What is a good reason for wanting to replace an in-use .exe? Don't feel like scheduling a proper maintenance window?

none

I didn't think this would even be possible if the file were in use in memory or had open file handles. That's not a feature, dude stumbled on a design flaw in his applications.

Even NASCAR drivers come to a full stop to have the tires replaced. Barely, but they do. Sheesh.

Sounds Scary.

oh my god our hardware vendor's website SUCKS!

does anyone know if the R610 requires so-called low profile DIMMs?

no it doesn't

awesome

@Zypher thanks

np

price difference of $200!

Anyone have first hand experience with the Seagate Constellation.2 self encrypting drives?

2.5"

How the heck did the "how to empty /dev/null" question get 16 upvotes?!?!

lol

@ChrisS Twitter.

that's an important part of the web scale sauce

@ChrisS 17 :)

Ha. I hadn't noticed before

the accepted answerer, is a good friend of mine

View-velocity on that question suggests it's gone viral somewhere.

Wow, 2 votes to move to SU.

Someone must hate SU.

2 for OT, 2 for OT:SU. WHO WILL WIN?

If the 5th vote is for SO, what will happen?

knife fight.

depends on who casts it :)

Zypher steps in.

For those of you who enjoy my writing (ping @RobertMoir): tomoconnor.eu/blogish/monitoring-munin

@Zypher Way to ruin a fun thought experiment.

mwahahaha

Buzz Killington is at it again

I thought that whole election thing was to replace the old mods....

No, mods just keep growing in number and power, like a pantheon of gods.

Then we wait until they fight one another and become one with the Force.

Are they emulating a specific pantheon?

@packs for the new SE2.0 sites it was to replace the pro tem mods

for the trilogy it was to add ... this time

I think it's like a cross between the Force and the Matrix. It is in my head, anyway.

I thought they castrated each other?

Because, if we go Grecian, I wonder who will end up portraying Aphrodite and Athena.

@Jacob: You're thinking of EUNIX.

@Zypher I presume that elections are only taking place on those sites that are out of beta, eh?

correct

sigh ... why do I keep typing 'ls' into the cisco CLI?

@Zypher hehe

@Zypher Little known fact. ls doesn't work in Windows either.

@packs it does in ftp

:%s/in Windows either/in Windows CMD shell either/

@ChrisS better?

It works just fine on Windows. You doesn't have bash installed?

ls works in Powershell

and if you have SFU installed

That's just crazy talk. Next you're going to tell me that Windows is ready for the enterprise!

@TomOConnor ls is an alias in PS, you could setup an alias in CMD as well, but it's not there by default.

@Zypher: Great, got feedback from the ISP's help desk now, the router is configured to tag VLAN 1

ha of COURSE it is

BTW, did everyone here know that a stand-alone Windows DHCP server without any form of authentication (or AD) requires 1 user CAL per DHCP client?.......

err what?

@pauska Really? when did that happen?

Goodness.

It was frigging fantastic to read that after setting up 2*78 DHCP scopes for each our offices guest network

suggestion ... ISC DHCPD

Already on it.

@Zypher doesn't talk to AD though

@Tom: Dont need AD for this

in what way?

@pauska Pfsense FTW!

It's a guest network.. IE, heres your default router and your dns servers.. go surf

:)

like why the F*(%^ would you need your dhcp server to talk to ad?

@Zypher: It authenticates it self (as in "allowed" dhcp server).. other than that I have no idea, secure DDNS perhaps?

@pauska That's it exactly. The DHCP server can provide kerberized Dynamic DNS updates to Microsoft DNS servers.

Does anyone know how to check the power remaining on a UPS via the terminal under Mac OS X?

what brand @Josh

We have no power here and I don't want to turn on the monitor to check, but nevermind I remember it has VNC installed

@Zypher APC

@Josh if it's apc, you could cross-compile apcupsd

there might be native binaries for it for osx actually

or maybe telnet to it

dunno.. what model apc is it?

VNC to the rescue

take flashlight, walk up to box check bars?

78% remaining

This is really odd for us to have lost power for this long

I suppose it's a good test of our UPSes though...

Yep.

nothing like a disaster to test the DR plan!

I was using ssmtp as the mail relay on this server I've got, but it just got a new app installed on it that is hardcoded to try and talk SMTP to localhost:25 ; what's the lightest weight thing I can install that will work ? I could go whole-hog and install postfix but it seems like overkill.

