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12:11 AM
@Iszi Hey
 
12:55 AM
Hello
 
1:12 AM
@ChrisF huh?
lists "cast delete and undelete votes on questions"
and
lsts
Vote to delete posts scored -1 and lower
Vote to delete questions immediately after they are closed (even if they are new)
 
@TomWij that deletes with only your vote
 
Oh, I see
 
>2k users can't earn rep from edits, right?
 
Hmm, would be funny to see an user profile that just got to 2k reputation from editing. :D
Anyhow, night... :-)
 
 
2 hours later…
3:16 AM
Good evening, everyone.
 
@MarkSzymanski Hello
 
Hi, @Jacob.
How are you?
 
Good,you?
 
I'm doing great, thanks.
 
New to SU I am usually on SF
 
3:20 AM
Ah.
How are you liking SU so far?
 
@MarkSzymanski SUs pretty cool
 
I'm usually only on SU. I do ask some questions on SO from time to time.
I only have like 400 rep there. :P
Compared to my 2000 here.
 
@MarkSzymanski I have 125 here 600 on SF
 
nods
I've also started on Apple.SE. I might get to be active there, too.
@Jacob: What OS do you use?
 
@MarkSzymanski I don't have any Mac equipment
I stick to Linux and Windows
 
3:25 AM
Ah.
 
can't really afford Mac
 
I use OS X most of the time, I do some Linux though.
Ah.
 
I'm 15 limited budget
but I do have a job
 
so I might save for a nice mac book
 
3:27 AM
I'm on a 13" Aluminum MacBook (not Pro) late '08 right now.
And, wow. I'm building an application from source code...
513 errors.
 
@MarkSzymanski ouch what are you building if you don't mind?
 
I'm trying to build QuickCursor. Which is normally like 5$ or something on the Mac App Store. But I'm trying to build it myself from source.
 
Compiled is $5 but source is free?
 
Weird?
 
3:29 AM
Quite a few iPhone apps work that way too.
Yes, very weird.
Like, the app will cost $5 in the iPhone App Store, but the source code will be free.
 
@MarkSzymanski very strange. I've been a Android Dev for a while but I've never seen that
 
Which, IMO. Is pretty messed up.
Ah.
Android... blech.
 
@MarkSzymanski sorry I was a Verizon customer
 
Ah :P
The iPhone's on Verizon now ;)
 
and if you've seen AT&T service here...
@MarkSzymanski Droid 2 in Nov
won't see it for 2 more years
 
3:33 AM
nods
Well, with the building thing. I'll just watch the project on GitHub and see if they update it and just keep trying.
 
@MarkSzymanski I assume its Objective C?
I know c# c++ Java and some others but nothing mac related
sorry
 
@Jacob: Correct, all Mac apps (GUI ones, anyways) are written in Obj-C.
I know C, Objective-C, Ruby, Bash scripting, HTML, CSS (CSS probably doesn't count), and probably some others I can't remember.
 
@MarkSzymanski as far as Web ASPX PHP HTML CSS(I count it)
 
nods
Grah. I hate stupid people.
A lot.
 
@MarkSzymanski agreed
@MarkSzymanski what caused you to share that though hehe ?
 
3:45 AM
Especially people who report your IRC bot when it has done nothing wrong.
@Jacob: LOOOOOONNNNGGG story.
Basically.
An IRC bot I had been running on an IRC network got killed because somebody who hates me for no apparent reason decided to report it to the admins.
So, the bot got banned.
And, now, I have to re-register it.
 
@MarkSzymanski ouch
Do you have a domain?
I'll throw IRC on my server
 
What do you mean? A website?
 
@MarkSzymanski as in a domain name like example.com
 
No, I don't.
But, I do have a website. Not a registered domain, though.
 
New?
 
3:53 AM
A few months old, but It's a blog, I keep it updated.
 
If you want to grab a real domain I'd host it for you.
and the story of me offering to host
 
No thanks. I'm alright with the hosting I use.
 
is
 
But thanks for the offer ^^
 
I offer to get traffic to my server so I can study real world enviroments
 
3:55 AM
Ah.
My site gets very little traffic :P
 
still 5 is more than 0 :)
not saying you get 5 views
 
@MarkSzymanski hmm ?
 
@Sathya: ?
 
@MarkSzymanski follow in-reply-to
28 mins ago, by Mark Szymanski
Android... blech.
 
