Game Development

Blue Bug

12:18 AM

@GnomeSlice Catherine?!

Almo

@Sie yeah

Blue Bug

Oh... it's the same studio

Their previous game had such a similar look.

GnomeSlice

12:54 AM

@Almo It just looks like a traditional page-at-a-time interface, animated in 3D.

@BlueBug Persona 5

tkausl

this unproject-math is driving me crazy

I got it almost working, the only problem is that x and z are positive/negative-flipped...

Blue Bug

X is positive but z is negative? oh... their sign is wrong

Just multiply them by -1?

tkausl

Yeah i could do that

But there has to be something wrong in my math

otherwise this shouldn't even happen

Actually

I'm just dumb

Thats what happens when you expect the model to look into -z direction when it actually looks into +z direction...

Blue Bug

1:41 AM

you are a human, humans are dumb. Machines are correct. Machines are never wrong.

warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_God

join our circle of Quest for Knowledge. Heavenly glory to the Omnissiah, the Machine God.

NaCl

2:14 AM

@PearsonArtPhoto "Sample tests: 6/6 Hidden tests: 1/6"

ffs

lost the fun

PearsonArtPhoto

It happens...

Which one was that?

NaCl

uhh it's the last test of the second bot

PearsonArtPhoto

There are a few broken things.

Ahh, I've seen a few of those that are broken...

NaCl

the recurring date stuff

PearsonArtPhoto

The bots are more broken than the rest of the site.

NaCl

2:18 AM

still won with 614 compared to "his" 375

Alexandre Vaillancourt

2:40 AM

@Tyyppi_77 BAM 1k rep! Gz :P

NaCl

@PearsonArtPhoto Although I like the site, I better stay away from it. The nintendo challenge from codeingame does consume a lot of my leisure time alone, so yeah

codingame.com/ide/16445277da7f00c4bc12a5b6f81caba35033942

Blue Bug

@Tyyppi_77 did u write from scratch for your gunhero website?

Almo

@GnomeSlice Yeah. It's beautiful and easy to navigate.

The other one you posted is noisy and not so easy to understand.

GnomeSlice

idk, I don't find a huge wall of identical squares particularly easy to navigate

Almo

have you played the game?

I have. it works very well.

GnomeSlice

3:16 AM

Cool.

Blue Bug

What is the game

I want to participate in the conversation, is it possible to link me to the "game"

GnomeSlice

@BlueBug Which game?

Blue Bug

32 mins ago, by Almo

have you played the game?

GnomeSlice

Dirt something or other

user92578

4:05 AM

@BlueBug yes

user92578

@AlexandreVaillancourt :)

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Tyyppi_77 I'm writing an answer on that. That guy seems hmm, n00b.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

4:23 AM

I'm answering him to piss him off.

Sie

But why?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Why what?

Sie

Why are you trying to piss him off?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Because I felt insulted by his comment.

Sie

Ah. Must have missed something. I didn't catch what he said.

Also I think that someone on the ProBuilder team must be ghosting here or something lol. Earlier I was complaining about ProBuilder Basic making a certain function (set pivot) a paid feature. Low and behold I notice there is an update today and now it's no longer a premium feature. Neat.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

4:28 AM

@Sie gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/121683/…

I'm referring to that comment.

@Sie That's nice :P

Sie

Clearly we need to bitch more in here :P. And people say complaining solves nothing. Well whatever that will save me some time.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Sie Hmm?

Sie

Actually it was last updated in April. I guess they just changed around some features.

Well never mind my theory.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Oh :)

Leggy7

6:53 AM

@AlexandreVaillancourt lol, the guy is an arrogant noob dick from portugal. you should not feel insulted :)

he belongs to the community StackOverflow em Portugues, LOL

why the hell esp, port and greece has dedicated section of SO? of the series "we like to practice foreign languages, and we are good!"

Kevin van der Velden

8:31 AM

They don't have a section of SO

They have a stack exchange because there was enough people saying they'll help with it

Leggy7

yeah, was just wondering why just portugal, spain and greece

not the most populated states

tkausl

Because others prefer the english stackoverflow for better and world-wide information sources

Kevin van der Velden

Only about 405 million people speak spanish (more than speak english), 215 million speak portugese, and 12 million speak greek

So the real question is why is there an english section? Clearly SO should be in mandarin with nearly a billion speakers

Leggy7

consider english is one of the national languages in India, add 1.2 bilion ppl

Kevin van der Velden

One of the national languages != 100% of people speak it

I've linked the source of my numbers

About 10% speak english, 0.019% have it as their first language (this is a link, the color is really annoying)

Leggy7

8:41 AM

yeah that a list of native speakers

I have a page in italian, so im not linking it :)

which considers also the second spoken language

numbers are:

Kevin van der Velden

Ah, hadn't spotted that: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

1.5 billion english, 0.56 billion spanish, .25 billion portugese, greece isn't even listed

Still, the reason there are stack exchanges for other languages is because there's a demand for it and it barely costs the SO team any time

Area 51 ftw

ntohl

You learn anatomy in latin, tho 0 person speaks it...

