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4:00 PM
I'm being tongue in cheek. The kdc's on the servers have OpenLDAP backends and use syncrepl rather than kprop to keep them in order. There is no way I'm doing this without TLS.
 
@84104 mmhmm and how many servers can YOU manage with only one arm?!? :-P
@84104 Oh syncrepl - how I LOATHE you!
 
@voretaq7 If the ARM server is my puppet master... a lot?
@voretaq7 You're rather go back to slurpd?
 
@84104 oh god... slurpd.... I had forgotten about that
fucking iplanet LDAP server
fucking 1998!
FUCKING JAVA!!!!!
 
FUCKING FRIDAY
 
4:04 PM
@MikeyB yes that's how I feel thinking about iplanet directory server...
 
^ slap cat, of course.
 
@MikeyB That's cat slap not slap cat.
@lsiunsuex I can't tell if you're upset because it's Friday or really happy because it's "Fucking Friday".
 
almost made a grown women cry today. i'm happy :)
@voretaq7 was saying fucking, so i figured i'd partake in the festivities
 
@lsiunsuex Yes, but he was saying it about things that were bad(, but not naughty).
 
you made her administer iplanet directory server?
On a SPARCStation?
Over a remote X connection?
:-)
 
4:08 PM
This crontab timing causes me sadness. 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * *
 
the fileshare was getting low on space - like < 4gb free and we found out there was a duplicate of a folder in excess of 50gb from her dept. i have a special way of talking to people :) and she interpreted it as the server was gonna crash and she was gonna be fired over this
 
@84104 does that version of cron not understand */5?
@lsiunsuex oh hey you want to come talk to my CEO?
 
@voretaq7 Solaris didn't as of v9.
 
Who is using 81% of the space on our mail server?
@Adrian really? REALLY really? That's sad...
 
@voretaq7 Hmmm... @ScottPack's face?
 
4:10 PM
it's been a long time since I've used a Solaris box
 
Not sure if this is enough to make up for all the awful questions they have caused to be asked over here.
 
@voretaq7 Yeah, that's about how I felt going from Fedora to Solaris 9.
 
Today is System Admin Appreciation Day! We'll be showering our admins with praise, high fives & free food. How about you? ^SC
 
@voretaq7 that's a long time to go without being awesome! D=
 
@voretaq7 I'm pretty sure it does. Some version of vixie-cron from cira 2007.
 
4:11 PM
@84104 then it should...
 
Hey, @ewwhite, got any new bargain servers on the block since we last chatter?
 
Oh yeah, it's like > Pool {
Name = Default
Pool Type = Backup
}
Sorry, since there's really nothing in it I forgot to post it :P
 
@voretaq7 Yeah, hence the sadness. It's been changed.
 
@Ethabelle heh I was talking about a Pool= resource in the client (see my comment to your comment on the question)
 
blueberry pomegranate gatorade is disgusting. fyi.
 
4:13 PM
that's the only wonky thing I see -- if you add that in the director should run and you can test the rest by running a full / diff / inc job and making sure it writes to the correct pools
@lsiunsuex gatorade is disgusting, and not that great at rehydrating you.
 
Oh ... Well then. Let me add it and see!
 
Okay, drive-by downvoter, I poured my soul (however evil, and shrivelled a cat's soul is) into this, and then you go and make kitty sad four months later: serverfault.com/questions/378722/…
 
If that is what has been wrong... and why I've been pulling my hair...
I will accept this defeat with great poise and weep privately in my bedroom.
 
Wow, three rows of participants in here. Seriously ya'll, we're really not doing a good enough job at being outrageously offensive.
 
@WesleyDavid . . . .
 
4:15 PM
Need moar YellingBird
 
@voretaq7 So under client a Pool = default should be good enough?
 
@Adrian I was thinking the same thing.
 
i can be offensive - who wants to discuss irregular bowel movements ?
 
I'd really like to see @rob_t_firefly wear this more often. http://twitpic.com/ac5ko7
@Ethabelle yeah that should satisfy it.
 
@lsiunsuex Dude, you're in Buffalo. Folks there raise offensive to an art form.
 
4:16 PM
@WesleyDavid ^ Check the link
 
@lsiunsuex That's not offensive, that's juvenile.
 
haha
 
@voretaq7 That's not offensive, that's Broadway.
Wait... that's offensive.
 
