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user139252

3:06 PM

@Videonauth Alright, it looks like they still haven't built in automatic renewal, so you'll want to make a cron job that runs every month or so and have it run /path/to/certbot-auto renew

Videonauth

ah ok shoudnt be a problem then

thank you very much for your input

@Seth askubuntu.com/a/776889/522934

jokerdino

@Videonauth generally you dont touch someone's code

Videonauth

yeah seth told me already

posted my own now

since i spend a while to figure out what was wrong with the guys code :p

jokerdino

lol who did I trigger? 3 downvotes on my questions.

user139252

You angered the Sloth Kingdom.

jokerdino

3:13 PM

that's possible

they even downvoted my CW question..

Videonauth

huh 3 DV where ?

jokerdino

my questions

Videonauth

well not me lol im always gratefull for constructive input

jokerdino

What did I do 10 hours ago? hmm

user139252

This is the first time I've seen the larger version of your avatar, @jokerdino

user139252

3:14 PM

Very clever.

jokerdino

Oh

user139252

You haven't asked a question since 2012?

jokerdino

looks like it

Videonauth

hes to busy answering so he hasnt had time questioning :p

jokerdino

dont check my answer history either

Journeyman Geek

3:17 PM

lol

jokerdino

last answer on nov 2013. oops

Videonauth

that made my day lol

Journeyman Geek

@Videonauth I donno about AU but I post roughy 20 answers to every question I ask on SU

Videonauth

well i have 3 questions asked and 163 answers in 2 months

Journeyman Geek

roughtly the same on AU but I'm not that active here

Videonauth

3:20 PM

not mentioning that my account is only 2 months old right now :)

jokerdino

nice

Videonauth

@TheBrownOne doe this look right so far

* * * */1 * /home/michael/keys/certbot/certbot-auto renew

jokerdino

who is Michael?

Videonauth

thats me

jokerdino

Time to suspend him.

Man, there used to be a terrible Michael.

Videonauth

3:31 PM

thats not me xD

Nathan Osman

Finally, Ubuntu stickers at unixstickers.com \o/

6

Seth

yup! :D

hopefully they get t-shirts next.

Videonauth

been there, done that, got a t-shirt ...

xD

Mateo

3:49 PM

unixstickers.com/ubuntu?pk_campaign=TW-launch yay

Nathan Osman

I think I'll go on a shopping spree later... :)

Anonymous

test test

Anonymous

Okay, unix stickers is just full of traffic. it's not me

Anonymous

I'm kind of bummed that whatever coupon I have does not work for xubuntu merch

RobotHumans

ooh, pretty.

Anonymous

4:01 PM

@HenryWHHack do you still need help?

Nathan Osman

Their coupons tend to expire after a week.

How old is the coupon?

Anonymous

last week?

Anonymous

They said it was for the ubuntu launch though.

Anonymous

So I am sure it is good for a few more days

Anonymous

Has anyone purchased shirts from Unix Stickers? I am super picky with shirts

Seth

4:07 PM

follow them on twitter. They gave me $10 for it.

(that was a while ago, so they might not do that anymore)

@onebree I want to.. but have never quite pulled the trigger on that $$.

I tend to be kinda cheap about clothes :P

(and they only had debian so..)

Anonymous

I don't want to spend $25 on a shirt either, but you can't get similar shirts elsewhere...

Anonymous

I used to buy from threadless but they turned to :poop:

Seth

btw, I highly recommend you all read this answer by Shog9. It does a good job highlighting and explaining some issues we've had around closing on this site.

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RobotHumans

@Seth Doesn't "too broad" also include the "only valid at a specific point in time" blurb that made it a catch all for abandoned questions?

Zacharee1

@RobotHumans that's under Off Topic

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

4:22 PM

0

Q: Tmux shortcut problem

While using Tmux, I tried to maximise the current pane using <prefix> z, and had a bit of a keyboard fail and accidently held down the prefix keys while pressing z, instead of letting go of the prefix combo. The terminal then cleared completely (maximised, clearing all my panes), and while I was ...

RobotHumans

@Zacharee1 ahh. yes.

Seth

4:33 PM

@RobotHumans that was too localized.. Until they nuked it and sorta moved it under off-topic.

Byte Commander

@RobotHumans Just for clarification, you were hbdgaf, right?

Videonauth

@Seth can you have a look at this, why cant i make this image appear with ![ ?? askubuntu.com/questions/776899/…

Seth

@Videonauth the [1]: link part needs to be at the end of the post

and there was already a [1], so it needed to be [2].

