The Sphinx's Lair

TheGreatEscaper

4:00 PM

Wowee, Mike was FAST on your killer sudoku.

Killer isn't my best genre, so I'm only a third ish of the way

dcfyj

@Sid mind if I put a nicer picture up on your question? I can paste it in here first if you like.

TrojanByAccident

Nobody has solved my riddle yet?

dcfyj

No idea

Sid

4:21 PM

@dcfyj Please feel free to do so...

I have been hoping someone would put up a black and white one as well for the color-blind.

dcfyj

Sadly it's smaller but I think it looks good.

Sid

Yeah, edit in your picture...

dcfyj

I already did

Sid

My paint skills are as horrible as it gets..

dcfyj

(I am modifying it in paint to make it a bit better though)

TrojanByAccident

4:31 PM

use GIMP

paint is horrible

Sid

That's better. Only if you had edited in the lines to show all the squares, it would have been much better.

dcfyj

That's what I'm doing now

Mithrandir

Would it sound weird to say that when the Clue series is over it won't actually end?

Rubio

4:48 PM

@TheGreatEscaper Mike was really fast. I made an error my first time through and had to scrub a lot to get back to a consistent point, but even without that it took me not much under an hour to test solve that sudoku.

Mithrandir

@Volatility how's progress?

Sid

Yeah, I am surprised he got it that fast.

Rubio

@Mithrandir I would have credited you for that answer except I was actually pretty sure mine was going to be wrong too :)

Mithrandir

Hmm. Interesting. Waiting for an overseas call from the US Congress ;)

Sid

Wow, @Rubio I am surprised the Times hasn't got any downvotes yet. And only 51 people have paid for it so far. You need to up your game to get more people to pay for it. :P

Mithrandir

4:54 PM

It looks too professional for downvotes

Rubio

I'm surprised nobody's at least gotten the decoding yet

dcfyj

there you go @Sid picture edit all done :P

Rubio

At this point every clue I could give without outright telling someone what it is, is in there

Mithrandir

And then you'd be stealing, because you didn't just not pay, you stole someone else's upvote that they gave.

dcfyj

I'm kind of fond of the color blind version :)

Sid

4:57 PM

As payment and gratitude for your services, I would upvote some of your posts. :P

dcfyj

I suppose? Didn't really do it for rep

Mithrandir

That's against the rules

Vote for the post, not the person

Deusovi

Yeah, @Sid. Don't do that.

Sid

I know, but still..

dcfyj

(I was thinking that too but wasn't sure)

TrojanByAccident

4:58 PM

@Mithrandir not if they're good posts

Mithrandir

23 secs ago, by Mithrandir

Vote for the post, not the person

Sid

Fine, I would upvote some good posts, which I haven't upvoted yet..

dcfyj

@TrojanByAccident If he thinks it's a good post he probably already upvoted :P

TrojanByAccident

@Mithrandir If they are posts that he would upvote anyway, but maybe just didn't see

dcfyj

Also, aaaaaand Deusovi out of the woodwork!

Sid

5:00 PM

Yeah, I leave many posts to be upvoted and then forget to upvote them..

Deusovi

Yep, got back from the Hunt last night! :D

dcfyj

I never even looked at it, much as I expected to do.

Mithrandir

Has anyone gotten a rhyme tag badge yet?

dcfyj

That's for answering isn't it?

Mithrandir

yes

I have a score of 79 in answers in rhyme

Beastly Gerbil

5:01 PM

Yep I have one

dcfyj

Yeah, I don't answer much lol. I doubt I'm remotely close to any of them.

