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4:02 PM
@Zane yes. It got dusted :-).
 
Indeed.
 
@Marian No wonder if he gets +5-1 in this question and Gordon's (which provides a useful index suggestion) gets only +1 (and a downvote): stackoverflow.com/questions/16610647/…
 
@Marian nothing on this site bugs me more than someone saying hurry up guys my job is riding on you solving my problems for me.
 
JNK
@Zane yeah that is super annoying
 
@ypercube "For faster performance, create a foreign key constraint on... " from his answer. ROFL!
 
4:07 PM
In SQL Server, an explicit foreign key can help the optimizer make better decisions. But it really only helps if there are supported indexes on both sides. No idea what wonkyMySQL does though.
 
@JNK The comment I always want to post is "get your resume ready"
 
wonky(TM) creates an index when an FK is created (if there isn't already one), so the FK is enforced.
But in the specific query, compound index is more efficient.
And simply stating that FKs improve performance, is misleading. They may do but only because of the indexes dded.
 
someone doesn't like any of these answers
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Q: Alternative to GROUP BY to consolidate repeating values in single column

rocklandcitizenI'm using DB2 which apparently doesn't let you use the GROUP BY clause when it's returning more than one column. I have records that have repeating values for ID and name, for example: EmpID | - name - | code ___________________________________ 111111 | Williams | 1 --------...

 
@AaronBertrand yes, I get that. But his wording is just funny. At least for my basic understanding.
 
That's PM-771 revenge down-voting.
 
4:10 PM
@bluefeet I upped yours, but dv-ed JW.
it's a useless duplicate
 
@Marian well then maybe he DVed mine
 
@bluefeet Does DB2 let you SELECT * and then GROUP BY?
 
@bluefeet I'll comment, so he knows!
 
@Zane doesn't sound like it based on the OP
 
The answer is correct technically, but also technically it's a duplicate. It doesn't bring anything new/better than the other answer. — Marian 1 min ago
 
4:13 PM
@AaronBertrand Is it? He deleted his answer 40 mins ago. Maybe it is from JW (or followers)
 
@ypercube well I said that before I realized the dv on JW's answer was you. Initially it looked like both answers got one down-vote, which without other information smells like payback.
 
@AaronBertrand I did NOT downvote this JW answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/16612213/…
 
Today I discovered management at a certain offshore company are trying to use cyclomatic complexity on a T-SQL code base. I suggested the developer ask management to find some examples of real projects where they have measured a T-SQL code base with an average v of 10.
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@AaronBertrand @Marian dved the other answer
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells cyclomatic ?
 
4:16 PM
@bluefeet @ypercube yes, yes, I clicked reply and the chat window scrolled so I replied to the wrong post, sorry.
 
@bluefeet guilty! sorry BF :). Hopefully he'll retract the dv.
 
Backpfeifengesicht German – A face badly in need of a fist
 
@Marian no biggie
 
@ypercube It's a software metric based on the number of different execution paths in a code module. Works fine for procedural code in its way. You can use it to do things like estimate the number of test cases needed for a code base.
 
@ypercube so you can now :-).
 
4:18 PM
you can downvote all you want anyway. — JW 웃 1 min ago
Huh?
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells you make me feel very ignorant sometimes :)
 
Well, or you could delete the duplicate, or improve it so it adds something. shrugAaron Bertrand 16 secs ago
 
@JackDouglas I dimly remember covering it in a second or third year software engineering paper. Never actually used it in practice.
 
@Zane have you read his profile page?
 
If you try to express the logic of even a fairly small SQL statement as if it was procedural you get to quite large values quickly. My developer is being told his average cyclomatic complexity should be 10 by somebody who is used to doing this sort of thing on .net or Java code.
The usual fixes for high complexity metrics are - of course - to break the code down into more granular functions. On SQL ... what could possibly go wrong?
Oh well. The @COTW theory of contracting still stands. If you have to work with idiots you might as well get paid for it.
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4:25 PM
@Zane Since they insisted, I did
 
@bluefeet doing that now.
@bluefeet holy shit. I keep expecting this to finish with a link to his emo band's website.
You don't need to know me. I'm sure you won't get interested.
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells oh, that's bonkers
 
@bluefeet he must just be a barrel of laughs.
 
