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Both allow network pass-through of another device such as a printer or workstation. Is this an acceptable solution that won't cause loss of desktop icons

Wesley

5:19 PM

Violets are blue
Roses are red
I think lost are you
potato

Iain

@Wesley very vogonesque

Wesley

@Iain Okay so I'm no ee cummings

Anonymous

If I developed a hue-shifting metamaterial, I would photobomb people's Instagram pics with a sheet of material that precisely undid the filter they were using.

Wesley

And I figured out my account balance. Linked In charge I forgot to document.

Michael Hampton

Ahh, sushi delivery. I love the modern world.

HopelessN00b

5:29 PM

@MichaelHampton "Sushi delivery?" Isn't that just a hipster term for "fishing?"

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b No, fishing doesn't include a sushi chef...

Wesley

@kce How's your burgeoning XP botnet coming along?

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton "Sushi chef" sounds like another one of those fancy terms for something simple, too. Like "guy with a knife and a dead fish."

MikeyB

roses are red
violets are blue
lsof will help find
dangling inodes for you

Wesley

Dude, between you and @cole's 1000+ XP machines you could make some serious black market bank by renting out access to them all. What's a few million Cialis spam messages when you can pocket some $$$

@MikeyB Dangling inodes are the reason I prefer boxer-briefs.

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Chris S

5:46 PM

Where's Ed?

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS Behind the camera?

Wesley

@ChrisS What's the story?

tombull89

Next to the kitchen. Nice.

Chris S

@Wesley No story, just something for his collection of OMG, WTF IT

Wesley

@ChrisS Is that in your org, or something you found on The Daily WTF? =P

Chris S

5:49 PM

@Wesley Found - My rack is fairly well organized.

Wesley

Oh wow. Oh wowowowow

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Q: Is running our workstation network through VoIP handset best practice?

We are purchasing a Cisco UC VoIP phone system and the handsets come in two flavors: 100mb and 1gb. Both allow network pass-through of another device such as a printer or workstation. Is this an acceptable solution that won't cause loss of desktop icons or slow bandwidth if a call comes in? I und...

> Is this an acceptable solution that won't cause loss of desktop icons or slow bandwidth if a call comes in?

cole

Is today over yet?

Wesley

What does that even mean?!

@cole In Soviet Russia, yes. But so is life.

Chris S

Gotta love the blinkin lightsen
I should go take some good photos...

HopelessN00b

@Wesley Means another clueless jackass decided to use ServerFault as an answer machine/free consulting service.

Wesley

5:52 PM

@NathanC How did you end up on that comment thread suddenly speaking in first person as if you were part of that original post?

EXPLAIN YOURSELF, FIEND! =P

Nathan C

@Wesley er...wha?

Wesley

We run two lines...depending on the amount of traffic, we didn't want to run into the potential of overwhelming the switches. — Nathan C 22 mins ago

It just seemed like you started talking mid-conversation and I couldn't figure out the flow of the comments.

You said "we didn't want to run into the potential of overwhelming the switches" like you had said something previously in the comment thread, but you hadn't. I got confused.

@NathanC I am not a clever cat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

how to sleep with blinkenlights in your room

Nathan C

Ouch...apparently training for the CISSP exam is $2k

The exam itself is $600...so $1.4k for the training if I wanted it O.o

Wesley

6:03 PM

@NathanC That's still way less than most training.

Most any IT related course is $2500 to $3500 for 3 to 5 days. Any relevant exam may or may not be included.

cole

God I'm so useless today, even more so than yesterday.

Wesley

@cole And that's why it's good to be salaried.

cole

@Wesley indeed.

Trying to figure out how to unfuck our file server permissions.

some shit has absolutely no AD domain perms and just the NT4 domain

Wesley

@cole Ew.

cole

@Wesley yeah and it's a few TBs of shit and lots of folders.

Any......suggestions?

Wesley

6:05 PM

@cole Fling poo.

But really, I dunno.

Anonymous

@cole 777

Anonymous

worksforme.gif

cole

@PatoSáinz it's Windows

@Wesley that's my best guess

Nathan C

@cole Everyone: Full Control

Wesley

@cole Is it more an organization question of "who gets what" or is it a technical issue of how to apply permissions en mass in the proper way?

Nathan C

6:06 PM

problemsolved.jpg

cole

@NathanC good plan

Anonymous

@cole oh i see what your problem is then

cole

@PatoSáinz augh I hate when people are "elitist" about using Linux vs Windows.

Linux and Windows both have their places. End of fucking story. I'm not wave my e-peen around that one is better than the other.

