H, a complement control protein *NHS Connecting for Health, The UK Agency delivering the NHS National Programme for IT, usually written "CfH" *Chase Farm Hospital, a hospital in London *Call for Help, an American/Canadian television show based around computing and technology *Cowboys from Hell, a groove metal album by Pantera

jokerdino

4:26 PM

@Oli there ought to be a kinder word for that. Maybe a tailor's shop.

Braiam

TIL: what means Haberdashery

@jokerdino that's two words IMO

jokerdino

je suis un riche garçon.

Oli

@jokerdino It's not as professional as a tailors' shop implies. It's definitely aimed at the home crafter.

jokerdino

It's like me speaking French.

Utkarsh

@jokerdino translation: I was a Rich Person?

jokerdino

4:28 PM

@Utkarsh Were you?

Utkarsh

@jokerdino I was translating the french sentence. We are taught French at School.

jokerdino

@Oli 'wannabe tailor's shop' then.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Meaning and Values of Variables

what is the value and the meaning of the variables : SSH_TTY , SSH_CONNECTION ?? In Unix i tried it but it gives me a blank , i need to know each value of them

jokerdino

someone put a fancy ç in there.

Oli

It's okay, we can blame the French for "haberdasher".

@jokerdino Sorry, couldn't see it without correcting

jokerdino

4:31 PM

yes. those damn rouge pomme

@Oli how would I type that with this english layout?

(I'll apologize generously for my horrible French. Just picked up a hour's course on duolingo earlier today)

Oli

Compose key, comma, c

jokerdino

What fancy keyboard has a compose key?

Oli

@jokerdino It's a combination... AltGR+RightShift on Ubuntu, I think

Handy for all sorts of unicode nonsense

°

Braiam

in my layout is AltGr + comma ç Ç

jokerdino

AltGr. :/

Oli

4:35 PM

help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey

Utkarsh

I have AltGr but still....

terdon

@Braiam you're not using spanish layout? That has it on a separate key

Oli

Yeah it moves around from system to system, keyboard to keyboard. It's customisable too.

Seth

Is there any easier way to tell what my flash drives are mounted as besides fdisk -l?

terdon

@Oli is it ? How? I'm using US layout with dead keys but some are in annoying places?

@Seth lsblk

Braiam

4:36 PM

@terdon no, they keys and layout are english, and I use too much the <> thingy

jokerdino

¢

Seth

ah right.

/me has to use dd D:

terdon

Actually, not sure it only lists if mounted

Oli

@terdon How do you customise the compose combination? Through the keyboard settings on most desktops. Not sure about TTYs.

Never had need for it in a TTY.

jokerdino

ç

terdon

4:38 PM

@Oli oh that's what you meant. No., I thought there was a simple way (no xmodmap) to switch the dead keys around

jokerdino

I think I got that using English dead key layout

terdon

And yes, lsblk only lists mounted devices

jokerdino

je suis un riche garçon not.

Avinash Raj

sudo blkid

Braiam

@Seth dmesg | tail?

jokerdino

4:39 PM

goes back to French classes.

terdon

@jokerdino je ne suis pas un garçon riche :)

but close!

Seth

dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M look right? I can't afford to mess this one up.

Avinash Raj

what's the lang is this?

@terdon

oh French

Seth

French.

terdon

@Seth depends, what you want to do

Seth

4:40 PM

@terdon Copy sdc1 to sdb1.

terdon

phew :)

Braiam

@Seth with partition tables?

Seth

@Braiam yes

jokerdino

@terdon Thank you. I hope to get better at this in some capacity.

I wonder if it is possible to read French without able to pronounce it correctly at all.

Seth

Well I'm running it then. (probably overly paranoid about this.. still)

jokerdino

4:42 PM

I intend to read Albert Camus' Rebel. That's why.

Seth

Hmm, do I need sudo? It gave me a permission denied

yeah, dd needs sudo.

right.

crosses finger.

@jokerdino yes it is! I'm pretty good at that :)

Seth

4:44 PM

O...kay..

terdon

@Seth good luck. How can you screw it up anyway? Presumably your sdb1 is empty right?

Utkarsh

@jokerdino

Dec 17 '13 at 14:26, by fossfreedom

@Utkarsh - keep to english please.

