Root Access

2:00 AM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere in windows 10 (dont know about 8) the "system" process, or general windows system now (claims to) have a new compression routine for ram. The total ramifications of that are yet to be discovered by me, but i assume it is quick and dirty find empty space and "compress" that.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yeah but Im not even in windows 8 where apparantly they do the shared memory by passing references to common libaries instead of allocating the memory every time

im in windows 7

Dog

@Bob Someone smashed in the locker's computer terminal so it doesn't work

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That's virtual address space, which is different from memory. Virtual memory in Windows is how much it can allocate in total, how much backing store it has. The sum of physical and page file.

Dog

I told them, they said they'd get back to me, they didn't

Instead I get automated reminders to pick shit up from the locker that I can't pick up because they haven't fixed the broken locker

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh WS stands for working set doesnt it

Bob

2:01 AM

Virtual address space is how much is addressable by each individual process, but we're never going to see the entire virtual address space allocated because there's simply not enough storage for it.

Dog

Also, running your own infrastructure takes effort, blargh

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Shared memory (DLLs, basically) have been a thing in Windows since... hm. definitely NT 4.x+, but I'm pretty sure 9x, 3.x, maybe even earlier.

Dog

I have a router that routes, and firewalls, and VPNs, and DHCPs, but now I need to make it host a local DNS too

Then I need to make the DNS interface-specific and also route more routes

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Dog

It's almost as if people sell routers with default settings that just work out of the box targeted at people who can't be bothered doing all of it themselves

Journeyman Geek

2:03 AM

@Dog that's half the point tho

Michael Frank

@Dog It does. I decided to implement AD at home.

Boy was that an annoying mistake.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Bob So, if programs are using 10GB of private bytes, and firefox starts up, it can request a virtual size of up to 6GB?

Dog

@MichaelFrank I was considering doing that in the next few weeks

Firstly cause managing separate accounts on all my devices is a pain, especially when it's all just the same username and password anyway, and secondly because DirectAccess is cool

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere If your virtual memory is 16 GB. But you're ignoring shared there.

You should also check the total shared. RAMMap is the easiest way to check that, I think.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Thank you @Bob for your time and effort ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Love you! <3 :)

Dog

2:05 AM

Thank you Causing Underflows Everywhere for causing underflows

I want to set up my own AD with Kerberos but I'm scared it'll be difficult

I don't like difficult, I'm a cat.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh you know it's always a pleasure Cat :)

Dog

But then all my VMs and devices and Linux boxes can all share the same credentials

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere At the end of the day, you're limited by the remaining commit available. The problem of not having a page file is you restrict the commit available enough that it starts reserving unused physical RAM.

You can run with that if you want, but it's literally wasted resources.

Dog

Single sign-on, VPN, DirectAccess, RDP, the lot

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Bob OMG IT'S BY MARK!!!!!!!!!!!! Did Bryan help?

I Am A Bot

2:08 AM

I Am A Bot

Michael Frank

@Dog omg I tried this... then I tried to set up roaming accounts and it all broke.

Dog

@MichaelFrank Roaming accounts or roaming user profiles?

The latter breaks a lot

Michael Frank

user profiles.

Dog

Yeah, that's painful even in the best enterprise environments

Ben N

Roaming user profiles and VDS are both insanely difficult to set up

Other than that, AD is pretty painless

And you can even use PowerShell to install it!

Dog

2:09 AM

@BenN I'm surprised you haven't figured out an easy way to de-pain it with Powershell

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Hmm just to let you guys know I don't think I Am a bot is who you think he is

Michael Frank

Isn't it already installed when you install Win Server?