Wesley

@cole I know. Every OS sucks. It's just a matter of what default filesystem your sucky OS prefers to run on.

cole

@Wesley exactly.

MikeyB

6:07 PM

@cole nuke it from orbit and come up with a new permission policy and apply that.

Nathan C

Uh oh...SQL Server fell over (???)

cole

ctrl + a + delete - solved.

Wesley

@cole Because determining how to organize files based on organizational needs is really a management decision, and that can be a total mindfuck.

Nathan C

iSCSI targets didn't come up again

cole

@Wesley there's no organization. Good thing is it looks like we're going to move some of the more sensitive data like finance, HR, etc to a different server.

@NathanC you done broke it

Kevin Soviero

6:09 PM

@NathanC EMC?

Wesley

Years ago I came into a small business that had lots of files from 20 years of operation and the idea was to organize their files and clamp down a little bit on permissions. It became such a cluster that there was just two permissions groups made. Read and read/write. For everything.

Nathan C

@KevinSoviero No...Synology. For some reason Windows isn't automatically connecting them

cole

@Wesley mostly ours are like that

Kevin Soviero

@NathanC Isn't that the consumer brand for homes?

Wesley

They're fine with it because the alternative is organizing their entire collection of digital assets and that was way more time and effort than they were interested in.

@KevinSoviero Synology is SMB stuff. Same as QNAP.

Kevin Soviero

6:10 PM

@Wesley k

Wesley

But yes there are Home / SOHO Synology units.

cole

I need a new mouse for work

Nathan C

It's SMB...and it works fine. I can easily connect the targets manually but the fact it doesn't do it automatically when it says it will is a problem

cole

suggestions anddddddd go

Wesley

@cole Get a laser gaming mouse so you can TF2 at work.

@NathanC Ask @MarkHenderson about his iSCSI QNAP or Synology or whatever. He wants to bash it with a bat.

cole

6:11 PM

I have a Logitech Performance MX right now

Wesley

@cole I'm a mouse neophyte. I use whatever came out of the box with my computer until it breaks. Right now I have a Apple Might Mouse or whatever it's called. Magic Mouse? Not impressed, but I like the gestures and don't want to buy the big trackpad. So I deal with it.

Nathan C

@Wesley steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-kana-v2 i have one of these

works pretty well

Wesley

Way too small for my hand and I have an average sized hand.

No idea how anyone over 6' uses this stupid thing.

MikeyB

@Wesley I do like the Intellimice. If there's anything Microsoft is good at it's rodents.

cole

@NathanC I was looking at those, wasn't sure how solid they were

Nathan C

6:13 PM

They have higher-up ones too if you're so inclined

ewwhite

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A: Are ZFS pools or LVM volume groups more reliable for utilizing many partitions?

I use both. ZFS on Linux has been very good to me, but isn't the "fix all" for every situation. A typical server will look like this: (Remember, I usually use hardware RAID and mostly use ZFS as a flexible volume manager) Hardware RAID with a logical volume comprised of underlying disks. That...

cole

the Performance MX is heavy as shit

Kevin Soviero

@cole Amazon.com > Mice > Average Customer Reviews... Done

Nathan C

@cole I like it. Stands up to abuse, has a couple different CPI settings and can be adjusted with the engine tool

I have one of their LED keyboards too

ewwhite

@ChrisS that's fine. I see no problem with it.

cole

6:14 PM

@NathanC I have a Logitech Wave (K350) keyboard at work. I really like it.

At home I have a CM Storm Quickfire TK & CM Storm Spawn mouse.

Michael Hampton

@cole I have this keyboard at home.

Anonymous

@Wesley then windows uses NTFS

Wesley

Nathan C

I had a wireless mouse, but I didn't see the need for one with a desktop

Anonymous

auto-loose

Wesley

6:15 PM

Look at that. It's ridiculously small.

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Anonymous

also, @Wesley, Plan 9 > everything

mossy

@Wesley share crackers

Wesley

And yes I have a box of Cheese Nips on my desk

Anonymous

@Wesley Apple Products are designed for girly people

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Nathan C

@Wesley Cheese Nips for scale

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ewwhite

6:16 PM

cole

@MichaelHampton I like it - I don't get finger fatigue as much. I definitely get way less w/ the Quickfire TK but I think my coworkers would kill me with how loud it is.

Nathan C

@Wesley Also, starred statement is awesome /r/outofcontext material ;)

Chris S

@ewwhite Your standards are lower than I thought - I'll do better next time.

Wesley

And yes I have a grandma cat coaster on my desk for my coffee

@NathanC Screw you guys, I'm going home.

