Root Access

Dog

2:00 PM

!!caaaaaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

Dog

And I'm done

Oh shit still got an hour left

That Brazilian Guy

I don't think I can stand one more hour of pic flooding.

allquicatic

I have a question I want to ask the regulars here but not in a publicly visible room

Dog

Let's play a game

allquicatic

2:02 PM

it's just a tech/work question sorta

Dog

@allquicatic I was gonna ask, what do you guys use for chat when it comes to stuff outside of chat?

Was it Telegram or some shit

That Brazilian Guy

@allquicatic There's still that abandoned telegram group.

allquicatic

@Dog traditionally, Bob, Geek, Mokubai and I use Gitter.im

we've been using that way longer than telegram

Dog

Lol my poor data allowance

allquicatic

@Dog is that about 40 GB of overage fees, or do you have an unmetered very slow kbit/s safety net after you exceed your cap?

arda

2:05 PM

@allquicatic I hope the latter.

Dog

@allquicatic There's a particular speedtesting application whose data doesn't count towards the allowance

I'm trying to feed a proxy through it

allquicatic

I'd actually be fine with the unmetered 256 kb/s type plan if they would push it over LTE instead of 1x CDMA2000... the signal strength and latency difference is what kills it, not the bitrate

otherwise it'd be perfectly suitable for web browsing and email

Dog

But for normal data there's a cap so your data just cuts off if you hit the limit (or on my other network it gets limited to 64kbps on 3G, and 0 on 4G)

@allquicatic Indeed, it'd even be better for the network, since 256kb/s capacity is going to have less of an impact on LTE

allquicatic

@Dog also, not relevant today but will be in the future: only LTE on the U.S. cellular networks has IPv6 support

2G/3G don't and never will get it

Dog

I really wish they'd start refarming 3G spectrum already...

allquicatic

2:08 PM

also, some phones can do a phone call and LTE at the same time, but no phone that I know of can do 2G/3G and phone call at the same time

Dog

Half the time the busier networks are faster on 3G than on 4G now, mainly because they have 100% 4G coverage and 3G just gets zero use

arda

None of the turkish systems have ipv6, be mobile, be pc.

Dog

@allquicatic Opposite here :-P

allquicatic

@Dog really?

Dog

3G phones can all do data and phone at the same time, no 4G phones (or very few) can

Only one of our 4 networks have VoLTE, and it's incomplete

Everyone else just falls back to 3G for voice.

allquicatic

2:09 PM

most Android phones even today that are sold in the US for Verizon or Sprint have a separate, dedicated LTE modem SIP and antenna, and another separate antenna and modem for the legacy CDMA technology

arda

ouch

Dog

3G WCDMA has always supported simultaneous voice + data. 2G GSM sorta does with post-EDGE extensions

@allquicatic Ah yeah, you and your CDMA

allquicatic

I imagine AT&T, being GSM based, has the same problem as the UK

Dog

(The reason most international phones don't work there)

arda

All 3 of our mobile providers in turkey supports volte apparently

Dog

2:11 PM

I dunno how many people have implemented voice + data on 2G tbh, I doubt it's many, but I basically never use 2G anymore since it's basically useless except as standby for 999/911 calls

DavidPostill

@allquicatic Feel free to email me (you should have my email address)

arda

But all between the same operator

Dog

Oh yeah, apparently there's some inter-operator compatibility issues that's slowing down VoLTE rollout here

allquicatic

funnily enough, iPhones are so integrated and optimized in their hardware layout that, at least as of the iPhone 6S / 6S Plus, all cellular voice and data functions are done through a single Qualcomm SIP with one antenna transceiver that covers all relevant 2G, 3G and 4G bands, which prevents CDMA iPhones from doing data and voice at the same time unless it's VoLTE (which is implemented, but doesn't always work)

Dog

I guess it's cause they want to "do it right" with pure IPv6 IP all the way rather than using CSFB

allquicatic

2:12 PM

I'm not sure if the iPhone 7, with its radically different baseband chip design, has the same problem or not