Ben N

You need to install the Directory Services role (not sure of the exact name) and then promote the machine to domain controller, but yeah, all the components ship with it

MDT can even do it at deployment time

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: RAMMap64.exe
Application Version: 1.50.0.0
Application Timestamp: 56a9c074
Fault Module Name: RAMMap64.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.50.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 56a9c074
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000000000001d903
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 4105
Additional Information 1: 027d
Additional Information 2: 027d9baaaaf88f62f6908a3f3e247962
Additional Information 3: 596e
Additional Information 4: 596e0a38e75c24cb8c516e8e76b02b7f

Journeyman Geek

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere no it's Becky.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

2:12 AM

omg

I love Becky!

Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them. ooooooh!~

Dog

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Who do you think he is?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@IAmABot you provided an extensive answer to that one superuser question you answered with pictures and everything. Thank you for your contribution!

I Am A Bot

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I am a bot.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

it must be Becky, JourneyMan is never wrong.

@IAmABot hello

Michael Frank

I bet JMG has a list of peoples chat IDs and their associated personas.

Journeyman Geek

2:15 AM

No. It's no it's Becky

noitsbecky

No, I'm becky.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh no. you're not Becky

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank only 3 people here have regular alt accoubtsm. 20 of them's dog.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

you're becky . nice try though

I Am A Bot

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I am a bot

Psycogeek

2:16 AM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere i am an advocate of having everything in ram too, and for quite some time did not use a paging file. Instead i uninstalled programs that ~~SUCK~~ think they own the whole machine, and "don't work well with others" :-) Eventually programs would Fail completely when there was no visable paging file created (sometimes the OS will make a psudo one anyway) . A few games, and some programs will not even run , if there is not some paging file set out in windows 7. so i make a small one.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@IAmABot yes yes keep repeating the same line until you get caught by a bot for "spamming" and removed perhaps when you can return and not be a bot

Bob

hm. whoops. I appear to have crashed an Azure VM by consuming RAM

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh I dont even uninstall programs I just make sure they have no way of starting

noitsbecky

@Bob Windows or Linux?

Bob

@noitsbecky Windows

Michael Frank

2:17 AM

@Bob nomnomnomnom

noitsbecky

@Bob Huh

Linux's OOM killer is a clusterfuck and a half, but Windows is rather robust last I recall

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@ noitsbecky Dog, is that you?

noitsbecky

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere No, it's becky.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@noitsbecky I believe you meant to type flustercluck, now please do correct it before my eyes melt.

noitsbecky

Obviously.

Bob

2:19 AM

@noitsbecky Yea. I think the hypervisor restarted it o.O

Linux overcommit is dumb.

Though it does insulate people who insist on not allocating swap *cough*

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I think I need to kill ff to run rammap but I dont want to leave root access so I think no

Bob

...your system is in an almost hilariously broken state

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

total : 15GB, active: 500MB

oh no...

14.5GB of RAM are being wasted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob

somewhat relatedly, it's actually not possible to completely disable the page file on Azure because that requires a restart... and a restart will re-add the temp drive with a pagefile.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I NEED A PAGE FILE STAT

oh yeah

chkdsk is using 30MB / 14,000 MB of its commited memory

Bob

2:24 AM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere You're actually in a bit of an extreme situation because you're also running chkdsk... which tries to allocate sizeof(RAM) because it assumes it's the most important thing you're running.

Which lets it use as much memory as it can to fix your drive ASAP.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yes, that is the only logician, -system crash-

Dog

wtf is underflow doing

Bob

Normally that's not a problem because it can get paged out if something else needs it. And most of that is committed and unused anyway...

Dog

Other than underflowing his RAM

Psycogeek

@Dog challenging the norm :-)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

2:26 AM

I'm letting chkdsk run on a hard disk with bad sectors until it finishes while I wait for the client to pickup the phone to coordinate a purchase of a new one

Bob

In other word, your normal system state without chkdsk running is probably not quite as bad as >95% of your RAM sitting unused.

