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6:00 PM
@Zanna 5 AM your time ;)
 
@cl-netbox, @Serg thanks guys, great!
 
@Seth yes quite >_< but it was very quiet...
argh I feel like I am not looking after the site properly if I don't check them all
 
@JacobVlijm If you find it useful, you can add a +1 (I mean the LXD post) ... :)
 
sits on my hands
 
@Zanna looking after the site begins with handling every new question that comes in. The old ones will take care of themselves :)
 
6:03 PM
@cl-netbox haha, what makes you think I didn't
 
@JacobVlijm you once told me that you don't see my answers because their realted questions mostly are not tagged command-line ... :)
 
@Seth yes, you are right and I agree with you that we should prioritise the new ones, and thank you for reminding me. But I feel like the old ones will not take care of themselves very well :S
 
@cl-netbox I did??
 
@JacobVlijm yes, you did ...
 
anyway I realise now I started with the newest ones, and I left the closed ones alone (with the exception of a couple of dupes that had offensively bad grammar etc and some that deserved to die), and all the ones that are left are so ancient there is no point editing them I guess, so I am done and I can rest in peace
 
6:06 PM
Must be a long time ago! I don't remember...
 
@Zanna it's something you come to peace with eventually. After a few years of 200 questions a day falling on you you stop caring about the answered ones at the bottom of the pile ;)
 
@Seth @Zanna Hope there's still the point of answering questions "on-topic" ...
 
everyone starts out worried about them though, and I completely understand. In a perfect world we'd make them all perfect :)
(I was the same way for a long time)
I guess you get old and jaded >.>
to be clear I have no problem with anyone cleaning up old questions, as long as they let the front page live too. So 5 at a time every hour or something is acceptable. Good job cleaning up other things in the question too. Sometimes people just blindly do tag removals and leave all sorts of other garbage inside the question..
 
@Seth I'm sure you are right about that... but I think the starfish attitude is not a bad thing :)
thanks! I was trying to take the opportunity to clean them up, not just kill the tag
 
@JacobVlijm I remember this very well, because I told you that I often upvoted yours and @Serg 's answers even though I'm not able to understand them completely sometimes, just because I admire your capabilities to provide such solutions ... then you answered me what I said before ... :)
 
6:12 PM
it's like when I see a dupe or dupe target that looks a mess, I know those are going to be around forever unless someone actually deletes them, so I always edit before voting to close now if it's needed. Especially the target should be polished if possible
 
@cl-netbox I believe you, but I think there was little chance we could have missed this one ;)
@Zanna I too remember the time when I was worried about the database, populated with crap. It is simply that you have a better character than I, that you spent so much time trying to change it :)
 
@JacobVlijm Really ? Then it should not have about 10 but rather about 100 upvotes - right ? Anyway, thanks that you have been one of them to upvote it ! :)
 
@JacobVlijm bah, maybe we can call an obsessive-compulsive personality a better character, but I think not so much :)
 
@cl-netbox I totally stopped expecting a rational relation between votes and absolute quality. As long as there is some confirmation of being usefull, I am completely happy with it.
 
TIL you can't use process substitution in posix mode
xieerqi@eagle:~$ cat < <(stat /etc/passwd)
  File: '/etc/passwd'
  Size: 2654      	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 801h/2049d	Inode: 6049359     Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2017-02-03 03:35:46.594634231 -0700
Modify: 2017-02-03 03:35:46.594634231 -0700
Change: 2017-02-03 03:35:46.606634080 -0700
 Birth: -
xieerqi@eagle:~$ bash --posix
bash-4.3$ cat < <(stat /etc/passwd)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
 
6:20 PM
@Zanna your turn to be too modest!
 
@Serg Yeah, that's a bash (and other modern shells) thing. Not POSIX.
 
@terdon yup, also known as bashism.
@terdon VTC this as duplicate: unix.stackexchange.com/q/342699/85039
 
$ checkshell 'cat < <(echo foo)'
bash	:   foo
csh	:   Missing name for redirect.
dash	:   dash: 1: Syntax error: redirection unexpected
fish	:   Expected a string, but instead found a redirection
fish: cat < <(echo foo)
            ^
ksh	:   foo
mksh	:   mksh: syntax error: '< ' unexpected
sh	:   sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
sh: -c: line 0: `cat < <(echo foo)'
tcsh	:   Missing name for redirect.
zsh	:   foo
bash, zsh and ksh seem to support it.
@Serg The OP is linking to one of the answers from that in their question. I doubt it's a dupe. And I'm not entirely sure I understand what they're trying to do either.
Oh, in case anyone was wondering:
$ type checkshell
checkshell is a function
checkshell ()
{
    grep --color -Po '^[^#].*/\K.+' /etc/shells | sort -u | while read s; do
        echo -en "${s##*/}\t:   ";
        $s -c "$@";
    done
}
 