I need to test it but I don't have a phone number to call atm

Dog

@allquicatic TBH, all modern phones are like that (barring CDMA perhaps). Hence the reason CDMA phones still have to use different chipsets

In fact, barring that US proprietary stuff, I've never heard of any phone ever that has more than one RF chain

allquicatic

we have a TON of non-cellular-voice phone call options, though: there's VoLTE, Facetime, Skype, Google Voice, WiFi Calling, plus all the other "less traditional" VoIP services like Teamspeak, Discord, etc etc

arda

worst part is that when you're tethering and get a call, even though you don't answer it, it causes your phone to fallback, interrupting the internet access.

allquicatic

but for calling the PSTN (when dialing out) I usually use my Skype dial out subscription if I'm also using data

Dog

@allquicatic Yeah, I have OTT UMA via an app that lets me make and receive voice and SMS over any IP network and any IP-connected device (even my laptop)

@arda Thankfully doesn't happen here for two reasons: 1) Fallback doesn't interrupt internet access, and 2) I've disabled it

djsmiley2k

2:15 PM

@arda i litterally almost never get calls

allquicatic

@Dog it was quite a shock for me when moving from Android to an iPhone 6S Plus about a year ago when I couldn't do a phone call and data at the same time; I was trying to look up info online while talking to a car dealership over Bluetooth on a phone call that came in to me (not me dialing out) and it came in over the PSTN and not even VoLTE due to bad LTE signal

Dog

I gotta say though, I suspect LTE, being an LT E of UMTS/GSM probably integrates a lot better with our networks here than it does with CDMA/EVDO systems

allquicatic

I was like "uhhh... lemme call you back after I write this down"

arda

@djsmiley2k It usually affects cousin, who I play online games a lot with. He tethers his internet so that his pings are lower.

His GF keeps calling him lol

Dog

@allquicatic Yeah, US proprietary stuff :-P I understand practically nothing about that, other than IIRC there were some phones that needed dual radios

allquicatic

2:16 PM

@Dog there's a separate set of US-based (and other countries that use CDMA, including Japan IIRC) standards for things like Layer 3 persistence (handoff of IP addresses and active sockets, etc without interruption) between the legacy CDMA system and LTE

Dog

When I'm over in the US I've only ever used GSM/UMTS/LTE networks anyway, because well, none of my hardware supports anything else

allquicatic

so if you're in a moving vehicle and you go from being within good LTE coverage to only being within EvDO or CDMA2000 coverage, in theory, unless you're using IPv6, your connections should remain active

barring any timeouts due to the drastically reduced throughput and increased latency

Dog

Thankfully in the UK we're already at a stage where I can pretty much lock my phone to LTE only 100% of the time

Within 2 years, hopefully, we'll be at the point where we have 100% LTE coverage (relative to existing 2G/3G)

allquicatic

@Dog Verizon at least, and possibly other carriers, have semi-aggressively branded a series of recent phone releases -- Android, Windows Mobile, and (I think) even Apple -- as "World Phones", which in theory means that it has the hardware and firmware/software support to roam to almost any cellular voice or data band in the world

Dog

Around 98-99% of our urban masts are LTE enabled already, so there's no difference in coverage, and about 80% of rural masts anywhere I actually visit.

allquicatic

2:19 PM

you can take a so-called World Phone and run it fine on AT&T's GSM-based voice network and get good LTE too

Dog

@allquicatic Yeah, IIRC for the last few generations handset manufacturers have been making a thing about "Global LTE support" too

But nowadays it's sorta standard (Unless you're @Bob, who still has a hard time with band support :-P)

All flagship handsets basically come with support for 20+ LTE bands now

allquicatic

I think certain carriers still ask the handset developer to disable certain bands in software though

Dog

And thankfully GSM/WCDMA only ever used 4-5 bands each, even in the US, which just about everything supports as standard.

allquicatic

because, for example, if you buy an iPhone from AT&T or one of their resellers in the AT&T supply chain, you CANNOT just bring that phone over to Verizon and access all of Verizon's LTE bands