Dog

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Is this the same chkdsk we told you not to run several days ago?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

in other words my normal system state is 4GB / 16 GB which is 20% usually

Bob

Personally, I'd still always recommend having a page file just to catch the overcommits and maximise disk cache

*shrug*

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

actually @Dog

let me show you a screenie

Psycogeek

2:27 AM

a job for don quixote

Bob

Unrelatedly, I broke Azure again

Turns out Windows Server 2016 isn't too happy about me consuming all virtual memory

which makes Task Manager bug out

and Explorer menus fail to render

and cashed RAMMap too

lol

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Dog

The super cute blonde girl who managed to sneak into my room without me noticing last night has a phone with a number pad :-o

Psycogeek

@Dog she thought you could add the SMart Part :-)

Dog

My RAM usage

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

2:30 AM

@Bob , you have a process with an invalid process name running using the SYSTEM account. I advise you take all your belongings and run for the hills.

Bob

waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

why do I have 3 GB of page tables

O_O

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Dog my phone has such a number pad as well

Psycogeek

@Dog but then discovered you were going for the Touch part instead

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere invalid process name? where?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

that process you cutted out of the screen shot

oh yes the description is also invalid

Bob

2:32 AM

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

sorry my joke sucked

Bob

^ That's what happens when virtual memory is completely full :P

Dog

Bob

VM with 3.5 GB RAM and some 1.3 GB page file... I think the page file might've grown, but I can't check cause everything died.

Dog

I think I need to enlarge my pagefile

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

2:33 AM

a process called consume is launched that starts eating RAM of running processes starting with the low priority ones, freeing up memory in the process?

Dog

I have 10GB of free RAM but if I were to try and use more than 5GB stuff would crash

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Nope. consume is a test program that eats up all your virtual mem for a stress test.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Dog I think you need to buy more RAM

Dog

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere 64GB is all I can afford right now

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

remember, keep the page file in the RAM. RAM is cheap enough these days.

Bob

2:34 AM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That... is rather useless

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

hmm

Bob

You reserve RAM for page file space

Dog

!!tell 33306222 facepalm

ChatBot John Cavil

Dog

@Bob Arguably Windows 10's RAM compression negates that anyway

Bob

2:35 AM

so your virtual memory = sizeof(RAM) + sizeof(pagefile) - sizeof(reserved(sizeof(pagefile))) = sizeof(RAM)

Unless you compress the pagefile in RAM. Which Windows 10 already does.

@Dog Yea, was just about to mention that.

Psycogeek

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

14/16 = 0.875 so lets assume chkdsk uses 90% of the RAM. in order to keep my system usable I will need about 3GB of free RAM. that means 10% of my RAM needs to equal 3 GB, that means I need at least 32GB of RAM, that means I need to buy 2 more sticks and fill up my bays completely in order to not have a page file and use chkdsk regularly with the /R switch ticked

Bob

lol. I can't close the consume windows cause the Win10 UI has crashed and the close buttons broke.

Dog

Meta memory!

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That's not how it works. Because chkdsk will always try to allocate all physical RAM. So chkdsk will just allocate 30 GB instead.

gg.

Dog

2:37 AM

lol

Bob

@Dog I don't think kvm can do that :(

Dog

@Bob Xenserver's memory overcommit is weaksauce anyway

Bob

linux-kvm.org/page/KSM

Dog

Only VMWare does decent memory overcommit

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

but it somehow leaves a static amount of RAM. I can have chkdsk open for 8 hours but I can still run firefox and listen to music

bwDraco

2:38 AM

zdnet.com/article/…

Bob

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Eh. You could always test with 8. But there's better solutions...

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

remember the old days when a web broiwser used 100MB of RAM, and games used like 500mb-1gb well now all my games run with chkdsk but when watching videos FF runs out of memory! what a drastic change

bwDraco

Wow. SYN floods still work despite lots of ways to mitigate them.

Dog

VMWare has all the tricks: merging/deduplication/compression/sharing/balooning/swapping

bwDraco

It doesn't even seem to be a volumetric attack.

Bob

2:39 AM

> The attack follows us as we switch external IP

bwDraco

A system not protected against SYN floods can be taken offline with next to no traffic.

