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12:01 AM
Survived another week.
Spent two hours today pulling together info necessary to convince a useless entity with too much authority and too little responsibility that they were stupid idiots.
 
@music2myear you can never convince them that
 
Then they found out they were wrong and without so much as a "oh, sorry for wasting your time" they swept it all under the rug.
Yea. I know. It would have take 30 seconds and two searches to see there was at least something fishy about those two items that they probably needed to check out further before pointing fingers.
I keep all such instances of their idiocy in a folder and then when they come to me I'll start sending them zipped copies of their follies and ask them to take a day to think carefully and be really, really sure before asking again.
 
12:37 AM
Need to figure out how to contact EA about this MP problem I have with MassEffect...
annyoijg my pc was down otherwise I wouldn't have this problem...
 
Bob
hi
 
12:52 AM
Ever have one of those days where you sit down at a station, ssh into another station, and realize you just made a ssh connection to the station your sitting at?
that was my day :-$
 
It's been like that the last 2 weeks
 
working really hard?
 
this website is borked
the map thing to locate stores breaks SSL then throws a fatal JS error
 
1:08 AM
alrifht what the heck, my LAN connection drops, but my wifi doesn't
that makes no sense
same router..
 
bugger it, i'm going to bed, i'll brave ikea tomorrow instead
i've enjoyed knowing you all
 
IKEA is an all day affair, 1 hour of shopping, 7 hours trying to escape
 
2:14 AM
Hello!
@Burgi any good resources to cover up CSS really quick?
 
Bob
2:41 AM
@Ramhound the trying to escape happens before the shopping :P
and god forbid you buy any heavy furniture... those boxes are bloody impossible to move
 
hi
@Bob any thoughts about weekend gaming this weekend?
 
Bob
@allquixotic uh. today I'll probably be busy. tomorrow is a probably yes :P
 
3:12 AM
My mom's coming back from india tommorrow
I don't know how busy I'll be
 
one of my coworkers is going to India tonight (might already be on a plane) on short notice; his dad is ill
had to find money and a plane and go right away, leaving a pile of work for me, but such is life
 
@allquixotic ow
@allquixotic in these situations its entirely possible to get shoved into the next plane going anywhere around there
My parents came back from visiting a sick aunt, she died while they were on the way back, and took the same plane back...
 
3:37 AM
@JourneymanGeek yep, I think that's what he did
he found out mid-day today, we barely even had a chance to tell the customer that he would be gone for 4 weeks
 
Ow
Its nice of your employer to give him the time tho
 
well, it's complicated, because he's a subcontractor... so... Government -> my company -> his company -> him
 
I think most of the companies like that contract like yours who I've come across would at best terminate your contract.
 
our company generally takes good care of our own, and our customer allows us to handle resource management the way we want (they're not allowed to pick and choose people because of the Federal Acquisition Regulations)
so if one of our "resources" (people) goes away for some reason, everything is hunky-dory if we can backfill them
or have someone work overtime
the only time our customer would get pissy is if we don't meet deadlines or deliver on commitments
but they don't care how we do it
that said, in the past, subcontractors have been more expendable than direct employees, during layoffs and such
the company tries pretty hard to keep its average, above-average and excellent direct employees, well, employed -- doesn't let go of them easily, no matter of hardship or illness or whatever
 
yeah, your guys seem ok
 
3:43 AM
we're a technology services company; we don't sell things, we sell the time of our people
so the company's worth is the sum of the stuff inside the brains of the employees
hence, losing an employee is a pretty big deal if they know anything useful at all
 
heh. I guess ;p
Maybe its the desktop support side
they just seem to be interested in numbers and cost ;p
 
desktop support is more interchangeable
we do testing, requirements analysis, software engineering, DevOps, consulting, that sort of thing
and our customers have big, complex internal systems and processes that take years to learn
a new hire, no matter how intelligent, is inherently less valuable and useful than someone who has a lot of organizational knowledge of our customers
a lot of our customers have built significantly complex internal software from scratch, or nearly from scratch (using some other platform like SAP or SalesForce, etc. as a springboard to write zillions of lines of custom code)
no matter how smart you are, it will take you hours to get simple things done when you hire on into that environment, whereas veterans of the organization just go tap-tap-tap and they're done
 
4:19 AM
Yeah, thats true
 
4:46 AM
@JourneymanGeek I was just looking at my suggested edits in my summary and noticed that the "pending"/"accepted" section is a link to the review status for that edit.
In that, a (more) link expands to show the review history of the reviewers, and the edit history for me.
Not realizing I'd had any rejected edits, it decided to see why I had 3 of them, and learn from that. I could only find 1 reject in my short history, and don't know where the other 2 come from.
Could they be rollbacks after the edit was accepted?
 
got links?
 