=P

Kevin Soviero

@NathanC That's why everyone else starred it as well.

Michael Hampton

6:17 PM

@ewwhite I spy with my little eye...something that starts with MODEM

cole

@Wesley you love the abuse.

Wesley

@cole I am a little kinky.

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Chris S

My coffee mug just sits on my desk. No coaster.

cole

@Wesley kinkykats.com

ewwhite

Computer "room"

Nathan C

6:18 PM

@ewwhite Ah, the classic yellowing white color of 20th century electronics

ewwhite

Michael Hampton

If you only had SSLv2 enabled, then you were vulnerable to the hundreds of OTHER security issues you left yourself open to. Heartbleed is the least of your concerns; your data got out by many other ways which were patched years ago. — Michael Hampton ♦ 2 mins ago

I can't believe I just read this.

Chris S

@ewwhite Inkjet! The horror!

cole

@ewwhite I feel like I'm going back in time looking at these.

MikeyB

@ewwhite Hah! So familiar with those Microlines :) (just sold a few)

Anonymous

6:19 PM

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Q: Can I use vodka to clean my keyboard?

I spilled beer on my keyboard a while back, and some of the keys are sticky. It's driving me crazy, and I don't have any isopropyl. Can I use vodka to clean it?

cleaning

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cole

Have I told you guys how much I hate Solaris lately?

ewwhite

I could run all of this on my phone

strugee

@cole do tell

ewwhite

cole

@strugee makes me want to punch myself in the face

MikeyB

6:21 PM

@cole Tell us about it man.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite You'll have to jailbreak it first.

strugee

@PatoSáinz aw man - I saw this yesterday; I could have gotten stars

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Wesley

@cole No no no, punch your fist with your face. For style.

MikeyB

@ewwhite The top border is a nice touch.

strugee

@cole why?

I've never used it...

Anonymous

6:22 PM

@strugee there you go

strugee

@PatoSáinz \o/

Wesley

Star all the @strugee things!!

cole

They removed the flash archive option in Solaris 11 (was available in 10) - which made migrations way easier. Now it's going to be much more of a PITA to get this migration going.

OH GOD ALL THE STARS

Chris S

@MichaelHampton Wasn't that the mid-2000s that browsers started preferring SSLv3? I can't remember the last time I saw a browser that even supported SSLv2

ewwhite

@MikeyB It was a strange produce house of horrors... the client locked me in for the night.

Anonymous

6:23 PM

Little star, could you be mine, could you be mine

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS IE6 supports it...

ewwhite

strugee

@Wesley yasssssssss

Michael Hampton

And I think that's about the time we started disabling it.

Chris S

@MichaelHampton It worries me that you knew so quickly.

Michael Hampton

6:24 PM

@ChrisS My focus has been web sites for close to a decade.

cole

so just using icacls.exe to look at permissions on this file server - I'm fucked

Def just had a minor network blip

Anonymous

QEMU 2.0.0 Released

Joel E Salas

@PatoSáinz GET SOME

84104

@cole icacls * /T /reset?

MikeyB

* Live snapshot merging
oh thank god

Anonymous

6:30 PM

haha

cole

@84104 no just lots of NT4 shit

MikeyB

*performs storage migration*
"Aw fuck, now there's a snapshot I can't get rid of without shutting down the guest and waiting for it to merge. DAMMIT!"
#ovirtproblems

84104

@cole I am thankful I have no idea what that means.

MikeyB

@cole Most people got rid of NT4 before half the people in this room were born

Anonymous

@MikeyB r/firstworldproblems

cole

6:32 PM

@84104 all the perms are from the NT4 domain on most of these.

@MikeyB I know.

Wesley

@MikeyB Disregard NT4, acquire FlexOS

Anonymous

jamesdonnelly.github.io/Isotopic256

Anonymous

^Isotopic 256

Anonymous

A chemist's 2048

84104

@cole Have I told you how much I hate Solaris lately? SunOS WhyWontYouJustDieAlready 5.6 Generic_105181-05 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-250

cole

6:36 PM

@84104 this is our last refresh w/ using Solaris. We're moving to Linux in ~4 years.

MikeyB

@84104 scdn-discourse.r.worldssl.net/uploads/default/2408/… (gif)

cole

@MikeyB I feel like that right now

MikeyB

@cole Hey dude! If you happen to have any of the Sun Type 6 USB keyboards lying around, send 'em my way :D I'll love you forever.

Basil

I heard we're moving SAP's application servers to Linux, but they're using VMWare for the linux images for some reason.

cole

@MikeyB I'll check in the back room - just for you.