Dog

Does chkdsk really always use all your RAM? I've never noticed that before

Bob

fail.

Dog

But it does explain a few things

Bob

@Dog yea, I posted a link the other day. it's intentional as of 7

it's only in /R mode too

I think the idea is that /R means something is FUBAR and it just commits enough to make sure it has enough space for everything it might need to do

@bwDraco and they're blaming the ISP

Dog

2:41 AM

@Bob Ah

Just ran it in read-only mode and it just ate 100MB/sec for the first ten secs then stopped at 1GB

bwDraco

SYN floods are such a primitive form of DoS attack and I'm surprised it still works on live systems.

Bob

SYN floods can be trivially stopped at the firewall... just block all incoming connections.

I mean, it's not like they're hosting externally-accessible servers at a conference, are they?

Dog

@Bob Then you're just DoS'ing yourself

Bob

@Dog I assume they only really need outgoing

Dog

@Bob But someone needs to torrent those Linux ISOs!

Also, SYN floods can't touch me mwahaha

Psycogeek

2:42 AM

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere good luck making anyone care :-) Heck most times were just happy if they only use 1/2 the ram, and dont crash, leak, fail and full of buggs too . It is all that competition out there to get a program Out to the market , and failing as soon as possible :-)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I don't know about that Bob... the explanation they had barely made programming sense. It seemed pretty slapped on just so that they didnt have to go back and fix it. CHKDSK is really really really stupid. it keeps reading 4KB , then trying to read 132KB just to wait 30 seconds for a read error, when it could've realized by now it's wasting time and should just continuosly read 1 cluster at a time (4KB). or actually use its 64KB and 13KB reads more often.

if it actually was programmed intelligently I wouldnt be into ... what day is this? well procexp says system up time 2 days 7 hours. so …

Dog

Mainly because OpenWRT has syn flood mitigation on by default as one of its most basic features

Bob

@Dog ballooning is a funny one

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@Psycogeek hahah :D

Bob

sure, lemme just eat up RAM within the guest and stuff up all your reporting tools!

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I think chkdsk was written with software corruption in mind.

Dog

2:43 AM

bwDraco

Don't get me wrong, I've taken a hacking class in college and know it's pretty much the most primitive type of DoS attack out there. It takes very little traffic (literally kilobits a second) to disable a system not protected against a SYN attack.

Bob

You're not really supposed to run it on a disk with hardware failure.

Dog

@Bob Ahem!

Bob

You're getting read errors. It's long past time to abandon chkdsk and grab a ddrescue image first.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

clearly haha

what do root access users all have in common?

Dog

2:44 AM

@Bob: Funny thing is, Linux handles balooning really well, whereas Windows doesn't

04/11/2016 01:56:12 [qasdfdsaq@s4a.qasdfdsaq.com:~] $ free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          2293        695       1597          5        131        398
-/+ buffers/cache:        164       2128
Swap:         1951          0       1951

Linux actually reports the balooned memory as effectively being hot-unplugged from the system

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

use free -k please. karrots are good for you

Bob

@Dog huh. interesting.

Dog

aka I've ballooned 1.7GB out of my 4GB, Linux now reports 2.3GB "total" instead of 4GB total, 1.7GB+ used

HackToHell

o0'

Dog

It's quite clever. Windows just adds the ballooned amount to the "Used" pool

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

2:46 AM

oh you guys starred 2 of my posts

bwDraco

My router has SYN flood protection built in.

Psycogeek

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere well some of us have backups :-) that disk would be in the trash first, , , then it might be discovered that it was just the cable .