@Serg think we can try that test today? If you're not busy there
 
@terdon they're apparently trying to send string OK to two different commands. Gilles's answer and the accepted one's pretty much give multiple ways to do so. Simplest would be with proc-substitution, which begs the question why they're not usingbash in the first place
 
6:31 PM
@Serg They might not have it installed on their system. This is U&L, remember? In any case, the OP is linking to Gilles's answer and claiming it didn't work for them so I don't see how it can be a dupe.
 
@IanC Maybe later in the day. I'm working till UTC 22:00 , but will need time to set things up
 
woo systemd is awesome <3
 
@Serg cool! I think I'll still be online by then, only have to work at dawn today
 
yesterday, by terdon
@KazWolfe You have no idea how close you are to a suspension right now. . .
 
@terdon Fair enough about Gilles's answer . . . I'll leave a few more comments, just to figure out what they tried
@KazWolfe staph , just staph
 
6:33 PM
@terdon okay, i don't remember upstart doing user services.
 
@KazWolfe You do know I'm joking, of course, right?
I don't even have a strong opinion on systemd. All I care about is that they pick one and stick with it so I know what to learn.
 
@terdon I do.
 
Phew.
 
though it's not as obvious with you as it is someone like @ThomasWard.
 
@terdon Cool thing, you should package that!
 
6:35 PM
@ByteCommander Meh, it's a couple of lines of code.
@KazWolfe Hmm. I should work on that then. Thanks.
 
@terdon please don't suspend me
 
@terdon (though to be fair, we don't really take @ThomasWard seriously :D)
 
@edwinksl I'll think about it.
JOKE!
(just in case)
 
I feel like I am short on shells...
$ checkshell 'cat < <( echo foo )'
bash	:   foo
dash	:   dash: 1: Syntax error: redirection unexpected
ksh93	:   foo
rbash	:   foo
rksh93	:   foo
sh	:   sh: 1: Syntax error: redirection unexpected
 
hi, @ThomasWard! We all like you here. <3
 
6:38 PM
@ByteCommander What's rbash?
 
@terdon restricted bash
 
@KazWolfe I notice you ping him to dis him but not for the compliments. Hmmm. . .
 
bash --restricted
 
@terdon He's gonna see it anways.
@terdon If bash is started with the name rbash, or the -r option is supplied at invocation, the shell becomes restricted. A restricted shell is used to set up an environment more controlled than the standard shell.
 
@Serg Oh. Thanks
 
6:39 PM
RBASH(1)                                             General Commands Manual                                            RBASH(1)

NAME
       rbash - restricted bash, see bash(1)

RESTRICTED SHELL
       If  bash  is  started  with  the name rbash, or the -r option is supplied at invocation, the shell becomes restricted.  A
       restricted shell is used to set up an environment more controlled than the standard shell.   It  behaves  identically  to
       bash with the exception that the following are disallowed or not performed:
 
@terdon we had a question about it recently!
 
^-- that
 
OK, missed it. Thanks for the info.
 
I was exclaiming excitedly as I remembered the nice question
I don't actually expect you to read every single post on the site
it wasn't an exasperated or horrified "!" ;)
 
@Zanna And now we expect you to :D
 
6:42 PM
I only remember the ones I answered or asked in general >_<
 
Does anyone know some good resources about Stuxnet? I'll have to hold a short presentation about that next week... (cc @KazWolfe @Rinzwind @ThomasWard and every other security aware guy)
 
or person of other gender, should there be any...
 
@Zanna "guy" is gender neutral
at least in any context I've heard of late
 
@Zacharee1 Why should I want to visit my house in VR if I am there in RR every day anyway?
 
@ByteCommander What specifically are you looking at/for?
 
6:45 PM
@ByteCommander SCIENCE
 
Anything about stuxnet is pretty broad tbh.
 
SkyNet is much more interesting
 
@KazWolfe It's only a short talk (5-10 min), so I'd like to focus less on the very technical details but more on the history of how it was detected and mitigated etc. Of course I'll also talk about what it does and how, but only briefly, I think.
However, my curiosity appreciates almost any kind of info about it ;)
 
Source code: github.com/micrictor/stuxnet (DO NOT COMPILE AND RUN, POINTLESS DISCLAIMER BECAUSE REASONS), or at least partially-decompiled version
 
@SmokeDetector who's still looking to watch that?
 
