hahah

Windows pisses me off a lot :/

Visual Studio is super nice but I'm having a hard time doing multi-platform stuff

(C++)

I found this project on SourceForge that looks promising but I haven't had the time to try it yet: sourceforge.net/projects/vcproj2cmake

Any ideas/recommendations?

multi-platform sucks in a big way. Unity handles it nicely, which is the main reason i use it

learn cmake?

kongregate version of Cognizer took me maybe 3-4 hours to get working.

R-Type is not a shooter. It's a puzzle game.

memorization is most of it

another "no" answer!

with C++, yeah, cmake is great. as long as you're not going mobile it'll solve most of your problems.

it still solves the same problems if you want to support mobile, but mobile adds a lot more problems

Keith Moon is a crazy-ass drummer.

I am an ass drummer too

hahah

int32 iszero(int32 x) { return -(x >> 31 ^ (x - 1) >> 31); }

Wut da Frick

I don't even...

more keith moon

drums are center track. I can play that damned song on rock band expert pro. It's fucking hard.

which instrument

oh rock band

i misread that xD

I really dislike that std::sort does sometimes a custom std::swap using move semantics, but I need it to call swap everytime it actually wants to swap

ooh that iszero() function is sort of cool

once I stop playing LoL, i'm getting real drums and renting a practice room and I'm going to learn to play real drums in earnest.

after hundreds of hours on rock band drums, I can play reasonably well already.

it's testing whether the first bit changes when you subtract 1 from the input. the first bit represents whether the number is positive or negative, and that would only change if the input is 0.

it's just hard to come up with your own fills and breaks when you're used to reading them off the screen. :)

cool ill jam with you on bandhub with my guitar :P

wait, nvm, function is flawed. first bit would also change if the input was -2,147,483,648, the minimum value for int32

Any of you guys developing in unity?

@Jon uses GameMaker

no he don't lol don't lie :P sodium chloride doesn't lie :P

people lie all the time when they're salty

@Dave me

brilliant

but I do mostly 2d

so I can't help if it's 3d

what you working on almo?

not asking for help just curious what everyone's working on

maniac-games.com/WebGames/Cognizer-Free

this is the free version of my latest game

waiting for it to load

20 MB, has a lot of audio

1/4 the audio of the mobile app though :)

thats cool, surprisingly harder than i expected

This has potential

have you learnt much do's and don't for mobile optimisation ?

With more juicyness it might become a great hit in the Appstore

For real

Yeah, it seems really easy when the task is described, but it fucks with your head. :)

the app store one has speed mode and zen mode, plus a lot more sound track

it's as much an atmospheric game as it is a puzzle game

i want to optimize mine for tablets at some point

it lacks particles

ive yet to look into the important battery saving ideas

@Dave much of my do/don't for mobile comes from my job where I work with unity

battery: make sure you set it to run 30 FPS

60 chews battery for little gain unless it's a high-action game

you're app could get away with lower than 30

do not allocate memory in Update if you can avoid it.

Cognizer's main menu looks bad below 30, but the core gameplay would work fine at 10

@NaCl Yeah, I can use cmake but I like VS :P

do not do string concatenation, since it allocates

use StringBuilder instead

@pip they can work together

cmake can generate VS sln files with filters and everything

@Pip Maybe, there exists some VS plugin?

And I know you can generate VS solutions from a CMakeList.txt file

easier than managing filters in visual studio. those things piss me off.

^

no idea why VS went with that instead of just showing folders by default, even if there is a button to switch to that

me too

Oh, is there really?

lol

yeah I think it's "show all files" or something like that, above the file tree

guess i better start working on unity before i procrastinate too much to the point i do no work at all

:D

youtube.com/watch?v=FkpuN_N0DJk some people are just born with talent

That is actually quite easy if you'd practice it a bit

I can do that as well

The most important thing is the right amount of water inside the bottle

that's a stolen video. original here: youtube.com/watch?v=GdUVtEeg9I4&feature=youtu.be

even that may not be the original, but that's the one that hit the front page of reddit anyway

I learned to do that with salt shakers in college.

took a lot of practice

Cross-platform development in C++ is a nightmare

I've spent the last ~4 hours trying to figure out how to intelligently use the same codebase (mostly) for this without using a separate make system for each OS

CMake seemed like a good option but I can't do per-platform, and SDL has different libraries per-platform

use UnrealEngine. It handles some of that for you, I think.

:)

eh, depends what you're doing. gamedev and console programs are both relatively easy, but normal GUI programs are a nightmare in C++ even if you don't need to be cross-platform.

(I just hate fucking with shit like that. I'll make a game single platform before I'll deal with that kind of crap.)

I've been thinking about it

Icy, any tips?

also you can do per-platform things with cmake...sort of

it's more per-compiler but in effect it's the same thing

github.com/IcyDefiance/nIceVulkan/blob/master/nIceVulkan/…

something like that. MSVC is set if it's generating files for VC++, otherwise I'm just assuming it's generating for gcc. (bad assumption, but it's simple and works for me right now, lol.)

add_executable(nIceFramework WIN32... ?

@Almo yeah, lets make a game using DirectX and shitty porting that for GNU/Linux

hahah

there's nothing direct about directx

@Pip that flag sets the "subsystem" to a windows application instead of a console one, so it won't automatically create a console. not sure if it's really needed or not...

I added that along with the "/ENTRY:mainCRTStartup" compiler flag so I could use main() instead of WinMain() without spawning a console. windows is annoying like that.

Got it

What's your workflow like? Also do you have platform-specific libs like I do with SDL?

oh it looks like I'm not linking vulkan on the gcc branch... lol I never got enough code written to test that.

lol

Btw Icy

CMAKE_COMPILER_IS_GNUCXX

and WIN32

Those are the hacky booleans that people use apparently

workflow...basically whenever I add a new file I rerun cmake, and whenever I add a new folder I modify CMakeLists.txt and then rerun it. modifying CMakeLists.txt wouldn't even be necessary if not for the source groups, but meh it's more annoying to not have the filters in visual studio.

Got it

if you only edit a file then you can just recompile, nothing else needed

How did you set up cmake on Windows?

compilation also runs cmake as a precompilation step

there's an installer somewhere. should automatically add itself to your PATH.

Cool

Whoa, there's a bool that checks for the MS compiler

MSVC

And you can check for GCC with that thing above

WIN32, APPLE, UNIX, the list goes on

huh

cmake does run automatically in visual studio, but if you create a file using a file explorer, visual studio won't pick it up automatically, so it won't run cmake

Got it

I don't trust visual studio to create files in the right location in C++ projects so I always use explorer for that, lol