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4:29 PM
> The Trump administration is considering barring passengers flying to the US from UK airports from taking laptops into the cabins, sources have told the Guardian.

The proposed ban would be similar to one already imposed on travellers from several Middle Eastern countries.

British officials understand that their US counterparts are looking at extending the ban – which prevents any electronic devices larger than a smartphone being taken as carry-on luggage – to flights from Europe.

One Whitehall source suggested to the Guardian that although it was not certain that the ban would be extend
 
Ken M had something to say about Trump.
 
5:23 PM
@jokerdino the way that was worded, my brain flipped it around and read "10 hours" ... "100 days"
@DavidPostill Are they also going to arrange for enormous liability insurance for the airlines when peoples' identity gets stolen, sensitive corporate data gets leaked, expensive laptops get stolen and resold, and peoples' whole lives are ruined? Because the checked baggage handlers are a cartel of criminals that cannot be trusted with peoples' expensive items.
 
5:43 PM
@allquixotic shrug - no idea - perhaps there will be one of those US class action suit things ...
 
just saying, what they're doing will have enormous financial impact on the airline industry and all passengers of it coming into the US, even people born in the US, so if they're going to screw us over like that, it'd be their responsibility (the US government's) to compensate us for our losses as the filthy bastards carrying our checked baggage pilfer our macbook pros
either that, or the physical transport path of moving checked baggage is hideously insecure, like an open cart behind an electric-powered buggy that an employee rides down the middle of the airport by a line of people who can just grab random bags off the cart as it passes
I've never personally lost checked baggage in an airport, but I know tons of stories of people who have, and never got squat back... just huge losses in many cases (unless it was their clothing bag and they had purchased it all at Walmart)
 
@allquixotic Never mind that many baggage handlers just throw the luggage around ...
 
when traveling, my personal policy has always been to keep all electronic devices within sight or at least keep a hand on the bag carrying it
I won't even put it in the overhead rack unless forced to
 
It might be a good idea to at least take the hard disk in your carry on luggage.
@allquixotic Ditto
 
@DavidPostill lolnotpossible
 
5:49 PM
@allquixotic You can't remove it? Wrong kind of laptop?
 
unless they start having microsoldering stations complete with a hot air station, BGA rework station, and all screwdrivers needed to open a Macbook Pro, on both sides of the flight, for desoldering then reinstalling, I won't be able to physically separate my MBP from the SSD
and Apple is far, far, far from the only laptop vendor to do that
in fact I wouldn't be surprised if, soon, that becomes the norm
 
Hmm. I could change the hard disk in my Sony in a couple of minutes when it died.
 
your Sony also didn't have about 75% of the volume inside the chassis consumed by battery and the rest just a tiny PCB with the CPU, SSD and RAM soldered on to save space (no slots etc)
I have to lug my personal and two work laptops around almost everywhere I go for business, which is a lot of places
one of my work laptops weighs six times more than my MBP
I don't feel like carrying 50 pounds of laptops everywhere I go
 
@allquixotic Ah, but you are probably not flying to/from the UK are you - which is what the latest shenanigans is about.
I can't imagine internal US flights being affected just yet ...
 
@DavidPostill yeah, not internal, true
but if it "works" and people swallow it for international travel, eventually it'll be used everywhere
 
5:59 PM
I can imagine too much outrage and financial consequences (to trade, not loss of laptops) for it to be easily swallowed ...
 
"First they came ..." is a poem written by German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It is about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt and responsibility. == The text == The best-known versions of the speech are the poems that began circulating by the 1950s. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum quotes the following text as one of...
 
6:11 PM
Good evening!
Guys, are diff. driver question discussed/asked at SU as well?
I'm stuck with a question about AMD Driver. I have 16.15.2211, but some AMD soft responsible for updating/keeping track of driver version tells me, that 15.7.1 is recommended driver. To me it seems illogical and therefore the question, whether it is a good/needed step to take or better stick with one, that has higher version number?
Or maybe it should all come to looking up the information about two on the web and deciding based on that?
 
