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1:00 PM
the web was meant to be viewable on any screen
 
funny thing is mobile chat resizes well
desktop does not
 
yup
 
@Boris_yo KeePass is for password management. When you want to sync your data store between targets, that's a new problem that should be solved by another application
 
@djsmiley2k what resolution?
 
mobile has become an exscuse to not bother
1024x768 iirc#
 
1:01 PM
ah
that's a tricky one
Out of fashion, but 768 is still a sadly common horizontal resolution
 
errhm
 
SE use different JS trickery for mobile sites (non-responsive)
 
thats the vertical
 
@JourneymanGeek I regularly deal with crap like 1280x600
 
1:02 PM
I had a long day ;p
 
hehe
 
(said military thing. Takes me a hour and half to get home, and I'm up at half past 5)
 
the fact is designers exp[ect everone to use full screened browsers
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek 768 would be vertical
 
so they detect the resolution, not the browser window size, or something
eitherway its dumb
 
1:04 PM
thats my res
 
even more wasted space
and you only do 2 things at once? slacker!
 
i've had to expand my browsers fullscreen to hide customer stuff
 
ah k
at work i normally have 2-3 rdp sessions, outlook, 2 chrome windows, a citrix session all open
thats all because i access them so often
the desktop su chat works wel in my 'mini' browser tho
shame the actual site doesnt
 
@Burgi Now we know what you have starred. Based on that we can now construct a profile of your chat starring behavior and let an AI engineer puns that will methodically drive you insane
 
shouldn't be too difficult
 
1:08 PM
@OliverSalzburg lol
 
minion behaving today?
finished his refactoring?
 
speaking of insanity where is TOWMN?
@djsmiley2k no
 
@Burgi Their bot is monitoring the room :)
 
TOWMN, TOWMN, TOWMN, come out to play!
 
No idea
they haven't been back after the last bout of drama
 
1:19 PM
do you have to wear camo stuff while on this training thing?
 
er.
Yeah, I'm in uniform most of the day. More or less
 
live photos of @JourneymanGeek on deployment!
 
 
We use digicam ;p
I mean as a reservist <redacted> I do a lot of <redacted>,<redacted> and <redacted>
2
The food is <redacted>ly edible.
2
 
1:22 PM
lol
 
@JourneymanGeek I remember trying out the ration cookie or biscuit or whatever it is and it was awful.
 
lol
those were often the most reliably edible parts of the rations.
tho desserts were usually not bad
 
most soldiering appears to be lots of standing around trying to keep out of the wind and rain, stealing kit/food from the americans and sometimes digging holes
thats what my friends in the army told me they did
 
@Burgi I've done two of three
You've not soldiered till you've pooped in the woods
 
heh
 
1:31 PM
(granted, dogs... poop in the woods. And grass. Sometimes on your floor, if we really hate you)
 
@Burgi lol whoops
 
1:51 PM
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Q: Did I successfully destroy my portable hard drive?

T.cMy 3.0 portable HD was corrupted, I've got personal data on it and I wanted to prevent any randoms from accessing it. I am not very tool-savvy, so I just broke the circuit board, and repeatably bashed it with a hammer on both sides. I wasn't able to access the platter but I did hear some broken s...

 
obvious troll is obvious
 
!!troll
 
@Burgi Who?
 
I think he means that question dupllicate
 
2:01 PM
i'm surprised we don't have a canonical answer for harddrive destruction
 
We do!
 
we need a "canonical" tag
 
ty
i couldn't see the one about nuking harddrives
 
yeah
It dosen't have the tag. Probably predates that ;p
 
2:14 PM
hiya
 
@Boris_yo For me personally, it varies. Google Drive at the time
 
!!troll
 
2:38 PM
XD
 
So, Walmart (user) is at it again... meta.superuser.com/questions/12116/…
Multiple name changes by anyone makes me suspecious D:
 
2:52 PM
Hi. I'd like some help. I want to access a series of results from results.sofworld.org/results that say are of the type DL0071--- where * is variable. How do I do this?
I once asked this q on some SE and they asked me to use the requests library of Python. Well I don't know Python much but I still tried
Maybe I did put in the right codes and the site is protected from such requests, or I just did it wrong
So can someone please write the code for me. I guess it shud be only a couple of lines and will be a great help
 
without a valid roll number you can't access the site
and you made the biggest booboo, you asked us to write code for you
 
Try DL0071-11-B-005
And I want all results starting with DL0071
I know, I am asking for a favour
 
wget + bashscript to generate the numbers
 
If no one does it, nothing lost
 
if you need it more interactive, lua + wget + bash script
Go research archiveteam and how we grab things
 
2:55 PM
Idk what any of that means
 
enough code there to keep you going for awhile
well 1. google wget
then google bash script
 