Avinash Raj

you failed to hide your Username.

Seth

@AvinashRaj yeah I know.

@terdon Yep.

Braiam

@AvinashRaj is not that bad... he doesn't have ssh port to the interwebs anyways

jokerdino

4:46 PM

@terdon though you can say I do the same with English mostly.

terdon

@AvinashRaj Seth forgot to delete "Seth" ? Not much of a security breach there. OMG, his real name is actually Seth!

@jokerdino yeah, but it pisses the French of more ;)

Seth

I should think up a creative hostname for my pc..

Avinash Raj

hacker around.

Braiam

@Seth don't ask @JourneymanGeek...

terdon

What's your native language @jokerdino?

Utkarsh

4:47 PM

tamil

jokerdino

@Utkarsh que?

Avinash Raj

Tamil

@terdon

jokerdino

^^^

they know too much about me.

Avinash Raj

Me and dino are from the same state.

@terdon

terdon

Cool

Seth

4:47 PM

@AvinashRaj Try not to ping people on a single line alone, add it to a meaningful message if you can :)

terdon

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Utkarsh

@AvinashRaj You might be living in the Same city. Right?

jokerdino

+1

Avinash Raj

@Utkarsh no

Braiam

anyone has any idea why unable to create /boot/abi-3.5.0-47-generic.dpkg-new' (while processing ./boot/abi-3.5.0-47-generic'): Read-only file system appears when the user doesn't have any read only filesystem?

Avinash Raj

4:48 PM

He's on the top but i'm in bottom.

Utkarsh

@AvinashRaj You know, where is BOSS Linux office?

@Utkarsh no

@Seth MLP@lalaland

hah

@jokerdino what happened to vasa1's account?

Braiam

4:50 PM

mine has a distinctive host name... @bt

Avinash Raj

bt Backtrack

terdon

I used to work with a Tunisian who'd named his machine "cumin". I'm Greek, so I named mine "oregano". :)

Seth

LOL.

So that's why.

terdon

:)

Seth

I like herbs..

terdon

4:51 PM

Signature herb of Greek cooking.

@Seth What's a common one in your part of the world?

jokerdino

@Utkarsh IDK?

Seth

@terdon Lets see...

I've used just about all the major ones.

I live in a diverse place so I'm not sure one is more "common" than the other.

My favorites are basil, oregano and maybe rosemary though.

Oli

@Braiam So what did CfH mail stand for?

jokerdino

call for help.

terdon

@Seth What? Are you in the Mediterranean?

@Oli Can't find host?

Oli

4:53 PM

I was really hoping it would be some sort of mail-order hat-mounted-feline. I am disappoint.

Seth

@terdon nope :)

Utkarsh

I think Call for Help

terdon

@Seth I know, I've seen your profile but those are all from 'round here :)

Seth

@terdon Not sure where I come from has one so to speak. At least, not one that I can think of at the moment.

Oli

Really good hungarian smoked paprika is hard to beat but the world would be a dull place without coriander and cumin.

terdon

4:55 PM

Come, on @Seth, the suspense is killing me, where are you from?

@Oli ooooh, sounds nice. Smoked paprika, hmmmmmmmmmmm

Avinash Raj

@terdon mod election page will help you.

Seth

@terdon Mmm, that's a secret ;P

I'm from GMT-8 though.

more towards the north ;P

terdon

@Seth That I know, but it only gives me latitude (or is it longitude, I never remember). Never mind, keep your secrets :)

Utkarsh

North America?

jokerdino

@terdon it's the longitude.

Utkarsh

4:58 PM

I'm too from North

terdon

@jokerdino thanks

Seth

@terdon If you want to haunt the transcript you might be able to find where I've given out more bits and pieces (or you could look at other clues, i.e. my gravatar)

jokerdino

He has mentioned where he lived at least once in this chat before.

Seth

/me goes to delete places where I've been indiscrete (jk)

terdon

> The following countries use GMT+8 as their Time Zone. NB No Summer Time / Daylight Saving Time is used.

> Brunei Darussalam, China (includes Hong Kong), Indonesia (Bali, Nusa Tenggara, South & East Kalimantan, Sulawesi only), Malaysia, Mongolia, Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, Western Australia

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