Bob
6:40 PM
ugh
@JourneymanGeek wrote my own stock alert script
now that was an adventure
could've used python, could've used nodejs, nooooooooooooo, I just had to try out dotnetcore
that was a terrible mistake
well, to be fair, the actual DOM parsing bit was very very nice
 
@Bob You idiot....well, that's the last time I'll get to say that to him xD
 
Bob
just... sending an email... was ... ugh
doesn't help that it took me forever to figure out that... the server blocks smtp by default, and the ip is on blacklists even after unblocking
note to self: use a proper damn editor for C# next time
I'm gonna have vim nightmares tonight
@allquixotic we've already had internal emails circulating re: not giving out encryption keys to US customs
or, in the event that they force the issue, the reporting system (alllll the way up to corp sec/HQ) for it
 
@Bob sublime does everything
 
Bob
@Nick nup. gotta use vscode.
sublime does ... very little, actually
basically no debugging support
there is an omnisharp plugin (completion, syntax) at least
 
7:00 PM
Pakistan hacked India's IIT websites (College) to deliver a message. This creeps me out. How secure are we?
 
Bob
How long is a piece of string?
 
@AnimeshAshish As secure as the hosting provider, codes, and devops make it.
@Bob Twice as long as half its length :)
 
7:24 PM
@Bob ugh
 
Jess Pardue on April 25, 2017

Welcome back to the Stack Overflow podcast episode #106 recorded live on Thursday, April 20th at SO headquarters in NYC. We are honored to have Anil Dash, CEO of Fog Creek, leading today’s antics while Joel is away. We are also joined by the entire SO Data Team; Kevin Montrose, Jason Punyon, Dr Julia Silge, Nick Larsen, and Dr Dave Robinson.

In today’s episode you will find: mystery, intrigue, and mangoes! As well as…

Kevin drinks two whole unicorn fraps.

Jay rants about the people who rant about babies on planes. …

 
it's cool that my iDevices all have FDE out of the box; that's one good thing going for them
and to break it they'd need to contract that Israeli company again, and have a warrant, not just general customs investigation
oh, and the trick for preventing them from using TouchID is to power down your iDevices before you go into customs, because they can force you under law to use TouchID, but they can't force you to enter a password, and an Apple device requires a password on boot
 
> they can force you under law to use TouchID, but they can't force you to enter a password
 
@allquixotic Same holds for any encrypted Android device.
Indeed, to comply with the Android CDD (as of version 6.0), any device with sufficient storage performance (>50 MiB/s) must ship encrypted out of the box.
> For device implementations supporting full-disk encryption and with Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) crypto performance above 50MiB/sec, the full-disk encryption MUST be enabled by default at the time the user has completed the out-of-box setup experience. If a device implementation is already launched on an earlier Android version with full-disk encryption disabled by default, such a device cannot meet the requirement through a system software update and thus MAY be exempted.
You'd have to enter your PIN, pattern, or password to unlock the device at boot time.
 
7:50 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy Yes, in the US, a court determined that the law can compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock an electronic device
because fingerprints aren't speech
but they can't make you enter a password, because passwords are speech
 
@allquixotic How bizarre. Is using fingers to enter a password speech because they are also used for sign language?
 
THESE USAIANS ARE CRAZY!
Firgerprints are not speech, and passwords are not speech. They are actually the opposite of speech, because speech is something you have to show others for it to fulfill its role, and passwords is something you NEVER show others or else it will not fulfill its role.
Both are means of providing privacy, which is a fundamental human rights AFAIK. Or damn well should be.
If I ever have to enter the US, I'll hand my phones and other devices to the TSA because I did nothing wrong and have nothing to fear and freedom and liberty and eagles and ohai NSA
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy are you sure? they'll see everything you ever posted to RA... oh, wait.
 
@allquixotic I am more concerned if I ever enroll for a job opening anywhere that uses English and performs thorough background research. If they read half of the stuff I said here, I'll never get the job. Damn, Even I wouldn't hire myself!
 
Can someone look at my question please
 
8:05 PM
If you're referring to this question, I think you just need to be patient - half an hour isn't much time :)
 
@ryekayo Sure, just comment on the question: "BUMP", it will move it up on the queue and attract more attention.
The comment above is satire and should not be taken seriously
Besides, the local telepathic users are all absent
 
Not all of them ;)
 
Hehe. I can use my favourite comment in here
> I am neither psychic nor a mind reader and I don't like guessing games.
See? I deny being telepathic ;p
 
Well, there's this great quote about telepathy, which I won't say for obvious reasons. ;P
 
@BenN Of course you don't need to be telepathic given that his previous newest question was in 2015 ...
 