6:49 PM
6
Q: How could malware like Stuxnet be detected?

pnpStuxnet and others in this list of state-of-the-art Internet worms had certain features that they were very stealthy in leaking out the information they harvested. Thus it managed to go under the radar and would typically go unnoticed by IDS/Firewalls. Stuxnet also had a feature that the infected...

 
Oh, "decompiled".
What? I've read somewhere that there are no sources publicly available...
 
@ByteCommander probably no official sources
 
Thanks, will read through those.
 
No public full sources.
Malware like Stuxnet is really good at hiding, but it's nowhere near perfect. There are still some ways to see/detect it.
 
LUNIX, I like that, or LUNATIX askubuntu.com/q/880172/72216
 
6:51 PM
Stuff like network loggers (Wireshark, tcpdump, etc), process debuggers watching for weird syscalls, etc.
 
...Linux gone mad: LINATUX
 
@cl-netbox well I work when ever there is a problem at the data base. I need to be on call pretty much 24/7. Someone forgot to plug in the main server! facepalm
 
@ByteCommander there's at least fifty thousand thousand resources on the net
 
Slightly more than that.
 
@terdon i'm unique lol
 
6:54 PM
@ThomasWard that's a low estimate
 
@ThomasWard Exactly. Therefore I asked whether any of you might possibly know a good one.
 
So, you are still right.
 
@ByteCommander Also see CVE-2010-2772, CVE-2010-2568, and CVE-2015-0096.
 
@jokerdino maybe a couple
 
@JacobVlijm lol NASA
CVE-2010-2772 was the big one by Stuxnet though.
 
6:55 PM
:) how can we not love this site..
 
Goodbye :)
 
You're off?
 
Here's one of the removal tools (cc @ByteCommander): symantec.com/security_response/…
 
Thanks again...
 
@JacobVlijm Yes ... sudo poweroff ! :D
 
6:57 PM
CU!
 
@JacobVlijm see you ! :) Bye :)
 
and of course, @ByteCommander, the wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
 
@JacobVlijm You know that means a$$ in Portuguese?
 
No?
Ouch...
You know SKODA means "unfortunately" in tsjech?
 
I didn't know that either, until a Brazilian told me... :P
And no.
 
7:08 PM
French as well
 
@terdon have a minute to review answer before i post it ?
 
HeLlO
 
@ByteCommander If you look through all the CVEs and linked documentation, you'll get a huge amount of info about almost everything about Stuxnet.
 
Yeah, way too much already.
And I come to realize that I confused Stuxnet with Conficker...
Anyway, both are interesting enough, so probably I'll just stay with Stuxnet now.
 
@Serg If it's small, sure.
 
7:21 PM
@terdon small and short script, want to post on that same question about multiple commands receiving stdout. Canonical one, not the new question
im outside though, give me a minute
 
@Serg Might not be here when you get back. If not, I'll check it out as soon as I get the chance.
 
@terdon ok I'll post and delete. You can view deleted entries
 
7:36 PM
i swear to god.... customers are crazy.
 
this isn't new news
 
ughhh
steam crashes whenever I get a message and the "system error detected" popup comes up
(Its probably my fault for combining kde and unity stuff together)
 
7:55 PM
not really a dupe I think
But if you wanted to dupe it, why did you answer it hahaha
 
...I just accidentally removed unity instead of kde
 
sudo apt install unity?
 
Did that already, it's just that stuff's still freaky
 
reboot?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix will do after taking a backup
 
8:00 PM
what's a backup?
haha just kidding.
 
ugh
 
Well I'm not going to duplicate it on my system to confirm your results :p
 
@Serg what is cat /dev/stdin > temp doing?
Why are you using eval?
 
too bad the code wasn't posted here so we could all critique @Serg :p
 
Ah, no, I see what the cat is doing, OK.
 
8:14 PM
I can do that @WinEunuuchs2Unix , but it's a very exclusive and super secret script which only 10k+ users can see :p
 
OK, no @Serg, that seems fine to me. I fixed a typo (you were using temp instead of $temp) but apart from that, it looks good to me.
 