Byte Commander

@Videonauth You had the [1] link shortcut twice

Videonauth

doink ... my bad blushes

i actually fight with proftpd and beside looking at questions like this one

Byte Commander

4:48 PM

Btw, I earned my first gold badge on Stack Overflow today! \o/

Videonauth

congratulation :)

RobotHumans

@ByteCommander correct

Byte Commander

Ah! Hi then. :)

New names and new images at the same time lead to confusion...

RobotHumans

I talked about looking for a Kreiger pun for about a day before I did it. - and there are plenty of breadcrumbs

Byte Commander

Kreiger? Who/what is that?

RobotHumans

4:51 PM

This

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Ubuntu won't lock on lid close, lock keystroke, or settings -> lock on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed via croton to a chromebook

I installed ubuntu via this guide http://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343 using the unity option instead of xfce. WHen I close the lid, hit the lock keystroke, or select lock from the gear menu nothing happens. If I open the lid it is just logged...

ubuntu chrome-book

Byte Commander

Never seen or heard of this Archer series though TBH...

Anonymous

Their problem -- using Ubuntu < 15

RobotHumans

@ByteCommander It's too funny if you enjoy a little dark adult humor

Byte Commander

It's probably only popular in the US, I guess?

RobotHumans

4:56 PM

Eh. It's not popular here either. ;)

Byte Commander

:)

Anonymous

So, I mentioned to some of you I am in a summer english course for college... I think I am going to do well. Why? Other students are submitting critique using text speak (tho, liek, etc)

Seth

O_O

Anonymous

And when the reqs for the draft are 3 pages (3-5 for final), someone submitted 2 pages, double spaces (as expected), with an extra \n between paragraphs

Byte Commander

...

Anonymous

5:01 PM

It;s like, I wrote 6 pages of a draft, without an ending even.. And you all know how hard I worked to write that

Byte Commander

Well, time to relax now then.

Anonymous

absolutely

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Double sided DVD's: Is it possible to have a dual-layer (both sided) DVD that is usable for 9.4GB Distro Installs?

I was looking at installs with all my OSS software, and the 4.7GB limit was reached for install of a particular Linux distro. My question is is it possible to have a Double-sided DVD-RAM (i.e. the ones you see for PC game installations), and use bothy sides in the full 9.4GB Linux Distro install...

ubuntu system-installation dvd ubiquity

RobotHumans

@onebree Had something similar when I was in college. "Write a student enrollment application with the following features. Also, include a user interface." Wrote a full on GUI application with an sqlite connector. "Uh, dude. You way overdid that one. Most people do a readline and print cli for that assignment"

Byte Commander

:D

Anonymous

5:09 PM

Yeah, I don't typically consider CLI output a user interface...

Byte Commander

Actually I personally love the CLI...

RobotHumans

exactly

Nathan Osman

Not even if it uses dialog?

Anonymous

I love the CLI myself, but when it comes to someone saying "with a user interface", most clients expect a GUI.

Nathan Osman

Aw man, I forgot to include IRC logs in my backups :(

RobotHumans

5:11 PM

Some things that use ncurses, for example, fully qualify. But zork does not count as a modern application.

Anonymous

ncurses is pretty neat

Videonauth

is there a better gui for handling proftpd as this gadmin-proftpd manager ?

RobotHumans

wouldn't know. haven't used ftp in ages.

Videonauth

im getting crazy yesterday it worked pretty nicely now it doesnt love me anymore

Mateo

ah man, my smoke detector cant tell the difference between smoke and the lovely aroma of cooking pizza...

didn't even get close to burning the crust too

Byte Commander

5:23 PM

I once triggered a smoke detector by sneezing heavily in an adjacent room...

Seth

o_O

what are you, a dragon?

Byte Commander

:D

Dammit, you found out my secret.

jokerdino

mfw Byte is a closet dragon

Byte Commander

wut?

Nathan Osman

@Mateo Mmmm... pizza! :)

Byte Commander

5:26 PM

Well, I'd say I got other stuff to do now. Seeya some other time.

Nathan Osman

This is new? worldbuilding.stackexchange.com

(I'm referring to the theme.)

Seth

yeah

a month or two now though I think

Mateo

home made, blended up grape tomatos, fresh basil and oregano, corn, rolled out the dough by hand, then topped with mozzarella and feta

oh, and a bit of sriracha in the sauce ;)

Nathan Osman

@Seth It says May 17?