Dog

I think my last 6 phones all supported 850/900/1700/1800/1900

allquicatic

2:21 PM

I think you can access a subset of them? but definitely not Band 4

Dog

@allquicatic Arf.

allquicatic

it's the same exact hardware under the cover

Dog

Yeah US is the only place I know of (outside Japan, which is weird) that still has carrier-specific phone bands. Or carrier-specific customizations on phones in general

allquicatic

so they're doing something in software or firmware to restrict it

@Dog in theory Apple is supposed to sell the exact same phone, from hardware to software, to every customer regardless of carrier; in practice, phones sold to certain carriers seem to have extremely minor, barely noticeable differences

such as the implementation of a WiFi/USB/Bluetooth tethering "switch" that enables or disables it based on your plan with the carrier

and the disabling of competitors' LTE bands. fuckers

I believe the hardware is the same regardless though

the Android side is much, MUCH worse when it comes to carrier customizations

the entire OS is literally released by (and directly modified by) the carrier once they receive the vanilla code from the handset manufacturer

That Brazilian Guy

@Dog Brazil has both. And carrier-locked phones.

allquicatic

2:23 PM

and they make completely arbitrary, carrier-specific, proprietary changes

bloatware, etc

Dog

@ThatBrazilianGuy We have carrier locks but they are all obliged to unlock on request

allquicatic

so a Galaxy S7 on Verizon is: Torvalds Linux dicked with by Google Android dicked with by Samsung and polluted with TouchWiz and company-proprietary apps dicked with by Verizon and polluted with bloatware and company-proprietary apps

Dog

@allquicatic We have all that bloatware too, but it's all identical hardware, and trivially easy to flash with vanilla/unbranded firmware

If you buy from an independent retailer then all networks' phones come stock/unbranded

For Samsung at least you don't even have to root/unlock it to flash unbranded firmware

allquicatic

@Dog that's another thing that US carriers do: they lock the bootloader with security that runs deep into the hardware (e-fuses, etc.) to make it near impossible to flash the bootloader; the most you can usually get is a root exploit allowing you to customize some of the software, but often that doesn't even allow you to install your own kernel

Dog

Aanyway, I gotta go see what masts my operator has built this month (yay for javascript hack)

That Brazilian Guy

2:27 PM

@allquicatic Yuck!

Dog

@allquicatic Hmm, Samsung phones don't need the bootloader unlocked to flash Samsung stock firmwares

So you can go from branded => unbranded => another operator's branded firmware if it's unmodified stock and signed by Samsung, without unlocking the bootloader

allquicatic

I believe many phones I owned in the past, when I looked into this, had a read-only bootloader partition that contained the kernel and boot code that couldn't be modified even after a successful root exploit

it was locked down at the hardware level

That Brazilian Guy

@Dog I think they do here too, but since the only way (that I know of) of getting a carrier-locked phone is via a contract, you'd have to wait the contract period to end, AFAIK.

allquicatic

this makes it impossible to flash, say, CM for example

That Brazilian Guy

Strangely, my wife bought a Sony Xperia Z3 last month on a regular store and its boot animation is the name of a carrier that she never used. It's not locked tho.

@allquicatic My Moto G4 had its bootloader locked, and I had to contact motorola, send them my IMEI, waive my warranty and then get an unlock code and insert it via fastboot.

I waited one year so the warranty was over anyway.

arda

2:30 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy sony has it similar

You do it online though, but still, you need to send imei, waive warranty and insert with fastboot

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah, the whole process was automated online.

arda

worst part is that a week after I rooted, the dirtyc0w exploit popped up, allowing partial root (enough to do what I'm doing atm) without waiving warranty.

allquicatic

@ThatBrazilianGuy they won't even let you do that for US branded phones

some bullshit about protecting the integrity of the network

That Brazilian Guy

Sure. Just like I had to throw away my coke can when entering the movie theater for "security reasons".

