Game Development

Sorry, works correctly now.

@Froxer You mean gaming over Wifi??

DH.

And you probably meant to be on Arqade(gaming SE) and not here on gamedev

no, i mean i will put a cord in the router and into my comp. The wifi will just act as a gateway for phones et.c.

11:29 AM

Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about

AC modes don't matter if you're wired in LAN, just make sure it fits your bandwidth needs

my bandwith needs are not too much, just be able to surf basically @ the router.

I mean, 100mbit ports aren't good for mass file transfer but work fine for gaming

To me it seemed like a good router for cheap, is like 200 swedish kr in webhallen right now.

Buy it then

11:30 AM

I'm using gigabit wired ethernet because I'd saturate 100mbit with my internet but =p

ASUS is good brand 200kr is dirt cheap

ye

it looked really good, webhallen has a discount right now on it

but friend was like fuck that thing, check for x , x , x and i asked why ? but didnt get a good explanation.

It's not a modern router by any means

but 200kr is like $25, so fair deal

But for gaming it should work fine. I'd suggest one with gigabit ports though

11:33 AM

Why gig ports tho ? I Only have 100down, 10up?

i want to buy a new keyboard and mouse

gig ports for intranet

I want to by Gorb

@Jon have you used Massdrop before?

I dont really switch files around inside of the gateway

no

11:33 AM

They have wonderful keyboards and mice at huge discounts

i download some files from outside the gateway occasionally.

Ok, some people stream HD video, for example

People vote on the best gear and buy it as a group for massive discount

I dont

to a setup box

Or, game streaming like, Steam

11:34 AM

No, i mean i used to do twitch before

@Jon massdrop.com/mechanical-keyboards

Best to have wired for that kind of stuff -- Gig is overkill though in most applications

i was pretty succesfull twitch.tv/froxerBBQ but i havent streamed in half a year now.

cool

and i used to do it wired ofc.

so tl;dr the router is just fine?

11:35 AM

should be

I'd get one that supports dd-wrt

because I'm a tinkerer

@Jon I second that, but dd-wrt usually has noticable benefits even if you don't like tweaking stuff

Agreed

WRT54GL

if you want a solid router

at affordable price

flash it with DD-WRT and you have yourself a 1000$ router

Make sure it is the L version!

Alright, i will look it up on pricerunner.

how do i know if said router is the L version ?

If you're really a tinkerer, you can build your own router, it's pretty fun

Build my own router? Now we are really talking. :)

11:37 AM

It will say in the model number... the non-L version does not do dd-wrt

If you want to build your own router, that is a totally different lifestyle

@Jon I use ArchLinux, so I've already gone too far down the tinkerer path

:D

try gentoo

you have to compile it on your pc

Is it a good idea to add a game as concept on steam? I mean, it's free, so why not if you can actually show something?

install gentoo

You can, however, it costs 100$

I've really had a great experience with Gentoo for personal computing, although for all of my clients I've installed Ubuntu server despite the fact I hate Ubuntu

11:40 AM

No itdoesn't

Adding a concept costs nothing

Adding it as game for greenlight costs 100$

what is concept?

Where would you add the concept?

Steam

Outside of greenlight? or in it I mean?

No, in greenlight

11:41 AM

Just in the greenlight forums?

Someone tried to commandeer my /r/Uranus subreddit

I wasn't aware you could list something in greeenlight without paying?

shakes fists

Uranus is mine!

idk, it says you can add it with the same functionality as possible-greenlight-games, meaning comments and stuff

I laughedtoo hard at that one

I think I'm immature

11:42 AM

Good

It's interesting, but what's the benefit you want to get out of it?

We don't want to trigger you

Why do you use Ubuntu and not Debian?

@MattJensJensen People see your game and tell you if they like it

"hate it"

I prefer Debian, but for a while Debian didn't have good HVM support on AWS

HVM saved about $20,000 per month

11:44 AM

what is HVM?

volt monitor?

