@tombull89 MS said that the preview is not ready for WAIK/MDT/SCCM etc..

Windows 9 is working ok right here

@pauska #yolo (it's my personal WDS server, not my work one. If it asplodes it doesn't matter)

Why Windows 10? Because 7 8 9

@pauska gtfo

@tombull89 One is likely the base used for both Consumer and Enterprise, the other is the Consumer version that actually gets installed when you boot and setup.

Or consumer and developer, the latter bundled with sdk's and ddk's...

Would make sense, I guess.

It's quick to install, I'll say that much...

yeah

It's like Windows 8 was re-compiled with the -sucksDonkeyDick switch

link anyone ?

@FalconMomot I've seen applicants passed up for that here

@Iain preview.windows.com

Job hopping within reason is good, but people who really master something are hard to find and cost a lot

@Basil I think for generalists, especially those in small shops, you kind of have to do it.

Otherwise you can't learn new skills.

yeah, that's probably fair

but if we want to find someone for SAP and pay them 350k a year, we turn down people who have too many jobs under 5 years

I mean if you were a specialist such as yourself yeah.

@Basil Congratulations, I think that is the most depressing thing anyone has ever said, ever.

@HopelessN00b they make so much more than the real world

mind you, that guy was probably a project manager or something

@Basil Just making it worse. Managers get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do what I can pay the 18 year old hottie down the street 10 bucks an hour to do.

...and frankly, I rather have the young, dumb blonde around than any manager I've ever met.

@tombull89 ta

Maybe your manager can be so easily replaced but it takes real skill to consistently take something I've said 10 mins ago and repeat it to our director in a way that's always on the cusp of "almost, but not quite correct, in the worst way possible"

@RobM Yes, exactly.

WHITE MOM SUES SPERM BANK FOR GIVING HER VIALS FROM BLACK DONOR

ooops

> She claims that the Illinois bank sent her a typed letter of apology and a refund check for the six vials containing the incorrect sperm.

Guess Hallmark doesn't make a card that says "sorry we accidentally gave you the wrong color baby."

See what my life is like!??!

Because being black is pretty rough here

@RyanRies Got the PowerShell 5.0 september preview edition installed?

While the color of the baby highlights the mistake I really don't think it matters to the suit. I would assume a sperm bank would double check, triple check, and check a half dozen more times before anything went out the door.

"handwritten records"

I'm not sure there's anything wrong with doing things manually.... You just have to be absolutely meticulous. There shouldn't be any way for a single mistake to end up like this, nor two mistakes, it should take a whole train-wreck to end up with this situation. I've got the strong impression that their record keeping is plain sloppy, nothing an electronic system couldn't emulate.

it would have been better if it was, "Oh, we keep our records in FoxPro"

@ewwhite Or "we keep our records on MS Access running on windows me"...

yeah it's just a sad story

@ewwhite I read that article and keep thinking..."what is this, the 50s?"

@NathanC No, it's Ohio.

I mean, I was mad when the trim of my new car was the wrong color...

Meh.

@NathanC It's any small town in 'Murica still... Whatever the predominant color is there, they'll be xenophobic of anything else.

Now I get to go home and break my roommate's kneecaps ask my roommate for rent money that's due today >_>

That article does have more than a slight scent of racism about it. You'd think that a couple that have presumably had to deal with the stigma of being gay might be a bit more diverse but clearly not :-(

@ChrisS Yeah, I've noticed that.

@RobM That's weird too. Then again, people don't seem to give a shit if it's two females in a relationship, but everyone's up in arms when it's two guys. Goes both ways, folks. :P

I think some people are just assholes.

I mean specifically in the realm of bigotry - don't want to hear their whining self-justification. They're just tiny-minded assholes. End of discussion.

@RobM Well, to be fair, people want to be able to relate to their children and see themselves in their kids (or so I hear from... <shudder> breeders). I can see how that might be difficult when your kid is a different color than you are.

Well maybe but your love for your child should overcome that. After all, we're all in somewhat different 'cultures' to our parents to one degree or another. And while it would be stupid of me to think that a lesbian cannot be a racist, I do think that someone who has had experience with a large cultural divide with their parents should maybe be better equipped to handle one with their own child

@HopelessN00b maybe... but it also sounds like these parents are trying to raise their mixed kid in black culture, rather than the parents' own culture. This doesn't make much sense to me, it's not like stereotypical African American culture has much to do with native African culture. Similarly I have a baby girl now, I'm not going to go out of my way to immerse her in Germanic or Norwegian culture.

