You can whistleblow, but only on yourself

hotstar.com/tv/on-air-with-aib-english/6200/why-be-good/…

i think i have the lurgy

i definately do D:

and doing fireworks tomorrow night as well now :D

We just had diwali on sunday

diwali=asthama4everyone

Pollution in Delhi during Diwali worst in 3 years - Times of India

Half the schools are closed, the rest have made wearing masks to school compulsory.

Damn fireworks

hmm

Intel has an app that lets you use your phone as a keyboard

@JourneymanGeek MONECT

monect.com

Gives you a ton of useful features

even lets you use your phone as trackpad

Or presentation remote

wow, are the fireworks themselves really bad, or is it the sheer number?

yup

Or media controller

does that

and that

@djsmiley2k Both

and that

K

On bonfire night here (5th nov) the air is a bit smokey but it's all gone by the next day generally

@djsmiley2k The smog comes down every morning for a fortnight after diwali here

@JourneymanGeek Still, intel software has not lived up to expectations lately ever

and also does a power switch.

@JourneymanGeek So does monect. Does your thing do a game controller?

nope?

Remote desktop?

nope

I have CRD

I don't

codingame.com

Hm. Interesting.

I prefer coding real useful apps over making games and stuff, but that's just me.

@Rahul2001 The definition of "useful" here...

Anyway, this is about writing AIs to compete. Not writing a game itself.

Wha... AIs?

@Bob Good luck writing an AI in PHP... It takes me an hour just to get a goddamn if loop working

@Rahul2001 Considering there's about 30 languages to choose from, if you use PHP that's your own fault.

hi all

I have a windows 7 laptop

hi

trying to install that patch KB2574819

when installing it , I have this pop up every time

the update does not deal with my computer

I'm trying to raise this issue because I'm trying to run mRemoteNG

every time I'm trying to start a connection

I have this

@AndyK Try asking on the main site

ok @Rahul2001

Also, I don't think anyone here knows french, or whatever language that is

La mise à jour ne s'applique à votre ordinateur means the update does not concern your computer

Oh, then you probably don't need the update

Room etiquette here says that you should only pop in and randomly ask questions if you are a regular contributor here.

@Rahul2001 you should leave a note or create a web page ...

@AndyK That's true for almost all chat rooms on the SE network

Quoting @JourneymanGeek (who's a mod): room etiquette on most places here's a little different from IRC. Questions belong on the main site. Chats more for things less fitting the QA format.

Chat is for off topic stuff

ehhh

Not quite

@AndyK language aside, we encourage people to ask questions on the main site.

Chat's too chaotic, and the main site gets more attention

@JourneymanGeek Hm. Which point?

@JourneymanGeek thanks. Rahul's point was not very clear but I know I got your point of view, guys

Hello!

hi

Wait is there a politics.se?

Prolly is

tbh, I like this place being mostly politics free.

hm, there used to be at least.

Politics

@Bob BL?

I should troll them with donald trump pics

you forgot hodor :(

@AndyK it maybe you need the 32bit or 64bit specific version and you've got the other

Right, time to OneCloud

Er

Owncloud

@Dog Wait. Where are the US flags?

@DavidPostill other end?

@JourneymanGeek lol

@Dog those are amazing

@JourneymanGeek LOL

Well that's ironic, Windows handles obscure networking configurations better than Linux

How obscure?

it'd have to be pretty damn weird for linux to not deal with it well.

@djsmiley2k Using the first and last IP addresses as host addresses

It's not actually that obscure, as lots of hosting providers use it for failovers and stuff

i.e. .1 and .255 ?

or whatever address is at the end of your subnet...

@djsmiley2k .0 and .255

yah ok

Or in my case, .32 and .39

hmmm i guess some tools are stupid enough to get confused

but ifconfig and ip shouldn't

:/

ifconfig, ifup, and the kernel get confused -_-

So does ping

gah, they shouldn't :/

There must be a flag somewhere to get the kernel to treat .0 and .255 as ordinary addresses rather than network ID/broadcast. But I can't find it and I can't remember what i'm looking for

yeah

I wonder why tho :/

Linux and Windows both handle using a gateway outside the local subnet fine, though it's marginally easier to do on Windows.