@WesleyDavid THIS is Juvenile
 
define offensive then - photos of cats' assholes ?
 
4:18 PM
 
@JoelESalas Winning!
@lsiunsuex Dogballs.
 
I've had a lovely day whizzing around in NX-OS doing some FC config - quite a nice quiet day
 
Oh man. The director was not pleased with that...
I had to delete all of centos13 references to get it to come back up.
Bacula, Y U NO LIEK ME?
 
@Ethabelle It does. It thought you were neglecting it.
 
4:25 PM
@Ethabelle mrrr?!?
did it at least give you an error message?
 
@Chopper3 I've been doing the new "intro to FC and FICON" courses that Brocade added since I last checked their site
low level, 3 hours, and free online
 
@voretaq7 Nope, which is the cute part.
I bconsole'd that shizz looking for hope and it was like 'NO HOPE FOR YOU' :(
Rude logs.
 
@Ethabelle Can you pastebin the entire config?
All three
 
@Ethabelle whaaaaat?!?
yeah I'll try loading them on my dev box and see if it chokes too
it should at least be giving an error -- you may have found a Genuine Bacula Bug
 
@JoelESalas Well, the main lines are posted on the thread that would be causing the problem-o.
@voretaq7 That would be... awesome. __ I've always wanted to post a bug report.
And be like 'LOOKWHATIFOUND'.
But first, organizing. Perhaps it's a case sensitive thing somehwere.
 
4:30 PM
@Ethabelle . . . and hear the developers curse wildly
 
@Ethabelle Are you running debian by any chance
 
@Ethabelle possible but that would be a bug too :-) The Bacula directives aren't case-sensitive (though names might be)
 
@JoelESalas Fedora 16
 
@Ethabelle and it is a recent bacula right? :-)
 
4:34 PM
@Ethabelle It's over-rated. At least it's not Ubuntu, where the average time for non-critical bugs is 18 months.
 
@voretaq7 Yeah :] ! I did this a month ago! It's 5.7 or what not.
 
@Adrian it's non-critical, fix it in the next LTS. Seems reasonable
 
They were using rsync which was fine ... but didn't say enough in my opinion which is why I lurve Bacula.
 
@Ethabelle 5.2.10 is the latest but I don't think any of the problems you're having are related to fixes since 5.0
 
@voretaq7 5.2.10, right-o.
 
4:37 PM
hey @ChrisS have you used the built-in bsnmp in FreeBSD at all?
 
@voretaq7 I'm still pissed off about the conscious decision they made to have Gnome monitor trash folders in NFS mounts. Load average goes up to 2x the logged-in user count within after the first non-responsive trash check.
This is a problem on a server with 40 logged-in users.
 
@Adrian It's ubuntu - who uses NFS?
 
@voretaq7 It's that or a clustered FS is you have multiple LTSP servers.
 
@MikeyB I don't think I see Access on that.
 
@84104 Using Access gives you something appropriate for an Access database: NAPPIE
Is anyone here squicked out by medical images?
 
4:42 PM
@MikeyB of humans or aliens
 
@MikeyB I don't understand. I think that might be a good thing in this case.
 
So apparently a virus can cause an extra membrane to grow in your eye. Poor wife has been suffering for a couple weeks. Unfortunately it's not a useful eyelid.
 
@MikeyB That is upsetting.
 
Ah well, off home so we can get ready for daughter's party. Cheers!
 
@MikeyB what do you call that virus?
 
4:54 PM
@voretaq7 I've never had a need, so I've started setting it up in the past and lost interest half way though ever time. The documentation seems, less than ideal.
 
I just got my mountain lion up-to-date code
two days later
after I've already bought it
wtf apple
 
@MikeyB Interesting... What do they do for that? Pull it out, cut it off?
Holy crap! How the F--- do manufacturers get away with call those things "safes"?!
 
 
@MDMarra Now get a retina display!
 
@ChrisS Like everything else. Buy your way into a captive market by paying enough politicians to write legislation custom-tailored for you?
 