Seth

or time just flies.

Nathan Osman

5:28 PM

Lol.

@Mateo Stop making me hungry :D

Now I need to decide which stickers to add to my laptop.

^--- here's what I've got now

Terrance

Cool!! :D

Nathan Osman

I definitely need a Go sticker.

Anonymous

I feel bad defacing my computer... I need to make a collage/poster of my own with stickers I have

Nathan Osman

They have one for Django and Python, so I need to decide between those two.

@onebree A poster would be cool.

Or even convert them into fridge magnets.

Anonymous

We don't stick anything on our fridge... :-/

Anonymous

5:36 PM

I'd love to make them into stickers for my car... But nothing on the outside to be weathered away

Seth

that's mine.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Is it okay to modify Ubuntu Linux 16.04's /etc/fstab after I initialized it?

I modified /etc/fstab after I initialized it on an Ubuntu Linux 16.04 system running on an Lenovo Thinkstation desktop. After it messed up my Ubuntu Linux 16.04 system causing it to go into emergency reboot status endlessly. I would like to know what caused this mishap and how to fix /etc/fstab ...

ubuntu fstab reboot

RobotHumans

@onebree If they make them vinyls and decent adhesive, they don't weather away anywhere near as fast

Terrance

My tower is so dusty on the outside, no stickers will not stick to it at all. :(

Seth

I'm going to get some stickers from the EFF soon, and probably replace the giant ubuntu one with those.

@NathanOsman no hacktoberfest? :P

Mateo

5:39 PM

Nathan Osman

O_o

Mateo

I don't have any more room on mine ;)

Nathan Osman

Wow.

That's very well decorated.

Seth

@Mateo nice

RobotHumans

I wonder if making a stupid simple "tic tac" game, like tic tac toe, but when the board is full, if there is no victor, swapping the oldest two moves repeatedly until there is a victor would spinlock forever or always wind up with a victor.

Nathan Osman

5:41 PM

Clearly I still have a ways to go.

Seth

these are the EFF stickers I mentioned earlier.

Nathan Osman

@RobotHumans The problem space for tic-tac-toe is small enough that you could probably brute-force the answer to that question.

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman That is true. I'm thinking about using that problem to learn pybrain

Nathan Osman

It's what... 2^9?

Seth

@NathanOsman that would make it more interesting though, no?

Nathan Osman

5:42 PM

Probably would.

RobotHumans

In the context of pybrain, then - even though you could brute force the problem - the golf would be in how fast you could get your network to converge.

Nathan Osman

That would be an interesting challenge.

RobotHumans

The goal, then, for the computer, would be to converge as fast as possible and win in the most number of turns.

assuming it doesn't spinlock

jokerdino

All these in the spirit of your new username?

RobotHumans

the username was in the spirit of this.

Mateo

5:53 PM

totally going to get a json sticker :)

user139252

@Videonauth Yup, looks good to me.

Videonauth

changed it around a bit doing * * 23 * * instead

user139252

Has anyone seen the show Powers?

RobotHumans

omg a tv show with eddie izzard as the villain. i must watch it

user139252

That's why I turned it on...

Videonauth

5:56 PM

if i only get this froftpd working again :-s

user139252

but then I saw "Playstation Originals"

user139252

And thought "Wait, what? Playstation makes TV shows?"

user139252

Then I turned it off :P

user139252

I just want to know if it's any good before I try :p

RobotHumans

Eh. The theory is sound, but it could go REALLY poorly.

user139252

5:59 PM

It's based on a Marvel storyline, apparently

Nathan Osman

My cellphone speakers just put my laptop speakers to shame.

Much better quality and nearly just as loud.

Mateo

anyone want 5 off on unixstickers

Nathan Osman

I've got a 20% off coupon.

Mateo

cool

user139252

What's the usual cost at unixstickers?

Nathan Osman

6:01 PM

Of the stickers?

Or do you mean shipping, etc.?

RobotHumans

Nah. I'm a no stickers on my laptop kind of guy. If I build the rpi cluster box, I'll probably collect some stickers for it.

Nathan Osman

This will be my first purchase there, so I'm not really sure.

Also, shipping will be cheaper for you guys than it will be for me... :D

user139252

@NathanOsman Shipping :P

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman Don't complain. You have true universal healthcare, not this abomination we have here...

Mateo

it was like only around $5 shipping

Nathan Osman

6:02 PM

@RobotHumans Huh? I'll trade our healthcare for what you had any day of the week!