@JourneymanGeek saw that on fb yesterday, most of them don't bother me at all.

I thought it was amusing

@Dog maybe windows shouldn't be letting you do it :O

@djsmiley2k Don't see why not

It's basically required for TUN VPNs to work

I'm unsure, 'unexpected circumstances' is the reasoning it seems :/

@djsmiley2k IIRC it's expected and standardized

To use them?

Normal for dialup, not unusual for ethernet

@djsmiley2k To use gateway addresses outside of the local subnet

oh that, right yeah

Sorry, was confused, I guess you're talking about .0 addresses

you just add it as a host on the routing table first iirc

yeah

route add -host blah

route add -net gw blah

or something close to that.

Yup, pretty much

Though in Windows case you don't even have to do that, it's automagic

(Because gateway settings are interface specific in Windows anyway)

Too many results of people asking what network address and broadcast addresses are, can't find anything explaining how to get the kernel to ignore them

Sure the easy workaround is just to add a few digits onto the subnet mask, but still I want a solution not dirty hack workaround

@Dog Cats are never dirty! You must be a Dog! Time for your bath! ☺

Wait a sec, my other Ubuntu box is already handling this fine what gives

both ubuntu?

yup

lmao, I put .248 in the wrong place on the other one

(Accidentally set a netmask of /21 instead of /29)

Sadly it means DHCP just won't work

Whereas you can DHCP these settings on Windows fine >_>

@Rahul2001 What about CanadianLuke? O.o he's sure to know some french. :^)

je comprendez tres un peux framboise...

@djsmiley2k TBH I think you're right, but w/e

I lost you at peux

I THINK the last word is raspberry

hah I understand very an peux raspberry?

I'd rather the OS be dumb and just accept what I tell it than try to enforce "standards" in an environment where I explicitly don't care

a little

@Dog Well then the OS would rather you be its programmer.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I fon

don't want to have to reprogram the kernel every time I want to change a network setting

Even though I could if I wanted to

we're friends right?

SWEET IM FRIENDS WITH A KERNEL PROGRAMMER

down boy down.

woof woof!

@Bob: You still awake?

yanno what's the best thing about the weekend?

no printers

Oh yeah, it's the weekend and it's only 8pm

hah

@Bob, what do you use for hosting Owncloud? Nginx, apache, etc.?

I've always been fairly old fashioned Apache but been mulling a switch to nginx for a while

--realname-- CausingUnderflows, I have a problem with my printer. It's not printing on the right size sheets can you help. I have a dirty workaround of changing the paper size everytime though

sets printer on fire

o.o

sets printer moving dog on fire

sets fire on fire

fireception

bonfire

Thank goodness you're a printer moving cat, I wouldnt want you be the one set on fire

what's a web broiswer? never heard of the term before yet it's up on the star wall

@Dog I use nginx for just about everything

I use nginx too! ♥

@Bob Nice

Doesn't it like not support plugins or some shit

:yea, I think I'm using fcgi33311285

lemme check

Then again, I'm not using any plugins with my Apache

Though I am quite a fan of rewrite and reverse proxying, but only at work

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere yea, I think I'm using fcgi

wierd

@allquicatic what do you use?

Nginx? Apache? IIS? shudder

@Dog nginx supports rewriting and reverse proxying natively

he probably uses a self written web server

hmm actually

@Bob Oh nice. Guess that's all I need then!

@Dog I can't remember if I used apache for this server :S

wtf

Couple of girls sitting across from me smell really nice but walk like dogs shudder

ohhhhhhhhhhhh I have owncloud in its own little folder

no wonder I couldn't find the nginx config

Dafuq, either OVH <=> Hetzner is really bad or something is weird or both

wait no

hey @Dog, have a great day and enjoy yourself. @Bob I heard you're still up so have a great sleep! Goodnight @JourneymanGeek have an awesome printer-less weekend!

