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Joe
4:00 PM
and for that purpose 8 months of training seems like a large investment
 
Jon
what is the gas pedal called in a tesla?
 
Same thing its called in all cars. Accelerator
pedal
Tesla has a really cool driving system
for the most part you don't need to use the brake pedal at all
The regenerative breaking is all done on the right pedal
 
Debating if I want to release a little shooter I made for fun at the play store or if itll be one stared to oblivion
 
if you let off the accelerator it will regenerative break. and if you leave it at a certain spot it will coast. You can see a graph of your energy use on the main screen
@Nick is it fun?
 
@AttackingHobo Uhh no idea :p ... have played a bit when I am bored and have my phone with me ... but no idea if its fun for others (for me, its my game its obviously fun)
 
4:06 PM
record some gameplay take some screenshots
graphics really don't matter if the game is alright
This is a super small simple game I released a while ago for free to test out the store.
 
@AttackingHobo For now graphics are the worst thing youll ever see until i find a nice space shooter graphics kit
 
@AttackingHobo I mean seriously this is the spaceship sprite:
... yea you get my point :p
 
Jon
looks like a drawing made with smurf poop
 
Graphics: 0 ... until I spice them up a bit
@Jon I made it in GIMP in 10 secs heh
 
Jon
4:09 PM
you can't really make it any worse
i guess it could be a swastika
 
@Jon Well thats what free graphics websites are for :)
 
Jon
anyone here actually use their MSDN subscription?
 
@Nick work on your art man
Doesn't have to be high detail or even amazing. just not crap
 
@AttackingHobo Everyone who has ever met me knows that if theres one thing I can do is make graphics
 
a triangle is better than that
 
Jon
4:14 PM
^
 
use a program with a grid and turn on snapping
 
@AttackingHobo Meh just wanted something to have an obvious front and the rest can be replaced when the code is in place
 
use the line tools and make a few super basic shapes
 
Jon
 
IDK man you are purposly spending more time making shitty art
just use super clean simplistic shit
 
4:15 PM
@AttackingHobo spending more time how? I just wanted a sprite to test the code then I can replace it with a better one
 
drawing that shitty arrow took more time and effort than making a triangle
 
Jon
lol
i doubted
 
Oh and if you think thats bad you shouldnt see the UI
 
game I released on the android store
 
Jon
heh
i have a game I didn't release yet
nonogramatron
 
4:17 PM
There is literally 4 graphic objects in that screenshot
 
Jon
LOL
i can do it with 0
 
the moving block. the background. level 4 text, and score text
err well there are 0
but 4 things being drawn to the screen
 
Jon
ah
 
background is drawn to when user clicks
so all the blocks and the bg are actually just one bitmap
and yeah its all procedural, no actual graphics
actually. I might have used flash for the layout. I forget though
so yeah @Nick just because you are not extremely artistically inclined, doesn't mean you need to make crap looking art
 
Jon
anyone ever play below the root?
 
4:19 PM
nope
 
Jon
that was a ridiculous game
I tried to figure it out when I was a kid
I watched a playthrough, the puzzles, lol
i would of never known
 
ha
Some puzzle games are so shitty
 
Jon
 
oh, Sony - "“I think that hardware-wise, the market has plateaued a bit,” he reveals."
Do you even fucking know about VR sony?
I mean you guys are making a headset
and you obviously can see Samsung releasing the Note4 with galaxy gear
Also where are my 120hz screens
 
@Jon yeah why?
 
Jon
4:23 PM
because the game was ridiculously hard
 
Trying out random games ideas I have ... lets see which one works out
 
I get mine through work and its how I get all my development tools, OS's etc. Even comes with $100/month for Azure
I wasn't responding to your game comment :P
 
Jon
do you download the software on your home pc?
 
If I had to I would... but I generally work inside VMs and whatnot since I'm primarily on server OS's
But I own all the software I need for personal use
So if I end up doing some work on my home PC I generally just use my personal copy
Are you concerned about the licensing aspects of it or whats the actual question you're having?
 
Jon
yeah licensing
 
4:31 PM
woah
 
Jon
that must of taken a lot of time
 
4:48 PM
@Noctrine you are my only hope! How do I use Vuforia without it messing up?
 
I have to go back into it to answer that question :( Unfortunately I'm in the middle of some high stakes typing.
 
I think I asked my question too politely in their forum. Maybe I should make a new account and completely bash the program in order to bait people into defending it and explaining how to use it.
@Noctrine I tried the user image project and it worked fine. But thats not my end goal
@Noctrine alight get back to your Death typing.
 