A duplicate answer is just noise, this has nothing to do with discrimination. Etiquette suggests that a duplicate or inferior answer, that doesn't add any new information, posted later, should be deleted. Why do you want to keep this redundant noise here? For 4 rep points? — Aaron Bertrand 13 secs ago
I don't think he's going to get it, though.
Why do people do this?
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Q: Trigger for updating total records on both insert and delete

Don't Panic AndyI'm writing a trigger to store the record count of one table as a column in another to speed up some reporting queries on a large db. Here's what I've got so far, it works fine on deletes but I also need to it work on inserts. Do I need to use a separate trigger? Also, is the use of the cursor ...

 
4:45 PM
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells do you know anything about the new Intel SSDs coming out in a few weeks?
 
@JackDouglas Which ones?
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells I'm told they are calls S3500s
but they ain't showing up on Google yet
basically a lower endurance DC S3700
about £1/Gb
same guaranteed consistency
 
@JackDouglas So, a bit downmarket of the S3700.
Hadn't heard about them.
 
I guess I'll have to wait until they are released—I want to know how much lower the endurance is
 
I sort of contemplated a S3700 for my computer but I'll see how the 320 I've got in it now pans out.
@JackDouglas Are you still thinking about disks for your blade server?
 
4:49 PM
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells yes
 
@JackDouglas How big do you need them?
 
@AaronBertrand Not sure if you saw jw's comment before deleting his answer
 
Some people take StackOverflow way, way, way too seriously.
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells bigger than I can get them unfortunately
I can just about get away with 800s
 
@JackDouglas S3700s come in 800GB flavours, but you'd be up for about £3,000 a pair.
Although that's quite a bit cheaper than most other enterprise SSDs in that size range.
 
4:57 PM
indeed
I probably don't need the super-high endurance but I do need the reliability and consistency, those are very nice drives for the price
I'm half hoping the S3500s will have a higher capacity point
(should be possible if they are less over-provisioned)
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells some of those are SLC
oh, wait a sec, I see the S3500
 
The Pro 1500 ones might also be worth looking at if they come in the right sizes.
 
@bluefeet I'm glad that for once he did the right thing. @Aaron thanks for the backup!
 
A 1.2 or 1.6TB S3500 would be an interesting product if they make such a thing.
 
@bluefeet what was the comment before deleting the answer.
 
> "posted later, should be deleted" -- I will always remember this. Always. In fact I don't even get reputation here. ohh sounds like am I repwhore as what others told me. And you also mean that this time I'm redundant here since I posted this answer 24 seconds than bluefeet. You are All always right. Anyway I will delete this lazy copy answer. Good night. – JW 웃 23 mins ago
 
how do you write a resignation letter to a high-stress manager who has a track record of guilt-tripping resigning employees?
 
@bluefeet Like I said before he must be a barrel of laughs.
 
5:21 PM
@swasheck politely :)
and then just suck it up and offer sympathy but no false hope ;)
 
yeah. that's the plan
 
@swasheck write on a piece of paper double what your new offer is and say that's what it will cost to keep me. :)
 
@Zane but that's not even worth it
 
@swasheck that may be true but I doubt he'd give you the offer so.
 
Then triple it
 
5:31 PM
it's not about the money ... it's about the opportunity ... to learn from a team that is more experienced than i am all by myself. more complexity ... more data ...
 