3:59 AM
Ah XD
Because it is.
It's awful D:
In my experience with it, anyways.
 
I like it
 
shrugs
 
@Sathya your opinion?
 
I'm loving my Nexus S - more so than my iPhone 3G
(note: I owned an iPhone 3G for ~ 1.5 years)
 
@Sathya due to at&t service?
 
4:02 AM
I'm not in the states @Jacob
 
@Sathya that helps :)
 
got my hands burnt ysterday :(
Lesson learnt: NEVER, ever reset your jailbroken iPhone :X
@Flyfiddlesticks stupid shit has gone into a boot -> spinner -> boot cycle :X
had to enter into DFU & restore it
and those big ass 300+MB downloads :X
.. and the iPhone comes alive.
enough ranting anyway
 
4:34 AM
I'm off to bed, goodnight @Sathya, @Jacob.
 
good night @MarkSzymanski
 
5:24 AM
hellow @Sathya
 
5:35 AM
burnination has arrived...
 
hides
 
 
2 hours later…
Wil
"3d boobs in your face!".... not really nsfw... but very funny!
Have you ever seen the Nimportqui videos?
 
the bloopers are funny too
the one guy tells his girlfriend: you should be a lesbian, she says: I'm thinking on it :P
 
Wil
 
yeah just watched that too
 
Wil
 
7:51 AM
funny that he got caught in the mall though :P
what the heck is ashleymadison.com
 
Wil
ehh, just googled... dating website?
ok... the outtakes are more NSFW!
 
brb something tells me my computer needs a reboot
 
8:08 AM
@IvoFlipse maybe you should take a break from the internet.
 
maybe ;)
 
Wil
8:20 AM
@IvoFlipse - just going through some of my earlier answerts... why was this one deleted... after everything, I thought it was ok? superuser.com/questions/108112/virtual-machine-software ... "the controversial one"
 
because not a real question, should have never really gotten an answer in the first place
just too bad it burned you for 100 rep
I would prefer to have all those questions deleted
 
Wil
I don't care about the rep, my uncle just asked about virtualisation and a lot of his questions are similar to that, so I wanted to point him there... but took me ages to track down... I think it is useful... if I edit / make it readable, can it be undeleted?
 
sure
if you edit the question body, then it's good to go
 
Wil
I'm surprised I, or anyone else never edited it back then...
 
Diago closed it :P
and that was almost before Troggy and I came along
 
Wil
8:27 AM
Did you undelete or did my edit do that?
 
I undeleted and opened it
now you just make sure the body of the question is a real question ;)
 
Wil
Anyway, I don't mind it closed/locked, but so many people ask those basic questions, I have sent quite a few people there...
It took me ages to track down as I had no idea it was deleted
anyway, edited now... and yeah, I usually link direct to my answer as I summarise the questions... but it should be good now.
 
its fine now :)
 
Wil
no problem!
Changing the subject, In We Rule, a few times, I get messages of things failing, like that gown thing, it said "no party"... any idea why/what happened? ... and any chance you can build a wood/lumber camp (it is very cheap) as I need it for a quest!... If you want/need anything built, let me know.
 
I didn't sent it to you, because it got finished while I was sleeping
and you have to sent it within x hours or so
btw I could never finish my darn quests, because you kept building all the fancy stuff! :P
sure I'll built it
money is not a concern :)
I've got 500.000 coins I believe
 
Wil
8:32 AM
@IvoFlipse ahh, no problem - I didn't realise! It is just very annoying because you can't order the same thing twice in a row (no open sign above the gown place now), so I have to restart that quest... unless I get more friends (you are the only one on my list!)
 
I need that cheese thing and jewelry store for some quests
hehe, I have the same problem
 
Wil
@IvoFlipse LOL... I thought I had quite a few basic places now.... I don't want to spend any real money or mojo (money - never, mojo - maybe when I have enough spare)... but anything that is just in game cash, let me know and I will happily build it
 
I once asked a question on Gaming on how to deal with this
I never use mojo either
I did in the beginning
wasted a bunch, when I didn't knew I wouldn't get as much
 
Wil
I can't build the cheese thing until level 21 (I am 20) but I will build a jewellery shop for you now.
 
great
ah well the xp from quests sucks anyway
there's not much you can do in this game
but I like the animations :P
and I like collecting all the expensive buildings
 
Wil
8:36 AM
lol
 
like that temple of Cleopatra
 
Wil
1 day, 23 hours and you will have your shop!
 
and there are some others I might get :P
awesome :)
 
Wil
oh, and in restaurant story... if you haven't already... do all the valentines cupcakes... they will probably go soon and you won't be able to get the bonus for level 4 (loads of xp!)
 
hehe good point
though I'm doing those quests already
I just need to add friends to Bakery Story and expand my joint
I'm getting too rich...
 