...I'm dumb

I think I'm looking at the wrong server

xD

> Sydney Telstra 4.22MB/s

heh

no it's goodbye @Hell0

:)

Yay Sydney is just as fast as Roubaix from my Hetzner box -_-

I'm toying with moving from lighttpd to ngnix

I wonder what OpenWRT uses

uhttpd probably

> uHTTPd is a web server written from scratch by OpenWrt/LuCI developers. It is aimed towards being an efficient and stable server, suitable for lightweight tasks commonly used with embedded devices and proper integration with OpenWrt's configuration framework (UCI). In particular, it is configured by default for the LuCI web interface to administer OpenWrt. In addition, it provides all the functionality expected of present day web servers.

Yup

gah

how 2 systemd

this is so weird

my server is up, but I can't find it

systemd is annoying

about how long should a full block-level drive write (a la dd) take for a 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO connected to a SATA 6 Gb/s to USB 3.0 bridge?

Resource monitor shows a sustained write speed oscillating between 86 and 115 MB/s

@Bob Welcome to my world

"Hi Support, we've lost a server somewhere. It's up, but we just don't know where it is... I think it might have been under your desk halp?"

"It's in the server room where I left it"

@Dog as long as it dosen't get walled up

/quit

dosen't work that way

you click the leave button on the right

this isn't IRC

@allquicatic sounds about right (write?) for sustained writes on TLC

@JourneymanGeek tbh I really wouldn't care if it did

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MONTRESOR!

@Dog Yea there's a very good chance I'm using apache httpd here

at least that's what netstat says

I still haven't figured out where owncloud is actually installed, though

:(

Urgh, I hate wireless networks that permit roaming but don't actually support it

@Bob upload a 10GB file and du it :-P

@Dog I know where my datastore is mounted

but not where the owncloud scripts are -_-

root@tethys:~# ls /
bin        dev   initrd.img  lost+found  opt   run   sys  var
boot       etc   lib         media       proc  sbin  tmp  vmlinuz
datastore  home  lib64       mnt         root  srv   usr

root@tethys:~# ls /opt

heh. NAMESPAACCCEEEEEEEE

oh. FFS

I checked /opt, /etc, /var, /var/www/html...

guess where I didn't check

/var/www, of course

/var/www/owncloud

there it is

I was about to ask

FFS #2: I checked /etc/apache2/sites-available

@allquicatic should be faster than that...

but of course it was /etc/apache2/conf-available/owncloud.conf

tho I have a subdomain that's hosted on /home/geek/test ....

Alias / "/var/www/owncloud/"
<Directory "/var/www/owncloud">
  Options +FollowSymLinks
  AllowOverride All

  <IfModule mod_dav.c>
        Dav off
  </IfModule>

  SetEnv HOME /var/www/owncloud
  SetEnv HTTP_HOME /var/www/owncloud
</Directory>

<Directory "/var/www/owncloud/data/">
  # just in case if .htaccess gets disabled
    Require all denied
</Directory>

/etc/apache2/conf-enabled/owncloud.conf (END)

funnily enough, this might be my only apache2 server

I think I chose apache over nginx here cause I cbf'd trying to replicate owncloud's .htaccess

and didn't want to mess up whatever it did for security

@Bob Anandtech says that drive should sustain 400MB/s

@Bob Anandtech says that drive should sustain 400MB/s natively

@Dog huh.

I remember mine was slower but not exactly how much

@Bob so now there's conf-available too? fuck me

why wasn't sites-available sufficient?

yup

oh

@allquicatic There always was. *-enabled always symlinks to *-available

And I'm not sure why I chose conf instead of sites

probably a brainfart

I know, but the mere existence of a conf-available/conf-enabled surprises me because I always looked in sites-available/sites-enabled

@allquicatic lol. Why wasn't just a single httpd.conf sufficient

of course, I say "I chose", but apparently owncloud chose it for me forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?t=30157

-_-

I just watched the bus uncle video again

for some reason Geek reminds me of it

@allquicatic err maybe cause of things like ssl.conf

> This owncloud.conf make the owncloud folder available to all of your domains and all your virtual hosts. If you only want to use owncloud in one virtual host, you have to specify it there.

ow.

(or in my case something else.conf)

yea, mine was edited

@Bob lsof?

@Dog found them eventually :P

@Bob nginx doesn't do .htccess?!