That may be but if you were to say that to him he would probably just respond with well it's been fun. have a good one.
 
yeah ... not really. not this guy
insane in the membrane
and yet i feel badly about leaving
 
@swasheck Tell him you don't see any opportunity comparable to this coming up in the forseeable future at your current workplace.
 
mostly because of the turnover
 
@swasheck You're kind of painting a picture here.
 
5:34 PM
@swasheck yeah, sure. But I hope there's some $ in it, too.
otherwise we can send some bugers gour way ;)
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells yes. he's not pleasant to work for. i think i have stockholm syndrome :)
 
@swasheck my last job was like that. I just walked into my bosses office and said hey I got a better offer I'll have a resignation letter by the end of the day. Let me know what you need done before I leave and I'll try to make it happen. Then walked out.
 
@Marian there is $$ in it
@Zane so you're saying that you're not relying on him for a reference in the future :)
 
@swasheck nah I could totally use vik as a reference.
 
@swasheck wow, there are 2 dollar signs involved
 
5:36 PM
My direct manage still calls me asking for help since they havn't found my replacement.
 
Dear [....]
I have accepted an offer of a job that offers appreciably better opportunities than I have available to me here. Please take this letter as [...] weeks notice of my resignation.

I wish you the best of luck in finding a good individual who fits well in the team to fill the role.

Yours,

Swasheck
 
@Zane well, everyone knows that you are irreplaceable
 
base_salary += 25000 ... bonus_structure += 15%
 
Please VtC dupe
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Q: My SQL Command to compare results is not working

Addie And-Micara Baker Dim constr2 As String = ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings("baminterchangerConnectionString").ConnectionString Dim con2 As New SqlConnection(constr2) Dim cmd2 As SqlCommand = New SqlCommand("UPDATE ([dbo].[imports] INNER JOIN [dbo].[jdsubs] ON [dbo].[imports]....

 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells thanks. that's roughly what i have
what's getting me is that 18 months ago we were a team of 14
 
5:37 PM
@swasheck Just be polite and don't bother to try explain your reasons. They don't matter.
 
now we're a team of 4 (-1) and i feel like i'm stranding him ... but he's made no efforts to backfill
 
@swasheck His problem.
Self-inflicted.
 
don't bother. listen to the wise one.
 
mmhmmm
that's probably sage advice, @Marian
@AaronBertrand voted
 
5:42 PM
@AaronBertrand cue necrorep
 
@swasheck Make that a question for The Workplace. You may get useful answers, and some rep :)
 
@ypercube The Workplace SE is useless. I cannot stand that place.
 
@ypercube eh. i can't wait for that. someone will have to read, get more info, then answer my question. ain't nobody got time for that!
 
@Zane what's the problem with it?
 
@swasheck Ok. There are related questions/answers: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1070/…
 
5:48 PM
All of the responses to question posted on here have bugged me.
 
@ypercube yeah ... i trawled through them earlier :)
so thanks
 
@JackDouglas I feel like most of the time the answer should be "be direct and honest with the person."
 
Ugh
i was trying another approach and think i got it. how does this look? UPDATE a SET a.AMIPartNumber =b.OEMPartNumber FROM imports as a INNER JOIN jdsubs as b ON a.OEMPartNumber = b.OEMPartNumber INNER JOIN amipartnumbers as c ON b.OEMPartNumber = a.OEMPartNumber — Addie And-Micara Baker 3 mins ago
 
@swasheck Sounds like stockholm syndrome
 
37 mins ago, by swasheck
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells yes. he's not pleasant to work for. i think i have stockholm syndrome :)
 
doh
 
JNK
@swasheck I had a similar thing at my last job
My POV is loyalty is earned, and it's the employers' responsibility to keep employees engaged, not the other way around
 
@JNK Loyalty and respect are something you earn.
 
JNK
6:14 PM
exactly
I got a major guilt trip when I went over my bosses head at my current company to do an internal transfer
 
man ... the problem is that i dont do well with guilt trips
we'll see how it goes
 
JNK
If you have to you can just say "I have to do what's best for myself and my career"
and keep saying it
 
that's the plan
 
JNK
I mean he can't stop you
you have all the power
bear that in mind too
 
i know ... conceptually i know all of this ...
 