5:06 PM
@ChrisS maybe the kid's just a master safe-cracker
 
@Adrian The company is getting sued right now over it... Apparently their previous design had the same problem, that was sued, won, recalled. But the new design has the exact same problem. Simply dropping one side of the safe opens the locking mechanism!!!
@JoelESalas There's more details from the company that put that video together. The first two safes have a very bad design, with a spring holding the lock shut. Dropping the safe is enough to overpower the spring.
 
@ChrisS Does a regular safe suffer from the same vulnerability? Why not put your firearms in one of those instead
 
@ChrisS Not surprised. I'm of the opinion that anything built after 1980 is shit unless proven otherwise.
 
@ChrisS That's a big problem. These things are meant to keep their contents away from 3 year olds...
 
@JoelESalas These safes were issued to Clark County Sheriffs in Vancouver, WA; and the officer's kid opened the safe this way and shot himself (died 4 hours later).
 
5:09 PM
@Adrian Including people
@ChrisS Holy shit, that's terrible
 
That's the mechamism there. You can see the solenoid that unlocks the safe (black thing, bottom center). When dropped the solenoid opens, and stays unlocked until the circuity re-locks the safe.
 
@JoelESalas We'll see. My GF thinks that won't be a problem anymore since most of them smoke like chimneys and they'll be dead by 40.
 
@ewwhite meh
When they put them on the Air I will
At home, I'm usually hooked into an external display in clamshell mode anyway
Which is why I'm considering a sketchy ebay Korean IPS panel
 
@ChrisS Never trust a safe that does not have a fully mechanical locking mechanism.
 
@voretaq7 Well the issue is that people never bother to look. That mechanism is usually covered by a plastic plate. People just assume that the "safe" is secure... It's not ever close to a good design. They obviously made no effort at all to design the lock as a "safe" mechanism.
 
5:21 PM
@ChrisS bsnmp seems like a pain in the ass to extend compared to net-snmp, but net-snmp has strange behavioral issues sometimes, and a major memory leak
@ChrisS no, it's a cheap mechanism, not a safe one. Cam and follower costs too much apparently
 
@voretaq7 I never got bsnmp to run correctly. I'm not sure if I just was doing something dumb or what the case was.
 
I love it when OPs forget to put crucial limitations or design goals in their networking questions. sigh
 
@ChrisS I got it to run and return the standard host-resources stuff, but couldn't get it to deal with my extensions like alerting for Bacula errors
 
@Ethabelle oh yeah, did you want me for something?
 
@voretaq7 Just a double solenoid mechanism, putting one on top and and one on the bottom would fix most of the problem....
 
5:23 PM
@ChrisS I have problems with solenoids as locking mechanisms because... well... they're NOT :-)
 
@voretaq7 One of these days when I've got time I want to get it running. I've got a few BSD servers around and would like something more than the weekly periodic report.
 
@ChrisS I just install net-snmp from ports
 
@Chopper3 Oh, I see teh ewwhite made mention of things! I'm doing a startup and they want to do HTTP streaming-like thing. So.. I had a lengthy question if you wouldn't mind. Could I potentially e-mail?
 
net-snmp is AWESOME (shell scripts to add stuff to the OID tree? YES PLEASE!
It just has bugs (like memory leaks if you use said shell scripts)
 
@Ethabelle sure
 
5:24 PM
@voretaq7 I might end up doing that, but still haven't done it before, so... learning experience.
 
@ChrisS I need to learn SNMPv3 authentication - I still use v2c everywhere with community strings
 
@Ethabelle HTTP steaming - ick. Someone break out the RTSP please!
 
the daemon part is easy tho - it's the shit that polls it and turns it into something useful that's got a major learning curve. Part of why I love intermapper even though it costs money :-)
 
@voretaq7 If you find a good learning reference share with the rest of us. =]
 
hmm, if my dev environment deployment continues to insist on one server at a time maybe I'll write up a CW question/answer
 
5:27 PM
@ChrisS depends how you do it, we only do HTTP or fragmented-H.264 multicast - never been near RTSP
 
or a blog post -- not sure how long it will wind up being :P
I haven't written a blog post since SOPA/PIPA -- I guess I'm due for one of those
 
@Chopper3 That seems like a shame. But you're running MS software too. =]
 
@Ethabelle you don't need a private chat for that, everyone know it - it's phil at buckley-mellor dot com ok
 
@Chopper3 Muchas gracias senor.
 
