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8:00 PM
Is there anyway of checking how big a stack exchange is?
say, view how large the particular askUbuntu (or whatever) exchange was, just curious
 
@baxx You mean how many questions we have?
 
@ByteCommander yeah I guess that'd be a decent judge
186,202
 
You may want to look at data.stackexchange.com
 
@ByteCommander seems weird that the Unix exchange has less questions than AskUbuntu
 
Examine the "queries". Every information you want could be fetched there...
 
8:04 PM
@ByteCommander yeah got it, cheers. Just got told off on irc for using Ubuntu, :(
 
@ByteCommander this was on a linux irc not windows lol, not sure if that pic is meant to relate ;)
 
@baxx what? Rants from Linux users against Ubuntu?
 
@ByteCommander yeah, after saying I used ubuntu no one would help ha, I'd fucked up my partitions tbf, but yeh.
 
@baxx Hmm unfortunately I can' find any similar picture against Linux...
But this one is also nice:
 
8:13 PM
@ByteCommander something shooting itself in the foot would probably work ;)
 
ask google... :)
 
i think alluding is enough for now
 
@A.B. yes...
ls /usr/sbin/pm-*
/usr/sbin/pm-hibernate /usr/sbin/pm-suspend
/usr/sbin/pm-powersave /usr/sbin/pm-suspend-hybrid
 
@Fabby yes?
 
@ByteCommander It's an answer to a question of a few hours ago...
pm-utils does hibernate, suspend, hybrid suspend and powersave
shutdown and reboot are different utils.
 
8:23 PM
@Fabby But no shutdown.
And that's what the OP needs to prevent.
 
I've got a script somewhere...
Huh?
Someone wants to prevent shutdown?
 
But there is an accepted answer...
 
He has a long script running sometimes and wants to prevent unattended-upgrade from restarting the machine while the script is running.
 
I would do as in the comments:
rename shutdown, reboot and /usr/sbin/pm*
done!
 
8:27 PM
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Q: Have Unattended-Upgrade perform check before restarting

KaralgaUnattended-Upgrade upgrades and restarts my machine without any issues. However, I have a python script that runs infrequently, but when it runs it may take days to complete. I would like to suspend automatic reboots while this script runs. What is the easiest way of achieving this?

You probably looked at the wrong Q?
 
AB's answer works...
(just upvoted)
 
Well, then everything is fine now. :)
My customized chatbot is running now, by the way.
 
In here?
 
No, in its garage.
wait...
 
In this chat room?
 
@Fabby yes?
 
@A.B. I answered your question...
Yes, I've had automatic updates reboot my computer...
Happens infrequently!
(maybe 2*/year?)
 
Oh, ok
 
Upvoted!
 
Thx
 
8:40 PM
@A.B. Comment should help even more...
He's not a newbie on LaTeX, but I treat him like one,
So he's going to be irked and show that he knows how to accept an answer...
(by accepting) ;-)
;-)
 
😁
 
@jrg: I was going through some old company stuff and came across this graph from a wayward Linode:
 
Fine, 270 points today 😊
 
@A.B. Better then me!
You know that 200 rep is the max per day?
 
Huh?
 
8:55 PM
Apparently you don't...
200 rep is the max per day (excluding bounties)
 
@Fabby not with a bunch of accepted anwsers
 
@Rinzwind Ah???
That's only for upvotes then???
 
@Fabby yes.
 
@Rinzwind o/
 
😂
 
8:57 PM
I knew bounties were excluded...
@A.B. Now you know why they call me "the confused and confusing Vorlon!"
;-)
 
Lol
 
@Rinzwind: Shell you tell OP that it depends entirely on his mainframe or will you???
;-)
Or close as off-topic?
@Rinzwind No answer = Close with custom close reason... >:-)
 
lol
that is an AS/400 iirc?
 
0
Q: Is this question inappropriate for the StackOverflow Q&A format?

chucksmashI asked a question earlier today (Why isn't there a 64-bit binary for Skype?) and immediately received a number of downvotes (with only 9 views the question had 3 downvotes). I've since edited the question in recognition of the fact that answerers likely can't speak for Microsoft's motivations. ...

 
9:16 PM
@Rinzwind >:) So? Are you going to answer?
 
nope
I do not like people that tell me what i can not do.
 
