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12:00 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It hurrrrrts
No way are you telling me that language is less ambiguous than mathematics
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What do we call a circle, then? A 'nice blob'?
 
Next job, simplifying Principia Mathematica down to a one page flyer
 
Or an ellipse. 'Another nice blob'
 
Does removing one hair make a non-bald man bald?
 
A not so, but still fairly, nice blob
 
Maths will always be incomplete anyway
why don't we just remove more of it
 
12:01 AM
@Alconja Depends on the size of the page. And whether it's a box or a blob too.
 
Nothing is black and white... We live in a world full of greys. We should just get straight to the root cause, and do away with true and false, replacing them with the new, more modern and inclusive eh.
 
"Nothing is black and white..." says the guy with the black and white avatar.
 
It's shades of (very dark and very very light) grey. :P
I have wondered about adding a single pixel of colour in the hopes of getting people to attempt to clean their screens.
 
You know what would annoy a lot of people
You take a standard SE profile pic and edit it so that it's just not quite rotationally symmetric anymore
I know that'd be painful for me
 
I think they're called 'gravatars', and there's a site that makes them.
 
12:09 AM
I thought about that too, just slightly moving or flipping one of the triangles
 
flip the small black triangle on the bottom edge vertically
 
Also thought about changing it extremely subtly over time in the worlds slowest animation
 
That no one could ever watch...
 
The ultimate form of art
 
Bah, I spend all this time solving an instance of Tatham's Pattern and then discover that the solution isn't some kind of pretty picture.
"Non-figurative art? I demand my money back!"
 
12:15 AM
Looks like a dragon towering over a rock to me.
Have an question to get us out of this rut.
Anyone want to time the @Sphinx?
 
@boboquack Blimey. That looks ... impossible without a computer.
 
I'll relax it a little.
@Randal'Thor There you go. c) should be easy to do by hand, but (maybe?) hard to optimise...
 
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Q: Letter Navigation

boboquackConsider the following grid of streets with roadblocks: If you are facing in the direction of the arrow and want to get to the dot, the highlighted path is the shortest: This traces out an L. Let's try another one: This traces out the symbol @. Design such a grid so that: a) a...

 
Finally, @Sphinx.
 
Woo, drive-by upvote on an old answer which is probably one of my top answers when ranked by time I put into them.
 
12:28 AM
That one really looks like a mathematical proof. You should get Rubio to TEX it up for you.
 
This one is also up there among my most time-consuming answers.
But I may have set a new record with today's 0hh1 tutorial.
 
Given chat, I'm surprised there's been 9 people around to view my question.
 
The chatters are only a tiny proportion of the site's users, who in turn are probably only a tiny proportion of the site's viewers.
Btw @boboquack, I'm still clueless on your Family Reunion.
 
Have you solved the sudoku yet?
 
Can't work out what those arrows are supposed to be, or even how many types of arrow there are.
Is it a sudoku?
 
12:42 AM
@Randal'Thor Yes. You don't need the arrows to solve the sudoku, so you can ignore them for now.
 
Bah.
 
If you click on the picture, you might be able to see in higher resolution.
 
Yep, already done and saved it.
But I have no clue where to start with this sudoku.
It's really daunting.
 
online solver :P??
It's quite a task even to input it into an online solver, actually
 
That's cheating!
 
12:45 AM
Hey, didn't stop 4 people from using it on my page of puzzling
And none of them even realised the sudoku had multiple solutions... :P
 
Unfortunately, on PSE, the cheaters get the rep if they're faster.
 
@Randal'Thor No. It's not a riddle. (And it does tell a story, though not a good one.)
 
Yay! Now I can get the rollback badge.
 
@Rubio How can it not be a riddle? It describes an unknown "I" to be identified. That's a riddle.
 
12:49 AM
Yep. That's a riddle too.
Not sure why I didn't edit that one before. I remember looking at it.
 
A riddle is a series of clues that point to a single thing. These are, well, anything but that.
 