This is the only reject I can find. superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/636393. And I agree with it. I only fixed the image, and it needed clean up too.
Interestingly my history shows 105 suggestions, the expanded section there shows 104 approved 3 rejected, that's 107. 2 missing edits.
Not so worried about the record, per se, wanted to find what was wrong to avoid repeating the mistakes.
 
could have been deleted
I'd have "accepted and improved" that considering the circumsatances
 
5:02 AM
Duh. One was deleted in fact. we discussed it here. The temporally reversed duplicates. Could have been another one somewhere as well.
I don't mind the "reject". Now that I know it's there, I can check me record once in a while and learn from the rejected ones. The one G-Man cleaned up, for example. I should have done that myself, but didn't. Live and learn :)
 
In a sense though, I have lower standards for this sort of edits since its an essential site task, with long term implications which is a complete pain to do.
 
I'm actually having fun chasing down some of these images. Either spinning up VMs to create them or ferreting around in Google for things. This one was a beast.
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Q: Find text on an image

cregoxI want to be able to find text on the following awesome image and where the text is located in it. This is not the first time I stumbled upon such a challenge and probably many people have similar questions from time to time as well. I think this stands as a good instance of the general issue. T...

Found the huge version, finally too. :D
 
;p
that sort of thing would typically frustrate me
 
Maybe it's from chasing bugs in card decks, but I like digging around. Computers are fun and anything useful is secondary.
Speaking of long-term implications. I've also discovered that the first tag for a question is also the leader on the window title. So, that one above has [macos] as the first tag, and the window title is "macos - Find text on an image - Super User".
All the other tags are ignored.
 
ah
I don't have window titles on my browser ._.
 
5:13 AM
Then the tab titles.
 
I just have favicons
 
Hover should show them
What browser?
 
Firefox with the old onliner plugin
its a setup from when I was stuck with 1600x900 and 1366x768 screens mostly
 
I've got favicons blocked in mine. Too many times those are used as trackers.
 
shrug Anyone who watches me is going to be bored to death ;p
 
5:16 AM
I'd lead em on a merry goose chase. still, not if I can help it.
 
Lets see "Likes computers, hates people who abuse animals, even cats. Likes dogs"
there, that's all there is ;p
 
Close enough likes dogs, likes cats better. hates people who abuse animals, even dogs. Not too sure about the rest of em either.
 
I think there's been about 3 cats I've gotten along with
a friend's cat (which oddly enough hates most guys), a big old one eyed tom who was a lot friendlier than he looked, and died in a fight with a snake, and the little cat that lives just outside my neighbourhood (when she feels like being friendly)
Dogs on the other hand...
 
I've got some "feral" cats I can pick up. Won't let others even get close.
 
most cats I run into are feral
My friend lives in scotland and is very much a cat person
 
5:22 AM
Nice thing about feral cats, ain't no rodents around here.:)
Except squirrels, which for some reason they ignore.
That's ok, I feed them too.
 
oh
ours are a bit too well fed
though there's one that tries to catch rats
 
So, at <1K rep, how many edits can I have pending before I'm cut off?
 
er
I have no idea
I think edit bans are by rejections not pending edits
 
I haven't checked the count, but after so many, I have to pause until they're approved. Then I can resume. Just never counted them.
 
@Bob I just came across some spam for magic rocks
@GypsySpellweaver I THINK when I was a newbie, I never really came across those.
 
5:28 AM
If I wasn't doing the image fix, I wouldn't either. Think I might have done one edit on U&L just because the English was tortured and I had too.
 
I kinda was focused on answering stuff, then chat, then slowly got around to other stuff
a good chunk of what I did for community things was spam flagging ;p
 
I don't get to do much of that, not FGITW, so I seldom see any. Flagged a few though.
 
Its pretty hard these days to get em
smokey's typically faster than I am
 
Nothing wrong with that. unless there's a badge to be had. 'Course, that just means folks gotta work harder to earn it, if there is one.
 
heh I really hate spam
and I got my marshall badge due to that
 
5:38 AM
How many flags for a marshall?
 