@terdon using eval to run command given as argument to script, so that it also can expand variables . . .Well if it looks "goof" I'll undel it then :D
@terdon I think you just started a new meme . . . "It looks goof to me"
 
@Serg Dunno what you mean. looks around innocently
 
@Zacharee1 can we make a poster like that ? " It looks goof to me" Plz,plz,plz
 
wat
 
8:17 PM
@Serg LMAO... good one serg.
 
@terdon By the way, why 3 quotes in `eval "$arg <" $temp" ?
 
@Serg because stupid?
Sorry, fixed now.
 
@terdon Thank you ! :D
 
sooo... is someone going to undelete the answer (hint hint) so we can all see what you two have been discussing?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I already did : unix.stackexchange.com/a/342717/85039
 
8:24 PM
@Serg nice... have a stackexchange cookie :D
^^^ that means +1 on U&L.
 
ok, nothing broke, steam got fixed
nice
 
damn, just wrote a function to extract tokens of a string, it was a PITA, and I still gotta review through the whole function to check for bugs
 
@IanC isnt there strtok already ?
 
@Serg there is, but I had to deal with some more complex cases, like quoting
for example: ls -a 'my file' would be turned to ls, -a, 'my and file' with strtok
I needed my file to be a single token there, so I had to write it from scratch
 
8:49 PM
One would think this has been implemented somewhere already
 
$ strace ls -a 'my file' |& grep execve
execve("/sbin/ls", ["ls", "-a", "my file"], [/* 44 vars */]) = 0
?
 
@Serg I don't think so, at least not in the libc, maybe some third part library?
@terdon I'd have to call that command from C, get the output and work the string to get the list of tokens. Think it would be simpler to just work the command string and get set some rules with quoting
 
Fair enough
 
Well, sh*t . . . 2 PM already and nothing done
 
@terdon though I lose the shell expansions :/
if I write ls -a * I'd be reading "*" as a token, and not expanding it
 
9:05 PM
@Serg 21:05 here, and nothing done XD
Hi @IanC hope all's well with you apart from coding frustrations
 
@IanC Well, you chose to write in C. On your head be it :)
 
Heey @Zanna, it's all good! What about yourself? :)
@terdon yeah, guess I'm a bit masochist when it comes to programming haha
 
pretty good here :) I actually did almost everything on my TODO for the day, must not have been ambitious enough XD
 
Can a moderator trigger a chat for this answer: askubuntu.com/a/879932/29012 . So far there has been about 50 comments in it.
 
@Zanna nice! I don't think my day was very productive, just laid down in bed and watched some series most of the day :p
 
9:26 PM
Best way to prevent misspelling Ubuntu: askubuntu.com/q/880209/367990
 
Thanks for anyone who considered helping triggering a chat for the comments. The answer is resolved now.
 
That guy simply always only wrote "U".
 
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. — terdon ♦ 48 secs ago
 
@IanC sweet :)
 
@terdon... thinks. The answer is resolved.
Kind of hard using comments over chat... but we have a happy camper in the user.
 
9:45 PM
I've had lengthy comments back and forth too, but @L.D.James takes the cake :p
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Is "the cake" a good thing? I appreciate the help that I have received over the years, I enjoy giving back. I also know what it is for a novice to be stuck with missing links. I don't mind assisting in filling in the gaps. I make a mistake with some of the instructions sometimes. But in this case, all the needed steps were in the answer. The user was doing lots of different things rather than the steps in the answer.
...so it took some extra dialog to get him to actually perform the proven steps.
I understand the idea of branching out from a provided template that works and modifying it before actually testing it... I do the same myself sometime and wonder why the formula doesn't work.
 
@L.D.James um... "the cake" is like a badge but you don't get a badge for it... it's just a figure of speech. What I usually do in such instances is make an agreement with the co-commenter to delete most of our comments such that subsequent readers won't be bogged down from work in progress comments and get to the heart of the matter.
@Zanna can back me up on that because we've done that before, albeit a few months back.
 
I used to do everything possible to avoid making work for mods, but now I just flag as many things as possible XD (ie obsolete comments) (no I'm joking, it's not nice to make work for mods)
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yepyepyep
 
There is a trigger that usually comes after a couple of comments. On some occasions it doesn't happen. But I understand the gist that the comments can be a distraction. I'll try to be quicker to ask for assistance to get the discussion out of the comments and into a chat.
 