I think you may be able to assume I know what I'm talking about when it comes to riddles on this site :-)
 
Not threatening the dupe-hammer again are you? :D
 
Well, yeah, but - these aren't riddles. You're not trying to guess from the hints what the subject of the riddle is. You're doing a word/letter game thing presented in an unusual (and, I hope, interesting) way.
 
12:56 AM
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Q: If you think I'm lanky now

RubioIf you think I'm lanky now, I used to be even more sinewy. They took away a part of me. Not wanting to lose more, I became an even bigger skinflint. Then they cut out my right eye—what am I now? The unkindest cut of all. I escaped, but found that while I'd once been swift, I'd los...

 
I don't think is appropriate for any of these. There's no single subject with a set of indirect clues hinting to it. Not everything that ends with "What was I" is necessarily a riddle. The point here is to identify the first, last, and all intermediate words. I disagree that this is in the vein of a riddle.
 
Can I flag the sphinx for being late?
 
But if you seem to be insisting on it, you can obviously edit-war me into submission.
 
@Rubio You're describing an unknown object and doing things to it to get new objects, and the question is "what is that object?"
 
Actually, no. I am exactly not doing that.
 
1:00 AM
I don't want to get into an edit war. If you really feel strongly about it, take it to meta, and I'll find a list of a dozen other questions in the same vein which have been tagged in the past.
@Rubio "I" this, "I" that, all through the riddle.
 
I think it's similar enough to warrant the tag
 
I respectfully disagree. I don't feel strongly enough about it to fight about it, specifically.
 
If i was looking for riddles, I'd want to have this sort of puzzle available to me in the 'riddle' list
The tags are here for people to find puzzles, guys
More tags are never a bad thing :D
 
Yah, I mean whatever - I'm just saying, if I was looking for a riddle, I wouldn't be wanting word chains. That, apparently, is just me.
Carry on.
 
Another past example (mine this time): puzzling.stackexchange.com/q/18773/5373
 
1:05 AM
There are riddles like 'i am a disc (plate), but cut off my head and I'm behind (late). Headless again, I've gorged (ate), mix me up and I can be served on what I once was (tea)'
 
Hi @2012rcampion
It strikes me as funny that users often have higher rep on Puzzling than the sites where their chat is based.
Is Puzzling becoming an easy way to boost system-wide rep?
 
I'd say rep is harder to earn here than elsewhere. On most sites you just have to know stuff to be able to answer questions; on Puzzling, you need to have active skill and imagination.
It probably just reflects that people started off on older sites and then came here and stayed, but never troubled to change their chat parent user.
 
Haisu will be up very soon...
 
Good job, @Alconja!
 
That's a niiiice set of words
 
1:18 AM
I don't take credit for the word set. The presentation was mine, of course.
 
I've got one in my notes somewhere that is a word that starts short, grows to 10 characters, then shrinks again. But with a twist that there's a second set of words that tracks it too. (i.e. each step has two alternative words all the way up and back down)
 
@Bobo not everyone is australian :P
@Alconja sounds really cool! Hopefully we'll be seeing it soon...
Btw, haisu is done
Making the nice copy now!
 
Yay!
 
Is there any way to check chat without appearing as active?
(without logging out)
 
1:20 AM
Does it really matter if you appear as active?
 
@TheGreatEscaper Don't know... Probably wrote it a year ago, but was never 100% happy with it, so kind of shelved it
 
@2012rcampion I would just use a different browser.
 
@2012rcampion You could just refresh the current transcript page
 
Oh! I didn't see Doorknob ♦ arrive! Hello!
 
@2012rcampion Yep, the transcript page.
It's not live, so you have to refresh every so often, as Alconja says.
 
1:22 AM
Though, I kind of agree that these shouldn't be tagged riddle. They're kind of related, but in the same way that cryptic crossword clues are also related... i.e. they all make use of wordplay, are a bit different.
 
@Alconja Sometimes a puzzle can get shelved for a year and then come out and be successful, like my riddle reconstruction one.
 
@Randal'Thor Yep, I think that's what I want; and it looks like I can get there by just changing rooms to transcript in the url
 
This is true... maybe I'll go dust it off. I'm in a bit of a puzzlers block stage anyway, so a "small" puzzle might help nudge me along.
 