JNK
6:17 PM
he has absolutely no power over you once you tell him
i got a guilt trip at my last move too, it sucks
that was a small family company and they didn't know I was looking to leave
 
doesn't make it easier to say ... even though i'm pretty sure it'll be better on the other side
 
JNK
but this was also a company that had fired people for posting their resumes so they can't expect honesty
 
@JNK nice
@AaronBertrand ... things with with the extended fam?
so the other buggaboo is that i have a dr. appt from for the next 2.5 hours and he's cutting out early and has been on conf. calls all morning.
 
JNK
Did you already accept?
I missed the earlier convo for another stupid broker error :)
 
yeah ... already accepted
 
JNK
6:21 PM
when do you start?
 
@swasheck yeah my sister felt it. Funny that the US and Canada don't agree on the magnitude. Didn't know that the Richter scale had a metric version.
 
no amount of $$ can keep me here
June 3 ... ish
 
JNK
oh then you have some time
 
@JNK well not really, that's two weeks from Monday
 
@AaronBertrand one-upsmanship extends even to measuring shakes, eh?
@AaronBertrand @JNK yeah ... may push it to June 10
 
JNK
6:22 PM
Well if you aren't worried about ever going back, you can give a little less than 2 weeks too
do they know you aren't happy?
 
@swasheck it's like a bandaid just rip it off.
 
that's not really who i am, though.
@Zane except the bandaid is in conference calls all day :)
 
Yeah I'd only do that if they were total asstards to you. I gave a month when I left my last job.
 
now i'm debating the ethics of emailing/dropping the letter on his desk and discussing later
 
@swasheck bust in in the middle of the call.
 
6:24 PM
No, go corner him right now
 
yeah
 
Do it.
 
mkay. well ... ok
 
6:41 PM
Just gimme teh codez
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Q: SQL command to compare results is not working

Addie And-Micara BakerUPDATE: Sorry, but this is not a duplicate question. This is unique. I have the code on next comment working and bringing back the OEMPartNumber. My problem is the OEMSubNumber. AS you can see in the table I cannot match the OEMSubNumber like i did the in sql i got working. I have to match the OE...

This is unique because my table names are different, dang it!
 
JNK
it's unique in that they don't want to read
 
What is it with people who want you to make a decision in a vacuum? Grrrr.....
 
6:58 PM
Has @swasheck returned to us victorious yet?
@bluefeet's hiding things from us.
 
@Zane always
 
@AddieAnd-MicaraBaker you've been pointed to a solution that if read and considered careully will solve your problem. It may not be the exact code that you are running but apply the same concepts and you'll be fine. — Zane 1 min ago
We have a new visitor.
Hi @soni
 
Egads
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Q: Execute .js file within a mssql stored procedure

Ernesto Vallejo GarcíaI have a web application that gets the shortest distance from a given point to a given array of points. This works based on a javascript file that gets loaded when user requests the info. Now, I want to automate this from the database. Every time that a new record arrives, look for the shortest...

 
Well look at that I'm not the only one who says Egads.
 
7:14 PM
I reserve that word for particularly daft techniques
 
@AaronBertrand I had no idead SQL stored ad hocs that way btw. Makes sense though now that I think about it. (your blog post)
 
@Zane I've given my bad habits presentation 20+ times, and there are always multiple people who are shocked by this. So you're not alone. :-)
 
@AaronBertrand the one that surprised me was tab vs 4 spaces.
 
@bluefeet what a weird way to reply to your answer
 
JNK
7:18 PM
bluefit
fantastic
 
rejected...no question
 
@bluefeet that's weird. That ones new.
 
omg now they edited their OP and totally wiped out the original question. I am regretting answering this
 
Lol
 
@bluefeet I blame @Zane
Dude that's not how edits work. You edit your question not the answer to reflect your new question. — Zane 2 mins ago
 
7:22 PM
@Lamak yeah I may have misphrashed that.
I meant to say details.
 