Wil
8:43 AM
oh god... you turned me in to a social gamer.... what next... you are going to get me to play farmville!
 
the way we play farmville isn't fun
and the game crapped out on me
 
Wil
lol
 
and actually there's Farm Story and City Story
 
Wil
oh no!... lol
 
I have 2 Empire State Buildings in City Story, which are the most expensive buildings
 
Wil
8:45 AM
:P
 
I just make stuff that takes 2 days
so I don't have to check it
half my city are factories :P
 
Wil
going to install bakery story quick... but I don't have that much time to explore today (going around to grandparents soon).
is it very easy/similar?
I feel regret in my finger as I click the icon...
 
hehe
it's exactly the same
so I wouldn't bother, other then to add me :P
 
Wil
LOL
do I need to sign up or does it remember my username?
 
it should remember
 
Wil
8:47 AM
I like that We Rule works on anything with a single username/password.... the story games are annoying that you have to fill out a request...
 
i know
they need to use your iOS accounts for it
some openID
or even Facebook for all I care
 
Wil
I am going to go to the Apple shop (my skin will probably burn on entry!) and try to get it changed... the backlight really annoys me and I have stopped reading on it
 
twitter, take something
hmm that sucks indeed
oh man when I visited the Apple store in the States... it gave me the creeps
 
Wil
yeah... they do it for convenience I guess, but it is annoying
 
those people in there were way too nice and stuff
 
Wil
8:50 AM
@IvoFlipse I honestly don't like the arrogant attitude... that is really my only hate with Apple... If they want to charge more, fine - it looks really nice... but the whole Iphone error press conference just put the nail in the coffin for me... they just don't take responsibility when there is a problem.
oh, and my phone call to their support line.... I will shut up... won't go on!...
 
I know
in 6 months you can buy a Nokia WP7 ;)
 
Wil
haha... I still use a winmo 5 device!... it's rubbish, but it suits me fine!
 
fah, you haven't had the goodness of smartphones yet ;)
 
Wil
if the price is right, I can't wait for the Nokia phone... I have never purchased a Nokia smart phone, but they do some very basic phones that are around £5/next to nothing when purchased with £10 air time (pay as you go) and I have bought a few of them for my grandparents (they keep loosing them!)... I am always so impressed by Nokia sound/call quality. it is amazing compared to most other phones I have had
@IvoFlipse Well, I hardly ever go out to make use of a smart phone - I go on the train once/twice a month for about a hour (30 minutes to London from where I live), and usually the places I go have free wifi.... only other places I go are when I drive, so I wouldn't be able to use the phone anyway.
 
I use my phone for GPS
I read stuff while driving (sue me!) and if I hear a good song I can use Shazam/Soundhound to figure out what it is
read stuff while I have to go shopping with my GF, so I don't get too bored
share my internet with the whole car when we're driving somewhere
tether to my ipad (useful!)
 
Wil
8:58 AM
but the real reason on top is a good deal... My phone has cost me next to nothing... I kept renewing the contract on £10 a month for 200 minutes, 200 texts and £100 cash back, so it was £20 for a year!!!
@IvoFlipse LOL
@IvoFlipse How... I can't take my eyes off the road... I tweeted ONCE whilst in really bad traffic, but that was it!
 
I paid 200 euro's for my phone with 45 euro's a month to have some minutes (basically to finance the phone) and internet
total cost is about 650 euro or so, but given that the phone is 500 of that... you do the math :)
 
Wil
@IvoFlipse Still, for a phone that will be worthless in a few years... I just don't see the point! sorry! even if you love it...
 