Obviously he's just playing TypeRacer
 
@SpartanDonut Data Entry :( - or really adding content to a wordpress site based on a theme.
 
I used to prefer late night gamedev... now I prefer noon gamedev o.0
 
4:52 PM
Early morning gamedev FTW!
 
I'm most productive between the hours of 3am and 11am
 
Late Night / Early Morning for me. I'm most productive in general after 11 - unfortunately I can't get an adjustment to standard working hours.
 
Dat midnight flow though.
 
@MickLH My laziness wont allow me that :p
 
Jon
i like gamedev all the time
sometimes I get up at 3am
 
4:52 PM
Some days more like 8pm to 4am
Depends really
 
Jon
because i woke up thinking about how to solve a problem
 
@Jon good man!
 
@Jon ha
@Jon Love having answers to hard problems solved by my subconcious
taking a shower, and BAM fully formed solution to hard problem
 
Jon
yeah, if you think hard enough about something, lol it will come to you
 
What the hell... my mouse is sometimes sending Released and then Press events when holding the button down
 
4:54 PM
@Nick Entirely your fault for buying a shitty mouse.
 
@AttackingHobo I dont even know its its a mouse issue ... could be linux :p
@AttackingHobo tho it is a cheap mouse... came with a 20 euro keyboard :p
 
usually is the mouse button itself
 
And sometimes I have to press it twice to actually register a click... time for a new mouse I recon
 
@AttackingHobo Not gonna order a mouse from amazon ...
 
4:56 PM
Thats what I got. Feels very nice
@Nick why not?
 
@AttackingHobo 14 euros for shipping + 2 books I ordered have already taken 2 weeks with the 8 day delivery option
 
@Nick No lol
 
oooh ok. yeah if you are not in America IDK about amazon
and if they are taking too long complain and they will usually try to make it right
 
I mean, you can trick yourself into thinking that's reasonable, but it's only wasting your own time if you're actually trying to solve it
 
@AttackingHobo it says its scheduled to deliver today but the tracker still says In Transit
There found a question with my issue...
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Q: Mouse not working correctly

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4:59 PM
Wordpress: Where you will spend 40 hours doing a thing that would otherwise only take 2.
 
Joe
@Noctrine @SpartanDonut I am most productive from 9-11pm with no distractions... but usually that is the time the cat is the most distracting
 
Jon
Wordpress , where you are not quite sure what you are doing
 
o.0 I connected in a USB at the first try
 
@Noctrine lol i know right ... i tested this the other day ... i built a complete site from scratch in about 3 hours
wordpress ... 5 days later im trying to get the same result
lol
 
^
I'm literally saving someone from that right now for cash
 
5:06 PM
I plug in USB first try every time
 
They had wordpress, hated it so much they got some custom CMS built in-house. Their productivity skyrocketed so fast without WP in the way, they want to invest more in the custom CMS route
So I get to make another CMS :D
 
Nice
 
@MickLH /me uses wordpress for his website
 
@Nick if you look at the USB plug you can see there is a top and a bottom.
 
I wish they let me make them a CMS first :(
 
5:07 PM
@AttackingHobo I couldnt tho, it was at the back of my computer and was dark
 
Currently working with an off the shelf theme.
 
@Nick I think wordpress is great if you want exactly wordpress
But it's like some sort of gamma-curved explosion of FUCK the further away you get from it's intended core functionality
 
@MickLH I just want a website without goind through the HTML/CSS/JS hell
 
The plugin for system for wordpress is actually fairly well designed / clever as well. The problem is all the shitty plugins that break everything as soon as you try to install more than one of them
SharePoint is still my favorite CMS ;)
 
If you look at the plug on the cable you can see it. If its in the back of a computer the USB UP port has the same normal vector as the motherboard surface
 
5:11 PM
@MickLH yeh i have a pretty good web stack for building just about any application
 
 
works on generics
 
Ordering from amazon... I dont see this arriving this week :p
 
so i just define some pocos then the custom stuff lol
 
@Nick complain to them
 
5:12 PM
@Nick did you check the tracking id against the shipping carrier?
 