@ChrisS We care more about video codec quality than anything else and RTSP just sucks
 
5:29 PM
Hello all
 
@JustinDearing WSDL WSDL!
 
@Chopper3 RTSP rocks, the server implementations I've seen all suck...
 
who let you out of the programmer pen?
 
The client implementations aren't much better either.
 
not for scale, try doing RTSP at exactly 25fps over a 1.55Mbps QoS'ed line to over a million unicast users - painful
 
5:31 PM
@Chopper3 oh so you drop a few frames - …worst …happen …zombies!
 
Not sure this guy is giving props to die antwoord the "band".
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A: Export policy configuration from eTrust ITM 8.1

KetelkontDie antwoord is diep binne in jou ma se poes?

 
@Chopper3 That's what multicast was made for. I do appreciate that the software and implementations aren't there, so you really have not choice. It's just frustrating that someone academically solved the "problem" and nobody uses it.
 
we NEVER drop a frame, our first design-goal is to give a TV-like experience not a youtube-like one
 
Translate that for extra lolz.
 
@Chopper3 pfft well you're doing it wrong then - TV around here drops frames ALL THE TIME! And what would I do without my digital artifacts from missing key frames?!? :-)
 
5:33 PM
@ChrisS and how do you do multicast nationally to EVERYONE? you do what did and get the backbone upgraded as part of a £12BN 5 year project - then you can do it and we are now
 
This experience of consistent video and audio staying in sync and not glitching confuses and frightens the American TV viewer!
 
@voretaq7 Anyone can do crappy VOD, it takes cash to make it look like TV
 
@Chopper3 and a video toaster to insert the glitches in real-time? :)
actually @Chopper3 do you guys have a video toaster somewhere in the company?
 
we have this thing called a 'Universal Service Provision' that we have/try to stick to - we don't offer a product/service to anyone unless everyone in the UK can have it - that adds a tiny bit of complexity
@voretaq7 we have two guys very closely involved in their own time in the UK computer museum (or whatever it's called), I know they have an Amiga but no idea about a VT
 
we don't have that problem (with anything over an IP network) in the US :-)
 
5:35 PM
Anyone here had much dealing with startssl free certs?
 
@84104 Yep, I use them for my personal site.
 
@84104 my personal site runs one :)
 
They validate well enough then?
 
and it was endorsed heartily by a google staffer
 
@84104 Every browser and smartphone from the last few years, no problems.
 
5:37 PM
imperialviolet.org/2012/07/19/hope9talk.html (for anyone who might have been interested in the SSL talk from HOPE 9 who wasn't there and doesn't follow me on twitter)
 
Sounds good.
 
I had a problem with someone who was using XP (no SPs) and IE 5 (or maybe it was 6)... But I told them it was their problem, not mine.
 
@ChrisS anyone running an un-SP'd XP doesn't deserve to be on the internet :)
in fact I think we should hack all routers to do an IP stack fingerprint and if you're an unpatched XP box they blackhole your packets.
 
@voretaq7 Yeah, I just gave them a dirty look and told them it wasn't my problem and they'd have to deal with it.
 
@ChrisS ...and then you null-routed their network? :)
 
5:41 PM
Nope, I think their computer exploded in a puff of smoke a week later and I never had to deal with that again. =]
 
@ChrisS XP ships with IE6. Why did this person not have SPs installed?
 
@ChrisS "Died of embarrassment" <-- ?
 
@JustinDearing I don't know and I wasn't going to find out.
 
@ChrisS @JustinDearing Insufficient disk space to expand the SP? :)
 
As someone who knows how to fix darn near everything on personal computers you quickly become aware of the fact that if anyone learns of this ability they'll never leave you alone for as long as you live.
 
5:44 PM
@ChrisS @voretaq7 fully patched XP ain't a bad OS with a third party browser, no excuse to run it SP-less
 
@JustinDearing XP and 7 are fine operating systems
 
@JustinDearing I wont touch XP anymore. It's outdated, antiquated, insecure, and generally archaic. Kill it with fire.
 
XP doesn't have quick search built into the start menu. It's dead to me
 
@MDMarra try this if your forced to use XP: launchy.net
Honestly I'm looking forward to Windows 8. The UI is a bit weird, if you know keyboartd shortcuts little muscle memory relearning
 
@MDMarra I love that I can do <kbd>Windows Key</kbd> then a short sting of characters and <kbd>Enter</kbd> and run 90% of the programs I regularly use.
 