Universal healthcare is an utter disaster. Trust me.

I live in it.

Mateo

what we had

RobotHumans

I'ld rather have what we had... but we now have something inferior.

Worst of both worlds.

Nathan Osman

True.

I do feel bad for you.

I used to want to move south but I sure don't anymore.

Especially considering the two frontrunners for president...

user139252

I'll have pretty good health coverage again once I get out of this "probation period" new employees have for 90 days

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman ^^

user139252

6:06 PM

No Raspberry stickers on unixstickers?

Mateo

you can get those elsewhere for not too much

RobotHumans

Yes, the excitement on Ubuntu stickers was that they avoided a huge tax and shipping cost.

user139252

.... This show just suggested you could get superpowers by... uh...

Seth

@NathanOsman Unix stickers is in Italy.. so I doubt it :P

user139252

Nevermind. You guys can watch it on your own.

RobotHumans

6:10 PM

Hah. To be fair, it was Eddie Izzard.

user139252

Unixstickers donates 10% of the cost of some?

user139252

Neat.

Seth

@TheBrownOne yeah, check it out: unixstickers.com/donations

user139252

This show is chock full of Sony product placement.

Seth

that's because no one buys sony :P

RobotHumans

6:19 PM

aww. they make a nice gpu computing rig... er i mean multipurpose linux gaming system.

i do wonder though, if they sold it unlocked for gpu computing at a profit instead of a loss on the hardware, if they'ld make more money on that than game licensing.

if they did it for a year, it could be the source for a study on human ethics.

user139252

Okay, I thought so... RobotHumans is HBDGAF

RobotHumans

I already owned that when people just asked directly.

user139252

Asking is lame.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How are Linux kernel modules chosen to be enabled in a Linux distro's kernel package?

Although I know how to recompile my kernel to enable a module I want, I'm curious to know how the default Linux kernel modules are chosen in a Linux distribution's kernel package. Taking a comparison between the .config file of the Ubuntu linux-headers package and the Fedora kernel-devel package...

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Seth

Ars tries four hundred miles with Tesla’s autopilot.

Videonauth

6:58 PM

@TheBrownOne I wonder if theres a good plug-in which allows user pictures locally on server and no need for gravatar crap site?

user139252

@Videonauth For....?

Videonauth

wordpress

user139252

Ah, assumedly

Seth

7:13 PM

what do you have against gravatar? It's pretty nice.

Henry WH Hack

Why is it called gravatar anyway?

not that I have anything against gravatar.

Seth

not sure

Henry WH Hack

Were is the log file for ufw store /var/log?

Seth

UFW logs in syslog

Videonauth

7:39 PM

phew i got the site up and running so far :)

Henry WH Hack

@Videonauth Do you have time to help me?

Videonauth

what do you need to know ?

Henry WH Hack

In the vm Ubuntu boots to the initramfs command line.

How can I get out of that and boot to the OS?

Videonauth

mhmmm

i never had that happen to me

Henry WH Hack

I had my grammar wrong again. :(

It happened when I added the virtualbox guest additions.

Videonauth

7:49 PM

how did you add them ?

from an iso image or viw the host extensions ?

Henry WH Hack

It's taking me long to reply am I.

What's stackapps?

Nathan Osman

8:05 PM

It's for libraries and applications that use the Stack Exchange API.

Videonauth

@Seth have a look askubuntu.com/q/777002/522934

Henry WH Hack

So it's not a q&a

Videonauth

at first i had all kinds of alarm clocks ringing as i tried the link ;) luckily nothing gets executes here on my side without my explicit wish to do so

Nathan Osman

@HenryWHHack It is - but the scope is the Stack Exchange API.

user136984

@TheBrownOne No... I wasn't even aware that Americans did say anything to young boys... Why? What do they say?

Nathan Osman

8:11 PM

And the rules for objective Q&A are relaxed a bit.

I'm installing UE4 on this machine to give it a spin.

user136984

@Nathan: Also, was very busy yesterday and didn't manage to find time to watch the videos you linked me to, could I have the link again please? :)

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF0ymtt1nuZKz7YGTT-8cswqnzFVxIAan

user136984

Ah... Thank you! :)

user136984

Will have a look in just a moment...

Videonauth

@NathanOsman love it

Nathan Osman

8:16 PM

I just captured another video a few minutes ago. I might upload it a bit later.

Henry WH Hack

I am posting a comment on your first bird video..