Oh don't get me wrong, I can see why it might be jarring to expect one thing and get another. I just wonder how deep it needs to go!

Would she sue if she expected a blonde and got a redhead?

@ChrisS it's hard when you're black... things as simple as haircuts require some thought

@ChrisS Well, whether we like to admit it or not, there's a distinct difference between white-American culture and African-American culture. How much, if anything, that has to do with our actual continents of origin is irrelevant to the fact that there is a difference, and most people are only comfortable or accepted in one or the other.

@RobM Of course not. They're suing because they wanted a white baby, paid for a white baby... and got a different color instead. I'm honestly more curious to think about whether they'd sue if they ended up with an ethnically Latino or Asian (etc) baby, or if they just don't like black people.

but more than anything, there's a visible difference in appearance.

@ewwhite I just had a shave and a haircut, and I thought of your earlier discussion on the topic.

it's more like, "didn't get what I paid for"

Again, I have some sympathy for "didn't get what I paid for". I don't have too much sympathy for "It's a problem because my friends are racist".

@RobM Well, right. Imagine the blowback if they just came out and said "I didn't want a black baby." That's really what they're saying... just, without saying it/saying it in a way that won't get their home firebombed.

well, that's to stir-up the outrage.

If I were white, I'd be like, "i don't want a black baby"

My parents were racists, sadly. I didn't let that stop me bring home whatever girlfriends I wanted.

not the same thing as having a kid I know, I just mean I tend to come out swinging at this kinda thing.

@RobM now that my parents are trying to get into heaven, they disclaim all the statements made when I was raised.

@RyJones well my folks don't have to worry about that any more at least. And there's nothing wrong with changing for the better whatever drives you to it I guess?

@MathiasR.Jessen Not yet, anything else in it good besides the OneGet/Chocolatey thing?

@RyanRies Start-Transcript is no longer implemented in the host application, but in the core module, so you can use it from within ISE or remote runspaces

oops, the article had a stock photo :)

It's funny actually, my mother grew up in a town that was fairly diverse and she could be pretty damn racist :-( - my father was the one who grew up in a sheltered village in the Scottish equivalent of hicksville and he wasn't as bad.

@ewwhite On a related note, you think you'd mind if you got a white baby by mistake, somehow? (If you don't mind my asking, of course.)

@RobM I'm fine with them changing. I doubt the sincerity of the change, and they deny they ever said anything, so I'm not fine with changing history.

@RyJones that is a shame then :-(

@RobM I moved to Seattle from Indiana so my kids would not grow up around them.

@HopelessN00b My wife and I were talking about it... and no, I don't think I'd like a White child. She made the mistake of marrying me, so now she has to live with it.

Sounds pretty bad @RyJones

@RobM I think that's kinda normal, actually. Is in my experience, anyway. If you grow up without being exposed to a certain group of people, you never really get a chance to develop prejudices (good or bad) about them. How it worked out for me anyway.

@RobM I'm convinced my sister la la la

true enough. He had some prejudices though. Which surprised me because people were racist towards him when he moved to England... you'd think he learnt

@RyJones i can imagine that did drive them crazy!

@ewwhite Heh, I love that last sentence there. I'm gonna steal that if I ever end up married one day. =D

I know both my parents about crapped themselves when I introduced them to this nice Indian girl I'd been dating when I was in my early 20s

I'm not going to say we had monthly Birth of a Nation watching parties, but that isn't too far off.

@RobM Prejudices are part of life. Billions of years of evolution conditioning us to make snap judgements, with insufficient data, all to help us avoid getting eaten by something new and interesting. :)

This is true. And to be fair, I am prejudiced against fuckwits and lusers.

@HopelessN00b who the fuck are you to say that! the word evolution should be evil-loution! take your "science" out of here!

that's the spirit! Those evil scientists and their pesky scientific proofs should be made to listen to taylor swift rapping until they change their ways.

I'd almost pay to have Taylor Swift slow jam a bunch of scientific papers

This is definitely another time I'm missing out on something, in that I ignore entertainment news and basically just listen to punk rock. Did Taylor Swift make an impassioned argument in favor of creationism or something?

not as far as I know, but her spoken pieces in the latest single are really not good

@RobM Oh, yeah, I have actually heard one of.. well, part of one of her newer songs where she's trying the rap/spoken word thing, and it's just... horrible.

yup

Not that I even really appreciate that genre of music when it's done well, but when it's done badly... by a white country artist... it's really bad.