Dog

Ah shit I need to drive to Glasgow

@arda HTC used to have a similar one too, back in the days of the HTC Sensation

Dunno what they do now

Maybe I should have done the two hours of driving when I had a 3 hour break instead of spamming Tinder screenshots

Burgi

2:37 PM

yes

Dog

But Tinder makes me so...

ergh

jokerdino

2:51 PM

@Dog i.imgur.com/0sa6jrV.gifv

Maybe you already saw it before.

Dog

@jokerdino No I have't

> Did you know? You have enough Avios for a return flight from London to Miami in Economy. The full Avios price is 32,500 Avios + taxes, fees and carrier charges. Other Avios & Money price options may be available. Avios Recommendation

Interesting. I've been needing to find somewhere to spend Christmas, but Miami wasn't really on my list

Bob

@allquicatic Hmm?

Dog

Alrighty... time to find myself a bed, glue my laptop to it, and then hunt down some transmitters

Bob

@allquicatic Oh? You can get that here if you want :P

@allquicatic vividwireless.com.au

$89/month, 10/1 LTE unmetered

@Dog :(

Europe is mostly unified, but Australia and Asia...

@Dog IIRC there's still no root for the US/Snapdragon S7 models.

@ThatBrazilianGuy That's especially fun because they can make me waive all the warranty they want, but I'm still protected by consumer guarantees by law. Which means obvious hardware faults that have nothing to do with software must still be repaired.

allquicatic

3:32 PM

@Bob more reliable and 250% faster than the ADSL here. I'd take that.

(if I didn't already have unlimited, unthrottled LTE)

@Bob Gitter

too lazy to type a GUID into Allo

BTW, Delimiter is doing a US-based Dual E5420 (Core 2 era quad core) with 24 GB RAM, 2 x 500 GB HDD, 1 IPv4, 10 TB bandwidth, /64 IPv6, for $200/year, if anyone wants a box for an average of $16.66/month with weak CPU, unimpressive I/O perf, but perfectly suitable for a light web server or a VPN

cheaper than most VPSes with 0.5 - 2 GB of RAM

good total CPU throughput but bad single thread perf

it's a special so it's not on their site

it's DDR2 IIRC

Burgi

are there companies that will regression test your software?

allquicatic

@Burgi Testing as a Service - look it up

Burgi

3:47 PM

ty

HackToHell

3:59 PM

Damn github.com/recharts/recharts/issues/265

Boris_yo

4:27 PM

Was using different "Send from" email address in Gmail to send email to someone anonymously but after checking with different Gmail account, my name and email address is revealed next to "Send from" address. What? I am using Android.net email address which forward incoming email to my main Gmail address. What is wrong here?

HackToHell

This is so bloody true

commitstrip.com/en/2014/11/25/west-side-project-story

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allquicatic

@HackToHell LOL

That Brazilian Guy

You all talking about disassembling devices and Android warranties... My phone just died. I BLAME RA!!!

I'm trying to charge my Moto G 1st gen LTE (XT1040) but nothing happens except for a white LED being lit.

Google says I have to either press power, or power + volume up, or power + volume down, for 1 minute, or maybe 3, or 5...

@Boris_yo Dear Boss: I hate you, go die in a fire. Sincerely, @NotBoris_yo

Burgi

4:45 PM

just found this in a massive snakey nested if statement

      /**
       *
       *
       *
       *
       * HAVE A BREAK, HAVE A KITKAT.
       *
       *
       *
       *
       */

wtf....

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi Sponsored code ;p

Was it in the Android 4.4 source code?

Burgi

no

:(

That Brazilian Guy

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bwDraco

Writing Easter eggs and whimsical comments are a way for programmers to divert themselves away from the stress of doing real code. Programming is far more stressful than you think.

!!/learn epicfail <>https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlIAj4zFYe6XoOY/giphy.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco Command epicfail learned

bwDraco

4:53 PM

!!/forget epicfail

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco Command epicfail forgotten.

allquicatic

@ThatBrazilianGuy that made me laugh thanks

bwDraco

!!/learn funnyfails <>https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlIAj4zFYe6XoOY/giphy.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco Command funnyfails learned

bwDraco

A better name for the command.