The draw back is when the other commenter is in a different time zone, then you pretty much have to do it in comments with one day delay between posts.
Another issue is when the answer takes four months to fine tune as happened to me when OP only signed on every couple of weeks: askubuntu.com/questions/837078/…
 
10:02 PM
I understand what you're saying. I kind of handle the chats in a similar manner. I usually tell the user to only post when it's convenient. In the case of this current answer. The user having problems performing two commands in a row. I was trying to say look at the previous command, and retyping the same command a number of times. It totally wasn't the type of dialog that is meant for comments...
... It, as the trigger that Terdon provided, for actual discussion, like what you and I are having now.
I did help a user in chat that would spend a few minutes a day over the course of a couple of weeks to resolve an issue. I understand that some people have a different approach to using computers than me. While I work on computers as a job, I also do it because I like doing it. Some people don't necessarily enjoy working with issues. They only want a resolution.... and a very frustrated and aggravated when having an issue.
Some might be on a very short break from work, or a very short break from family matters. So, for them, I have the patience to give a few steps in a chat... they response hours or days later with the results I don't mind saying the same thing multiple times. It looks bad in comments, but some repetition until it's understand is more appropriate in a discussion... a chat.
It's great that SE has provided this. I'm kind of stuck when a new user can't join a chat room for a discussion. So I kind of just make do with hopes that the mechanism we have in place to move the comments to the proper place would kick in... other than that, I just try to do what I can to help to ease a user's frustration, out of compassion..
 
I'm voting to close this chatroom and move it to meta :p
I was just kidding ^^^ I totally understand your view point and have no problems with anything you've said.
It would make a good meta discussion though.
 
10:18 PM
Thanks!
 
I think most of us here love working with computers and enjoying helping others whether they are employed in the computer field (like most of them) or not employed in the field (like me (although I used to be 20 years ago)).
 
10:42 PM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Really? :-P
You make us sound like really nice people :-P
I disagree however with asking here first then posting when convenient...I think you should always post on the main page, then you can discuss here...you never know when someone else might run into the same issue as you and your question might help them along...
 
I agree and realize that. I can tell by the assistance I get and have always gotten when I had an issue.
@TheXed I agree with you that the chat should be an extension of the questions/answers so that the question/answers can continue to be the great database of resources it is. I'm sure WinEnuuchs2Unix, as well as you and I are on the page in this regard.
 
@TheXed really to what? most people here are employed in computer field... ie a joke or I'm not employed in computer field???
 
so beautiful
wait
wai u no crop
 
Wrong time it's 3:48 :p
 
I took that 3 hours ago
 
10:49 PM
No I was joking about most of us liking to work with computers and helping others...
 
oh ok... haha funny :p
 
but I was trying to point out my AOSP signal bars
no more yucky Stock separate bars
 
It's a nice 95% power bar @Zacharee1 did you write it?
 
no, it's 3Minit
 
I might unplug my laptop just to see the display!
 
10:50 PM
wut
 
I want an indicator that tells me my desktop is plugged into the outlet...
You know, just incase it comes unplugged...
 
@TheXed that's called Turning off Without Warning
 
The indicator is when the machine turns off you know it was unplugged!
 
handy tool
 
Actually there is a warning when it hits 5% or something.
 
10:51 PM
What is it is plugged into a UIPS?
 
I have a UPS but that has nothing to do with laptop battery.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I am talking about my desktop, not a laptop...
 
Beside I use the UPS for my exhaust fan in my apartment window.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you fart that much you have to exhaust air out?
and it is on a UPS?
 
Well desktop doesn't need a battery indicator because it doesn't have a battery.
 
10:53 PM
I didn't say a battery indicator... we could call it a power indicator...
 
exhuast fan is for cigarette smoke. If power goes out for 10 seconds (as it happens from time to time) when fan resets it switches to cooling mode. When it is minus 20 outside pipes can freeze and I get stuck with 10 grand bill for water damage.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix oh yeah, you don't want that....that would suck....but that give me an idea for my 10 year olds bedroom...
 
Are you saying your daughter/son stinks? LOL
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix exactly...
Interesting DIRT Rally is coming to Linux next month...
And wouldn't you know, that is the one DIRT game I don't have...
 
^^^ UPS power indicator
 
10:57 PM
Looks like it is time for a new battery almost?
 
It works out of the box and I didn't have to install drivers like I had to in windows
 
I have some batteries I need to replace at work...
 
I can't put a new battery in UPS
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix oh...not replaceable...that sucks...
 
Anyway 41 minutes to empty is right and it was the same when new I think.
 
10:58 PM
So how do you know if the power goes out when you are not home?
 