Drive-by compulsive MathJax follow-up for @Rubio:
9 hours ago, by Rubio
I do have a quick question for you that i haven't been able to find an answer to yet. What is "%" in a mathjax macro?
- In \def-ining a macro, percent % can be used as a delimiter. (When that macro is called, the % is not treated as a comment at all.)
- When calling a macro, % can actually be part of an input argument if the macro is \def-ined with other characters as delimiters. (Normal macro calls do not use delimiters at all.)
- In normal usage, % and linebreak are like left and right parentheses for a comment, with no net effect, not even a space. (Otherwise, linebreak is almost always treated exactly as a space.)
 
@TheGreatEscaper So... began looking at WITLESS again (btw, surprised it still hasn't been solved), and I think I have Constellation 3. Can I Discord you my solution for verification?
 
1:29 AM
I wonder want Google Deepmind would work out if it was set to analyse PSE...
@Volatility Feel free to post a new answer, seems like everyone's doing that now...
Yay! Haisu!
 
@Volatility sure!
Yup, Haisu is up :D
 
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Q: HAISU (room count): An original grid-logic challenge

TheGreatEscaperHAISU is a portmanteau of three Japanese words - 'hairu', to enter, 'su', number, and 'hausu', an English borrow word meaning house, of course. Together, we get a rough meaning of 'enter number house', which I have roughly translated to English as 'Room Count'. The rules are simple - draw a path...

 
Wow.
How does one even start attacking that?
 
Remember when I mentioned 'unusual logic that I haven't seen before'? :P
 
Sorry. That apostrophe was bugging me :-P
(Btw, although I personally don't mind at all, some people may flag you for using that phrase.)
 
1:40 AM
Which phrase??
 
izan rammarg backwards
 
Oh... oops it's uneditable now.
 
Can RO's edit for you?
 
No, only mods.
 
I've made a start at least...
 
1:43 AM
@TheGreatEscaper Important clarification: "draw a path from the O to the X, passing through every cell in the grid ... exactly once"?
 
Oh yup, exactly once
@Bobo: draws in the corners
 
It's a shame I don't get 2 rep for editing anymore :(
@bobo is actually a valid synonym for my name?
I've done a bit more than just drawing in the corners. Corners are a little obvious
 
It was a joke :P
 
@boboquack Oh, so they are.
See how far behind I am :-P
 
(Curses @Th for giving @Ra a hint)
Did that ping both of you?
 
1:46 AM
You need three characters to ping.
 
Aww...
I can imagine Rubio just writing a computer program to solve it for him.
Hi @Sp3!
 
lol.
 
Hey
 
Hiya Sp
 
I only do that when I've exhausted all other ideas, and when there is no .
 
1:49 AM
@boboquack In Ruby, I would hope.
 
It's not sporting to jump straight to code to solve things. Where's the fun in that?
And - actually - I'm a Perl guy. :)
 
Is Stackreader's answer a FGITW that doesn't give much help?
 
changes Rubio's name to Perlio
@boboquack At the moment it ain't much, but I haven't voted on it yet.
Anyway, I'm off to bed. Good luck to all Haisuers! :-D
 
Gnight!
 
@TheGreatEscaper this looks cool.
'night @Randal'Thor
 
1:55 AM
I think the mechanics are really unusual, so it shouldn't be similar to your routefinding puzzle :)
 
I assume you've got a logical solve path for it.
 
yup
but it requires a very unusual consideration
 
Do you do much reviewing, @The?
 
I'm pretty sure the puzzle is impossible to solve without realizing something special
Reviewing??
 
Up between help and the badges
 
2:05 AM
Ohhh
I think I accepted an edit once
Because it gave me a notification and I was all 'what is this??? oh I have to judge an edit. The question is really old but the edit is fine, okay sure'
But other than that
This is the first time I pressed the button :P
 
That brown number? Yeah... Did you accept it during the winter bash?
 