:D Me neither!
(don't like people that tell our mighty wizard what to do!)
:D:D:D
 
@AskUbuntuMeta huh....
probably compatibility and only having to ship one binary, but that is speculation...
 
9:54 PM
Yeah, I saw that question... It was getting hammered with downvotes. "But I want to ask!!!". I think the better question is:
"Why do you care? Windows doesn't need additional binaries installed to support multi-arch. Linux does. Oh and you're lucky you don't have to run it in wine any more anyway... so small victories."
 
The only way that question could be objectively answered would be by a Microsoft employee.
 
@hbdgaf I just had an interesting idea for a device
build a small device, with no connections, build encryption into the cpu - and only have power + e-reader display
 
@Nican lol, that part was funny too.
 
the device would do encryption, and just do something like show a qr code for encrypting/decrypting
 
Working on a eOS Freya final release video, Freya looks really good
@Mateo Ooo. Kinda like a PGP public/private key setup or those key-gen thingys?
 
10:03 PM
yeah, but separate it so the keys aren't compromised
 
0
Q: Toolbar icons unable to load when running Emacs through xhost from FreeBSD to Ubuntu

Aidan EdwardsI'm connected to a FreeBSD Computer using ssh [ip] -X, and emacs launches just fine, but this happens and all the icons are little pieces of paper with red X's: > emacs (emacs:22812): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Bug! loader 'png' didn't set an error on failure (emacs:22812): Gtk-WARNING **: Error lo...

 
Anybody knows what that python statement does?
re.compile("[^a-zA-Z0-9 _-]").search(cmd_args):
It outputs a boolean and probably returns true when the string cmd_args contains characters except alphanumerics and the symbols (space), (_), (-)? Or did I forget any symbol? And how do I add other allowed symbols?
 
@Mateo Yeah. That would be pretty cool.
 
10:19 PM
@ByteCommander Ask on the site... Jacob Vlijm is a Python guru...
 
@Fabby I'm just tweaking the ByteBOT so that it reacts on pings...
I don't really want to write that as Q and wait for As...
 
Yeah, so ask a question and get a room with Jacob!
 
And it would be OT anyway here.
 
He's Dutch so probably asleep now...
 
I would have to move it to SO...
 
10:20 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: I can't login as anonymous user to vsftpd server by jaan.bogers on askubuntu.com
 
@Fabby You're Dutch to, aren't you? ;) You are not asleep.
 
@ByteCommander Nah... Mention Ubuntu version and python version and smokebot for Ask U+buntu and most people will let it slide...
@ByteCommander Nein, bin ich nicht!
 
(facepalm) SORRY!
 
I speak some Dutch...
:P
 
Belgium was that little country north-west of me...
 
10:22 PM
That's where I'm now...
>:)
 
I tend to mix those two up now and then... :P
 
If I drive 100Km I'm in Germany
 
But don't come to me, I will infect you with my cold...
:-(
 
An ATA secure erase should be sufficient if I had an encrypted home directory, right?
I'm pretty sure I had encrypted swap enabled as well.
 
@NathanOsman ATA is a cleaning powder where I come from...
 
10:27 PM
@ByteCommander I've got a pretty good immune system... In my 25 year-career so far I've taken 2,5 sick days...
@NathanOsman Doing nothing should be good enough...
 
@Fabby You lucky one! I get those twice in a month sometimes...
 
@Fabby Yeah, but I also do need to clean the drive so that it is empty.
I'm not worried about the stuff in my home directory.
 
@NathanOsman Oh, yes, that should suffice!
 
@NathanOsman Next time, please give the full data set so a correct algorithm can be used! ;-)
 
10:30 PM
That's not exactly what I had in mind...
 
:D I know.
 
Though I think that would certainly securely erase the drive too
(permanently I might add)
 
But it's also very useful for cleaning! :)
 
Not if Nathan is planning on giving the drive away or so...
 
Not only for drives...
 
10:31 PM
It'll clean the magnets right off the platters!
 
@Mateo :D:D:D
 
@Mateo That HURTS my soul...
If the drive is rubbish, why not recycling them as sound system?
That sounds really cool: Must watch!
 
@ByteCommander that is the only "secure" way, there might still be data on them
 
Please watch the video, it sounds awesome!
 