Dog

@Psycogeek Not me! Mwhaahaha

Oh wait, shit

brb making backup

Psycogeek

@Dog you aint got nothing worth saving :-)

Dog

OK what the fuck is this

Oh hey there's even a what is this button

bwDraco

2:49 AM

...and my router has this in the logs amongst the noise:

> [DoS Attack: TCP/UDP Chargen] from source: 184.105.139.113, port 42375, Wednesday, November 02, 2016 22:43:34

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yeah I move this cable around a lot, in gets pushed and pulled and squished by text books and groceries in my bag

Psycogeek

Actually neither do I (have anything worth saving) If i put all my data up for auction, ahh they would give me $10 for it. But damnit i will take it to my grave.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oooooo @Dog you're becky arent you!

bwDraco

Any explanation for this? Is an attacker trying to execute a CHARGEN amplification attack?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

both of you use bad words :)

Bob

2:50 AM

@Dog Not sure if it's because Windows doesn't support hot-remove or if it's VMware not doing it properly. Hot-add is definitely supported. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/…

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

dont worry Ill tell the russians to take out the modem sitting at 184.105.139.113

Bob

@Dog Windows does support hot-remove with Hyper-V windowsitpro.com/hyper-v/…

bwDraco

Character Generator Protocol

The Character Generator Protocol (CHARGEN) is a service of the Internet Protocol Suite defined in RFC 864 in 1983 by Jon Postel. It is intended for testing, debugging, and measurement purposes. The protocol is rarely used, as its design flaws allow ready misuse. A host may connect to a server that supports the Character Generator Protocol on either Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) or User Datagram Protocol (UDP) port number 19. Upon opening a TCP connection, the server starts sending arbitrary characters to the connecting host and continues until the host closes the connection. In the UD...

> UDP CHARGEN is commonly used in denial of service attacks. By using a fake source address the attacker can send bounce traffic off a UDP CHARGEN application to the victim. UDP CHARGEN sends 200 to 1,000 times more data than it receives, depending upon the implementation. This "traffic multiplication" is also attractive to an attacker because it obscures the attacker's IP address from the victim.

Dog

@Bob I can even hot plug CPUs!

Bob

> This is a different behavior from dynamic memory which used the kernel mode device driver to request memory from the OS and that request had to be fulfilled even if the OS had to page to disk to meet the demand. With hot-remove it is not possible to remove more memory than is currently available.

@Dog Only add: stackoverflow.com/questions/35739519/…

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

2:52 AM

how do you hot plug cpus?

@bwDraco , so far I've linked that IP to

scan-03j.shadowserver.org - The Shadowserver Foundation
The Shadowserver Foundation. If you are looking at this page, then more than likely, you noticed a scan coming from this server across your network and/or poking at a

Dog

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Use your hands

Grab the CPU, make sure it's hot, pull

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

no that's hot unplug cpus

I want to know how to hot plug cpus

bwDraco

Shadowserver is legit but why am I seeing this sort of traffic?

Dog

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That's how

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

It looks like you're trying to know how to hot plug cpus.

Would you like help?

Dog

2:53 AM

First you have to grab it while it's hot, then make sure you plug it into the next machine while it's still hot

Bob

@bwDraco Because they're probably running an internet-wide scan?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gotcha. where do I find a cpu?

2

Bob

@Dog Grab it by the *****? :P

bwDraco

> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

please no racism @Bob

Bob

2:54 AM

wat

bwDraco

!!/tell 33306583 e_rofl

ChatBot John Cavil

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere 🤣

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

shall I list the words you may have used

Bob

Go ahead.

'twas a trump reference anyway

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

01F
923 is what I see from chatbot

Dog

2:55 AM

!!s/[*]+/trump/

ChatBot John Cavil

@Dog Could not process input. Error: Invalid regular expression: nothing to repeat

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

well Im not racist so Im not saying the word

yes I dont like regexes, you do them for me @Dog

oh man I'm popular again. thanks guys ♥

ChatBot John Cavil

@Dog @Dog Grab it by the trump? :P (source)

Bob

bwDraco

Protip: Don't use the chatbot to generate rude or offensive messages.