No
And I didn't winter bash
I hate hats
 
I was spamming edits to get lots of +2's and so Mith could get a hat (supposedly) and I accidently got myself the taco one.
I've made a not-quite-so-obvious step, but there's still a long way to go...
Have you finished typing my puzzle into an online solver?
 
Hehe I'll do it at some point within the next hour :P
You know what, to get it over and done with :P
This is the solver I found
The interface is so annoying
I started doing it box by box
But now to save time I'm doing it letter by letter
Just finished all the Is
This is a bit ridiculous :P
I'm seeing
an unusual patter
*pattern
In the sudoku
Okay I think it's safe to assume this pattern is legit
 
2:26 AM
If you assume you make an a** of u and me.
 
Oh come on, the pattern is working :P
For instance, without any sudoku deductions
I believe the first row reads OJELT|UAV
 
 
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3:32 AM
@TheGreatEscaper Good work so far. I noticed that pattern and thought it would make the sudoku easier. What next now? :P
 
No idea. The arrows appear to have thicknesses ranging from 1 to 4. Possibly a cue to rot all the letters...
@bobo Btw, the constellations have been fully solved. Someone's on the journey down the mountain :D
 
Well, I wasn't getting anywhere, so decided to take a break and try HAISU :P
 
Had a quick look myself... it's hard.
 
I'm fairly certain Haisu is near impossible unless the solver realises something special.
 
Awesome. :D
Well I clearly haven't made that leap
 
3:44 AM
It's not so much of a leap as it is an extra and required leg to walk on... :P
Anyhow, in case the last week hasn't made it painfully obvious, I really love me some grid logic puzzles! :D
 
Yeah, I was figuring when I first looked at it, there'd need to be some broad rule/realisation (i.e. graph theory stuff like Seven Bridges of Königsberg)
 
Something along those lines...
 
Don't tell me someone spilt maths all over my haisu?!
@TheGreatEscaper Specifically, what are the different arrows?
 
Probably rot forwards and backwards by their tail width
 
I mean, what do the different types look like?
 
3:51 AM
Oh, don't tell me it's binary or something
 
No
Well, it's not binary. It is something...
 
By the way, during the design process of Haisu I thought of several rule variants. For instance, a red number could indicate how many cells you have walked past in that entry
so if you pass over a red 3, it must be the third tile you step on since you last entered the room
I decided that that rule made topology/parity arguments a little easier, and overcomplicated the rule set, so didn't include it
But I may post a Haisu variant at some point in the future :P
 
Not sure how that helps, but thanks, I guess...
 
It doesn't help :P it was just a random tidbit
 
I'm going now to have some zen time on the haisu, so that I may achieve enlightenment.
 
4:21 AM
OH! I think I've been enlightened!
Well... I've learnt something, but I'm not sure it helps...
It helps a bit...
I was excited ... there were a lot of posts then ... now no-one is here.
How is Test Solve, Please Ignore going in the MIT puzzle hunt?
 
4:41 AM
hunt's over
 
Who won?
 
we were really close to finishing, but just ran out of time at the end, unfortunately
"Death and Mayhem"
they got the coin within 24h of the hunt beginning, I think, which was crazy
 
Is that team really big?
 
don't know
 
Was it enjoyable?
 
4:47 AM
definitely! although sometimes I was just staring at my screen for an hour, not knowing what to do next for a puzzle -.-
 
That's what I'm doing for Haisu :D
 
hehe
 
@TheGreatEscaper Has stackreader got the correct solution?
 
It disagrees with what I've deduced so far
On the other hand, I can't find a mistake
...I think that's cause I made a mistake in my deduction
 
5:09 AM
Hi @Ankoganit
 
Hello @boboquack
: create a 4x4 Sudokomic.
 
5:44 AM
Hehe. Now that all the sets and constellations have been solved, it's impossible to avoid the HARDEST section of Witless! >:D
stackreader's solve process seems remarkably similar to mine
Although without proper explanation some of the steps will seem strange
 
@TheGreatEscaper Have you made any further progress on my puzzle?
 
 
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7:14 AM
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Q: Too many rebus puzzles!