5:58 PM
@voretaq7 How would I use CCC to RESTORE a backed-up disk image
 
@JoelESalas Been a long time since I've used it, but IIRC you plug the target drive in to a Mac (that's running and has the backup accessible) and the GUI had an option to restore onto that drive
If you're thinking about implementing radmind or something to manage the environment though I wouldn't worry about the initial install -- scripted OS X install, install the management software client, and bonk on the deploy button
 
@voretaq7 Awesome, I'll try that. These are only in my care for a few days so radmind isn't necessary
 
@JustinDearing Have they fixed the bit where when you RDP into a remote machine with Metro, <win> doesn't work on the remote host?
 
@MDMarra I don't know I never RDPed from Windows * cause I always run it from a VM
 
6:11 PM
@MDMarra Pretty sure it works, I was impressed by how complete the RDP experience was connecting to a Metro host
 
Marathon interview. Hour four.
 
@ewwhite Go go go!
 
@JoelESalas mrr?
@ewwhite Google? :)
@ChrisS What kind of stuff would you like to see covered in an SNMP blog post?
 
9 more people to meet...
 
@voretaq7 Not donateware anymore
 
6:14 PM
@JoelESalas heh -well developers gotta eat too...
 
6:27 PM
@jscott because the weather got better and I wanted to do a few jumps :p
 
@LucasKauffman :) Cool, hope you had fun.
 
yea was nice :)
 
@WesleyDavid :(
 
@LucasKauffman didjya flag it or do you not want your marshal badge? :)
 
@voretaq7 I already have the badge :p
I'm out of flags for today
 
6:31 PM
bleh that question is awful actually. ::HEADSHOT::
 
I'd flag that.
 
@voretaq7 They do eat! Ramen, that is
 
@JoelESalas guess what's on my stove getting warm atm :o
 
@JoelESalas someone did a study and proved that trying to live of Ramen would kill you :)
 
@voretaq7 uhoh
:(
why's that actually?
 
6:34 PM
@LucasKauffman well they were talking about Top Ramen
or scary radioactive noodles in a cup
 
ah no I make mines fresh with a nice miso :)
 
and there's insufficient nutritional value in them -- it's 99.9% salt, carbs and water, almost no protein, no vegetables/fiber...
yeah fresh ramen with some miso, vegetables, maybe a little seafood of some kind -- that you could probably live on
though if you don't go easy on the noodles you'll wind up a fat-ass
 
chicken, spring onions and some seaweed
I only add a bit to it
 
@voretaq7 That much salt will probably kill you anyway
 
@voretaq7 Link! I need to show this to everyone I know
 
6:36 PM
@JoelESalas searching...
@Adrian not right away
bah can't find a link
though many message board threads discussing how long you could survive
 
@voretaq7 We'll just take it as True Internet Legend
 
@JoelESalas works for me
Submit it to Cecil Adams or Ripley's
 
@voretaq7 Penn and Teller?
 
@JoelESalas Only if Teller talks.
 
I think this guy should get together with Joey Buttafuoco and open a collection agency. You get a dunning letter from Momofuku & Buttafuoco, you know you're going to put a check in the return mail,"
lol
 
6:45 PM
so last week a friend contacted me (haven't talked to her since her brother died las year) asking if i know how to write iphone apps. yes, i replied - and whats the general idea and do you have capital
tells me the idea - some bullshit fashion shopping app and her step brother is gonna back her - ok. i progress to tell her everything she needs to do. need a server, database, website, hosting, ios license, need to build the content, blah blah blah - like 3 pages of shit she needs to do in order to even see this come to life
haven't heard from her since :)
my point is; everyone has a great idea at one time or another (not saying this was a great idea) - once they realize wtf it actually takes, their not so motivated anymore :)
 
those are the type of people that only talk to you when they need something
 
and those are the type of people where the quote comes out to about $10k usd w/ 50% down 50% upon delivery - cause if i'm doing ALL of the work, i'm sure as fuck getting paid for it
 
@lsiunsuex I had a similar pitch from a friend's mom. She wanted to create a website where you could pick outfits based on what's in your closet, and a picture of yourself.
Two obvious issues right off the bat: 1. People are terrible at measuring themselves, 2. There's no way anyone could take high-quality pictures of themselves OR their clothes
 
people think its a few lines of code, a little graphic work and its done!
this thing i'm working on with the dentists - i've been in development for 8 months now - (finally going live august 20th no matter what - school starts then) - numerous revisions to each section, atleast 1 meeting every week with the dentist. constant communication every step of the way. brought on a 2nd server to separate FMS from the rest of the server
 
the green mile or family man?
 