500 accepted flags
 
Wow \o/
 
I think I was at around 2k when I got elected
 
That's something I won't have to worry about, election.
 
heh. I'm of the opinion you are ready when people bug you to stand ;)
 
5:42 AM
I can take a lot of "bug'n" and still ignore it. Not my cup of tea. Not in to office politics, or anything that smells like it.
 
Holidays! Oh yeah!
Hellllllooooooooooooo!
 
\o/ for holidays
 
Well, there's surprisingly little politics at the site level
 
Why is chat glitching on mobile
 
@Rahul2001 Pass all the exams.
 
5:43 AM
@GypsySpellweaver All exams are over. And they went amazingly
 
@JourneymanGeek The Q you put in meta about comments with abusive language was too political for my blood. Total non-confrontational here.
 
@GypsySpellweaver that's mostly an exception
and tbh, that's really down to my moderation style
there's lots of great mods who'd do differently
and the reasoning there is if it turns up again, I can go "Hey, so, these are what the rules say" or "Hey, this is how the community feels"
 
I'll just stick to a supporting roll. :) Ferret, dig, and digest.
 
90% of moderation is basically looking at the queue, and clearing out all the obvious stuff
then glaring at the less obvious stuff until you decide what to do ;p
 
I'll just fill the queue, and let others "decide" on it.
 
6:33 AM
._. lol. I got a question @ThatBrazilianGuy mentioned on chat as a review audit on the closevote queue.
 
@GypsySpellweaver essentially there's no way to fail that audit.
Its a very long question and I remember is and hitting leave open is less effort than hitting close.
 
Then why have it in the audit?
 
cause its something that shouldn't be closed and its the close audit
 
BTW, what's the "audit" y'all go on about anyway?
Some kind of test after you reach so much rep.?
 
6:38 AM
@GypsySpellweaver there's a thing called the review queue
so high rep users can help moderate the site with some routine tasks
it helps you find stuff that's by new users, close candidates and stuff
Some folk just robo-review these things for the badges
so there's little tricky fake items to catch people doing that
 
Been in the First Posts and Late Answers a few times. Usually on U&L, and it's often empty anyway.
 
Yup
Same thing
but ours was sitting at over a thousand for a long while
 
Hi. Can I ask a doubt here? If I have to get exam results from a page, I type in the roll number to do it. However, I want to like download the results of all possible roll numbers in a category. How do I do it? results.sofworld.org/results Someone told me to use wget. I tried for some time but failed.
 
and the bigger sites have these tests.
 
"Eyes wide shut" tests.
 
6:42 AM
@ghosts_in_the_code depends on how the site works. If its in the URL, wget would certainly work "easily"
otherwise, you need to do some deeper things. Especially if the site rate limits you
 
No it isn't in the URL
Such as?
 
eh, I'm not a web dev. But I suspect you need to what method it uses to transmit data and fake it somehow.
For example
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Q: How can I do a HTTP PUT with Wget?

JonasI am trying to use Wget to access a RESTful interface, but I can not figure out how to do HTTP PUT with Wget. How can I do it? Or isn't it prossible?

 
So only a professional can do it?
 
nope, but I'd take anything I say with a pinch of salt
 
Have to make a script to fake a bunch of POST to the site.
 
6:44 AM
I'd say web inspector on firefox and its chrome equivilent would be your friend
 
Yes I tried
I'm still not sure what the field names are or how the fill them up automatically
I don't know HTML, and it doesn't seem like HTML either.
 
@ghosts_in_the_code JS
And that looks like a drupal logo I think
Could you give me a valid set of example data?
 
DL0071-11B-005
 
and what olympiad?
 
Cyber for sure
Science could also work
 
6:48 AM
That's not what I'm seeing
and the format seems wrong
OH
 
DL0071-11B-005 is DL0071-11-B-005
 
I have no idea what I"m doing ;p
 
I would assume the information would turn up in web console, but no
 
6:52 AM
I didn't understand
 
Results are for SAMUEL DAVID ANAND SHADRACH
 
@GypsySpellweaver Which isn't actually that important ;p
 
First have to figure out how to craft the POST, then parse the returned HTML, not tiddly-winks, but doable. Wonder it will accept the values in a GET and still work?
 