@Zane right, that's one CHAR(9) vs. 4 x CHAR(32).
SELECT CONVERT(VARBINARY(64), CHAR(9));
vs.
SELECT CONVERT(VARBINARY(64), REPLICATE(' ', 4));
If you change the whitespace you may as well change table and column names too. :-)
 
Learn something new every day.
 
@Zane yeah, should've added that for a comlpete follow up question, he should ask another one
 
@Lamak lol oops.
 
It's unfortunate SQL Server can't handle this, though. Martin Cairns stole my thunder (from a future post) showing that SQL Server knows the plans are the same, but still stores separate copies of them because of the differences in the text hash.
Wonder if I should post a self-answer on dba
 
7:25 PM
@AaronBertrand Probably.
 
Maybe I'll have some motivation next week.
 
Next week always sounds like a good time to start things.
 
@swasheck has been oddly silent. Has he been struck down with vengeance by his boss?
 
JNK
The procrastinator's litany...I'll be sure to get it done next week.
I hope not, he has witnesses
 
@AaronBertrand hopefully he had the strength to get out of that place
 
JNK
7:33 PM
I didn't realize it was so bad for him
anyone want to see some cute little kid pictures from a petting zoo?
my wife took the boys today and said my littlest was a goat whisperer
 
@JNK cool
 
JNK
 
JNK
they are going for the goat's tongue for some reason
 
OK so you posted pics of your kids. Here is my new kid
 
JNK
7:39 PM
cute
 
@bluefeet he has more hair than @JNK's
 
thanks we adopted her last weekend
 
JNK
how old is she?
 
4 months
she weighs 3.5 pounds
 
7:41 PM
she is teeny tiny
someone broke the SO nav bar
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Q: Missing: "Meta" from top navigation. Reward offered

MattThe "meta" link has disappeared from the top navigation bar of Stack Overflow all sites in the network... I'm feeling quite lost at the moment.

 
JNK
ours is gone too
 
Seems to be network-wide.
 
JNK
yep
 
ahhhh, the regret for answering this one
Thank you so much guys for your help It works Fine. only problem is repitition of questions and answers that might be the Data Problem. any suggestion? to get the distinct question/Answer based on ID? — user2394918 4 mins ago
 
hola
@JackDouglas or @phil you happen to be around?
 
8:04 PM
Mine is still there.
On SO.
 
@rfusca buenas tardes
@Zane it came back
 
JNK
@Zane because your innertubes is broken
oh its back
 
This is the most up-voted comment I've ever had on meta, I think
All right, what smarty is making code changes on Friday afternoon right around beer-thirty? — Aaron Bertrand 20 mins ago
 
@Lamak :)
 
Time for a meeting with "The business"
 
8:19 PM
@Zane we have devs that say, we need to meet with business. I think the business sounds better
 
@bluefeet we refer to "The Business" as if they are borg.
 
JNK
8:37 PM
does Grant work for Red Gate or am I thinking of someone else/
 
Yes, he does
I just deposited a check from him 5 minutes ago, actually (I loaned him 100 pounds in Nottingham when his debit card didn't work).
 
JNK
lol
I'm looking at redgates tools
I really want SQL Prompt
 
Just buy it. Get the dev bundle because Compare / Data Compare are worth their weight in gold.
I don't pimp many other vendors' tools at all, especially when they have a competing product to ours. But these three tools are no-brainers.
 