Videonauth

only sad you missed the hatching itself :)

Nathan Osman

Yeah, I was having trouble with the wireless adapter for the Pi.

Henry WH Hack

@Videonauth Sorry about that it was the iso file.

Videonauth

@HenryWHHack have a look here askubuntu.com/a/719378/522934, you might need to download the extension pack from here download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.20/…

then install it like described in the au answer from cl-netbox

after that you have an option in the devices menu directly to insert the guest add on iso

Henry WH Hack

8:31 PM

Yes go on.

Videonauth

from this image you install the guest addition modules then

the iso image they have on their website is pretty outdated

you might want to do an sudo apt-get update and an sudo apt-get dist-upgrade before and install linux-headers-generic and build-essential

Henry WH Hack

Wait am in windows.

Videonauth

i know i mean in your vm

you might have to reinstall your vm tho

user136984

@Nathan: Is that a Robin?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Henry WH Hack

8:33 PM

But I can't even get to the vm to boot

@NathanOsman Check the comments on youtube.com/…. :D

LOL!

user136984

@Nathan: Well, looks nothing like it does here... Our Robins are much much smaller...

Henry WH Hack

NathanOsman is a very kind mod

or is he.

Seth

8:53 PM

@Videonauth that's.. not even valid python o_O

well, it is, but it doesn't work like that.

Videonauth

yeah :p i had all sorts of alarms going of as i accessed the site

;) this is why i removed the link

user136984

9:14 PM

@cl-netbox: I did all you said by the way with my 15.10 fresh install (partitioning wise) but LVM still stayed...

user139252

@ParanoidPanda Americans tell younger boys that there is a certain habit which causes abnormal hair growth on the palms

Zacharee1

Blegh. 9hrs collective sleep over two nights ain't fun

user136984

@TheBrownOne: Right... What habit?

user139252

I'd rather not say.

Zacharee1

Oh hey, it's @ParanoidPanda

Haven't seen you in a while

@TheBrownOne xD

@ParanoidPanda bfy.tw/ywI

user136984

9:20 PM

@TheBrownOne: I'm going to assume that it is of a sexual or otherwise inappropriate nature then. And no, @Zacharee1, I won't look at that strange looking link. ;P

user136984

@Zacharee1: Also, I had flu all last week so wasn't around.

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda it's LMGTFY, but with a shortened link so the word isn't stated

@ParanoidPanda ah

user136984

@Zacharee1: Even more reason for me not to click on it then! :D

Zacharee1

Just do it

user136984

If you don't want me to see what the search is for!

user136984

9:22 PM

Nope... :P

Zacharee1

I don't want to just state it here, but if you're OK with sexual words... :p

user136984

I just asked someone somewhere else and I think I've figured out what it was...

Zacharee1

Do tell

user136984

I'm fine, just as long as images don't come up... And with Google certain keywords normally trigger them...

user136984

@Zacharee1: I rather not, especially if I've got it wrong, that would be rather embarrassing then.

Zacharee1

9:24 PM

That'll just get you a Wikipedia page and maybe some Urban Dictionary links

user136984

What letter does the word start with?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda rhymes with master Haitian

Seth

kids these days.

Zacharee1

@Seth these days

Seth

indeed.

user136984

9:26 PM

@Zacharee1: Who's that?

Zacharee1

?

user136984

Oh that! Well, I was thinking of a word starting with 'W', but I'm pretty sure it means the same thing...

user136984

Anyway, can we please move on from this?

Zacharee1

No

Never

TheXed

9:48 PM

hi?

Nathan Osman

@TheXed the birds say "hi" ---^

TheXed

Hi birds

Nathan Osman

I still think they're ugly.

But don't tell them that.

It might affect their self-esteem.

TheXed

That reminds me I was outside planting some flowers when our baby robin jumped out of its nest

scared the crap out of me.

Nathan Osman

Lol.

TheXed

9:52 PM

Shh (they are kind of ugly)

@NathanOsman what software do you use for your camera?

Nathan Osman

The Pi camera?

Or the one I used to take that picture?

TheXed

The pi camera

Nathan Osman

github.com/silvanmelchior/RPi_Cam_Web_Interface

^--- that thing

TheXed

can I see a screen shot of the web interface?

user136984

Does anybody know of a StackApp which allows one to follow/monitor a certain user's activity easily? Also, are StackApps all safe, trustworthy and checked or are just in an app store that's not really checked by SE?

Nathan Osman

9:56 PM

@TheXed One sec...

RobotHumans

@TheXed These are amazing looking