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Zanna

3:00 PM

he did --> askubuntu.com/questions/881255/…

Rinzwind

using IPV6?

Android Dev

This --^

@Rinzwind No

Rinzwind

tsk

NEXT TIME START WITH THAT >:-D

Now it is 17:00 so time for me mv /home/

Android Dev

@Rinzwind You mean mv pwd ~/ right? :D

@NathanOsman - Hi! Any ideas? askubuntu.com/questions/881255/…

Nathan Osman

That's a strange one.

Are you mounting any network drives?

Android Dev

3:05 PM

No. And the weird thing is that my laptop without an SSD and my desktop with an SSD BOTH hang on the GRUB purple screen for a while before the animation shows

Nathan Osman

If the kernel is reporting a three second boot, then either something with Grub or something very very early in the kernel is going wrong.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman In "Update 2" I state why I am 99% sure it's a GRUB issue

Nathan Osman

Out of curiosity, what happens when you boot in single user mode?

Android Dev

I've never done that before. How do I do that?

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev most likely. Or some really weird deadlock with the CPU when the kernel is initializing.

@AndroidDev you'll have to edit the boot line in Grub. When the selected entry is highlighted, press "e" and add "single" to the end of the kernel line.

access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/…

Android Dev

3:09 PM

@NathanOsman Okay, I'll report back in about 1 minute :)

Nathan Osman

I know those instructions are for Redhat, but it should be the same for Ubuntu.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman I'm back :)

From the time I hit F10 in GRUB to the time the prompt showed up it was 13 seconds

Nathan Osman

Hmmm... 13 seconds was about the time from when you press enter to the login prompt, right (in multi-user mode)?

cl-netbox

@AndroidDev Do you have LXD installed ?

Nathan Osman

@cl-netbox that shouldn't affect grub though...

Xen, on the other hand...

cl-netbox

3:16 PM

@NathanOsman With LXD installed and in use my machine needed about double the time to boot than without.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman No multiuser mode was 20 seconds...

Nathan Osman

@cl-netbox but this is happening very early in the boot process.

Possibly even before the Grub handoff.

@AndroidDev that's strange... so then the kernel is partly responsible for the delay?

Android Dev

@NathanOsman One thing, the 13 seconds I just gave you was with the Xorg driver, let me switch back to the Nvidia one to keep the times consistent

Nathan Osman

Ah.

Android Dev

Yeah, so I compiled a special version of FFMPEG yesterday with NVEC support, but then when I rebooted I got a login loop! So I switched to the Xorg driver and haven't reloaded the Nvidia one. Additional drivers just loaded it, so let me reboot again and I'll report back :)

Nathan Osman

3:20 PM

I threw a bounty on the question to help.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Thanks! So with the Nvidia driver it's still 13 seconds in single-user mode

Nathan Osman

So I think it's safe to rule out the video driver then.

At least for now.

I have to head to work now. I hope someone with intricate knowledge of Grub sees your question :)

I'll check in later.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman - Just to be clear, the multiuser mode takes 17 seconds to get to the login screen, and then another 3 seconds after I enter my password, so it's a total of 20 seconds

I guess I need to edit that into my question

To make it clearer

user136984

@terdon The who, how or what is not important to me here. Only if it is normal for clouds to form like this.

terdon

Yes.

No science needed, just spend a couple of hours staring at the sky.

user136984

3:33 PM

Ok, then I will probably dismiss the conspiracy theory. Thank you, that's all I wanted to hear.

user136984

:)

terdon

Or 10 minutes, actually, clouds form and dissolve pretty quickly.

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Q: What is the apt equivalent to these dselect commands?

I'm reading a tutorial on backing up packages from one Ubuntu/Debian server and restoring to another (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/ubuntu-and-debian-package-management-essentials#transferring-package-lists-between-systems) that uses dselect as part of the process. However, w...

user136984

@terdon: Apparently though places do make cloud cover increase... So even if there is nothing sinister going on, they do cause it, and it's not very nice.

user136984

Well, that's what the answer on Skeptics says anyway. Apparently contrails do form into a lot of clouds of a certain type, although they do mostly disappear quickly too.

terdon

3:52 PM

Yeah, they'll release particles that can serve as nuclei for vapor condensation, presumably. I haven't seen the answer.

But that's how clouds are formed.

So spake my high school science teacher, anyway, I'm a biologist, what do I know about clouds?

Yes, spake, I'll go with spake.

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Takkat

spike spake speechen

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Zanna

Thus Spake Zarathustra

iirc

William

anyone around?

Zanna

I haven't seen Anyone but there are some strange folk in here

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William

@AndroidDev What SSD do you have and does sata 3 support that?

user136984

4:05 PM

@Zanna: Baaaa

Zanna

a sheep?

user136984

Yes

user136984

How did you guess?

William

@Zanna I will ping you once and only once but isn't unity basically like macOS(I know they are changing it). AppExpose is double click dock icon and launchpad equals the windows key application on ubuntu

user136984

:P

Zanna

4:07 PM

@William I don't use Unity... but I don't mind if you ping me :)

William

I liked Unity :(

Zanna

it's not dead!

William

Eventually support will end though

user136984