JNK
yeah those look great too
I'm thinking of how I can convince work to buy it for me
 
I don't do the source control stuff, and of course I am not a big fan of their monitoring product (not because it's a competitor of sorts but because it's a rare case in their offerings where you barely get what you pay for).
@JNK make them read this:
If you're going to fart around building your own that does anything like what they've already QA'd and battle-tested, you're not saving any money.
Arguably the prompt stuff is not necessary, and you aren't going to build your own IntelliSense, but if you would use it to re-format SQL (I would, if I get lots of crappy code from other people!), try to quantify in a particularly nasty day how much time you spend performing that formatting where it would be one or two clicks with a tool.
 
JNK
8:47 PM
well the prompt looked nice too because we tend to have a LOT of objects
 
@JNK MS should just buy the sql prompt product and give to everyone. It's the best thing evar
 
JNK
and do a LOT of refactoring
 
Productivity tools in the $ low hundreds range should really be automatic.
 
JNK
...said the successful consultant and MVP
;)
 
Unless you're a productivity tool collector, of course. I mean the ones that you actually use.
 
JNK
8:49 PM
yeah I get what you mean
I'll wait a bit and talk to work about it
 
@JNK I've never had a problem convincing my company to spend money on tools that save me time. And at my last job they were real penny-pinchers.
 
JNK
they just laid out several grand for me to go to ATL I don't want to push my luck
 
@JNK should be from a completely different budget
 
ug, this is driving me up the wall...the performance just took a dive for no apparent reason
@JNK heading to atl?
 
JNK
@AaronBertrand it is. I just don't want to be the guy that keeps asking for big ticket items
@rfusca I went last week
 
8:50 PM
I'm used to acquiring tools being such a struggle that I simply make do without. Or buy them myself and take them with me.
 
@JNK well if a $200 tool is "big ticket" then maybe you're right. :-)
 
JNK
I would want the whole dev package
 
@JNK ah what for? where in atl?
 
JNK
and They would need to get it for at least 2 other folks I think too
 
@JNK well yeah, but maybe you have to do it piecemeal
 
JNK
8:51 PM
so now we are close to $5k
@rfusca I was in a training seminar near Olympic Centennial Park
 
@JNK you would never pay street price if you were buying three developer bundles. FWIW.
If you do then shame on you. You need to call them and negotiate. :-)
 
JNK
@AaronBertrand oh it looks like they do discounts when you get to 5
lol
 
I
'm sure they will give you a discount at three, too.
 
@JNK oh, i work right by there
 
I've been told by many of my friends who work for 3rd party tool companies: "No one EVER pays retail"
 
JNK
8:53 PM
@rfusca This was at the Embassy suites
 
yup, just a few buildings down from me
 
JNK
It sounds like these tools are kind of like health care - nobody pays ticket price
 
@JNK Yeah, because you're rarely buying just one. I mean, how many folks are typically buying a single bundle or a license for one instance.
 
Well just as a different perspective, we have plenty of customers who pay retail. But beyond the pre-packaged volumes (like 5-packs) which have discounting built in, almost everything > 5 licenses is a custom quote.
 
JNK
which I guess makes sense for products that expensive, it's worthwhile to have a sales person spend 30 minutes guaranteeing a 5-10k sale
 
8:55 PM
Exactly. And I suspect most customers just want to be reassured that they got something out of the deal - even if it's only $500 off sticker.
 
JNK
ok guys and gal have a good weekend
 
Ciao, I'm out too
 
9:17 PM
i'm still alive. i also had a dr. appt. there was no conversation ... i am so disappointed. i guess the next stop is HR
 
9:29 PM
@rfusca I saw you say hi just as I was heading home, do you still want me?
 
people do not read tags
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Q: sql server 2000 the GROUP_CONCAT() function

user2302416I tried to use the GROUP_CONCAT function in sql server 2000 but it returns an error: "'group_concat' is not a recognized function name" so i guess there is an other function for group_concat in sql server 2000 can you tell me what it is? thank you!