10:39 PM
If we're talking about modern-day mechanical drives, simply disassembling them is enough to render them virtually useless for data recovery.
The track alignment on the disk surface is microscopically precise.
 
@NathanOsman Yes, but are you familiar with the current recovery methods?
 
Such as?
 
I am not, but I expect there are many things possible which the normal user could not even dream of...
But a different example:
 
I'm acutely aware of the precision required to make a modern mechanical drive work. It's mind-blowing.
 
sup?
 
10:43 PM
Some years ago, they recovered a vinyl from just a cover photo in an old newspaper, mabe from the 60s, I can't remember exactly...
So I bet it must be possible to blow the dust away and get the data back...
 
How do I force mount a NTFS drive?
 
@ByteCommander If the write head of the disk was enlarged to be the size of the Sears tower in Chicago and the platter were enlarged by an equal amount, the head of the drive would be hovering literally (I believe) 3 mm from the disk surface.
And you know what else? There's a spring pushing the head against the platter. Guess what causes the head to hover over the surface instead of scraping it?
(This is truly fascinating.)
 
?
The air flow because of the rotation?
 
Air pressure from the platters spinning.
@ByteCommander Hey, good guess :)
 
@ByteCommander or how they scanned the edison recordings - livescience.com/…
 
10:47 PM
one ms later and yours would have been first.
 
And if the rotation speed were also enlarged to scale, the outer edge would be spinning at about 3 million miles/hr.
It's a wonder that they survive small drops, bumps, and jolts from everyday use.
 
Talking of rotation speeds:
 
> "Don't do this at home. Or in your garage."
 
yeah, did you see the mythbusters episode about the 56x speed drives - there is a reason cd speeds capped out at around 52x
 
@NathanOsman The NSA uses an electron microscope!
 
10:55 PM
How does that work with magnetic media?
 
so, yeah by page 35 they are showing images that represent data on the disk
 
@muru: so I've retracted my close vote and cast my first undelete vote... askubuntu.com/questions/612218/path-problem-with-fastboot Anything more i can do???
@NathanOsman I have to look up the exact technical details,
It's been a while,
but if I remember correctly, they built a kind of "scanner" that uses very low current that generates a very low magnetic field, that "scans" the disk platters
and then re-constitutes them in virtual platters, sectors, ... and then virtually reads the data...
 
I'm sure that unless you have state secrets on your disk, nobody will have access to those kinds of tools :P
 
like an electron microscope
Give it a few years and it'll show up in data recovery labs...
And I wasn't implying that opening up a HDD doesn't destroy it...
 
There they explain the microscope for HDDs.
 
11:08 PM
... I was implying that an ATA secure erase is better...
 
@hbdgaf I can't remember if it was you asking the other day about parsing SWFs, but I found the original Python script I wrote: gist.github.com/nathan-osman/d86b9877221367e63088
 
@Fabby Now you mean my ATA cleaning, don't you?
 
@NathanOsman When in doubt, stay with your first idea!
@ByteCommander Mail server etc... :P
 
then I missed the context... :-/
 
@ByteCommander that CD resembles me right now...
 
11:10 PM
I also found an AppIndicator for displaying my public IP address: gist.github.com/nathan-osman/0a2ac74d800a2eff9540
 
HDD surface with Atomic Force Microscope (left) and Magnetic Force Microscope (right)
 
@ByteCommander Nathan: to destroy a HDD you don't need to shred it, just open it up
 
From the link above.
 
me: no, it can still be read afterwards...
 
11:12 PM
@ByteCommander Keep in mind that that was published in 1997, though.
Things have come quite a ways since then.
 
use ATA secure erase (the sioftware version)
@ByteCommander get the context now?
 
@Fabby Yes. But then you did not understand what I meant.
 
OK, care to explain?
 
44 mins ago, by ByteCommander
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Goes back to writing Excel macros...
 
11:14 PM
^ my understanding of a safe ATA cleaning for old HDDs...
 
Yes, I got the "Mutti" version...
It'll clean the magnetic media right off the platters...
(more work then ATA Secure Erase in firmware though)
:P
@ByteCommander does anyone still use that nasty stuff???
There are much better cleaning products nowadays...
 
@Fabby Dunno... Last time I saw it was maybe 8 years ago at my grandma's...
 
:D
g'night!
 
good night! o/
 
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