Beastly Gerbil

puzzling.stackexchange.com/help/badges/102/rhyme?userid=18250

puzzling.stackexchange.com/help/badges/102/rhyme

Mithrandir

So let's see if I get a tag badge on Puzzling or SFF first :P

Beastly Gerbil

Second is more helpful to you @Mithrandir

Mithrandir

I have one on each

Sid

5:02 PM

@BeastlyGerbil Did you ever look at the puzzle that I sent you? Because, if not, you are free to answer it..

dcfyj

@Mithrandir puzzling.stackexchange.com/help/…

Beastly Gerbil

@Sid sorry, I didn't have the time

Rubio

i've got bronze for riddle, rhyme, and ... oddly ... math

Beastly Gerbil

I won't answer it though. Some people could say I've already looked at it

Mithrandir

@dcfyj Hang on, why is it showing the bronze tag badge there? I have one of those

Beastly Gerbil

5:03 PM

I've got riddle, rhyme and wordplay

Mithrandir

I have a riddle tag badge on puzzling, that's it

Beastly Gerbil

And so close to cipher. Just need 6 more answers

Mithrandir

And a Harry Potter tag badge on Scifi

dcfyj

@Mithrandir It might be showing mine... not sure

Beastly Gerbil

I've actually nearly got silver riddle

Mithrandir

5:05 PM

@dcfyj no, even if I go manually

heads to Puzzling Meta

dcfyj

The closest I am to any given bronze tag badge is 6 questions (aka I need 14 more, not counting the overall score) >.<

Rubio

One week until i get Fanatic. whee!

Beastly Gerbil

:P

dcfyj

Until you forget to log in on day 99

Mithrandir

Congrats in advance

Beastly Gerbil

5:07 PM

You really been here that long?

Mithrandir

@dcfyj I forgot on 94 once

Beastly Gerbil

@Mithrandir we're head to head here :P

Rubio

That long. That short. 100 days flies. :)

Beastly Gerbil

I've visited 163 days consectutive...

308 days overall

Mithrandir

Hmm, that tag badge thing on unearned is network-wide...

dcfyj

5:08 PM

I usually don't get on on the weekends so it's a hard one for me to get

Mithrandir

> visited 152 days, 63 consecutive

^me here

Beastly Gerbil

@dcfyj even just flicking open the app and then closing it counts :P

Mithrandir

> visited 256 days, 63 consecutive

^me SFF

Oh but wait

If you have a userscript it makes it much easier

dcfyj

My current count
> visited 185 days, 1 consecutive

Mithrandir

Why didn't that quote?

Beastly Gerbil

5:09 PM

99 more to go :P

Mithrandir

There's another use case for this script. The retrieval of the flag summary counts as a site visit for the Enthousiast & Fanatic badges. You just have to visit the global flag summary once a day. — Glorfindel Jan 11 at 8:33

Rubio

< visited 107 days, 93 consecutive

Sphinx

0

Q: WikiHop - The Wikipedia Encyclopedia game

This is a little puzzle based on the Wikipedia game which my friend showed me. All you need is a device with internet connection. The aim is to find a way from one Wikipedia page to another using links. Example Q&A: Q: Minecraft -> Sweden A: Minecraft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Mithrandir

> visited 107 days, 93 consecutive

> visited 185 days, 1 consecutive

Huh

It quoted them for me

But not for dc

dcfyj

> It's probably because I used Shift+Enter :P

TrojanByAccident

5:12 PM

yeah, shift+enter kills formatting

Mithrandir

**test**
*more test*

Rubio

annoying, isn't it

Mithrandir

What's annoying is this chatflag bug

The Comics proposal on Area 51 died, I restarted it

TrojanByAccident

@Mithrandir the click to star/unstar?

Mithrandir

@TrojanByAccident no

Rubio

5:16 PM

That WikiHop "puzzle" is, at best, just going to end with a bunch of people tied at the same hop count.

Deusovi

Yeah...

Mithrandir

@TrojanByAccident When a user flags a message, every 10k user on the network is notified. It shows up as a blue number on your avatar. But there's a bug that keeps showing flags when there are none.

dcfyj

I'm really sure if it's a fit for this site either

TrojanByAccident

@Mithrandir oh

@dcfyj same. I kinda want to flag it, but I can't find a fitting flag

Beastly Gerbil

hi @Deusovi

Deusovi

5:17 PM

Hey BG!

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, there's bugs like that for actual review numbers, too, that show up once you're a certain rep.