I use it all the time, even when I'm behind my desk
or on the couch with my GF, when I have to watch tv, I just read twitter instead ;P
 
Wil
If the Nokia Windows Phone costs a bit, I think for my next phone, I will just get a cheap Nokia one like I get my grandparents - it does the job as far as I am concerned... and possibly a 3g mifi type router for the Ipad..
 
lol, it does make my GF sound like some slave driver
 
Wil
9:04 AM
@IvoFlipse I wouldn't mind having a GF at the moment, slave driver or not!
 
then I guess you need to get out of the door more than 2 times a month ;)
oh wait you do! letting the dogs out :D
 
Wil
@IvoFlipse :P the two times a month are train.... I drive a lot more often! :P (but usually just business... you are right!)
 
lol
did you see my joint? ;)
 
Wil
not yet
I just don' have the time for all these games!
 
man @Wil, when do you ever get to relax!
 
Wil
9:14 AM
When I am rich/retired!
yeah, good... I think I prefer your restaurant though... I am just more used to that game!
 
that stupid game is still moaning about facebook connect
while I'm already connected :\
 
Wil
are there any good free space themed games on the Ipad? I can't find many and really fancy playing something...
 
space themed... not that I know off
 
Wil
the only ones I have seen are trials or expensive
 
I bought NOVA (a halo clone), Conquest (a risk clone) and plants vs zombies
 
Wil
9:20 AM
... I want to play risk! played a few clones years ago, but never played the real thing...
 
well the clone is fun enough against AI
 
Wil
right, done no work yet and got so much on my list... going to try and get through another chapter of my c# book, then need to get ready to go out... Chat to you later!
 
later @Wil :)
 
Wil
@IvoFlipse bye!
 
9:46 AM
mornin' all
 
morning @DMA57361 :)
it's so hard to type along with a screencast on such a small screen :(
I meant where the presenter has a small screen
 
lol, I think...
 
10:25 AM
even worse, I made a mistake, just before rebooting I replaced some code (due to heavy alt+tabbing and stuff) and saved it
so there was no undo :\
now I notice some parts of my code aren't up to date :'(
 
ah, and presumably there's no commit to roll back to either?
 
when I did that, I lost even more, so apparently I hadn't committed anything during the last hour of typing :(
and oh what does time fly by if you're in pain :P
be right back
 
10:55 AM
hi @IvoFlipse
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Q: How can I install Mac OS X Snow Leopard on Virtualbox or VMware ?

Shad Possible Duplicate: How to install Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard in VMWare? I have a Windows 7 (I'm pretty sure 64bit) HP G61 computer and want to install Mac OS X Snow Leopard as a Virtual Machine on it. I have tried installing VMware workstation, and VMware player, both of which would n...

 
yes we dislike Hackintosh or anyting that violates their TOS :P
 
yeah @Hello put in those comments while I was searching for a dupe ( I knew it was a dupe)
 
11:19 AM
argh, he's driving me nuts! he's referencing code that he never shows where it is or what's in it :P
 
who/what/where @IvoFlipse
 
pycon 2010 presentation about wxpython ModelViewController
 
ah
 
he imports a module mvc, but I think that's not a builtin
 
easy_install mvc ?
 
11:33 AM
I'm not even sure if I have easy_install working :\
 
what about pip ?
 
I fear the guy just cooked up something himself
 
:D
downloading KilnTools now
 
ah right it's nice :)
 
12:00 PM
be back later!
 
later @IvoFlipse
 
 
3 hours later…
3:32 PM
Good morning, everyone.
 
3:57 PM
morning @MarkSzymanski
 
Good morning, @Sathya. How are you?
 
good, @MarkSzymanski thanks. my Sunday is over :(
 
Awwr.
It's just starting for me XD
 
I know :/
 
4:17 PM
Well, I have to go for the day. Bye everyone.
 
4:50 PM
Hello
 
5:10 PM
howdy again all
 
5:44 PM
@DMA57361 Heyo
 
hi
 
5:57 PM
Hey again
can I make a suggestion to the mods?
 
sure @Jacob, what's up?
 
While not being a mod on SF
you guys moved
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Q: how to set-up specific mail server?

tintincuteI would like to setup a specific mail server for myself, how can I do that? I have Windows XP and my own web-hosting provider

to us and it really doesn't belong over there; while I don't mind... some other people are getting upset that this is getting moved to SF
although SO is the real issue
 
hmmm, you're probably right
in this case if you can get someone at SF to shutdown the post at that end, I'll clear the migration history and reopen the SU copy
 
but then again we usually dump our junk to the SU so it goes both ways
 
yeah, it's a reoccurring problem in all directions :)
but we may as well tidy up those that can be
 
6:15 PM
wonder why starred messages were missing ?
 
refresh the page?
 