8:09 PM
Shh, don't ruin the magic
 
gives away @BenN's secrets
 
BenNs away @secret's gives
 
9:05 PM
the FreeBSD d(a)emon on Linux Containers Discourse
okay.png
 
@allquixotic You gave the site the RA Hug of Death! :-O
Nah, it's back
They probably started a few more containers :P
 
or just systemctl restart nginx'ed
 
@allquixotic So... I might or might not have performed a blunder of TOWN's level of epic proportions last Saturday by running that command on live prod.
I'm speaking of leaving a handful dozen sites offline, including my workplace's main site.
For a few moments I considered brushing up my resumé
 
TOWN or TOWMN (pronounced "Tau-mein")?
@ThatBrazilianGuy lol
 
@allquixotic Yeah, him-her-they. By the way, what name they go by nowadays?
 
9:15 PM
we had an app in a dev environment (Java server) where restarting Red Hat EAP (JBoss) would cause it to DROP the entire database, creating 2 hrs of work for a dev to fix it
I think Dog again
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Last time we saw them it was Dog. Hasn't been seen since the last kick.
 
So, after a desperate expedition to the second page of google results, I managed to fix it.
I didn't even know what a PHP-FPM pool is, and still don't, but I found it and fixed it.
Sure, by that point I had already called and texted both my schrodinger-boss-not-boss and a coworker
And as it was Saturday I had a BBQ to attend with people from work including him, some coworkers and my boss' boss' boss' boss.
I nearly didn't go, but I had already paid and, hey, BBQ.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy A "Fipp-Fipp'em pool" is a pool used by people who give middle-fingers to others, which contains reserve instances of the middle finger that regenerate at a rate-limited pace of 5 middle fingers per day.
 
@allquixotic Dog - last seen 10d ago
 
So apparently I nearly crapped my pants needlessly, because no one mentioned anything and, so far, my SSH key has not been revoked (Despite me asking them to)
 
9:22 PM
@DavidPostill wow, is he really gone? :(
 
Hope they're alright.
 
@allquixotic I don't know.
 
clever - they had a profile on ai.SE, but deleted it (or it got deleted) and they made that their chat parent user
 
> Joined 1 year, 11 months ago, last seen 2 days ago
 
@allquixotic Yes. I just noticed that.
@ThatBrazilianGuy That was qasdfdsaq. I've no idea what is going on.
 
9:28 PM
@qasdfdsaq == @noitsbecky == @dog == @cat == @annaduh == ...
 
noitsbecky was also seen 2 days ago.
@ThatBrazilianGuy We know
@ThatBrazilianGuy qwertyuiop / qasdfdsaq / potato cat / noitsbecky / kerbalspacebecky / Caterina'Catty'McCatface / Bobby McBobFace / cat / ThatBrazilianImposter / ThatBrazilianCat / kerbalspacecat / JourneymanCat / PowershellforLinux / dog / annaduh / TOWMN
And probably a few more I forgot to note :)
 
I wouldn't have ever kicked him if chat obeyed my personal rules, but then, I'm a traditionalist and not very PC
 
9:43 PM
WE WON THE QUIZ
and the raffle!
£114
beer and raffle
 
Burgi is on a roll. An alcoholic roll, nonetheless.
 
i was driving
 
0_o
AAAAAHHHH now I get it
 
 
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10:49 PM
i need some regex help
I'm trying to match the whitespace between two chars
 
Does ^.*@(\s*)!.*$ work? (assuming @ and ! are the two characters)
 
@KronoS Does \w(\s*)\w then backreference \1 work?
 
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A: How to replace the blank

Amarghosh[^a-z\s] with ignore-case flag set matches anything other than letters and whitespace characters. ^ at the beginning of a character class (the thing between []) negates the character class. To replace blanks, you can simply replace \s+ with empty strings or, if you need to match only letters rep...

finally found relevant SO question
@ThatBrazilianGuy I don't know enough about regex to know how to use \1
@BenN no that one doesn't
 
Could we see a test string and what in it you're trying to match?
 
function(const bool varname, static int secondvarname)
 
10:59 PM
Ah, are you trying to remove extra spaces?
 
ya
but I don't want to remove indentations
 
Weird. From what I'm reading, (?=\w)(\ +)(?=\w) should work, but it doesn't.
 
\b\s+\b actually works pretty well
 
Bob
11:25 PM
@bwDraco to clear things up... encryption is "enabled" but by default you're asked if you want the boot-time password
if you answer no, it'll just auto-decrypt anyway
 
@Bob ...the key would be stored in the clear.
 
Bob
of course
 
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