TrojanByAccident

vlq maybe?

Rubio

I VTC'ed it as "too broad" because it's not going to have a single answer.

Mithrandir

@Khale_Kitha not a bug

Deusovi

@TrojanByAccident Not flagworthy - it's not an exceptional case.

Khale_Kitha

5:18 PM

So it's been argued, Mith, but I was able to prove that wrong

TrojanByAccident

@Deusovi hmm

Mithrandir

@Khale_Kitha After 10k, that number shows the total number of review items that have not been completed yet.

Khale_Kitha

Yep, I know

Deusovi

Oh never mind, you're still too low rep to VTC. Yeah, go ahead and flag.

Mithrandir

Everything else is cahcing

Khale_Kitha

5:19 PM

Not when 6 other people can confirm it =D

Rubio

I'm going to be watching @Deusovi's profile page all day today now

Beastly Gerbil

the annoying thing about flat chags, is they stay there till you click them but by that time they've been reviewed anyway

dcfyj

@Rubio Creeper :P

Deusovi

@Rubio ...Any particular reason why?

Rubio

Yes?

Deusovi

5:20 PM

Oh cool, I'm nearly at 30 kilorep!

Rubio

Yup. :)

dcfyj

kilorep? Interesting naming convention

Beastly Gerbil

I like it

Rubio

I said if the Times wasn't solved before you hit 30k I'd change the TidBits to add your 30k Club welcome

Looks like I'm gonna have to :)

dcfyj

You should CamelCase it @Deusovi :P

Khale_Kitha

5:21 PM

or pascal to follow many conventions :P

kRep =D

Deusovi

...why?

dcfyj

Why not is the real question :P

Deusovi

Because of SI standards.

@Khale_Kitha Pascal is a unit already. We need to name the unit of reputation after someone else known for doing a lot of work with reputation...

Let's call it a Skeet! :P

dcfyj

CamelCase is a standard...

Deusovi

Not for units.

Khale_Kitha

5:22 PM

pascal is a naming convention, hehe

Beastly Gerbil

I have 13.9 Skeet :P

dcfyj

It is for variables and kilorep could be considered one :P

Deusovi

How? That's a unit, not a variable.

dcfyj

1000 rep ^^

Stop thinking Math and think programming already :P

Deusovi

...You mean you use variables like litre in your code? I do not want to read code written by you.

dcfyj

5:24 PM

What's wrong with having litres (or liters) as a variable?

float litre = 30;
^ is perfectly acceptable and viable.

Deusovi

Because you're not measuring "litre". You're measuring "volume".

float volume = 30 would make much more sense.

dcfyj

True, but if it's a container that has measurements of litres on it I would probably say something like litresInBottle.

Will

python 2: `volume = 30L`
problem solved

Deusovi

@Will Isn't that L for "long"? :P

Will

Yes.

Rubio

5:26 PM

sub liters_to_quarts($) {
my($liters)=@_;
my $quarts=1.05669*$liters;
return $quarts;
}

Deusovi

@dcfyj Why not volBottle (or volumeInBottle)?

Rubio

I'm pretty sure using "volume" there would be silly :)

dcfyj

@Rubio ew, one-liners

Deusovi

@Rubio volInQuarts and volInLitres would be much better.

Khale_Kitha

liters would be a perfectly acceptable name for the example case, because it would have likely been a constant

1000 rep being a constant value for the var

Deusovi

5:27 PM

I'd only use units as 'variables' if they were constants.

dcfyj

I've started a debate!

Khale_Kitha

/end

dcfyj

@Rubio That's infinitely easier to read

Rubio

and I don't want to hear about my indentation. THAT IS HOW TO INDENT. END. OF. DISCUSSION. :)

Deusovi

@Rubio PUTTING BRACES ON THE SAME LINE AS FUNCTION NAMES IS HERESY

Rubio

5:28 PM

aww. it ate the indents anyway :(

dcfyj

ew poor indentation :P

Khale_Kitha

Also, you have no indents :P

Rubio

@Deusovi HAVE AT YOU

Khale_Kitha

@Deusovi This.

dcfyj

@Deusovi Yeah, I like to completely separate mine, makes it easier to read

Deusovi

5:29 PM

Yeah! You can see where the { and }s match up!

dcfyj

Yup

Rubio

Nope. Will never do that. Can't stand it :)

Deusovi

Makes it much easier to fix brace errors when they occur. Everything is nice and vertically aligned.