That Brazilian Guy

4:54 PM

I don't think it's worth a command. I can't see many situations that would call for it.

bwDraco

We could all use some humor once in a while.

2

That Brazilian Guy

@allquicatic It just popped up on my FB stream with "15 persons shared this".

bwDraco

5:07 PM

As much as unexpected behavior like this annoys me, Easter eggs exist for a reason: "Writing Easter eggs and whimsical comments are a way for programmers to divert themselves away from the stress of doing real code. Programming is far more stressful than you think." Hence, I doubt this proposal will get very far. — bwDraco 17 secs ago

djsmiley2k

5:48 PM

ffs why is handling magnet links such a pita

Burgi

6:03 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy didn't @JourneymanGeek link that earlier?

allquicatic

6:51 PM

reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/5b0wyy/…

Boris_yo

@ThatBrazilianGuy Return-Path in email header blows my cover. If I can't conceal it, how do I forge it?

DavidPostill

@Boris_yo Send the email using telnet.

Send spoofed emails with telnet

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi Did he? Dunno.

FOR FUCKS SAKE 65 MINUTES WAITING IN LINE AT THE BANK

While amidst the informational posters there's one saying "local laws state the maximum waiting time is 15min".

(Hey, I just used a word that FF's dictionary didin't know about! Yay me!)

Anyhow, they were taking nearly 7min between customers.

Someone banged angrily at the cubicle-like walls. (I wonder who could've it been)

Like magic, security and some necktie-wearing employee showed up

Boris_yo

7:07 PM

@DavidPostill What experience level is required?

@ThatBrazilianGuy 9 customers. Not that bad. I sat 90 minutes and each took 15-20 minutes.

That Brazilian Guy

They asked who was responsible. No one of the ~40 persons answered.

They asked again who did this. An older man replied: "Everyone did this. Every one of us waiting 40+ minutes did this".

Boris_yo

@ThatBrazilianGuy Were you 41th?

That Brazilian Guy

They somehow managed to lower the waiting time to ~1min

@Boris_yo No. I am the one who knocked.

Boris_yo

@ThatBrazilianGuy Yes. 41st. Outside of the box of the rest 40 customers. The one.

^ This. This is what should be annihilated on the internets.

Slimy, sellouts selling their souls!

That Brazilian Guy

@Boris_yo I think I was the last straw. When the bank staff returned to their side, some customers said I was right in having made noise.

Boris_yo

7:12 PM

The advertisers of course.

That Brazilian Guy

I still intend on complain to the regulatory financial institution.

@Boris_yo What? No, the bane of the internet are thin and attractive women. Obviously.

Boris_yo

“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”

Hah

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

7:39 PM

@bwDraco yes especially when you patch 5 bugs, implement something new, and your testing concluded it's fine, until you launch it to the larger audience, and bam you have 7 new bugs now.

When can you stop and take a break?

dang 24 GB

@allquicatic where do I find the deal?

allquicatic

@Boris_yo uBlock Origin

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere it's an invite-only deal; I can probably give you a link or code

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh

how much would ddos protection cost

allquicatic

del.im/eow4nov2016int

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

hey who put "I'm dumb" on the star wall now that is completely rude. @Bob is not dumb!

bwDraco

7:56 PM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Certainly not me. Perhaps @Dog?

If it's a genuine problem, I can get a room owner to clear the star on it.

@allquicatic I have an Adblock Plus configuration that's greatly slimmed down to filter out only a small, particularly annoying subset of content like Bounce Exchange popups.

I try not to block ads unless they're particularly intrusive.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I was mostly sarcastic. We could all use some humor once in a while.

bwDraco

:-)

allquicatic

@bwDraco using Adblock Plus in the era of uBlock Origin is like using Internet Explorer in the era of Firefox/Chrome/Edge

there's just no good reason to do it

it's strictly worse

(slower, mainly)

bwDraco

Hmm. I've looked into switching but haven't really seen a convincing reason to do so given the custom configuration. I suppose it shouldn't be hard to migrate the lists...

djsmiley2k

ublock is nicer on the e ye to configure tbh

allquicatic

8:10 PM

uBlock Origin supports almost all ABP rules (if not actually all)

djsmiley2k

it's easier to see what's broken

bwDraco

I'll probably switch once I get a chance.