Hardware virtualization optimizations

virtualization*

It's good to hate Ubuntu :)

Ubuntu brings linux to your parents though

I like Ubuntu

I hate Ubuntu mainly for the global search and privacy issues

Same reason I hate windows 10

which can be disabled

Windows 10 doesn't allow you to disable it

11:45 AM

True, but I loved the convienient ArchLinux install ;)

I used to like Mints direction

I use Spybot AntiBeacon and disable Cortana in Windows 10

Now I hate it

Mint was great, but a lot of misteps

Debian makes me all teary eyed

Linux needs a visual studio

MonoDevelop is the best option

11:48 AM

@Jon it makes me very sad that I can't get Vim exactly the way I want

in my opinion

I love the linux toolchain

but I wish I could have more type deduction and documentation peaking in Vim

Especially when using OpenVR and VulkanC++

I'm more a fan of modernized IDEs

Their documentation is completely broken, their headers are the only real docs

I love Visual Studio

I wish the full Visual Studio worked on linux

Makes my job a heck of a lot easier.

11:50 AM

I wish SteamVR would make its way to linux too

I think it will

SteamOS will support it for sure

I have an HTC Vive next to my computer waiting for more use

FUUUUUUUUUU

I have a PC that can push the pixels

But no Vive

Debugging tip: be very careful that you don't let your transformation matrix make you throw up violently

Ideally, I'd have one right now so I can write shit for it

But that would take me away even further from my active projects.

11:52 AM

I got so lucky with it

They day I ordered it

it shipped out

Yeah, they are all backordered to hell right now

@Jon NOPE, my dad has Debian and he's not a tech-guy

despite it was only shipping preordered

I can't afford it

Might be able to afford consumer version 2 next year :)

It's a pretty pricy rig

11:53 AM

@Jon it's called emacs :P

You are an early adopter

Honestly I shouldn't have bought it

It is only going to get better

Just quit startup

also, fuck Oculus. :)

closed standards? i spit on you

11:53 AM

Also bought two 980 Ti Classifieds right before 1080 announcement

Fuck Occulus

Indeed

They are causing a lot of bullshit in the space.. fuck them.

Locking out games

OpenVR API actually looks pretty cool future

oculus is facebook

Yup

I'm not a fan of facebook

Yeah, and they have been updating their API to fuck over Vive users

11:54 AM

fuck facebook

I would write a post on facebook saying fuck facebook

Changing standards just to lock them out

yeah, nice DRM

@NaCl naah, emacs is a decent desktop environment, not a modern IDE

@Jon and having that broken again 3 days later =p

@KevinvanderVelden EMACS is more like a full Operating System

With LISP only development

11:55 AM

@MattJensJensen not really, it doesn't have graphics drivers or anything =p

Don't you think the GNU mascot looks a bit like Stallman?

Lord Stallman the holy?

Nah, the mascot has less hair

No insult intended, I like this guy

11:56 AM

@KevinvanderVelden the cat and mouse game is un-neccessary is what I am saying, they are creating hurdles just because they are dicks

They want to be the de-facto platform for VR

HURDles

By bullying

@Jon agreed, I was pointing out how ineffective it was

I've got a DK2 and was debating on which one to get but I'm just gonna get a Vive now

Not only that, but the original pitch was to keep everything OPEN

I just hate that as developers, we're going to have to put up with Oculus because so many people bought it

11:57 AM

fuck people

Yes, please support Vive.

Steam == Vive

That is a no brainer.

I think most people that are going to invest in this tech are going to put those two together.

SteamVR and OpenVR are almost entirely for Vive

and I'm really happy about it

I wonder if there's a openvr => oculus API library

It does

Yes, it works on all sets

11:58 AM

(The ReVive thing is the other way arround)

That is the entire point.

Oculus SDK is for Oculus

fuck everyone else approach.

Oculus SDK also has a limited rendering model as far as I'm aware

Can't render to Oculus with Vulkan

lol

Have to hack it to render with OpenGL