Khale_Kitha

dcfyj

Don't you have to do indentations in python anyhow?

Khale_Kitha

5:30 PM

Though if you have an addon that shows little lines on the side, that helps, too

Deusovi

You see? That's the right way to do it.

Khale_Kitha

danged browser locking up

Rubio

Nope. Not gonna do it. :)

dcfyj

@Khale_Kitha or you can use ctrl+[

Khale_Kitha

lol

doesn't do anything

Bah, restarting browser.

Rubio

5:31 PM

If your editor doesn't let you find matching braces, get a new editor.

Will

3

dcfyj

Select the brace and do that (or ]) I always forget which it is

Deusovi

@Will looks fine to me :P

Rubio

@Will Lol. I love that post

Khale_Kitha

lol Will

Death to that code style.

dcfyj

5:32 PM

@Khale_Kitha I'm guessing whoever wrote that is used to python

Rubio

"I will write in Python, in any language I am given. Nyah!"

Khale_Kitha

or even
if (n == 0)
System.out.println(String.valueOf(a))

Deusovi

Rubio, why not? Can you tell me what possible visual or practical advantage making braces share space with the line above can give?

Beastly Gerbil

I've just kept out of those because this is a new language to me. Literally :P

Khale_Kitha

lol

dcfyj

5:33 PM

What is?

Deusovi

I think BG's saying that they've never coded.

Beastly Gerbil

I have but only in python and html

Deusovi

@BeastlyGerbil Basically the point is that Rubio is wrong about everything. That's all you need to know.

7

Ah, alright

Rubio

@Deusovi Personally I find the extra whitespace visually distracting, and it eats an extra line of screen real estate for the start of every block to very minimal benefit

dcfyj

Oh, it's not too bad. most languages you can pretty much just read normally now-a-days

ew html

Beastly Gerbil

5:34 PM

I learnt it for the site

dcfyj

ew html :P

Deusovi

@Rubio But you don't mind the extra whitespace at the end of a block, or the "eating an extra line of screen real estate" there? At least be consistent.

Khale_Kitha

@dcfyj github.com/DennisMitchell/jelly/wiki/Tutorial :P

dcfyj

lol

Rubio

No because there it concludes a "paragraph". It feels semantically right.

I didn't say I was consistent, or even sensible. But there are lots of people who agree. Go figure. :)

Khale_Kitha

5:35 PM

Basically Rubio doesn't mind endings, but beginnings are a no-no :P

Deusovi

Sure, and those people are all heretics.

Khale_Kitha

^

Rubio

:)

Also I use vim, fine. Pedants.

Will

@Deusovi If you can get a copy of Code Complete, you should check out chapter 31 :)

Khale_Kitha

Aww, my book's at home - no fun, Will

cc2e.com/Page.aspx?hid=167

dcfyj

5:37 PM

hehe, I found that page too

Khale_Kitha

hehe

Rubio

oh good - ioccc.org is coming back in 2017

dcfyj

@Khale_Kitha en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge

I win :P

Khale_Kitha

I'd be inclined to argue that jelly is more annoying.

Rubio

Everything I learned about coding and indentation style I learned from the IOCCC. :)

Khale_Kitha

5:38 PM

Seeing how I saw a SE post about how to do something that 'requires' 10 lines of code in C# done in 2 characters

lol

dcfyj

@Rubio So clearly they're wrong :P

Deusovi

@Rubio I can tell. :P

Khale_Kitha

sorry 5 characters

3

A: How many minimum days will he take to complete N units of work?