6:56 PM
?
 
need to pick a ovie
 
to watch? family man
 
@lsiunsuex FMS == Flash Media Server?
 
yeah
 
This is making me laugh REALLY hard
 
6:58 PM
whats the blue box? only one i dont get
solaris ?
 
@lsiunsuex It represents virtualbox
 
thought that, but didnt think it fit the rest of the picture
 
@lsiunsuex ... It's from virtualbox.org
 
right, i know - but virtual box is a VM and the rest are os's
 
@JoelESalas what's the blue fire?
or is that not representative of anything?
and where's the frakkin' blowfish?!?
 
7:01 PM
fire == android - all the os's are trying to resurrect it from the grave
 
freakn fuze blew
 
@lsiunsuex bah
NEEDS MOAR BLOWFISH!
 
@voretaq7 OpenBSD 5. Bombastic Blowfish.
 
@WesleyDavid that was from 3.something actually
 
Really, I totally just made that up stream-of-conscious.
all my ideas are several years too late. =(
 
7:07 PM
that's not ALL the mascots/art, but a good chunk of them
 
I'm speechless. Which isn't easy to do.
 
wait there's actually CD's?
 
@LucasKauffman CDs ARE PROPRIETARY THE BSD PROJECT IS A FAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!
Oh wait, I thought we were talking about RMS/Debian. Nevermind.
 
@WesleyDavid Debian is not approved by rms
 
@JoelESalas RMS isn't approved by RMS.
 
7:11 PM
@WesleyDavid His genome is open-source
 
@LucasKauffman For OpenBSD? yeah. It's how they fund development.
@JoelESalas The first person to invoke RMS in an argument automatically loses. Godwin's other law.
 
@WesleyDavid thats right, RMS has at some point inhaled Montesato pollen. BTW what ever happened with his passport and laptop being stolen?
 
(there's a carefully crafted exception for referring to him as being Batshit Crazy)
 
Right now in hell Hitler is thinking, "At least I'm not RMS"
2
 
Just got asked to look at why out dev team's test lab is always "warm"
 
7:13 PM
@JustinDearing Let's see his birth certificate! I BET HE'S NOT EVEN MERRYCAN!!! Oh wait, wrong controversy.
Man I'm straight up tripping today.
 
AC rated for 22k BTUs. Servers rated for 54k BTUs.
 
@JustinDearing I just about spewed my tea with that one.
 
@JustinDearing Do you think he's jealous that Satan is shacking up with Saddam now?
@WesleyDavid A MEERKAT! FUCKYEAH!
 
for some reason I can't think/find an answer on this one:
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Q: How to prevent use of `w` and `who` on shared webhosts

Tom MarthenalWe are in the process of setting up a hosting machine that clients will have SSH access to. We don't want them to be able to see a list of user accounts, but the problem we have run into are commands like w and who. We could disable those, but then they could just bring their own binary. I just ...

I know how to disable the command but not how to prevent users from seeing other users
 
@LucasKauffman well there's one answer on there that's plausible
though I don't know about unintended side effects
 
7:17 PM
I think the MeekRat needs to be able to to see Mexico from his house.
 
speaking of startups - anyone know a good place to buy email lists?
 
I might have some lying around, I made a backup from all the anonymous attacks
 
@lsiunsuex . . . I should kick you for being a spammer :)
but instead I'll offer you some lists for $0.001 per address
 
its a legit question - my startup targets dental students
 
@lsiunsuex we all know where those lists come from
we all receive emails of them
 
7:19 PM
? i don't - seriously
 
@lsiunsuex spaaaaaaaaammer! points and hisses
:-P
 
some for selling viagra, penis pumps or even Nigerian princes offering gold. I guess dental students are the next thing
 
@lsiunsuex Remember, we're usually willing to help, but always reserve the right to mock. =)
 
@lsiunsuex if your startup targets Dental students you shouldn't have an issue advertising at dental schools
 
@lsiunsuex Yeah, I think onesource is legit. I know how it goes. for my own consultancy I've wanted to buy leads for very targetted businesses to pitch them an idea or two.
 