Will I be able to do it?
OK I'll try
 
you can do anything
 
Appently you can deal with physics
this by comparison is easy D:
 
If someone teaches u properly
 
2:57 PM
It's a bit more than a couple of lines, as you're gonna need to do a lot of testing.
I taugh myself sysadmin :/
And programming (the little that I actually do)
and Physics...
And electronics...
and DIY..... etc
 
Okay okay
Tks for the help anyways
(even if I fail)
 
np, if you have questions, rather than a request to just write the code for you, feel free to ask
and we'll generally try and help
but if you want someone to do it for you, pay em.
 
also coding issues are off-topic for SU they are better suited to SO
 
That too.
 
@djsmiley2k sigh
> Terse. No gory details. And without that free-form text-entry to trip up a new, frustrated moderator whose goal should be to minimize rubbernecking.
 
3:21 PM
hi
i have a quick question
 
3.2.1....
Not quick enough ;)
 
i want to put my computer to sleep after 7 hours. there is just up to 5 hours
 
I need a hello world ... can someone please write me a few lines of code to make a hello world?
 
i was thinking :D
 
3:22 PM
@CaffeineAddiction man. If you must troll... be more creative.
@sajad might help to say what OS ;p
 
@djsmiley2k I couldn't figure out how bash as even helpful in this task. I've downloaded whether but can't figure out what command to type exactly. I googled a bit but was only able to find the command required if I know the link to download from. In this case, I don't even know what download link to put.
 
console.log("Sorry, I will try harder next time");
 
You could maybe script something that "Waits" 7h then runs the application.
 
i mean in power management on windows 7
 
@sajad if the options not there, write it ;)
 
3:23 PM
*wget
(not whether)
 
@sajad at this point tho, it may be a question for the main site
since we're talking scripting or reghax.
 
i use a win7 gadget
 
It's an interesting problem, and I think we're seeing it not just on SO/SE/etc
but the internet itself
 
 
people are only just starting to realise. the internet never forgets
 
3:25 PM
@djsmiley2k about? ;p
 
@djsmiley2k What shud I do now?
 
*should
 
can help me?
please
 
@ghosts_in_the_code test it with the ID you know - examine the link you get back
figure out how that link is generated from the infomation you entered.
 
How do I do that?
 
3:26 PM
write a bashloop to 'fill in' the generation entered for each itteration
 
@sajad ask on the main site
 
@ghosts_in_the_code I suggest you look at how to code simple scripts
 
grumbles, ponders meta post on chat etiquette again
 
@Burgi f
 
Ok great.
 
3:26 PM
bear in mind asking for software recommendations is off-topic...
 
but this is really turning into a SO issue...
 
@sajad Its a real problem - but it really is better suited for the main site.
@Burgi I cannot think of any way this would be written as a software rec ;p
 
4 mins ago, by Burgi
i use a win7 gadget
 
just incase!
 
3:29 PM
to automatically poweroff after 7 hours of inactivity>
Even then Doubly so that should be a question
 
it does great stuff
 
and you can answer it
and everyone wins
@sajad heck, post that question, I'll help you edit it if there's something wrong, and burgi can answer it
or anyone else who has alternate methods.
(offer valid till I go to bed)
 
is it grenade training tomorrow?
 
@djsmiley2k Okay I understood this much that bash is only for generating the list of roll numbers to be tried. So can I check a single roll number using wget and without bash? How?
 
@Burgi no grenades
That would be infantry.
I'm in the <redacted> branch of <redacted>
in the <redacted> <redacted> <redacted> of the singapore armed forces <redacted>th <redacted> <redacted>
 
3:38 PM
> I'm in the canine branch of the space cadets
 
;p
Jan 10 '16 at 7:28, by Journeyman Geek
Pretty much, if we get into a war, I'll be the one who people will go "Why did we get stuck with a small dog a redundant storeman?"
 
was your last war the 2nd world war?
 
I think the emergency vaguely counts
 
by all accounts my granddad liked singapore right up to the point the japanese appeared and tortured him for the next 3 years
 
3:44 PM
@djsmiley2k I tried linuxforums.org/forum/programming-scripting/… but it didn't work.
 
that tends to sour people on a place
 
@djsmiley2k How do I do that?
 
@ghosts_in_the_code these are basic debugging techniques now
 
Debugging?
 
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Q: How to most effectively debug code?

gablinBugs creeping into code can be minimized, but not entirely eliminated as it is written - programmers are, although many would disagree, only humans. When we do detect an error in our code, what can we do to weed it out? How should we approach it to make most effective use of our valuable time an...