Sounds like only a professional can do it. Can u pls do it? (Unless you are busy ofcourse)
 
Ah hah!
@ghosts_in_the_code are you on firefox?
Can I walk you through this?
(and this really needs to be a question)
 
6:56 AM
Chrome
I can post a question if it will be accepted
 
I can do this in FF ;p
 
I can download Firefox then
Should I do that first?
 
Yes please. Someone else will probably post a chromy answer.
 
Also should I post a question or u'll just tell me here
Ok thanks
 
hm
actually
don't, there's PII you need to answer it
I'll walk you through it here
ehh
actually no
 
7:01 AM
@JourneymanGeek That's why I mentioned the results. PII
 
the curl command does nothing
blaaaaah
 
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Q: How do get many results automatically from this page?

ghosts_in_the_codehttp://results.sofworld.org/results I was hoping if I could get all possible results of say type: 16th NCO Roll no: DL0071-**-*-*** My roll number is DL0071-11-B-005 I was suggested on chat to post a question. I have Chrome on Windows 10.

 
The page won't accept the values as GET, just displays the page.
 
yup. that's where I'm stuck
 
@JourneymanGeek Catch that PII in the Q.
 
7:03 AM
@ghosts_in_the_code are you comfortable with random people on the internet knowing your name?
 
Why? Is that a problem?
 
adios muchachos
 
The chances of somebody who knows me ending up on this chatroom are pretty slim, and it won't matter even if they do
 
@ghosts_in_the_code it would be publically identifying information, and many people are uncomfortable with it
 
Ok. I guess I have no one to fear
Some users even use their actual name as their username
 
7:29 AM
hm
got it except the submit button ._.
journalxtra.com/linux/bash-linuxsanity/… seems likely, but not gotten it to work
 
Bob
8:01 AM
@JourneymanGeek O_O really?
 
@Bob yup. '[
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek linky?
@allquixotic that's generally true of software dev companies :P
well, good ones
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek :(
 
@Bob totally thought it was at first glance :p
 
8:40 AM
@ThomasWard You could tell @music2myear yourself ;p
He pops by chat.
Its more of a waste of breath than anything bad tho, unlike edits
 
@fixer1234 I thought you might find this information useful: Note: Firewall App Blocker doesn’t change Windows Firewall default settings. If you use 3rd party security software or a 3rd party firewall (e.g. Avast), they can disable your Windows Firewall. Firewall App Blocker runs properly only if your Windows Firewall is enabled. Source: sordum.org/8125/firewall-app-blocker-fab-v1-5
 
9:07 AM
@karel, I spotted that someone had created a new tag [fab], which was dangerously ambiguous and undefined. I replaced it with a product tag and drafted a minimal wiki excerpt, not knowing if it will get used for more than the one question. I'm not really familiar with it. Do we need to do anything?
 
9:21 AM
@JourneymanGeek And if by some miracle you actually want to buy some magic rock the spammers links is 404 :)
The same spammer has just hit AU ...
 
@fixer1234 It's your call.
 
Wth
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Q: What Jeff Atwood is doing after farewelling to Stack Exchange?

user710935I found that Jeff Atwood is no longer part of Stack Exchange!! So, I'm curious to know what is he doing after farewelling Stack Exchange. Has he found any other amazing organization or project? Or developed/developing any software model, web engine or something else?

 
@Mokubai, I like your clarification in the comment.
 
:)
 
Wikipedia has the answer to your question. — DavidPostill 1 min ago
 
9:30 AM
Nice.
 
Is it possible for someone to have negative google-fu? :p
 
Sadly yes, i know a few people who can't find anything at all. Their google-fu is all kinds of messed up.
Jeff was great. Had some very strong ideas about certain things. Made a good BDFL.
 
@Mokubai Given the OPs comments he can't read either. I'm wondering if the question should just be nuked :)
 
Yeah, it was interesting for a moment. Now it's just... sigh
 
@Rahul2001 what do you mean? i learnt on w3schools.com
 
9:41 AM
@DavidPostill alas. my life will be incomplete
@Mokubai I find sometimes that's what makes a good BDFL
 
when did ikea become so cheap? i had the impression it was super expensive
 
@Burgi lol.
 
@Burgi I always assumed it was cheap tat that you built yourself
 
@Mokubai thats what i thought argos did...
but argos is like 3 times the price
and their website is broken
 
It's cheap stuff you build yourself but the finished product is reasonable quality.
 