Yeah. I can't imagine enjoying, say, Public Enemy attempting country either

Exactly. I hear good things about the London Symphony Orchestra, doesn't mean I wanna hear them rocking "Punk Rock Song." ... nor do I want to hear Bad Religion attempting a Wagner symphony.

yeah

@RobM don't fence Chuck D and Flavor Flav in, man

That's not to say that sometimes amazing things happen when people try something different and unusual for them, but you need to have people around you who can get away with just looking at you and shaking their heads when it hasn't turned out so good.

@RobM Jello Biafra and Mojo Nixon made wonderful music together

and if your store don't have Mojo Nixon then your store could use some fixin'

The words you are using make no sense to me now.

I doubt your punk rock bona fides

@tombull89 you mean that's NOT a font name?

punk rock girl

I thought it was a drink from starbucks, but she's apparently a singer.

Mojo Nixon and Jello Biafra

Jello's more famous band

Actually I'm enjoying that Punk Rock Girl so far. And I have heard of the Dead Kennedys....

@RobM Furthermore, I was playing off Chickenshit Conformist (like your parents) with the "harder core than thou for a year or two, then it's time to find a real job"

Gotta say, I love how much classic rock and roll and punk have in common. Thank you, Ramones.

I want to say, once again, how wonderful a straight razor shave is

I haven't been that intimate with a woman in 15 years

@RyJones You're obviously more of a morning person than I am. Last time I tried to shave with a blade in the shower, I ended up in the ICU for a week. :p

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Hahaha

@HopelessN00b I just paid a woman $130 with tip to do it for me.

I should have gone for the manicure, too, get my nails all polished

@MathiasR.Jessen Oh, that's just so sad I want to kill myself. Or all developers. Or all suits that insist on still using code from two decades ago. Or everyone. Yeah, everyone. Just wanna watch the world burn.

@MathiasR.Jessen Although I don't doubt that this is true (I've seen github searches that code with the same rules), this would be easily fixed by changing the version number that's returned by that hook

Perhaps make it return "Windows Nine" or something

@MarkHenderson And when you run an arithmetic operator against that? I mean, is "Nine" greater than 8, less than 8, or unexpected stack dump than 8?

It killed me when they changed the build number for Windows 8 from 8888.

@HopelessN00b It wouldn't work anyway for that string, because it includes the word "Windows" and also includes "XP" and "ME"

So you wouldn't do an arithmetic operator on the version string, you'd do it on the build number, which has never been in sync with the version number

@RyJones The NT team were obviously far too serious to use cute build numbers

@MarkHenderson for the first few releases, yes

OK. Ate lunch. I feel far less whiny.

@kce OH DOES SOMEONE NEED A BELLY RUB AND SOME CATNIP?

@MathiasR.Jessen That's pretty nice, I have a lot of silly looking If ($Host.Name -EQ 'ConsoleHost') { Start-Transcript $TranscriptFile } in my scripts now.

Well, if developers did version checking right... or better than a drunk cat swatting at a keyboard, the whole problem wouldn't exist to begin with. Besides, standards. Skipping a version is better than "7", then "8", then "nine", IMO. After "7" and "8", it's reasonable to expect the next one to be a numerical value close to "9", after all.

@RyJones Yeah. I had a complain-y-fest earlier about nothing important. And now I came back to apologize to chat.se.

@kce we still love you

Chat.SF are my only friends.

Oh, damn. The Secret Service director just resigned after bungling two assassination attempts against the president. Hopefully the next one will be able to get him on the first try.

@HopelessN00b I saw two breeches, but no attempts.

@RyJones Just like Prom Night.

wtf. Linkedin automatically joined me to some alumni groups

@faker wtf. you have a linkedin account.

@RyJones yeah... I have my own company. A lot of people asked for it

@RyJones The implication being that the more likely explanation is malice than such an implausible degree of incompetence. And that America's currently experiencing an acute shortage of dead politicians, of course.

@HopelessN00b yeah, got that, but I was going to let it go by. However much I hate Obama, I don't wish him dead.

Well, it doesn't look like he's going to just resign...

They're all a bunch of treasonous tyrants, and a more civilized society would hang them from the neck until dead... but I'm pragmatic, so I'll settle for them having a quick and clean death, if that's what it takes.

Geezus you guys should try having our prime minister

But we don't live in Australia. Make your own gallows and noose.

@MarkHenderson To be fair, your prime minister never swore an oath to our constitution, which he then proceeded to wipe his ass with an an hourly basis... as all our politicians do.