I have another tab where it's loaded fine
 
weird
1 time css glitch?
 
Someone remind me how to set WiFi to "Access Points only" in Win7?
 
refreshing seems to have reloaded them
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Q: Why are questions off-topic for Super User being migrated from other trilogy sites?

SathyaIt's unbelievable that Super User is still being used as a dumping ground especially for questions not on-topic on Stack Overflow. Latest example: http://superuser.com/questions/194442/recommended-spam-best-practices Recommended Spam Best Practices Are there any recommended admin tools...

 
6:26 PM
@Sathya Hm. Would that "latest example" be more relevant on WebApps?
 
@Iszi well it's old now.
although @Will mentions this:
> Remigrated example to webmasters. Should be a better fit for it. – Will♦ Jan 21 at 16:56
the example is still on SU
 
6:48 PM
Good evening
 
7:06 PM
There isn't another badge after fanatic (100 consecutive days), is there?
 
welcome to Twitter @DMA57361 ;)
 
 
2 hours later…
9:18 PM
"Nobody in their right mind would ever do that" should be a vote-to-close reason on #StackExchange
3
 
10:00 PM
@Sathya, see my comments on:
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A: Why are questions off-topic for Super User being migrated from other trilogy sites?

Jeff AtwoodTo be fair, we changed the close dialog so the default close reason is now simply OFF TOPIC -- when in doubt, 3k rep users are supposed to choose off topic, not randomly pick a site to migrate it to. http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/10/new-question-migration-paths/ Now, even with that change,...

And meh, seems a rollback within seconds doesn't make an edit disappear. Wanted to make it a until I saw that Jeff has already answered...
 
Wil
10:12 PM
saw that question earlier... it is very vague and badly written, I know it is controversial, but if people like that don't understand a topic, I like giving a general over view that I think will really help them / give a nudge in the right direction...
I was just wondering what others think, or if I should just stay away from questions like that in the future... (5+ hours unanswered/not closed or locked, I thought it would be ok)
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A: how to set-up specific mail server?

WilI believe this is very awkward to answer as the question is not easy to understand, therefore I will start basic and go in to some definitions. A mail server is simply a piece of software that resides on a computer of some kind (Desktop or Server). By installing a piece of software that serves r...

 
@Wil: Well, if it were to stay on our site, it would benefit from being .
But in general, those are the Helper Vampire kind of questions and you make yourself tired by trying to answer them.
That's why I asked this question back then:
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Q: About "hammering help vampires", it's OK to just downvote & flag.

TomWijEdit: This problem is no longer occurent for me. Jeff Atwood pointed out that downvoting does solve this, he also gave his answer. Left a shortened version of the proposal for reference: The Help Vampires are often seen on our sites, but I want to state for once that the current solution doe...

Options: Point them to a question, give a short solution that will help them find their answer, ask if they could be more specific and if not, close the question for "not a real question" because it is vague and flag it so the moderators can track the user for when he continues to do so. Dowvoting is also suggested but I'm trying to stay away from that because that makes me lose reputation when the system or moderators doesn't automatically suspend them...
 
Wil
@TomWij Helper vampire? :S not heard that expression... reading
Well, the topic itself should be community FAQ as it is general rather than a specific issue, just needs to be re-written better... but it would be SF rather than SU
Thanks - I just like answering, but don't want to pi$$ people off... so, would rather ask and get opinions from time to time! (Especially as this was the sort of thing that really annoyed Diago back in the day!)
 
10:41 PM
yeah, it bothers a lot of people
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A: The Wikipedia of Long Tail Programming Questions

AarobotDuplication is a Hard Problem, and not one that is going to go away by sheer force of will. We can all bloviate all we like about how bad the situation is but what's lacking is a comprehensive solution. So far all we have are scattered suggestions that attack tiny fragments of the problem and m...

3
Q: How to prevent "Why is my question being closed?" and User Frustration?

TomWijThis question is about the earlier questions that were wondering about closed questions, it's not a duplicate! Now I'm one of them in my own question, thinking about it again it all seems clear to me now: Close-minded people not even looking into the answers? Sigh, now I see why some users a...

But now I handle it as listed in my options, and depending on my mood and my overall view on the topic I spent more/less time on the question.
 

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