I could wake up my laptop and email myself or text myself but then I'd have to plug router into UPS as well which I only do in the summer time as it's on other side of room with TV that should have UPS too when Android OS smart tv updates are running for 30 minutes... it's complicated :)
Anyway I have faith power will only go out for a few seconds... If I'm at work and it's out for 8 hours I'm screwed with my current disaster avoidance plan.
 
@TheXed why not just buy some Ubiquity stuff? If the controller goes offline, you know your power if out :p
 
Then I open my cheque book and write something for 10 K :(
 
@TheXed clocks that are plugged in will tell you
thinks like vhs and microwaves all have clocks on them
 
who owns VCRs anymore?
 
11:07 PM
@Ubiquity is awful....@Serg by then it is to late...@WinEunuuchs2Unix I uptimerobot send me text when it can't reach my server, indicating either the power it out, or the internet is down...
 
Ubiquiti is amazing
 
@Zacharee1 their customer support is non-existent...
 
their software is amazing
what's the need if it never fails?
and they have online chat in the web interface
 
But it does fail...everything fails...
 
doing better than Linksys so far
 
11:09 PM
If I am going to invest 30-50K on networking equipment I expect to be able to pick up the phone and have hardware shipped to me the next day if something goes wrong.
 
30-50k????
 
@Zacharee1 yes...
 
o_O
what are you doing?
 
rewiring my house...
is that not a reasonable price?
 
and you spent that much?
that's a lot of monies
 
11:10 PM
lol no, I am joking...
 
whew
could've given that money to me
 
You can send data over existing household 110volt wiring anyway... no need to rewire.
 
o_O
 
I installed wireless internet and revamped the existing network in 4 buildings that pretty that pretty much had nothing and was running on 10Mbps network...
 
It's only like 2 Mbps though... you get more out of telephone twisted pair existing wiring in houses, that's like 150Mbps.
 
11:12 PM
Now we are up to 10Gbps...
 
whoa
 
My USB only does 5 Gbps
 
oh darn
 
What everyone else here has 3.1 (10 Gbps) or Thunderbolt (40 Gps) :(
 
My Mobo supports 3.1 but my case only supports 3, but I do have a USB C on my Mobo...
 
11:20 PM
In a year or two I'll get a new used laptop with Win 10, 4k, 32 GB RAM, and USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt. In the mean time my current rig keeps me happy.
 
my wifi is 1gb/sec
;)
 
Oh I guess USB 3.1 is type c...
 
My WiFi is only B/G/N no AC :(
And my ethernet is only 100 Mbps sigh
That said my ISP cheapo data plan is 15 Mbps so who cares?
Watching the Super Bowl just now and realize America doesn't have a national athem.
They are singing "America the great" or something like that.
Others sing "Star bankled banner" or something like that.
oops now someone else is singing and it's called the "national anthem" false alarm :)
No black lives matter protesters in the National Football League sitting down on this one.
 
"bankled"?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes we do have a National Anthem...Americans are just to stupid to realize it.
 
11:27 PM
"spangled" just heard the song again.
What is a "spangled" anyway?
 
@TheXed well, I don't have much of an idea, other than have a backup battery / generator
 
"The Star-Spangled Banner" is the national anthem of the United States of America. The lyrics come from "Defence of Fort M'Henry",[2] a poem written on September 14, 1814, by the 35-year-old lawyer and amateur poet Francis Scott Key after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in Baltimore Harbor during the Battle of Baltimore in the War of 1812.
 
cover with spangles or other small sparkling objects.
 
^^^ Oh great war of 1812 the war with CANADA!
Oh well at least most Americans don't know Canada burned down Whitehouse... it's all good.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you just let the cat out of the bag...
 
11:30 PM
no one comes here anyway :p
They all think Canadians live in igloos and are harmless so let them wallow in their ignorance is bliss ;)
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you mean that's not true???
 
whistles innocently and kicks snow
brb got to throw more seal blubber to huskies so they have energy to pull dog-sled tomorrow.
 
Hey I have been poked by plenty of Canadians with tooth picks while chanting war chants... @WinEunuuchs2Unix...never mind that it was a video game...
lol my upload speed it ridiculous right now...
 
11:48 PM
I wanna mod more SystemUIs
anyone have an Android with an unlocked bootloader?
 
@Zacharee1 nope, sorry.
 
feh
@TheXed that's a strange ratio
 
@Zacharee1 yeah it really is...
I pay for 60/10...someone at the ISP has screwed up. I hope they never realize it...
 

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