Wen1nowRecently I've made a bunch of rebuses, and this is the newest lot of 6 (note that I've finally used some colour!). Hard rebuses Parts I, II and III which most of you have probably done.

 
7:53 AM
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Q: A Riddle For a Fast Day Away

Hugh Meyers It's a kind of a change. It's a kind of a chance. It's a kind of a run. It's a kind of a dance. It's a kind of escape. It's the start of a game. Yet from middle to end, it stays somehow the same. The answer is a single English word.

 
 
2 hours later…
10:08 AM
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Q: Dead Letter Drops

RubioStart with a word. Drop the indicated number of letters from it, and rearrange if necessary, to form a set of words of decreasing length with the (probably cryptical) meanings given:       $\small\begin{array}{rl} 0&\textbf{Started a growth spurt}\\ -1&\textbf{Moved to Canada, perhaps}\\ -2&...

 
 
2 hours later…
12:23 PM
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Q: Turn my white light off - I'm incomprehensible

oleslaw You can see where I am, but you can't see me. Creating me by hand you let the hand free. Creating me by tools you use the largest one. I make my cousins be more clear to everyone. The shortest valid answer would be invisible. Turn my white light off - I'm incomprehensible. Who/What...

 
Sid
12:34 PM
@Rubio and @BeastlyGerbil Any progress? Or did I make it too hard?
 
12:53 PM
@sid still feel free to post it :P
 
1:04 PM
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Q: It's always safe to follow instructions

TheGreatEscaperBelow is a black and white safe puzzle for you to crack. To discover the correct code, all you need to do is follow the instructions. Good luck. Underneath '6. The code is:' is a large amount of ciphertext I feel is more useful presented in text format as follows: EEQ. PGHRP YMDR. OZCD UYG...

 
1:59 PM
@Mithrandir You're welcome to do it, or add it to whatever you have planned next.
 
You really don't want to post it?
@Khale_Kitha ^
 
Yeah, too much going on, at the moment - and I'm not really sure how you want it to connect to the rest of them, since they're named rebus clues.
I'd rather not mess up your series
 
It's a standalone puzzle
 
I'll add a story to connect after
Like what Rand and BG did
 
2:05 PM
looking...
 
21 and 24 I think
 
Yeah, this isn't anything as involved as the rest of the clues, sorry. Still looking
 
You can add another layer and encode each word
 
Yeah, I don't want to make it too involved - my puzzles are getting ignored, lately.
I'll look into what to do with it, though :)
I have an idea in mind, now.
 
Good
Don't tell me here :)
 
2:20 PM
yup
 
2:43 PM
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Q: A clue is needed to solve a rebus puzzle

PeppypeanutThis rebus has me stumped. Anyone have any clues to the solution. know know know know Know know Know to know

 
3:04 PM
@Sid I made some decent headway, still have plenty to go. by the way, the numbers being dead center of their cells isn't very helpful - I hope you shrink them and tuck them in a corner.
 
3:36 PM
@Mith Oops - guess I need to compress the image. Imgur rejected it :P
 
Sid
@Rubio Yeah, that's kind of distracting. I would shrink them and would make a color-blind friendly one too.
 
@Mith Email sent...
 
4:19 PM
@Rand Stole your disclaimer - hope you don't mind.
 
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Q: The etched words - Clue Twenty Six

Khale_Kitha<<---First clue <---Previous clue The lights dim and you see, behind them, an etching on the wall that you had not noticed previously. You ponder what the words could mean...

 
@Khale_Kitha are the Chinese characters the enumeration?
 
They help to verify it.
You may not get this quote but...
Everytime I see the word "Verify", all I can think of is:
"Verification of the truth of the words of the Book of Counted Shadows, if spoken by another, rather than read by the one who commands the boxes, can only be insured by the use of a Confessor."
 
Looks like a quote from a fantasy series :P
 
Hehe
 
4:31 PM
I don't read much of that genre at all, sorry. So nah, it doesn't ring a bell
 
One that I've read far too much
 
chainfire?
I did a quick google
 
Very late in the series, but related, yes.
 
