@ChristianFrantz if you had some pure virtuals that are used to get the relevant information, sure

Mhm

I lied about going to sleep, apparently

you should be able to write a single collision function for your item class, if the item class contains all the information it needs for that function.

Lying in bed on a mobile device :P

public Vector2 Position;
        public Texture2D Texture;
        public int NumberOfItems;
        public Rectangle ItemRectangle;
        public ItemType itemType;
        public bool ItemPickedUp;

Yeah, Icy is right here

Thats what each item inherits from my item class

@ChristianFrantz do you know what a pure virtual is?

ItemRectangle is enough information for AABB collision, and Texture is enough info for pixel perfect collision.

so yeah

Mhm

you shouldn't need a virtual function for it though

so how would I turn something like List<Twig> twigs into List<Item> allItems?

No i dont

twigs.Cast<Item>()

...I think

this is C# right?

yeah

should work then

Or you could just start with a list of evey item

Does Twig inherit from Item?

yeah all of my items will inherit from the main Item class

It does, so you should be able to add twigs to a list of type item

right, my answer was for converting a list of twigs to a list of items

Oh so youre saying just a huge list of all the items that inherit the Item class

you might also be able to do allItems.AddRange(twigs);

but if you're just adding twigs one at a time, you can just do that with the normal Add function

Could work @Christian, if you want to

Just one of the many ways to do it

That would mean I need to create an object Item in my main game to use the collision function... I think

do you know what polymorphism is, christian?

Alright, actually crashing now. Night

o/

Like inheritance? I dont know the exact definition

codeproject.com/Articles/602141/Polymorphism-in-NET

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms173152.aspx

both good links

bit dense reading, though. might want to do it when you're feeling fresh.

Ah so Id be using polymorphism when I create a giant list with every single item

according to the msdn doc

dammit

Polymorphism lets you change your behaviour based upon the dynamic type of the object

Whenever I see polymorphism I think of that yugioh card

lol

what xD

i dont know why

If I had one list of all my items, that might affect performance when I have to loop through the whole list to find what I collided with

@ChristianFrantz Ehh kinda. You would be using generics. However, polymorphism would allow you to iterate through the items and have them perform type specific logic without any casing to the child types.

It's something easiest explained with examples I think

True

Ill try it out and see how it works

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LOL

:| yikes

Ugg web development. I started 2 hours ago on a fresh vm and I've installed 8gb of libraries, templates, and what not.

lol :(

It takes installing both NodeJS and Ruby just to get the dumb SASS compiler working.

doing my head in over networking just ain't worth it

^

@ClassicThunder I use Node, Gulp, and gulp-sass. I've really been liking Gulp lately

Also check out Prepros if you are on Windows and just want to compile some Sass without the fuss.

I'm on xubuntu. I can't tell is Gulp a build tool, NodeJS module, or both?

@IcyDefiance in for a lol game?

yeah I can play 1 or 2, then I'll have to finish this homework. not much left, and I plan to be up until 3 or 4, so no worries.

ok

lol login queue

@Chris I feel for ya but I don't have much choice -- my game is MMO so networking is a MUST HAVE :)

and its next on my list once I get physics and ray picking working right :)

we've already got some baseline code -- low level stuff -- in place -- but it needs a LOT of work

@Ascendion hehe fair enough :P good to get the base in earlier than later

welp someone asked earlier that I do a minimal test -- so I just cut out EVERYTHING -- the voxel terrain, the hud, etc... nothing now but the mousepick code and the line it draws -- still doesn't work even if its the only thing being drawn

thats weird -- in the shader asm, its doing dcl_input v0.xyz which is correct... I'm passing in a Vector3 position... the first 2 lines of code in the vertex shader convert that to a local float4 names pos and set pos.w = 0... but I'm not seeing that in the shader asm.. instead its accessing v0.xyzx as the vertex position

we just converted a number of our shaders to take vector3 positions and they are all working without the jumping through hoops to get w set to zero but I thought it might be having an impact on the matrix multiply to get screen coords

@Ascendion am I being summoned?