Or get one from IKEA

@HopelessN00b He didn't swear an oath to your constitution but I'm sure there's some sort of oath ours breaks daily

It's no so much that they deserve death because they're scummy lying pieces of shit who deserve to die, it's that their betrayal of their oaths is treason, for which the punishment is death.

He's deliberately broken virtually every promise that he made during his election campaign (which we knew he would do). The only promises he hasn't broken are the ones we wish he would break, which include child refugees to prison

@MarkHenderson Well, then, like MH sad, get your own gallows and ropes. If you pay for the ticket, I'll fly down under and help. :)

@HopelessN00b We tend not to solve our problems with violence

@MarkHenderson Yes, you Aussies have fallen a long way from the awesome colony of violent prisoners you once were.

Sounds about right.

Sounds about right, whether you're referring to Potomac River rats or the mob.

From kind of an ironic source, but politics and bedfellows, right?

Proudhon

Right, a French politician and socialist. Kind of an ironic source for such an indictment of the very idea of governance.

We all wallow in our hypocrisy.

@kce Not all of us. The secret to avoiding hypocrisy is avoiding having any principles in the first place.

I don't mean to brag, but I'm incredible at avoiding hypocrisy.

Bastiat's work The Law is worth reading.

@HopelessN00b Sophist!

@RyJones Classic. <sigh> Whatever happened to France? Once upon the time, they were the heart of the world. The past couple hundred years though, when they're not too busy serving as Germany's punching bag, the whole country's going on strike for being asked to work as many as 30 hours a week.

@kce Nah, just a cynic and a misanthrope. Or, "never wrong," to put it in smaller words.

You are without a doubt the worst Canadian I've ever met.

@HopelessN00b Agreed. I have a sentimental view of France, since they supported us in the Civil War and the Revolutionary War, but they keep killing my buzz.

@HopelessN00b Where the heck is happy-go-lucky-I-just-want-to-go-ice-fishing-and-play-hockey attitude?

@RyJones Not to mention the foundation of libertarian thought, and the source material for the American Founding Fathers' revolution... but yeah, problem is that all the good French folks seem to have died out in the 1800's. :(

@kce And I'm damn proud of making an awful Canadian. Ewww, Canada. Hell, even Americans are a bunch of conformist wimps these days... should give you some insight into what I think of Canadians, no?

@HopelessN00b I can imagine.

@kce I'd tell you, but it qualifies as hate speech, which is against the law in that pathetic excuse for a country/my homeland.

@HopelessN00b How close are you to your getting your US visa?

Green card? Beats me. They basically get back to ya when they get back to ya. 15 years closer than I was when I started, though.

On HB1 visa huh?

@kce OH, no, TN. Possibly the only good thing about being Canadian. They cost like $65 bucks and there's no quota on them. Does mean going back to <shudder> Canada to get it renewed every new job or few years, but... could be worse. I guess. Somehow.

I'm on an HB1 from Alaska.

we used to get people stuck up in Vancouver when they got bounced for the visa

Wow, you know people who've gotten bounced applying for a TN?

Fact is stranger than fiction.

@HopelessN00b used to happen all the time at Microsoft. They'd go up to Vancouver to get it renewed and they'd be denied re-entry for a few days

the primary use of the Vancouver office used to be to provide office space for trapped Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Korean nationals with visas via Canada

Weird. Never would have figured MS legal would have trouble getting workers through, especially with TN visas.

shrug

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@RyJones I have a bunch of these: eevblog.com/projects/uruler

@MarkHenderson nice

I'm so sadistic.

I love the shocked responses when an EC2 host goes down, and Amazon's RCA is that the host hardware is, as they put it, "degraded."

But, but... CLOUD!

As if a host is somehow instantiated and replicated across multiple bits of hardware in multiple DCs.

Magically.

@HopelessN00b You can't just go to the closest Canadian Embassy instead of all the way back?

@freiheit Maybe. But the border's closer. I can also apply by mail, if I wanted to wait 4-6 weeks, instead of 8 hours of driving.

Wait, no, embassy wouldn't work... there wouldn't be 'Merikan BCIS personnel at a Canadian embassy.

@Wesley People forget that "cloud" is just a fancy name for a metric shottonne of VPSes sitting on a shitload of servers sitting in racks that they don't have physical access to

It's not exactly a new concept

@HopelessN00b Google do it so it must be good for everyone!

@MarkHenderson Heh. I did figure out the best way to get my boss to stop suggesting we do things because Google does them. "But Google would pay me double what I'm making now, so we should do that too."

@HopelessN00b Isn't that the fundamental principle behind RAID?

It makes me chuckle. And then cry a little.