 
3:48 PM
I know what debugging is
I'm saying it's not a problem of debugging
Idk how to input the roll no, that's all
 
neither do we
we would have to go through the same trial and error processes
 
@djsmiley2k the internet does forget ... Single Page Applications are causing the internet short term memory loss
 
sorry who are you?
 
@Burgi I dont know ... i forgot
 
if only there was a constant stream of thoughts to remind us.... ;)
 
3:58 PM
@Burgi oddly enough, I don't think its who you think it s
 
hmm....
 
didnt the last person who did thought streaming get chastised "This room is not your personal diary"
 
ok, now I'm suspecious
 
so say we all
 
is @CaffeineAddiction not the same person as @CausingUnderflowsEverywhere?
 
4:03 PM
@Burgi no, CaffeineAddiction is simple CaffeineAddiction
 
ah my apologies
 
lol, np
im one of the regulars over in Charcoal HQ
I normally just sit on the sidelines here and watch the fireworks
 
we aren't allowed fireworks
 
this is why we cant have nice things
 
someone has PTSD and someone else thinks that fireworks are a communist plot
 
4:06 PM
Hi everyone on SU. I recently upgraded my computer's OS following a hard drive crash and am now running Windows 7.
I'm finding that the fan never idles.
Even though CPU usage is very low, with much of it taken by the "System Idle Process"
 
@MarkYisri laptop or desktop?
 
@Burgi laptop
 
have you looked at the power settings?
 
hmm.. tell me more about this
 
@Burgi was the PTSD caused by <redacted> <redacted>?
 
4:07 PM
is it advanced power settings under power plans?
 
yes
@CaffeineAddiction that and rubbernecking
 
mhm I looked at that
forced my CPU maximum to 75% performance
but I'm still finding this issue
 
is it set to high performance?
 
no, power saver
 
on AC power?
 
4:09 PM
Yes, it has no battery
that died several years ago
 
malware?
 
no, I have Malwarebytes installed. Ran several full scans, there is nothing.
The computer speed is fine, it's just that even when I do nothing on it and let it sit, the fan constantly runs.
On XP it would idle.
Should I reduce the max CPU to 25% temporarily?
 
have you checked to see if there are driver updates?
 
latest drivers
 
aliens
i'm out of ideas but you could possibly post it as a question on the main site
include the make and model of the laptop
 
4:13 PM
ok, will do so. thank you for your suggestions @Burgi
 
oooh oohh! a quick test, does the fan go mental when using a linux live cd?
 
@Burgi I am running Xubuntu in dualboot, the fan goes idle
16.04
 
that sounds like a driver/power management issue then
 
@Burgi you fgorgot that someone is a dog cat
 
I seem to have solved the problem partially by changing the "Minimum processor performance state" from 5% to 0%. The fan now runs quieter, but still doesn't idle.
 
4:27 PM
@djsmiley2k i didn't have time to list all the objections against fireworks
@MarkYisri did you mention the make and model?
 
4:43 PM
lol
 
4:56 PM
bye folks
 
5:44 PM
@MarkYisri are you sure you have the latest motherboard drivers? not just graphics driver, but actually go to your laptop manufacturer and maybe, even separately, the actual motherboard manufacturer, and check for any newer-dated drivers
aside from that, some BIOSes let you mess around with power management settings for ACPI, ASPM, etc. so depending on exactly what's available to change, you might get some benefit from changing something there if Windows is just using your BIOS settings untouched
I'm gonna wager that a laptop updated from XP to 7 is probably pretty ancient, so this sort of issue is to be expected, honestly
Windows 7 itself is an ancient OS, and it's probably surprised at the stark ancientness of your ancient laptop ;)
 
6:06 PM
^^ what they said! :D
 
6:22 PM
Wow
when i frst started working in IT i'd joke sometimes, when something happened with aboslutely no cause that it was Cosmic rays
(iirc there was a huge CME at the time)
and now.... 15 years or so later... seems I was right all along :?O
 
6:38 PM
@djsmiley2k the only microelectronic part that's appreciably resistant to cosmic rays is ECC RAM
which isn't invulnerable to it, btw, but can handle a single bit-flip with grace at least
 
6:59 PM
@allquixotic lol
 
yeah
i just seem to recall that it was expected to be stupidly exceptionally rare or something
I was basically told, by multiple people 'no'
 
hey!
@djsmiley2k pics or it never happened
 
pics of... the server?
or me?
or a CME?
 
well think about it, you've got a metal cage with an induced current flowing though it under a wooden desk, under a concrete roof under 100km of air PLUS all the van allen belts...
 
...
these things cross galaxies...
 