@SpartanDonut nope just from the amazon tracking
 
You should do that
 
just did, says the same as amazon "Exported i-Parcel and in transit to country of destination"
 
Does it have the same estimated delivery date?
In general the estimated delivery date is significantly more trustworthy than the rest of the details in the tracking information
At least that's been my experience
 
@SpartanDonut no estimated delivery mentioned on iparcels tracking
Seriously I have ordered from UK to Greece and it has been in transit for almost a week
 
5:18 PM
Well technically it's only been shipping for 5 business days at this point
3 to go
Shipping time does not include processing time up until the point it ships unfortunately
 
amazon prime is kinda nice but it gets annoying how not everything is covered by it
 
@SpartanDonut no it was exported at the 12th ... so it has been in delivery for 5 buisiness days
 
@Nick tomato potato
When I buy stuff off Amazon I generally attempt to buy stuff FROM Amazon because 1) they do process it right away if its in stock and 2) Amazon prime free 2 day shipping and dirty cheap one day shipping
 
@SpartanDonut wat
@SpartanDonut not from the UK I dont get free shipping :(
 
@Nick The phrase is "Tomato, Tomahto" to show that there are multiple ways to say the same thing... Tomato potato is my internet version on that because pronunciation doesn't come across well or easily through text
But basically... you said the same thing I said with different words
 
5:21 PM
I used to never buy off amazon, but then I was like damn, it's the future, I gotta start buying shit on amazon
 
@MickLH This is actually the first time I ordered from Amazon... not impressed so far
 
I used to buy off amazon a lot, but then I was like damn, it's the future, I gotta start pirating this shit.
 
wat how do you even
 
@Nick but did you order from Amazon or some Joe Schmoe who sells through Amazon at a lower price than Amazon?
 
@IcyDefiance I don't have a good enough 3D printer ;(
 
5:22 PM
most of the things I've used amazon for have been textbooks
 
Ordering from Joe Schmoe through Amazon is as reliable as buying off ebay
 
@SpartanDonut you can see what I ordered from the pic above
 
@Nick No I can't
It doesn't tell me who you bought it from
 
@IcyDefiance Yeah I don't think I even have access to a printer with enough resolution to print paper well
 
-.-'
 
Jon
5:23 PM
finding stupid little errors in my code.... i think i'm starting to get old
 
@IcyDefiance hehehe
 
I'm retarded
It does say who its from
what is S.a.r.L.
 
@SpartanDonut Lol
 
@Jon I figured those would go away when I got older...
 
Oh shit, I just realized it's my birthday :)
 
Jon
5:24 PM
just these stupid things ya know..
like.. instead of using the Top value, I used the Y value
 
@MickLH HAPPY BIRTHDAY
I swear it was your birthday like a month ago
 
@MickLH sings HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO Yo0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0U!
 
@SpartanDonut Lol well I'm not sure what happened but today is my actual birthday :P
 
I'm probably thinking of someone else. TIME TO CELEBRATE WITH LUNCH
 
@SpartanDonut fridge is empty :(
 
5:26 PM
I had an epic birthday party at like 1AM getting higher than fuck and polishing like 25 pounds of copper
 
lol my dad forgets his birthday almost every year. we usually bring pies to his workplace on his lunchbreak and share them with everyone, and almost every year it surprises him.
the people he works with always remember, but we made them swear to not say anything until the pies show up
 
Lol I always forget, but facebook reminds me the day before by manipulating my friends into spamming me
 
Joe
for me after about 25 theres was moment when happy birthday became a translation for "WTF did i do with my life last year"... after that its easy to forget
 
I'm 21 and I've been thinking that way for a few years already
although it's more like "don't give a shit, stop paying attention to me"
 
Lol I'm straight up inverse of that pattern
By the end of the day, if I don't have a nice big page of code, I start wondering what the fuck I did accomplish
But now that it's my birthday and I'm quantum "older", I said mother-fuck working I'm just gonna fuck off all day
I've been drunk enough to cause disciplinary action against my stack profile
I want to see today, if that can happen with "high enough" too
 
5:32 PM
I wonder if I can reject doing work.
 
lol mick, you get drunk and get disciplinary action. this guy gets drunk and gains 100k internet points. reddit.com/r/drunk/comments/2gjf7u/im_drunk_ama
 
oh waaaaah
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@MickLH What area of Cali you at?
 