Preparing uBlock Origin...

Updating filters...

I've disabled most of the filters except for those that block malware. I'll import my custom lists next.

Dog

Suddenly, cats

@allquicatic :--(

bwDraco

...and I'm pretty much done.

Dog

Oh you've got to be kidding me

FUCK YOU MICROSOFT GO DIE IN A FIRE

bwDraco

8:20 PM

All I ask of a content-blocking plugin is to block very specific kinds of content and protect me against malicious websites, not block ads in general.

Adblock Plus is disabled and may be removed in the future.

Dog

I had so much shit open and Windows decides to just restart itself without asking

Also knocks all my servers and file shares offline cause y'know, kinda happens when the server is down, and it can't reboot without manual intervention so it was just stuck in the boot menu all day

And a few hundred broken torrents as well cause yaknow, uTorrent doesn't like it when you yank the filesystem it's running on

At least MSPaint sorta half-recovered 1/4 of the stuff that was open? THANKS MICROSOFT

FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU MICROSOFT FUCK YOU…

I'm supposed to be on my way to a party but now I've gotta spend like an hour bringing all this shit back online

bwDraco

@Dog That's going a bit too far.

Dog

Oh yeah and breaking my in-progress downloads too, but that's like the least of my worries

> The process C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe (VD) has initiated the restart of computer VD on behalf of user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM for the following reason: Operating System: Service pack (Planned)
Reason Code: 0x80020010
Shutdown Type: restart
Comment:

/me deletes svchost.exe

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allquicatic

@Dog a future release is going to actually get rid of svchost

Dog

AND IT WAS FOR A WINDOWS DEFENDER DEFINITION UPDATE?! FFS

@allquicatic I thought they were going to unbundle services, not remove them completely

bwDraco

8:29 PM

@Dog I was very, very tempted to flag this. Please watch your language; we want this room to be safe for work.

allquicatic

@Dog they'll probably still have a service host process, but it'll be a 1:1 relationship between services and processes

bwDraco

The occasional expletive generally isn't an issue, but please keep it reasonable.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh no Cat

Dog

@allquicatic Yeah, I know that thing, I like it

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Dog what happens if you hook all log off shut down restart functions in all the processes and add in some code that opens a confirmation pop-up ?

DLL injection ftw

since you're a kernel programmer I think you'll probably be able to make such a dll and figure out how to inject it using the system account

m!cr0$H!t.. soft

bwDraco

8:37 PM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That's pretty drastic.

!!/funnyfails

ChatBot John Cavil

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Not really, I mean why else would microsoft allow things like dll injections. Clearly they want windows to be as customizeable as possible, so why not hook those functions :D

Dog

Right if this doesn't disable the auto reboot I don't know what will

COME ON MICROSOFT, GIVE ME ANOTHER UPDATE. I DARE YOU.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I deleted the reboot program

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh god which executable is that

imagine if SFC is in one of the 200 task scheduler scheduled tasks and it replaces the missing file while you're at your party

Dog

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I deleted that too

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

8:43 PM

what's better, like what I did to google update because every time I opened a google program it would appear back in either task sched, services, or explorer run.

add an image hijack

Dog

I DELETED EVERYTHING

I should run the cloned VM from a few weeks ago to see if the disable restart thing worked, cause I can't remember if I tried it before already, I'm pretty sure I already disable the task as per the last SU answer but it still rebooted

Anyway now im fucking late

GRR

/me punches microsoft in the balls

djsmiley2k

you always could... not run windows

that'll stop em

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options

add a key called the name of the file.

then REG_SZ : Debugger

set that to null
!!!!!

when the process' loader tries to load the image, it will check that registry key for the existance of the name of the file/process, and the Debugger string is for specifiying a debugger that will actually start the process instead of the loader. so basically it will start nothing and exit. You'll get a "this program couldnt be found" popup when something tries opening it

that's probably better than disabling routine sfc 's, and keeping a backup of the file if you ever need to restore it, you can just make a blank register key with the file name, export as a reg file. then apply the patch, and export again, now you have

enable and disable restart functionatily scripts on your desktop

anyways have a nice party

@djsmiley2k nice profile picture idk what it is

djsmiley2k

it's a disk dying

oh wait

hahaha

@arda might be abl eot explain it

bwDraco

So who here uses Windows File History?