Bob

2:57 AM

why thank you Java ಠ_ಠ

bwDraco

(just a reminder)

Dog

Guess how many tabs I have open

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

what a mess of processes, you should use ff to have all that bundled in one process :D

Please run jvm -Jmbm500 so

Journeyman Geek

Sigh.

One of my co-workers dosen't know what a Kensington lock is.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh I forgot what that is

bwDraco

3:01 AM

wut?

Journeyman Geek

@Dog all of them

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

amazon.com/Kensington-64068F-MicroSaver-Laptop-Business/dp/…

bwDraco

There's a small rectangular slot on most laptops designed to allow the attachment of a security cable or other theft-deterrent device.

Journeyman Geek

Yup.

bwDraco

Many monitors, desktops, printers, and other larger electronics have this K-Slot, too.

Journeyman Geek

3:02 AM

He's kinda a transitional it guy. Lacks culture :p

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@JourneymanGeek tell him to go on root access and highlight kensington lock and right click and click 'Search DuckDuckGo for "Kensington lock"' and tell him it will tell him what that is

Journeyman Geek

Naw. There's a dozen here.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

sometimes external hard disks do too

bwDraco

I have one of those security cables, but it sees very little use.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

we used it with the school laptop since it was expensive

Journeyman Geek

3:04 AM

We.... Forgot the key

Psycogeek

I have the master key, but it sees very little use :-)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

it's okay just borrow someone

's wire cutter and pray to goodness it's not one of those new locks that spray ink at you when yo utry to hack them open

Psycogeek

It is much better to put ITunes on it , and use the "Find your laptop without a battery in it" App

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh the BIOS has the theft protection?

bwDraco

That's the K-Slot on my laptop.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

3:07 AM

whats the green angel wings button do?

why do you have a usb 2.0 port?

Dog

Duck duck QUACK

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yup you can quack your search queries

bwDraco

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That's the power button.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere This is the only one of the four USB ports that's USB 2.0. It's intended for use with a mouse.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

ooooookay then :)

Psycogeek

@bwDraco Sooo did you get that lappie back together in one piece yet? or still waiting for the sauce?

bwDraco

3:10 AM

@Psycogeek Done, and it was easier than expected.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

what flavour are you waiting on

bwDraco

Oct 25 at 21:06, by bwDraco

@allquicatic So, I replaced the thermal paste a few hours ago. I'm seeing a slight advantage, but I assume it'll grow as the paste sets (it's AS5).

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

actionscript doesnt go up to 5. well goodnight everyone

bwDraco

Oct 25 at 16:29, by bwDraco

https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-AS5-3-5G-Thermal-Paste/dp/B0087X728K

Psycogeek

ahh the paste doesnt get any better :-) dont know why they portray that myth, it only will self-improve burn-in etc if it thins out , which takes much pressure and heat. is there less throttling? does your game (whatever it was) get 2FPS more or anything? Placebo

did you do the CPU too? as all i saw was you working on the GPU?

bwDraco

3:16 AM

Didn't do the CPU.

Psycogeek

this is what i have been spending much and much time on

I feex

If i could just get @DavidPostill to finish putting the carpet in, that room would be set.

we got more paint on the floor than the walls this time.

I think a better adjustment of the shape charge explosives would do it, that and keeping people from stepping in the roller tray and paint bucket like the 3 Stooges

I am of course DIY because: "If you want it done right, you can't afford the professional who does that."

I told them to stand back and wear a hat because i paint like a hurricane.
they said hurricanes dont paint?
Well yea but they fling crap all over the place and nobody is safe.

the dogs are luckey , , , they are already white

Journeyman Geek

3:53 AM

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/…

XKCD

4:14 AM

Lot of drama in those days, including constant efforts to force the "Reflections on Trusting Trust" guy into retirement so we could stop being so paranoid about compilers.

Psycogeek

4:33 AM

It is a good thing ^ she is cute , or I wouldn't believe a thing she says :-)

Rahul2001

5:25 AM

Hi :)

These geniuses hot glues and Arduino to a plastic box.