Jelly, 5 bytes ×4’½Ḟ This uses a closed form of @KennyLau's approach. Try it online! or verify all test cases. Due to a lucky coincidence, Ḟ is overloaded as floor/real for real/complex numbers. This is one of the only three overloaded atoms in Jelly. How it works ×4’½Ḟ Main link. Argument...

Rubio

@Deusovi (hehe. That was a straight line just for you :)

dcfyj

haha this one

3

A: Obfuscation Challenge

Malbolge I'd say that it can't get anymore obfuscated than Malbolge ;) (=<`:9876Z4321UT.-Q+*)M'&%$H"!~}|Bzy?=|{z]KwZY44Eq0/{mlk** hKs_dG5[m_BA{?-Y;;Vb'rR5431M}/.zHGwEDCBA@98\6543W10/.R,+O<

Sid

5:43 PM

Gareth's CCCC still not solved.... @Deusovi @Rubio Solve that now...

Khale_Kitha

Some say that when Malbolge is finally understood, the earth will crack open and we will all be enslaved to work a giant assembly line replacing its core with a chewy nougat center. p.s. We ask that users tag their answers as community wiki, and link to the source, when the work is not their own. Thanks!! — Jonathan Van Matre Mar 14 '14 at 14:38

lol

dcfyj

I saw that haha

The funny thing is, it has to be understood by a person, because that person made it in the first place :P

Khale_Kitha

That's a big assumption :P

Deusovi

@dcfyj Nah, they found it buried in an ancient tomb along with some inscription. Something about eternal torment.

dcfyj

It's a pretty sad day when you don't undterstand your own creation...

Khale_Kitha

5:46 PM

Maybe it really means: "Bing Tiddle Tiddle Bong."

Anyone have any ideas for Hugh's rebus?

Mithrandir

@Rubio Don't do that, just make another issue

Rubio

@dcfyj The guy who created it has never written a program in it. It took two years for someone to actually write one, and it took a heuristic search algorithm to do even that.

dcfyj

Yeah, I just saw that

Just ran accross this great hing

LOLCODE

LOLCODE is an esoteric programming language inspired by lolspeak, the language expressed in examples of the lolcat Internet meme. The language was created in 2007 by Adam Lindsay, researcher at the Computing Department of Lancaster University. The language is not clearly defined in terms of operator priorities and correct syntax, but several functioning interpreters and compilers exist. One interpretation of the language has been proven Turing-complete. == Language structure and examples == LOLCODE's keywords are drawn from the heavily compressed (shortened) patois of the lolcat Internet meme....

Khale_Kitha

hahahaha

Mithrandir

o_O

dcfyj

5:53 PM

The examples are pretty funny

Rubio

@Mithrandir I'd actually consider doing a semi-regular Times format, but I know repetition tends to get tired quickly and I wouldn't want to run it into the ground.

Khale_Kitha

Related projects, "ArnoldC ...[which]... replaces lolspeak with quotes from different Arnold Schwarzenegger movies"

dcfyj

lol this example:
HAI 1.2
CAN HAS STDIO?
I HAS A VAR
IM IN YR LOOP
UP VAR!!1
VISIBLE VAR
IZ VAR BIGGER THAN 10? KTHX
IM OUTTA YR LOOP
KTHXBYE

Khale_Kitha

So what does the following code do, dcfyj?

Mithrandir

@Rubio Just make sure that the puzzle is different each time. Maybe format as a magazine instead of a newspaper and have multiple pages :P

Khale_Kitha

5:54 PM

OH NOES!1!!1!!!1ELEVENN!!

Mithrandir

Woo Literature launches tomorrow

Everyone have their ~~example~~ questions ready? :P

Khale_Kitha

Sounds like a category of love poetry ;)

"Woo Literature"

Mithrandir

o_O

Rubio

lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC

Khale_Kitha

lol

COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE
YOU SET US UP
I'LL BE BACK

Will

5:58 PM

hodor-lang.org

dcfyj

I still think this wins

Khale_Kitha

@Will Don't make me create buffalo-lang.org

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