Right now, I have 194 GiB of total data backed up, compressed to 165 GiB (using NTFS compression), with more than 140,000 total files in the history.

DavidPostill

9:20 PM

@Boris_yo Read the link - it's trivial.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

9:41 PM

woow guys I just updated to firefox 49.0.02 and it has a graphics update cause the colours look a lot nicer now!

bwDraco

*sigh*

It's that time of year again. Time to set the clocks back. It's supposed to be tomorrow night, but there are so many devices that have RTCs and need to be manually adjusted.

I've already adjusted most of my less-used devices against my radio-controlled watch (which I got just two days ago).

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

time to update to digital!

ends in 2 days at 2 am

bwDraco

The hardest device to set used to be my old watch: to get a readout that isn't misleading, I would need to align the minute hand properly (a bit of play can cause the minute hand to, for example, fall in between minutes when the second hand is at 00).

My new watch has analog display but is internally digitally-controlled (a necessity for radio timekeeping). The only thing that needs to be done is to set the time zone from UTC-4 to UTC-5.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco What's a watch? ;p

I haven't owned a watch for at least 10 years ... and I haven't missed having one.

@bwDraco Send it back. A proper radio time keeping watch should be able to adjust for time zone changes automatically. My phone manages it :)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh yeah I had my watch for like 3 months then it got replaced by my smartphone, well maybe a year maximum

bwDraco

9:54 PM

@DavidPostill I tend to do things the old-fashioned way, and having the time on my wrist is still more convenient than pulling out my phone.

Besides, it's a fashion statement and shows that you care about doing things in a timely fashion.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco lol

bwDraco

businessinsider.com/why-every-guy-should-wear-a-watch-2016-1

I'm not exactly into smartwatches, either.

lifehack.org/323387/…

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@bwDraco I hope you dont always bring your phone along to save yourself from the radiation your phone gives off

bwDraco

lol

My phone is generally at my desk when I'm not on the field, though it may sometimes be in my pocket.

Not that cell phone radiation is known to be particularly harmful (there are some reports of potential adverse effects but they seem to be rare issues rather than a real hazard).

DavidPostill

I'm lucky - my internal clock is reasonably accurate - to within a couple of minutes. I even wake up just before my alarm clock goes off.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

10:03 PM

@bwDraco, cell phones are only 20 years old. how can you be sure they won't have long term health affects that no one notices?!

David you are the best

bwDraco

forbes.com/sites/arieladams/2013/06/27/…

lol

I'm not into these sorts of timepieces.

I like to make a fashion statement but I don't want to be too flashy about it.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Even if I was I can't afford to buy any of them ...

bwDraco

Our family has always considered a solid timepiece to be a worthwhile investment, though it's very unusual to spend more than $500 on one.

(my new Seiko ran me just short of $400)

I personally don't like stepping out of the house without my watch on.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco You feel naked, right? ;p

bwDraco

Yup. ;p

Ben N

10:12 PM

Hmhm, I wonder how hard it would be to write a thing that hooks the shutdown-initiating functions and only allows it to proceed if, say, a certain key is held down

DavidPostill

lol

"As it happens, legitimately on this occasion, there were a number of flagged comments against a particularly active user (a moderator). The existing code was therefore raising an additional flag when any of their comments got deleted. Additionally, it also includes the extra flag it adds as one of the things to worry about, so theoretically it could continue indefinitely, just adding flags that there are flags, which are the flags it added because there are flags, etc. A nasty feedback loop. "

Ben N

It looks like the svchost.exe process responsible for the Windows Update service isn't protected, so just that one could be hooked

I wonder if EasyHook would work on it

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