I'm super angry... They got an Arduino from school, and THEY BLOODY HOT GLUED IT AND NOW ITS SPOILT

SENTHILKUMAR S

5:46 AM

I have super user access on my Mac but I am unable to open the bash file using the command 'touch ~/.bash_profile; open ~/.bash_profile'

Does Anybody know how to solve this?

It shows touch and open commands are not found :(

Rahul2001

@SENTHILKUMARS You're probably better off asking on the Main Site

@SENTHILKUMARS Possibly relevant: stackoverflow.com/questions/18563847/…

@SENTHILKUMARS Room etiquette here says that you should only pop in and randomly ask questions if you are a regular contributor here.

We aren't your go-to-anytime free tech support team

Chat is for off-topic stuff.

@JourneymanGeek Did... I explain that correctly?

Journeyman Geek

@SENTHILKUMARS room etiquette on most places here's a little different from IRC. Questions belong on the main site. Chats more for things less fitting the QA format. That open command looks odd tho

Eh. Chat regulars don't ask questions. We complain loudly :p

Rahul2001

6:01 AM

lol

@SENTHILKUMARS Also, Google

Journeyman Geek

We're entirely aware what would ensue is rawkous discourse.

HackToHell

6:14 AM

This is the rant central xD

Adding to that, server has been finding a dhaparm for five minutes now -_-

SENTHILKUMAR S

6:51 AM

Thanks @Rahul2001.

I will ask it in main site.

Aibobot

heh. I'm supposed to know what's my workplace's plan for me by the end of the day

If they arn't extending, I need to see who I can list as a reference and such

HackToHell

7:13 AM

http2.akamai.com/demo

Bob

@HackToHell it's probably using the /dev/random source without enough entropy

Aibobot

7:34 AM

I just lied about my server experience ;p

vaguely

HackToHell

@Bob aha, so just a bad time to be reading off it huh

cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail

Gives me 184

Other servers give me ~700

Localhost is 900

hmm weird

major.io/2007/07/01/check-available-entropy-in-linux

The server idling is causing this o0 ?

This might cause SSL issues hmm

djsmiley2k

7:51 AM

@SENTHILKUMARS is 'open' even a command on a mac? It's not on linux afaik

Aibobot

I'm essentially going to need to do a resume that omits all my necessary experience ;p

@djsmiley2k I was wondering that too

djsmiley2k

yey i broke outlook, by starting it

Aibobot

dosen't take much

djsmiley2k

well actually it started fine, until i tried to move the window :D

Bob

8:18 AM

  scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h11m with 0 errors on Thu Nov  3 15:40:00 2016

Burgi

8:34 AM

morning

morning

mornin

noonin

8:52 AM

evenin'

Burgi

crazy antipodean

djsmiley2k

@Aibobot urgh, the old 'Your too qualifed' ?

DavidPostill

@Psycogeek ???

Burgi

fracking parking fine :(

had to pay it

djsmiley2k

:<

Burgi

9:00 AM

hmmm....

~~minion is late again~~

djsmiley2k

ded?

Journeyman Geek

Minion is undead.

@djsmiley2k they literally want someone with no experience

Somewhat desperately

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek lol. so he is a vampire! :)

Burgi

lol

@JourneymanGeek can you send the roomie to the interview then show up in his place on the first day?

Journeyman Geek

Roomie would likely take over.

I'll just play up desktop support experience.

DavidPostill

9:15 AM

@JourneymanGeek Or printer moving experience ;p

Journeyman Geek

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I only moved a dozen today.

djsmiley2k

urgh

why not become a removal man

that pays well ;)

'I can help you move house, and then check your computer cabling!'

Rahul2001

9:50 AM

Our whistleblower act doesn't allow for anonymity. You have to tell everyone who you are.

Also, you cannot tell others about confidential government stuff

What's the point?

djsmiley2k

lol

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