Kevin van der Velden

No, you learn latin words for it. You don't speak latin while learning it

There is a difference =p

ntohl

even Klingon have more person as native language

(1)

Kevin van der Velden

Doubtful

ntohl

8:50 AM

todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/08/…

Kevin van der Velden

> Today the teenage Alec no longer is fluent in Klingon and reportedly can’t even pick out the meaning of individual words of the language.

So while interesting I don't think that counts =p

Leggy7

9:10 AM

poor boy :(

ntohl

how badass it is... "Klingon is my second mother tounge..."

Leggy7

bullied like hell for sure

this thing of observer pattern looks kinda good

Kevin van der Velden

9:30 AM

Considering they stopped at 3 doubtful

Leggy7

aww lord, I didnt read the tldr article :)

Leggy7

10:19 AM

If I have a GUI panel with opacity 100% and I want a certain part (the part overlaying a particular GameObject behind) to become transparent, is there anything I can do?

tkausl

10:30 AM

I'd draw only that object in a new buffer, draw the ui on yet another buffer and then use both buffers to draw the ui on the backbuffer and decide in the fragment-shader the alphavalue to use

PearsonArtPhoto

12:57 PM

user92578

smooth!

PearsonArtPhoto

Yep, it looks better for sure!

William Mariager

So, I managed to talk the people at my job into redoing the project properly.

user92578

absolutely

William Mariager

Also, looks great @PearsonArtPhoto.

PearsonArtPhoto

1:00 PM

Now, I can actually say I did something this week... Sigh.

I might do a bit more tweaking, but good enough for now...

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Leggy7 I wasn't aware that some Portuguese speaking ppl were that much worse than the average programmer!

Siddharth

anybody can able to give me suggestion for this?

-2

Q: Not able to receive notifications in all devices

For my game, I have established notification system via custom server usage. So web developer created notification setup for me. In this, I am facing one problem. In my two iPhones, I am getting notification always but my client can't able to detect any notification in his any iPhone devices. Wh...

user92578

No clue, would need more info

user92578

errors? warnings? logs?

PearsonArtPhoto

New Dev Blog- Sea Trading Game. Curvy graphics, seeing tile resources. kd7uiy.com/2016/05/sea-trading-game-slow-march-of-progress.html

Siddharth

1:12 PM

this is big problem sir because web developer displaying log for each deviceToken

but every deviceToken display success in delivery

user92578

well how would you debug without debugging???

user92578

ideas???

Siddharth

so that I consider it as an region related issue

user92578

"something is going wrong, can you guess what it is?"

Siddharth

web developer printing status for each notification sent request

but in that he was getting 75 as code status and message as "Send message successfully..."

we are in sandbox environment right now

Kevin van der Velden

1:14 PM

Ooh! I wanna guess

user92578

:D

Kevin van der Velden

Is it that you're not telling us anything useful to help fix the problem?

Siddharth

I know some what broad question but even on other end I am helpless

to figure out what is going wrong

because my all iPhones getting notifications by running same code

even client can able to send notification to my devices

I am asking this because any of you may be hear about something similar problem by other person like me

Leggy7

@AlexandreVaillancourt worse in which sense? like comunicative caphabilities?

Jesus Christ

Kneel before your King!

Kevin van der Velden

1:24 PM

Listen, in a few thousand years you'll invent a game called 'SimCity' which has a 'disaster' button, and then you'll understand.

Relevant

Alexandre Vaillancourt

1:37 PM

@Leggy7 I'd say arrogance :P

Leggy7

1:56 PM

@AlexandreVaillancourt They have so little arguments to be arrogant :) I think it's better if they have their own community

Alexandre Vaillancourt

:P

genaray

I've got a problem. I have got a really messy player class in my game. Thats not the rpboelm ^^. Because of that i tried to "sort" my classes. So i made a entity interface with plenty of methods like getPosition and so on. I also made an Entity class which implements the Interface Entity. In that class i define all the methods and how they work together. Right after that i made a new player class which extends the entity one.

I loaded some animations, did some other stuff and finally tested my class. When i use my new Player class which extends Entity i get masssssive fps drops. With the messy "old" one there no problems O.o Are interfaces and Classes which extends other ones so "slow" ? or did i coded something wrong ?

user92578

Profile it

Alexandre Vaillancourt

^This

user92578

OOP cleaning shouldn't make a difference

genaray

2:02 PM

How to do that ? Never did that before ...

user92578

There should be a tool like that in your IDE

Alexandre Vaillancourt

It should not make a big difference; OOP has its overhead

user92578

^ right

user92578

I'd guess that there's just a simple bug you've created while refactoring

genaray

My differenz is huge. Before cleaning : 1400 fps, after cleaning 200

That could be possible :/ Does anyone know if theres such a profile tool in Eclipse ?

user92578

2:03 PM

How much code is it, I could also take a quick glance at it if you'd like.

user92578

Java I'm guessing?

user92578

212

A: Eclipse Java Profiler

VisualVM works great and is included in recent JDK releases. It's not an eclipse plugin, but does that really matter? And BTW: TPTP is an unholy abomination of overengineered crap. Getting it to work involves sacrificing at least one black goat, and getting any results takes forever.

genaray

Yeah java with libgdx >.< Sure would be very happy about that. The "Main thread" isnt so big. The new class isnt so big either. Where i should post the code ?