MikeyB

6:38 PM

@cole Mine's approaching... at least 10 years old now.

cole

@MikeyB snap

my life:

Nathan C

Regretting requesting a quote from the infosec institute for training stuff...2 phone calls and a couple emails in the space of an hour

cole

@NathanC whoa

Chris S

Turn up?

Nathan C

@cole This is after I told them I was only curious about prices...pretty aggressive lol

It's great and all that you really want me to do the training, but my wallet says otherwise. :p

Chris S

6:41 PM

Had the same thing happen when I wanted a quote from Met Life for life insurance. Had to tell them to stop calling 3 times before they actually stopped.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I got cold called today by somebody trying to convince me he could get me hotel nights cheaper than anywhere else. I almost fell sorry for them when I told them where I work :)

Jacob

@DennisKaarsemaker I assume you get a better deal than everyone else?

Chris S

@DennisKaarsemaker LOL - That's priceless!

cole

@DennisKaarsemaker were they like "uh..oh."

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Jacob I get "genius" deals, like normal loyal customers

Jacob

6:43 PM

@DennisKaarsemaker Booking isn't all that popular in the US, but the parent company is huge.

Anonymous

@DennisKaarsemaker do you work at Airbnb?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Jacob we're growing though. Can't share numbers, but some others are worried :)

Jacob

@DennisKaarsemaker Booking is owned by Priceline, and they're big here.

ewwhite

true

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Jacob hah. I can quote public statements, and no, parent company isn't huge. We're the majority of the revenue :)

PCLN has more mindshare, because of shatner. But we're advertising as well now

Basil

6:45 PM

hey @DennisKaarsemaker, would it be prudent for me to ask you for advice before booking rooms for my sister's wedding in Switzerland?

Jacob

@DennisKaarsemaker Priceline is the big brand in the US atleast. I see an ad several times for that, and only a few of booking. That and Booking ads are terrible.

Nathan C

@Jacob Expedia is pretty big too

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Basil I can forward that question to our account managers for recommendations. Which city is she looking for?

Nathan C

I go through them for my stuff (which is rare...but eh)

ewwhite

@Jacob My wife was really upset when she tried to browse to Booking.YEAH last week and got an error

Basil

6:46 PM

@DennisKaarsemaker It's just me and my wife, and just one room for a few nights

Jacob

@ewwhite NXDOMAIN

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite when that ad just aired, someone in marketing urgently requested us to register booking.ye :)

Basil

I think that would be too small for a real person to spend time on

Dennis Kaarsemaker

but that's not possible (mandatory second level domain)

ewwhite

heh

Dennis Kaarsemaker

6:48 PM

@Basil you don't know if you don't ask :)

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker So we had a bedroom discussion about top-level domains...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite your love life is pathetic :P

AUGH

Fucking Lotus Notes.

6:49 PM

@cole your love live is more pathetic than @ewwhite's if you're fucking that...

Jacob

I assumed that Booking registered the yeah gTLD?

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker well, it was regarding the booking of a ~~sex hotel~~ nice place to stay in Seattle for her birthday.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite hmm, let me link you to our incoming photostream. Add a "caucasian skin color" filter and you'll find one soon enough...

(seriously, we get some creepy photos...)

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker it's only because film is racist!!!

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Wesley

6:55 PM

@DennisKaarsemaker Plz to be sharing.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Wesley

@DennisKaarsemaker Someone somewhere accepted that challenge and succeeded.

@DennisKaarsemaker In a topic only slightly less related to inappropriate masturbation, did you go to college? Did you get a CompSci degree?

Chris S

>While that calculator won't help me learn the material, it looks like a great tool to use for checking my answers.
Am I completely out in left field thinking - If you can't learn something from a calculator that produces the right answers, then you probably shouldn't be going into the IT field??

Wesley

Curious what your experience was in Zee Nederlands Compsci courses.

@ChrisS No link to the original?

Chris S

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Q: IP Address Basics

I am struggling with identifying the Network/Prefix, IP Address Range, Broadcast Address, and Network Mask. I have an example calculated out for the most part, just need to identify each piece. If I could get help with just the first two, I would be able to understand the rest. My first two net...

ip-address

HopelessN00b

6:58 PM

@ChrisS WRT to... what? Like a subnet calculator?

Chris S

@HopelessN00b yes, in this case

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Wesley yes. BSc and unfinished MSc. Dropped out before doing thesis

Chris S

But in general... If you're trying to figure out a system, and you can't figure out anything just by poking at it....

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