 
@JackDouglas if you know anything about sudden high log_file_sync waits, then yes lol
 
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Q: Sudden increase in log_file_sync waits

rfuscaI'm on Oracle 11gR2 with a 2 node RAC system. It's shared fiber storage to an EMC Clariion. Last friday things went bad..fast. All of the sudden processes that normally ran fine for years became very, very slow. I noticed a sudden increase in log_file_sync waits and the LGWR process is listed...

 
Do you mean mysql as in "your SQL" Because that's not really what that tag is for. — Zane 2 mins ago
 
@rfusca anything change on Friday beforehand? I'm sure you would have mentioned it, but I have to ask?
 
9:37 PM
Have I become to mean??
 
@Zane to mean, or not to mean ... THAT is the question ... i see you're working on your vowel compression algorithm
 
@rfusca including other stuff on the SAN
 
Oh yeah before I take off.
@swasheck how'd it go?
 
@Zane it didnt ... dude waved me off and then left saying, "i gotta get to my kids' field day"
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A: sql server 2000 the GROUP_CONCAT() function

bluefeetUnfortunately since you are using SQL Server 2000 you cannot use FOR XML PATH to concatenate the values together. Let's say we have the following sample Data: CREATE TABLE yourtable ([id] int, [name] varchar(4)); INSERT INTO yourtable ([id], [name]) VALUES (1, 'John'), (1, 'Jim'), (2, 'Bo...

nice work
 
Why thank you.
 
9:40 PM
@swasheck leave it on his desk. Consider it two weeks.
3
 
considering it ... just not sure of the implications
 
She's pretty damn good.
Alright I'm out see you later.
 
@JackDouglas not that we can figure out
@JackDouglas ya, i'm checking a statspack on another system that shares the san now
 
@swasheck The implications are that you tried to give notice and he brushed you off. I honestly wouldn't invest to much into it. Sounds like my boss at my last job, honestly.
So leave it on his desk/email him today and don't sweat it. Might want to cc HR, just to cover all bases.
Though that's pretty lame that he would completely brush you off like that.
 
@rfusca can you run any sequential IO tests on the volume with the logs?
 
9:43 PM
@MikeFal thanks. i'm covering all bases.
 
@JackDouglas hmmm not sure what I would run
 
Frankly, if he's this kind of dick, I'd almost pay to see the look on his face when he discovers your notice in this manner.
 
@MikeFal he's just high-strung and this will now put him at 4 headcount lost on 5 weeks.
 
ok, i've confirmed that the other db on the same shared storage doesn't have the issue
 
9:46 PM
@swasheck If that doesn't send a message, I wonder what will. :)
 
@JackDouglas shouldnt you be in bed?
 
@swasheck yes
 
@MikeFal eh. ultimately i dont envy his position and i dont want to over-consider his feelings. however, i am a sucker for wanting people to like me and approve of me.
 
So apparently our new director of infrastructure is asking why all devs don't have SYSDBA permissions in our shared dev environment (Oracle).
 
@swasheck he's being nice and hanging around for me I believe
 
9:48 PM
@swasheck But people do like and approve of you. At least enough to offer you a new (hopefully better paying) job!
 
@JackDouglas out of the kindness of your heart you're helping a stranger half a world away. sounds like the stuff of novels
@MikeFal right. and i appreciate that :) ... +25k base. that was more than expected
 
@rfusca you mean it is 100% reproducible on the system with the problem? have you checked it is the same on all the RAC nodes?
 
@swasheck No shit? Nice. Of course, I think Oppenheimer pays NYC scale, which rocks for Denver.
 
@JackDouglas I flagged dba.stackexchange.com/questions/42468/… Please ignore/reject it as the OP has deleted the cross-post.
 
@MikeFal yeah - it was supernice
 
9:51 PM
@JackDouglas one sec
ok, I think its just on one node
 
@rfusca that rules out IO if true
are all the instances writing logs to the same SAN volume?
select * from gv$logfile;
 
10:49 PM
@rfusca am now mate. See Jack's started helping
 

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