@TomOConnor yeah really

@Josh How long is long? We had an hour-long outage a few weeks ago (ran the battery down to ~15%)

about 20 minutes now

normally power failures in my office don't last more than a few minutes

heh, sounds like your battery is more over-spec'd than mine :-)

we have shit power here - outages are usually 15-20 minutes, with follow-up brown-outs/cuts after that

@Josh whereabouts are you, i saw something in the news about rolling blackouts in the usa

@TomOConnor Outside RTP near Cary, North Carolina

Our current setup will run for almost 20 minutes on battery power; but power outages are incredibly rare here and everything starts shutting down after 1 minute (long enough to fix an oops moment).

@voretaq7 UPSes at 55%, 20-something minutes in

this is our local office only, our servers are coloed

OK time to start suspending VMs

@Josh that's not bad for a local branch office. Here it's our office server closet (PBX, firewall, development VMWare box)

plus the ISP gear plugs in to our backup too

yeah I'm actually pretty impressed they've lasted this long!

all nonessential stuff is off, monitors etc

and there goes our fileserver...

as you said @Tom, good test to make sure it will automatically shut down when UPS power drops below 50% :-)

why only 50%?

at $lastjob, we'd start killing stuff at 25%

we waited till 15% at $lastjob

then again we had almost 300 mins of runtime on our UPSs soooo

and the lights are back on!

\o/

Woohoo

don't party too soon though

yeah really, lol

@TomOConnor well now I know I can push it

The lights ALWAYS go out again just after you've powered it all up and your UPS is at 10% :-)

This is the fileserver for all our business files, so I wanted to be very conservatve

@BenPilbrow yeah I'm waiting 15 minutes before powering stuff up again

@BenPilbrow 8 years ago we had that happen. The generator transfer switch didn't transfer, so the UPS ran out of mojo and crashed the room. When utility came back, startup-load overloaded the UPS so it crashed the room again. While a good many servers were very busy starting up. Our Sun servers really didn't like that.

OUCH

I bet that emptied /dev/null on all your servers!

Yeah. A cringeworthy percentage of our Solaris boxen had to go through recovery after that, the outage was several days. The Win/NetWare servers came through unscathed.

Has anyone ever seen this before: suhosin[14699]: ALERT - end canary mismatch on efree() - heap overflow detected at 0x20194c0 (attacker '87.X.Y.Z', file '/var/www/http/index.php')

Sounds like the canary state flopped. Time to get a new coal mine.

@sysadmin1138 LOL

I should have checked our VoIP system... but aside from that we didn't lose anything

well, our WiFi network, but we don't use that for anything essential

all local servers and workstations survived, yey

@Josh now call your power company and ask wtf they're thinking

@TomOConnor haha yeah really :-)

something is weird with the chat nicks here

sysadmin1138 is "sysadmin1", Tom O'Connor is "tom" etc

Same for me, depends on window width I think

@pauska It truncates where necessary to preserve line height. It's been doing that for a couple weeks. It tries to do it intelligently, like "Tom"; but that isn't always possible.

if they post multiple lines the chat should exmapnd

@ChrisS: oh

Yeah. If I decide to

shotgunpost, it should

expand at some point.

See?

is fixed font
fixed width??

yes.

Sweet, I apparently trashed the partition table of a very important hard drive and I have no idea how.

These two questions look a lot alike to me: serverfault.com/questions/232371/netstat-time-wait-issues and serverfault.com/questions/232360/…

sigh HP switches are confusing

lower version numbers mean more advanced/powerful switch?

licensing on cisco routers has gotten slightly confuzzling

@SpacemanSpiff Was Cisco licensing ever less than confuzzling?

:) true...

Trying to figure out what it takes to license this router to be a voice gateway

I guess the days of "just download this IOS" are over... I only see a universal one

the people who design licence schemes need to have their /dev/null emptied

if you know what i mean.

ugh - so tired

@hoboda - HP switches are confusing because they want to get the consultants installed in your wallet, same as most people. Having said that, I think the numbers go up for more advanced tiers - a 82xx is more advanced than a 54xx, and so on

long day huh?