7:22 PM
@lsiunsuex Pick a local dental school, get attractive looking communication majors as free interns. Send them there
 
we don't have a problem targeting schools - but targeting schools outside of > 300 miles is a bitch - one of the biggest ones in the usa is in my city; but i can't bring on vendors until my user base is significant - > 1000 students
 
@lsiunsuex are you in stealth mode or can you share the name of this company?
 
surprisingly - there are only 60 dental schools in the usa (61 with puerto rico) - < 14k in school / residency at a given time
stealth mode still - august 20th i go live (hopefully)
 
what will your startup do?
 
provide students education and access to residencies that they may not have access to in school or their school doesn't cover it or theres no time to cover it in school
 
7:25 PM
@JustinDearing emphasis on ATTRACTIVE interns...
@lsiunsuex Your best bet honestly would be contacting the schools and asking for their student lists - you'll find a few that are willing to give/sell that info pretty freely
 
my dentist friend (dude who commisioned me to do this) has connections to 12 of the schools
i'm greedy and want all of them right off of the bat :)
like i said, i can't start to make money till i hit a critical mass of students - more the better
not just professors - he knows the deans
so, we're in - but i'm impatient :)
new students - first day of dental school they have to become a member of the ASDA - we're convincing the deans to have them sign up at our website also on that day
(they pay for the asda membership - no choice - they won't pay for ours)
 
@voretaq7 with good but not overbleached smiles.
 
wonder if i can search facebook for people that attend dental school
 
@lsiunsuex yes you can, but actually LinkedIn might be a better way to go.
 
id think more students would have a facebook profile than a linkedin profile - as a student. maybe once they become a dentist they have linkedin
i'll setup a facebook acct for the website - find all the dental schools on facebook - friend everyone who's friends with those schools - on go live date - tell the world
 
7:41 PM
@lsiunsuex god you've been hanging out with the "I wanna build a facebook killer" users again haven't you? :P
 
no, the cool kids hang out with the php programmers :) (ducks)
we know what happens when someone wants to build a facebook killer - joindiaspora.com
or worse - g+ :)
 
@lsiunsuex They still haven't gotten that turkey off the ground yet, eh?
 
which one ? diaspora or g+ ? :)
 
I thought Diaspora was an indy table top RPG?
 
no - think social network with a decentralized backbone like torrents
 
7:45 PM
@lsiunsuex Diaspora. G+ was DOA since 2 weeks after it came out they decided it was an identity service and not social networking. Hell, I think their API is STILL read-only.
 
good idea - execution was shit
g+ is OK but its like changing america to the metric system. why? everyone uses whatever the f' u want to call what we use. same thing. g+ could be plated in gold and studed with diamonds - but everyone uses facebook
 
I'll be cranky if G+ goes popular. Right now it's the exact level of chatter that I want from the people I'm interested in. And I don't have to worry about my 14 year old cousins sending me friend requests.
 
either way. later guys.
 
Sweet dreams.
 
laterz
 
7:50 PM
@ScottPack I deleted my G+ profile about a month ago
 
@Iain Yeah, I'm annoyed at how little it gets used considering I was forced to turn on a whole bunch of various Google things I'd previously turned off just to be able to use G+.
 
I had many of the regulars on here but if it wasn't for stackexchange spamming It would have been tumbleweed
 
I usually get about 2-3 updates a day on it, which is about my sweetspot.
 
@JoshGitlin you really need a new ISP if they can't/won't block the attack for you
 
I've known I need a new ISP for over a year
The problem is, moving 500+ domains is less than trivial
:-(
 
7:57 PM
by the time the packets get to you to your bandwidth is used
 
@Iain they can block the attack... for an extra $500/mo
@Iain I know! I am really not happy right now!
They won't even unplug the ethernet cable for me. I was hoping maybe that would cause the DDoS attackers to move on to someone else
Sorry, just upset :-/
 

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