@Dog nup. that's very much an apache thing, and even then it's not recommended cause it slows everything down a lot

litespeed was designed to be mostly apache-compatible, but even it has some issues

Guess I've been living in an apache world for too long

@Dog everyone is. that's why htaccess is used everywhere

!! s/an\ apache/a\ patchy/

@Dog That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

also why it's a pain to use the same projects elsewhere, sometimes

@Dog That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

@Dog Guess I've been living in a\ patchy world for too long (source)

Grr

Potato cucumber

carrot?

Potato autocarrot cucumber

Urgh my Ubuntu TCP parameters need tuning I think

lol

Urgh. ACME. And stuff. STUFF. SO MUCH STUFF.

/me too lazy, goes back to sleep

> There were 2167 failed login attempts since the last successful login.

For gods sake hackers, piss off, you're never going to get in

@allquicatic Hahaha

@allquicatic lol

hi

how can i remove ghostscript packane in centod?

hi

Please anyone suggest me how to uninstall ghostscript permenantly

@Dog xD

yanno. I am tempted to add a !!question to cavil. other than that being a terrible terrible precident

@JigarBhatt Did you read the messages returned by the yum command? Did it say it removed a package, or did it fail to find the package you asked it to remove? Maybe the package is named something else.

which gs

(also, questions like that go on the main site please! With more details. If you're a regular, we'll just mock you)

@Dog More like yum whatprovides /usr/bin/gs

@allquicatic You have to find /usr/bin/gs first

what if it's /usr/xbin!

or /var/www/infected-server/gs

@Dog the chances of it not being /usr/bin are low, unless it's from a third-party repo that decided to be respectful of the system directories

but IIRC the most popular third party repo for CentOS, EPEL, does install things into /usr/bin

that feeling when you put a laptop completely back together and your holding tray still has 4 screws in it O_O

@allquicatic Yeah but if it were /usr/bin/gs the chances are it'd have been removed by yum remove ghostscript :-P

@allquicatic Lol

"oh well, probably not important"

@allquicatic weight loss!

That feeling when you go to swap the battery of your phone and realise all the screws are missing

That feeling when you discover other people use trays to hold screws when taking a laptop apart...

@allquicatic It's a feeling I hope my surgeon will never have.

@ThatBrazilianGuy Why's your surgeon screwing your laptop together?

@Dog He's got a laptop fetish.

@Dog which gs

tells you where gs is

DAMN I'M GOOOOD

if it's gone, then it's not there anymore so you can't find it anyway :D

Also I know you already said that

@djsmiley2k duh, it's not gone, that's the problem.

but I DON'T CARE BECAUSE IT'S FRIDAY

@ThatBrazilianGuy So when the instruction manual for his Health IT software says "Go to Phile -> Open..." he goes "Aw, yeah!"

not gone? haha

@djsmiley2k You're God? Can you get my a pony? And a million dollars? And world peace?

you know when my daughter (2.5yrs) says my little pony

it comes out 'My little tony'

@ThatBrazilianGuy Sure, it'll cost you tho

@ThatBrazilianGuy That's not Friday. That's FRIIYEEDAY.

@djsmiley2k Will it cost me more than a million dollars to get a million dollars?

@allquicatic IT'S FRYYYYDAY, FRYYYYDAY, FRYYYYDAY, I'M IN LOVE - The Cure vs. Rebecca Black

@ThatBrazilianGuy It takes a crane to build a crane

@allquicatic You need computers to build a computer.

play.google.com/music/preview/…

Noelle. No L. Get it?

@allquicatic "There is no end to what I'm saying" WAIT WHAT ARE YOU GONNA STAND THERE SINGING FOREVER

@allquicatic Those look like hard drive screws

@Dog That's... that's actually a quite clever pickup line

@ThatBrazilianGuy Yeah, I'm actually impressed how good some of these are

This however:

Nah, that's the only good one, the others are silly. And not in a nice way.

@ThatBrazilianGuy Oh yeah, I'm only posting the silly ones, the good ones are in the rest of the post I've not posted

I don't know if it would've worked because as a regular geek I never had the guts to try. =/

@Dog Oh the burn...

@ThatBrazilianGuy :D

Might be easier to just post the URL of the page from where you're copying the images

OUCH

Not sure who got it worse there

Wow five years already