I bet its about as confusing as figuring out what the icons mean on dell powerconnect switches

@voretaq7 Partied like a rock star all weekend and now you're paying for it, huh? =)

@RobertMoir thanks, it seems different for the Exxxx series

or the fact that there is no hierarchy to the config, every statement appears to be in some random frakking order

the E 4510 is a stupid fastethernet

but the 2810 is GigE

and the 2510 is some weird thing with PoE and other functionality

I should know this, we're an end-to-end procurve shop

let me refresh my ahem google ahem memory

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that this series lacked any sensical (to me) correlation of featureset to model number

I used to know a portion of the ProCurve product line, but then HP went and absorbed 3Com and things got even more convoluted.

h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/products/switches/index.aspx Layer 2 E series

@WesleyDavid i wish :-/

k, have a good one everyone.

losing my will to live LOL

later spiff

Yeah. Looking at them. I think they're done on different bundles of features

cya spaceman

I know we have the 26xx and 25xx range in a few edge cabinets

what struck me @RobertMoir was the 4210G saying "entry level"

@voretaq7 I almost got that low this weekend while thrashing partition tables with OpenSUSE. One hosed TB array later and I'm considering going into the building trades.

but we mostly have the Axxxx range

yes that is confusing, have to admit I've never looked at those

heh I'm confusing myself now looking at this list. Their product portfolio really isn't clear is it?

but anyway @voretaq7, hang in there. It/IT gets better. Some day you'll own your own company and make the rules up as you go. =)

@WesleyDavid heh

mondays rarely end well

I had to make an appointment to have my cat put down tomorrow.

:(

idk, work hurts my head today

so not as happy with the day as I could be.

@RobertMoir that sucks

<- dealing with 2 sick animals too

yeah it does. She's about 25 years old and just.. well.. worn out poor thing

@voretaq7 Awww. Sick as in Old-Yeller-Sick? Or sick as in a-few-shots-and-it's-good sick?

I can see why the shine is off your day too then @voretaq7, a rough day at work on top of that :-(

@WesleyDavid not sure yet

=|

@RobertMoir :S

howdy Tom. Been blogging again eh

yeah.

cool :-)

:) I also wrote an RSS feed generator for my blog

yay

This is the slight drawback of not using Wordpress ;)

well if you like coding its a benefit i guess :-)

hehe, this is true.

i was sick of the amount of hits for /rss/ and getting 404s :P

ahh well then

petereisentraut.blogspot.com/2011/02/… <-- This? This right here? THIS is why I {don't use Debian,build important stuff myself from source}.

That sounds like a bad day waiting to happen

Integration and Regression Testing: Debian No Can Has?

it's that crazy "only gpl software" rule

which is utter nonsense IMO.

it's what makes work interesting and fun, right

nah. I use Ubuntu.

it's that crazy "Change shit you don't understand, don't test it, and let your users discover the breakage!" attitude :-)

Right. Minecraft time :D digs

fantastic

serverfault.com/questions/153651/… someone to keep an eye on for spam

and @RobertMoir :(

I think that person needs to be flagged. Flagged like crazy

it isn't only gpl only, but DFSG are very picky.

I am very surprise that nobody noticed the Postgres thing before upgrading. Debian heavily depends on the community to submit bugs. If people don't test the RC before release, then how would they know if there is a problem...

Looking deeper it seems to be a license conflict. Do you expect Debian to release software in a way that violates the license?

Grams sent me her laptop, Windows 7, infected so bad I had to back it into a corner and beat it with a crowbar Gordon Freeman style. What am I doing to it right now? Installing Ubuntu 10.10 before shipping it back to her. High five, anyone?

She wanted to buy a Mac, but I told her to save $1200 and let me handle it.

After a couple evenings of TeamViewer screensharing to orient her, she should be off and running.

hopefully

She just uses it for web browsing, online shopping and simple email stuffs.

should be safe then.

10.10 seems pretty nice

I know, right? I was playing with it over the last few days and it seems awesome.

Easiest user experience to connect to a wireless network that I've ever had.

In other news, I'm switching my main OS from Win 7 to OpenSUSE 11.3. We'll see how that goes. I have to dual boot so I can play Steam games, use Photoshop and make Camtasia recordings with decent speed.

@WesleyDavid you didn't get Steam running under WINE? ;)

I'm still happy with win 7 on the desktop and OSX on the laptop

@pjz I wasn't even going to try it, making the possibly poor assumption that it wouldn't come close to the speed of running it native.

Are those Turbo C and Turbo Pascal books?

I'm pretty sure they are.