It's amazing to see my own game idea being put together in to a game

morning all

@Lasse awesome @Lasse :)

:)

mornin

gawd ... brb meeting

@Ascendion that raycasting still being a bitch ?

Some people just get this stuff :( depressing

This still makes no sense to me lol

Don't suppose anyone has the knowhow to walk me through the seudo C# for DC ?

I read the original paper on it and that just blew me away too ... #confused

good morning

the face avatar generator thing now outputs the stopping criterion in the image title

@Jon eh ?

WII has some messed up stuff lol

the graphic style creeps me out in the same way that clowns are creepy

oh it can get much worse than that^^

i don't doubt that

nintendo have some messed up minds

but they have mario kart!

meh ... but they do have mario which is awesome <3

I remember being addicted to super mario world on the super nintendo

i loved that game

me too, but I had to visit a friend to play super mario on the NES. but I had a game boy, that was awesome as well

hey @Tyyppi_77

he?

@Tyyppi_77 the GLUint texture is OpenGL texture

I'd recommend you do some basic stuff before going deferred

have you done any 3d stuff?

allright

forward renderer

@Tyyppi_77 awesome :)

I wish elevators had undo buttons

that awkward moment when you fart in an elevator -> undo -> nobody knows

@Christoph then dont fart in elevators

@Nick sometimes that's not an option!

it's also a two-step process: first you fart, and then others take notice. after the first undo you have still farted, but nobody knows that any more. win-win

so our golf game is fucked on iOS 8. apparently they made some deep changes that are affecting it.

@Tyyppi_77 whats that C?

looks like C to me, or one of the variants

@Tyyppi_77 you do not

SDL_GL_CreateCOntext probably returns a refernce already

SDL_GLContext context = SDL_GL_CreateContext(m_Window);

I would expect that's what you want

If you could you would be taking a pointer to a temporary variable that is out of context and will immediately be overriden.

well what exactly does SDL_GL_CreateContext return?

ah ok

@Tyyppi_77 Trolls would be correct, that way you have a pointer that points to a thing that actually exists

yup, you need to have an object, and once you have that you can create a pointer to it

@Christoph SDL_GLContext apparently, can't find what that is but I'm guessing it is a RAII thing

wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_GL_CreateContext

right in their example code is the line I showed

I think SDL_GL_Context is a type that's defined as a pointer

so it's returning a pointer, not an object

So in further code, myIntPtrs will look like objects and not pointers since the * is hidden in the typedef

Or it's an opaque type, there's no documentation about it

yeah wtf on that no documentation about

no matter what exactly the returned type is, or is defined as, if it's neither a reference nor a pointer it must be created in the scope where it is needed

In any case, all the arguments that use it take a copy of it, so just store it as a copy and ignore the pointer

Just because a language has a feature doesn't mean you have to use it :) - Passing by copy apparently works fine in this case, and how often are you going to do stuff with the opengl context anyway?

@JohnMcDonald But does it do all things?

Booring

Hell no, reading is awesome!

Though not school reading generally

Playstation now will be streaming Ultra Street Fighter IV. So add control sending latency, and video-returning latency to the HDTV latency and multiplayer network latency.

Actually, I guess the multiplayer network latency is then duplicated by the video-return

so that part is redundant

I guess what we get is more latency between entering a command and seeing the result.

I've not used it but based on the pricing alone I'm not a fan of Playstation's streaming service

what's the pricing?

Usually somewhere between $3-$5 for 4 hours

And then it tiers up from there...