DH.

gist and share the link

user92578

yeah gist is nice

genaray

2:05 PM

Alright :) It will take a moment

Kevin van der Velden

@genaray sooo, 0.00071 second versus 0.005 seconds

Can someone write a bot that whenever someone posts FPS in chat it gets converted to seconds per frame?

user92578

Or when someone says that they have an FPS issue, the bot would say "Profile it."

Kevin van der Velden

Nah that's about as annoying as saying "just google it" when done automatically

genaray

Should i delete the parts which arent necassary ? Or you wanna see them too ^^

user92578

if it's not a ton, you don't have to start cutting methods out or anything

DH.

2:11 PM

You would do that if you make a question on the site

user92578

sure, but this is not a question on the site

DH.

Just meant to remember him about it :P

genaray

So im done. gist.github.com/anonymous/08ed8d43717edb12d9535b75d5bdbfb8 Thanks :)

wrong url

No sorry, that should be the right one ^^

user92578

timer.scheduleTask(new Task() {
			@Override
			public void run() {}
}, 1f);

user92578

That stands out a little for me. Do you call this 200 times a second?

genaray

2:19 PM

Normally it should be called every 1 second >.<

But wait, why you suggest 200 times a second ?

user92578

No but you schedule a new task each time update is called

user92578

200FPS -> 200 calls to update?

genaray

Hmmm could be possible :D let me try it, one moment

So i tried it, but that wasnt the problem :/ Got the same performance as before

user92578

Then I would definitely suggest profiling

user92578

I couldn't take a very detailed look at your code

genaray

2:29 PM

Alright, thanks for your help and your time :) Than ill try it with a profiler

genaray

3:09 PM

I dont get it .... the Gdx profiler shows me that everything is fine... With my old player is even got more draw calls/calls and texture bindings and also a better fps than with my new one O.o

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Did you try a Java profiler; maybe it's not related to libGDX but rather the usage of the language? Maybe you ended up creating new instances and copies of stuff where you did not before?

PearsonArtPhoto

Unity FINALLY acknowledged the text rendering bug I sent them like a month ago.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@PearsonArtPhoto BATTLE WON! But the war is far from over, I guess!

PearsonArtPhoto

Seriously, it took a total of 5 additional emails from me to get them to admit it was buggy...

issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/… is the report in the Issue Tracker, if you want to upvote it...

Alexandre Vaillancourt

3:24 PM

I don't use Unity :)

PearsonArtPhoto

Actually, while it's my issue, it's not my bug report... Sigh. Oh well.

That means there are at least 2 people who submitted the same report, however:-)

Almo

just put cognizer up on Kongregate

5

DH.

Nice!

And just voted on the issue Pearson :)

PearsonArtPhoto

Cool!

And thanks!

DH.

I'll probably run on this issue later, because I need to use some texts in a work from the university

Alexandre Vaillancourt

3:29 PM

@Almo Can you make money off Kongregate? I think so, right?

Almo

yeah, from ads served on your game's page

PearsonArtPhoto

Yes, you can.

genaray

So i profiled again. And it showed me that theres like no differenz between both... So why the hell is there such a massive fps drop using the new player O.o

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Cool nice then!

DH.

And from donations if players ever are so kind to do that

But I already saw in the donation list of a game a guy donation 20$

Almo

3:32 PM

Mainly I want people to click Get The App and buy the mobile version.

PearsonArtPhoto

Of course, the fact that they only listed the bug 3 days ago and I reported it something like 3-4 weeks ago doesn't count for much... Sigh.

DH.

This flash version is full as the mobile one?

Almo

It's WebGL, and it's not the full game

1/4 the audio, and only standard mode.

DH.

Ohhh OK

Didn't know that Kongregate was accepting WebGL builds now

PearsonArtPhoto

I suspect they have to.

There is a war against Flash.

Almo

3:34 PM

since unity 5.3.5 made WebGL not "preview" anymore I think

PearsonArtPhoto

And any web player, for that matter.

DH.

Yeah since Flash is slowly dying and Unity Web Plugin is dying as well

Almo

also 5.4 will not support WebPlayer any more

PearsonArtPhoto

They aren't dying, they are being murdered!

Almo

no, the web player is dying because the NPAPI has been deprecated

PearsonArtPhoto

3:34 PM

Google has an active vendetta against them.

DH.

Yeah

Almo

NPAPI is insecure for certain reasons, and should go the way of the dodo

Flash always sucked anyway

I made one flash game in 2009, never wanted to touch it again

PearsonArtPhoto

I'm not complaining about it, but...

PearsonArtPhoto

3:56 PM

Just upgrading to 5.3.5. Submitted a bug report when updating that it is downloading Web Player by default, but not WebGL, even though WebPlayer isn't supported... Sigh.

And why can't it remember that I always select WebGl and Android when I upgrade? Come on people, it's not that hard... Sigh.

Carte Blanche concept

►

I guess that's why they can't get it right, head stuck in VR?

DH.

4:19 PM

Everybody is

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