7:08 PM
you've got to be pretty darn unlucky to get hit by a cosmic ray
 
how many computers on earth?
 
thats a coronal mass ejection, something totally different
 
Cosmic rays can be divided into two types, Galactic Cosmic Rays ("GCR"), high energy particles originating outside the solar system, and Solar energetic particles, high energy particles (predominantly protons) emitted by the sun, primarily in solar particle events. However, the term "cosmic ray" is often used to refer to only the GCR flux. Despite the nomenclature "galactic", GCRs may originate within or outside the galaxy (as discussed in the source section above).
 
> Cosmic rays are high-energy radiation, mainly originating outside the Solar System.[1] Upon impact with the Earth's atmosphere, cosmic rays can produce showers of secondary particles that sometimes reach the surface.
sometimes
 
Solar energetic particles (SEP) are high-energy particles coming from the Sun. They were first observed in the early 1940s. They consist of protons, electrons and HZE ions with energy ranging from a few tens of keV to GeV (the fastest particles can reach 80% of the speed of light). They are of particular interest and importance because they can endanger life in outer space (especially particles above 40 MeV).

Solar energetic particles can originate either from a solar-flare site or by _shock waves associated with coronal mass ejections (CMEs)_. However, only about 1% of CMEs produce strong
 
7:11 PM
> A coronal mass ejection (CME) is an unusually large release of plasma and magnetic field from the solar corona. They often follow solar flares and are normally present during a solar prominence eruption. The plasma is released into the solar wind, and can be observed in coronagraph imagery.
 
errr ok
 
A coronal mass ejection (CME) is an unusually large release of plasma and magnetic field from the solar corona. They often follow solar flares and are normally present during a solar prominence eruption. The plasma is released into the solar wind, and can be observed in coronagraph imagery. Coronal mass ejections are often associated with other forms of solar activity, but a broadly accepted theoretical understanding of these relationships has not been established. CMEs most often originate from active regions on the Sun's surface, such as groupings of sunspots associated with frequent flares....
 
yes
 
Cosmic rays are high-energy radiation, mainly originating outside the Solar System. Upon impact with the Earth's atmosphere, cosmic rays can produce showers of secondary particles that sometimes reach the surface. Composed primarily of high-energy protons and atomic nuclei, they are of mysterious origin. Data from the Fermi space telescope (2013) have been interpreted as evidence that a significant fraction of primary cosmic rays originate from the supernovae explosions of stars. Active galactic nuclei probably also produce cosmic rays. == Etymology == The term ray is a historical accident, as...
 
which can contain solar energetic particles aka cosmic rays
i've been through all these pages too
 
7:14 PM
brb going to fill my car with dead cosmic rays
 
7:28 PM
@Burgi dead cosmic rays? like alpha particles and whatnot? or do you mean dinosaur juice?
probably very few cosmic ray byproducts in dino juice... expended photon energy maybe quite a lot...
 
@Burgi we get hit with thousands of them per day
 
@allquixotic You personally? That must hurt...
 
@Mokubai errr
there's like 100's passing through your thumb nail every second
litterally, blasted
 
@djsmiley2k you mean neutrinos? slightly different to cosmic rays, which tend to be assumed to be a high energy massive particle
Trillions of neutrinos pass through your hand every second, probably a good few gamma rays, then alpha/beta particles a lot less
 
ah ok
then maybe them i'm thinking of.
yeah, otherwise I'd never of made the 1st in a life time chance of hitting the right bit on ram, with solar flares and cosmic rays
 
yup yup
Sorry, people were helping me confuse my things that'll kill you.
 
Oh, I see the confusion. In the wiki article it states
> Upon impact with the Earth's atmosphere, cosmic rays can produce showers of secondary particles that sometimes reach the surface. Composed primarily of high-energy protons and atomic nuclei, they are of mysterious origin.
The cosmic ray itself is a high energy proton or other nuclei, but the shower of byproducts as the cosmic ray hits the atmosphere can involve a lot of other radiation. Beta and alpha radiation is likely to be absorbed in the atmosphere, leaving a shower of gamma and neutrino radiation. You're unlikely to be hit by a cosmic ray itself.
Science is awesome
!!wiki magnetar
 
A magnetar is a type of neutron star with an extremely powerful magnetic field. The magnetic field decay powers the emission of high-energy electromagnetic radiation, particularly X-rays and gamma rays. The theory regarding these objects was proposed by Robert Duncan and Christopher Thompson in 1992, but the first recorded burst of gamma rays thought to have been from a magnetar had been detected on March 5, 1979. During the following decade, the magnetar hypothesis became widely accepted as a likely explanation for soft gamma repeaters (SGRs) and anomalous X-ray pulsars (AXPs). == Description... ==
 
@Mokubai the high cost of petrol these days purely down to the fact they hand select the fuel molecules that were once hit by a stray cosmic ray
 

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