I want to say $20 for 30 days or something... I'd have to double check

ouch

well

I guess that's similar to movie rentals

so I guess that's not too bad

Movie rentals I get 24 hours =/

but you only spend 2 hours actually watching it

You have somewhat of a point

but I can see your perspective :)

I don't know for certain but I'm guessing when I pay for 4 hours I don't get to use that whenever I want... I believe its over 4 hours from the first time you load the game up or something

If I was actually paying per hour I played I could probably get on board with that

good morning GDSE

Yo

I'd say you're right about that 4 hours from time of turning it on

Hell... give me a monthly sub

Ugh for some reason this video really infuriates me. youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w

This video, however, makes me very happy. youtube.com/watch?v=fmI_Ndrxy14

I like the first video

A monthly sub with a usage cap would be necessary I think. you're not just streaming data, but there has to be a CPU on their end running the game. But you could buy different subs with different usage amounts like you do with ISPs.

@SpartanDonut Heh. It's weird because I actually agree with some of the points she makes and I can't actually disagree with most other points. It just really feels like it completely misses the point.

@Lokkij Have you watched Anita Sarkeesian's videos?

@SpartanDonut Yep. While I'm not sure I agree with the concrete points she makes in them I very much agree with the general message.

I haven't personally (on my own time) made any sexist games. My stuff is almost always abstract since I'm a purist game designer.

@Lokkij I'm on the opposite end... I understand that some things she points out are not exactly great but I don't understand what her overall point is

I feel like, either way we lose.

Probably

Attempt to write stories fairly portraying women - they're just pretending to be men

But yeah I liked the new video because a feminist told me I didn't actually have to care so much about what Anita was saying

I feel like Anita could have focused on far more significant aspects of sexism in video games than simple story tropes

anyone have a recommendation for RDP client for ipad... MS RD Connect keeps crashing

how sure are you?

Anita's videos feel like she's just gone to the TV tropes articles for various tropes about women that she doesn't agree with. Then she uses large brush strokes to paint them as negatively as possible - ofc I'm a male so I don't see a problem with the princess or damsel in distress tropes | they've been tropes forever.

My wife is a female... I made her watch the first video and all she could say was "who cares?"

She didn't get it and couldn't relate at all

@Lokkij That warriors video is awesome

The whole sexism in games thing is very confusing to me. Mostly it comes down to not being able to put my feelings into words. But in the end, I am male and not really affected by it so I try not to think to much about it.

@Noctrine Yep! I love how they got Imagine Dragons to do a song for them

@Lokkij That's just your privilege that.

@Noctrine My English skills are failing me. What exactly do you mean by that?

Sarcasm :\

Ah damn. Still don't get it but whatever. ;)

Essentially Male Privilege. You aren't affected and can just let it go.

I get the ultimate concern, these women want to see themselves more represented in the media that they consume. I'm African American, so I know the feeling. In my case though, my reaction to not having a lot of stories with characters that I could relate to - is to create more stories with characters I can relate to.

Kung Fu Panda had a good one. The Tiger ninja. You had no idea she was a woman (unless you were really sharp and caught "Tigress" instead of "Tigris" like I did) until she spoke for the first time. Then I said (and so did my wife) "Oh, she's a woman."

just saw that last night. good movie

Of course, there is a counter to that in. It's really hard to get publishers / whatever to consider their titles with the characters that they could relate to. But that's the market, people want to buy the things that they want to buy. I feel like they understand that, and the videos really exist for pushing cultural feelings so that more people will buy the things that push boundaries / alter conventions by affecting guilt.

@Noctrine would it have at all been possible for Anita to have said that somewhere as opposed to sending the message that the trope itself is horrible and shouldn't exist. :(

I can also (kind of) relate, because I'm gay. I've never had any problem with not having characters to which I can relate though. I am very happy whenever another gay character appears in a game though (which happened exactly once so far), so I get the point.

Being a white straight male... I honestly don't think I really "relate" with characters in games

I relate somewhat to personalities and decisions characters will make... but ethnicity, gender, etc. really has nothing to do with it

ethnicity and gender and all kinds of other things influence character.