I'm not sure how to get 9 letters from 'shortened sugar over retrograde eta'
the last three letters are fairly clear
'Gluconate'???
It seems to fit, but it's a bit of an odd word.
 
Are you just typing your thoughts or asking for the answer? ;)
 
4:35 PM
I always just type my random thoughts
 
hehe
 
Supposing over => ON, that's the only plausible word I can find
over => ATOP seems highly unlikely to me
 
New goal: Use "O'er" in a cryptic clue, and design the entire puzzle in that style.
 
And ya'll're complaining about how my CCCC's take too long
 
We're just ashamed to admit that we can't solve cryptics
 
4:40 PM
@BeastlyGerbil No, sorry. (Comment too short)
 
damn. :P
 
@Beastly they're just Chinese numbers
7,9
You could even just look at the number of sides of the polygon they're in
 
ah thanks. Assuming that thats the numeration?
 
Yeah, I asked earlier on in chat.
 
ok...
 
4:42 PM
Kanji, specifically, but yes - used in Chinese.
 
Chinese, specifically, but yes - also used in Japanese as Kanji
:P
 
Fair enough
 
I can't see an obvious def for the second word
unless that semicolon ISNT the clue splitter
 
could it all just be a medicine?
 
Punctuation is allowed to be a red herring, right?
 
4:43 PM
I mean look at the answer to the other clues...
@Khale_Kitha you kinda just gave it away but yeah :P
 
Oh, okay.
 
Oh so Gluconate looks really likely.
Got it
 
uh damn you
I'd got as far as cal :P
 
What is the defn?
 
@Will If you're bothered by how long my cryptic clue is taking to solve, why not just solve it yourself? :-)
 
4:46 PM
and can you explain each bit?
 
Cal is short
Hang on, not correct?
CI = confidential informant
 
oh ok never heard that
 
It all fits, the enumeration is correct, and there's no unused information.
@Khale_Kitha I don't see what to do from here if this is not the intended answer.
 
Where are you getting the beginning of that second word from?
 
Glucose = sugar
Shorten the word for GLUC
 
4:49 PM
maybe, but gluc isn't a short form of glucose
'glu' is the only short form I can find anywhere
 
Shorten doesn't mean an accepted abbreviation
 
doh
 
it just indicates to literally shorten the word
 
Hey @TheGreatEscaper didn't see you guys working on that in here
 
I feel like this is an ambiguity... Calcium Gluconate is also a common medicine
 
4:50 PM
Is it? I hadn't heard of it
 
Likewise
 
I would have gone for that if I'd known it was
 
@GarethMcCaughan I'm not; I was pointing out that no one else seems to be.
 
It's a mineral supplement - just found out it can be injected apparently
 
4:51 PM
Oops I capitalised an E by accident
 
my explanation actually lands more at gluconate, but I rejected it cuz I didn't know it existed. lol
 
Thats the working link.
Yup, which is why I was a bit surprised when my answer was rejected...
 
chinese characters? Did I miss something completely? I thought he omitted the enumeration entirely
 
Corners of the image
 
Oh good lord. I missed that entirely
 
4:53 PM
GLUC and CARB I feel like is too much of an ambiguity. There's no way to distinguish which one is correct.
 
I agree.
 
Fair enough. Nothing I can do about the fact that you happened to find a word that matches the clue that I haven't heard of, though.
 
Actually I'd argue that c.... is wrong because of definition by example - not all carbohydrates are sugars, whereas all glucose is sugar :)
Oh well. Better luck next time
 
I know it's a jest, but be careful about harassing (that's not entirely the right word, but I can't think of a better one) other people - even as a joke
 
Wait, really? Someone objected to a jesting virtual flogging? Okay then.
So noted and won't repeat.
 
4:59 PM
@Rubio well, would you like it if I told you I was going to flog you? I get that it's a joke, and I get that it's digital, but we're talking about squishy humans with squishy feelings here, which don't stand up to logic sometimes.
 
There was no harassing, or even close, intended. (nor can I see a way to actually read such intent into it, but that's fine.)
 
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