@AttackingHobo near sac
@IcyDefiance lol that's not drunk, he's still coherent enough to process the concept that he can boost his ego by starting an ama
 
"Not everyone has a buddy or roommate in same program as you like Jessica Mah, Mark Hughes, Bill Gates."
wat
 
5:37 PM
@MickLH ah. Im down between LA and sandiego
@Noctrine that pareidoloop is open source, wonder how it could be tweaked to make it better...
 
better facial recognition
 
maybe fuzzy triangles might make it look nicer
 
man i wish people wouldn't answer such obviously off-topic questions like that
if it didn't cost me rep, I'd downvote those
someone fucking upvoted that question
what the hell. it's obviously off-topic
 
I like the sharpness
 
"YOU know google has users who can damage your computer. This site provides a safehaven for beginners and experts."
hahahah
 
5:44 PM
"Make this website", "You can't use custom CSS"
:|
 
hahahahaha
wtf is that
 
Hey does anyone have any highly restricted long-trained thoughts they might ask me to go on with them today?
 
@MickLH err what?
 
I need to figure out how to also tie timestep of a game in line with a musical beat. So that I can trigger animations and actions on the beat, while still allowing the user to move around freely.
 
I think you're gonna have to add some NLP features
like build an anchor to tell them when they have some fixed amount of time, like a countdown over a few steps starting from maybe 200ms away, perhaps by flashing some icon sequence in their peripheral vision
so that way, you can help tune the user onto the beat, so you don't have to delay their actions much
 
5:49 PM
@Almo that is an impressive comment thread
@Noctrine did my brother try to recruit your for his game? lol
 
@SpartanDonut No. A music producer I'm friends with and I were talking about things for the Wii U.
 
Well I was joking but that sounds interesting at least
 
@SpartanDonut hahah yeah it's pretty amazing.
 
@MickLH Would that also allow me to keep the gameplay paced to the music?
 
Let's just say I wasn't feeling like remaking Rock Band for an RPG and talked him into something more like Legend of Dragoon
 
5:51 PM
@Noctrine It's more assuming you've already paced the gameplay to the music, and are trying to pace the user to the gameplay/music now too
 
We're loosely basing worlds / missions on pieces that would be composed for the game.
 
Can you get the soundtracks in procedural form?
 
Yeah, the soundtrack is being created explicitly for it.
 
@Noctrine maybe have the players attacks stronger when they time it right
make a positive feedback loop through that
 
I need to play Crypt of the Necrodancer
 
5:53 PM
don't force them to time it right, but make things look cooler and make them more powerful if they get the beats right
 
@AttackingHobo Legend of the Dragoon :o
@MickLH My concern with that is in some of the little things, like when a player is walking - the sound of their footsteps should add to the composition.
 
@Noctrine Maybe you could make a function that operates on divisions of the highest tempo in the song, and you can give it a target time and it gives you back the closest time that fits in the song
then use that to time your footstep loops and other subtle game functions
 
@Noctrine sounds like Chroma, from Harmonix. A "Music FPS"
 
@MickLH oooo.
 
5:55 PM
@AttackingHobo Nope.
 
Might be useful to give the function an "only correct up" and an "only correct down" mode for holding timing guarantees
 
@Almo Possibly, haven't looked at it.
 
Pretty fun little game
 
Bit Trip runner forces the gameplay to be in rhythm
continuous movement helps cater that though
If your tempo is fast enough it might be fine to just not start an animation until the start of the beat
 
@Almo Similar in concept to Chroma - very different end execution though. I'd had an idea at one point that was a lot like Chroma -at least visually / soundtrackwise - though, except I was using light -
 
5:57 PM
But if you are constant changing direction, stopping, applying inputs, etc. the lag might get annoying after a while
 
:)
 
@SpartanDonut that's what the NLP is for
 
@MickLH Gonna try that.
 
I didn't google NLP xD
runs off to google
 
Basically, You setup an anchor in the users mind connected to "Make my next move now!" with a long enough predelay to let a human actually respond in time
And just kinda nudge them into tempo, so that they aren't annoyed by the fact that their also being forced into tempo
 
5:59 PM
Neuro Linguistic Programming. One of the BS self-help things.
 
ooooooooooooo
Yeah I approve of this lol
It could certainly help
 
Jon
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@Jon fucking amazing
 
You could also tween your animations into the beat
 
yesh, I'm trying to not star that gif
 
6:01 PM
I'll allow it. It's out of context funny and not just another meme
Star Police will look away... this time
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@SpartanDonut I agree with this, that's probably one of the most efficient uses of the "snap to grid" type of strategy
Ideally, have a half-beat tolerance so that if the user is slightly off beat, there is zero extra lag, and the animation is just played at 101% speed maybe
since it would start close enough to call "on beat", and would only get more perfectly in time until the end when it's exact
Anyways, lol, this topic was totally not what I meant, but it was so interesting I couldn't resist sharing some thoughts
 