Hmm that's actually pretty interesting. I guess it's easier to relate to a character when it shares something special with you.

Which makes sense.

My writing is also not just video games though :\ - I do short films (and eventually feature films) also.

@Lokkij idk... in storytelling im more fond of personality and character development

When everything is relatable nothing is.

If I wanted to act growing up, there were no roles at all. Unless Will Smith / Denzel Washington a few others.

@Noctrine valid point but only to some extent I think.

@SpartanDonut Definitely only to some extent, but it still does. I think that a position such as yours comes from a lot of media already being targeted loosely for you.

If what I saw was already mostly similar to me, then the similarities matter a lot less and the deeper differences matter a lot more.

@Joe Of course, that's pretty important. If a gay character appears though, I can immediately relate to him, where it would take a while for me to relate to a 'normal' character.

^~

i guess that makes sense.. im wondering if im biased now

You are. Bias is not bad.

All of us have biases oriented towards what we like, and around how we've developed. That's what makes us unique interesting individuals.

because i fit the stereotypical straight white male who happens to have been the default generic protagonist for games throughout my childhood

games i loved chrono trigger... ff7... * many many more * same guy

@Noctrine I would believe this

I also hate the suggestion that a lot of those type of videos make. "Why can't you make character X <insert minority type here>"

That is the laziest. It also just happened with Thor :(

Where Marvel made the point. "This isn't Lady Thor, Thorita, etc etc, it's Thor"

what's going on with Thor/Thorita?

Thor's a woman now.

interesting

Yep. Thor did whatever and is no longer worthy of holding his hammer. A woman stepped up who was worthy and gained all the powers of Thor. At least, that's how the story line sounds without all the "This is Thor, not someone else" type of stuff in media.

:)

thats how i became Joe... some developer before me was really F-ing up lately... and i ended up to be in the right place at the right time and passed the many trials put before me by the elders of the internet

thats one way... if i like something that much i usually just get the tshirt though

@Joe lol

damn my network drive is intercepting my RDP even with the port forwarding... whats happening

@Wardy neck tat is sort of high on the extreme things scale for me

yeh i would agree

pretty dump thing to do ... but hey some people seem to lack common sense

@SpartanDonut archeage 4 hour login que last night... kind of has me scrambling for a way to que up before i leave work...

TeamViewer

i had setup rdp last night... my first time ever, worked in network - assumed that it would work out of network

that is false

teamviewer is magic

but it doesnt help me today without access to my home machine...

Sure doesn't

i will however check it out

If your home network isn't configured properly unfortunately you are probably out of luck for today regardless

so i thought it was i have port forwarding setup and rdp enabled on that machine... but im no networking guy, and it appears my network drive is receiving the connection cause im getting a Western digital certificate

I don't even know what that means lol

in all likelyhood i got something wrong

just cant figure out what, because local in-network RDP worked last night when i tested it...

in network RDP is as easy as turning it on in your computer settings

Not really a networking issue at that point

@SpartanDonut so i was accessing the machine via external ip address... but i can honestly say i dont full understand the process

That's a bit better of a test yeah

Interesting

well i was on network doing that

and my it buddy is saying the router might have been too smart for itself... but i cant know if to take that at face value or what

Anyone here familiar with libgdx?

@AttackingHobo what is this...

@Joe some kind of metal machining tool cutting metal

on a random note, i started looking up nearby welding classes and metal-working / safety courses for some prelim research and because it seems totally cool

i was under the impression this was something i could find at like a community college... but havent turned up anything yet

there was a internship program with the local union... but thats a little deeper than i had planned to go

@Joe why not do something like that

i imagine i could, but it was 8 months of training and appears to be specifically for people who they would immediately employ provided you passed the test

my end goal would be to give this a try, learn the safety so i dont melt my hands off. and maybe at best strive to make 1 horseshoe to get a feel for the actual legit process.. and it just seems soo damn cool

haha