It's like the windshield wipers when they finally get on beat with the radio... except then the car would automatically adjust the wiper speed to stay on beat? :P
 
I just wanted to make sure nobody had one of those rhetorical abstract long-trained thoughts that take 20 minutes to explain the premise, because I can barely handle that shit with my 5 second attention span
So over the period of the next hour or two, those 5 seconds will come down to about 2 seconds
 
Anyone who is serious about their game has a sales pitch that should only take a few minutes to explain but preferably less than one minute.
Maybe serious isn't the right word
 
Joe
"elevator pitch"
if notch stepped into the elevator you were riding in... you have 30 seconds to pitch your game to him
go
 
6:16 PM
I'd rather just shake his hand lol
 
I'd just stand there until the elevator got to my floor and the door opened, then I'd walk out
 
I would say very quietly "notch notch notch notch notch notch notch notch" while conspicuously ignoring his presence.
 
I probably wouldn't know it was him. If he tried to chat me up I'd probably think he was weird and make fun of him after we parted ways.
 
lol you're right, I have no idea what notch looks like
 
@SpartanDonut best answer
@Noctrine hey also, if there are vocals or something that's really hard to do procedurally, there are always libraries like SoundTouch so time scaling without pitch shifting in realtime is actually reasonable these days
 
6:22 PM
Now that he's sold Mojang to Microsoft I'm going to have to pitch game ideas to any bearded man that walks into the same elevator as me wearing a fez hat
(Don't correct me, it's a bad joke)
 
@MickLH Unlikely voices. Probably just like N64 style platformer vocal noises as text pops up.
 
oh and if you need synth code, you know what I specialize in ;)
 
:)
 
Mick plays a mean banjo. Best friends with Steve Martin if I recall.
 
anyone by any chance want The Raven - Legacy of a Master Thief? I'm gifted with 75% off coupon!
 
6:27 PM
@Ali.S Thanks for the offer, but it doesn't look like its for me.
 
@Noctrine i knew a guy who worked on Banjo Kazooie. said the jibber jabber actually took them a long time to get right.
 
@Ali.S just in case its a language thing and not a typo, "by any chance" would be what you are looking for
 
that was a typo ...
 
I thought it might be but being you I cared to point it out
 
Also said originally it was just Banjo. then one of the local weirdoes on the team came in with a drawing of Kazooie who lived in Banjo's backpack. They thought it was nuts, but it ended up going into the game.
 
6:28 PM
@Almo best jibber jabber of any game ever
 
And the guy who wrote that game's awesome music was really into super heavy metal.
Agreed, Todders. Best I've heard, anyway.
 
@SpartanDonut tnx :D
 
I also liked how, in general, that game hid most things in plain sight.
I gave up around the Rust Bucket as it started getting frustrating.
 
I bought the Last Tinker for PS4... need to find some time to play it
 
but I got 100% honeycombs up unitl that point.
i'll be getting my PS4 once Amplitude comes out.
had no plans to get one otherwise
 
6:30 PM
I will definitely be getting Amplitude
 
fuck yeah man
Amplitude was probably the best single-player experience on PS2 (in my opinion)
 
Rock Band Blitz just wasn't the same :(
 
nope
nice try though
I actually earned the Halo in Amplitude
completed the whole thing on Insane. that took some work
was stuck on fucking Slipknot for 2 weeks.
 
I only played the demo at Walmart but it was the funnest demo at Walmart ever.
 
that drummer is a maniac.
 
6:31 PM
That and Parappa the Rapper
 
Parappa was fun
 
French the fries!
 
I also did Um Jammer Lammy (which was I think the first of that kind of music game i played)
Dojo, Casino. It's all in the mind!
Kick, punch, y'all remember! Chop Chop back again, yes forever!
Had a guitar player sneer at me and my wife for playing it. "Play a real instrument" We made her play it. She said it was really fun. :)
Parappa sounded funnier when you made mistakes though
 
Oh hey... Theatrhythm for 3DS is out now... I should get that.
 
@Almo I'm waiting for that :(, my dream is to go to the kids section - get a first act guitar and pwn them.
Hrm
Generating all these faces, I should turn on autosave
 
Joe
6:47 PM
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@Joe great vid
 
Joe
the whole series is very good
looks like they have hundreds
 
Extra Credits is solid. I should give them more of my time but I always seem to forget until someone mentions them again.
 
They have some good vids, but that one is just great
 
Pip
ey
 

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