9:43 AM
Ohhhh. If your comparing it to Argos, the "bargain bucket tat" store....
Argos have suddenly gone expensive for a lot of things
 
@Burgi always has been. A lot of their stuff is crap tho
 
the argos website has always been broken?
 
They never really caught up with the internet and fast paced price changing. I blame that bloody stupid dead-tree that they're still peddling.
 
their sales model was/is perfect for the internet
 
Argos? Feck no!
Their prices are fixed in stone for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long
 
9:46 AM
Bit of a secret.
Hotels tend to rotate through stuff every few years, and if you can find the places that resell those...
 
@DavidPostill hurt his feelings it seems: superuser.com/users/710935/frustrated?tab=profile
 
rediculously solid stuff, and dirt dirt cheap
 
i did a paper on argos at uni
@JourneymanGeek i'll take a look
 
Their electronic and electrical goods are overpriced and don't match what other places have, so they don't turn over stock well and end up with crap and out of date stuff. And then they don't actually get any new stock or new types and just become worthless for buying from.
We needed a 7" tablet a few months ago, for like 3 months they either had stuff that was out of stock everywhere or was about 2x more expensive than it should have been.
 
you realised you should go ikea yet?
 
9:54 AM
but they had lots of small warehouses located everywhere making home delivery and transition to the internet very easy
 
yet they screwed it up
with real bad stock control
 
they didn't screw it up
 
interestingly they got brought by sainsburys
 
they are still here and woolworths and index aren't
 
well woolworths dun goof'd
and i no idea what happened to index, but i seem to recall it was almost always more expensive than argos?
 
9:56 AM
and had no stores
they did ignore the threat of amazon
 
also, I am not a fan of ikea's chairs, but they're not that expensive.
 
fucking printers!
 
(I'd probably get a secret labs titan in future, they look nice and I get to support a local business, even if they probably make it in china ;p)
 
right i now have a PDF on my phone
 
Well I think ikea.com/sg/en/catalog/products/50339414 lasted me a few years
 
10:01 AM
i'm going to ikea, wish me luck... :(
 
why do u need luck?
 
@Burgi Keep to the line! You'll never escape otherwise!
 
@Mokubai That should be migrated to meta.se? Does the OP have enough rep to interact there?
 
@DavidPostill probably a dupe
 
@DavidPostill question was specifically asking about su..
 
10:16 AM
David posting is a dupe?
 
lol no
 
@TOWMN well yeah, David Posting is nearly a dupe of David Postill...
 
the question about what happened to The Atwood was ;p
 
Damn autoxucumwber
I can't even type autocucumber without getting autoxucumwber red now
 
that's a bit grubby
 
10:26 AM
That's gotta be the dirtiest UniFi AP I've ever seen
 
@Mokubai Yeah. I meant meta.su
 
Moving off a rented server (mostly serving websites); have moved the website data, moving /home/* data; exporting database data; and will copy over /etc/ for good measure as well. Anything else I shouldn't overlook?
 
@bertieb I haz a guide for this
 
@JourneymanGeek Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
 
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A: How do I "duplicate" a server?

Journeyman GeekIf all else fails, there's the old fashioned way - On Ubuntu or debian,use dpkg --get-selections to dump out a list of installed packages, and install them with dpkg --set-selections. The equivalent of this for red hat based distros is yum-debug-dump and yum-debug-restore (optionally with --insta...

Dumping out a package list seems smart
 
10:32 AM
Good point, yeah
 
@DavidPostill you need 5 rep to post on meta, but if a question you asked gets migrated there then all is fine
 
@JourneymanGeek o_O
 
@Mokubai Thanks. That's good to know.
 
My lazy method... dd if=/dev/sda of=backup-of-server.img => add to my ever growing collection of drive images I'm too lazy to ever sort through
Oh crap I'm in the UK. Still feels like I'm in Australia for some reason.
 
@TOWMN oh this is when you want to rebuild a box
 
10:35 AM
And I spent most of my time in Australia still feeling like I was in Thailand
 
My method of lazy backups is worse.
 
> How bad was Friday's defeat of the American Health Care Act in the House of Representatives? Bad. Very bad.
The AHCA was the first major piece of legislation pushed by the White House and the Republican-controlled Congress, a key political test early in the president's term, when he should be at the height of his power and party cohesion at its strongest.
In spite of all of this, Mr Trump, Mr Ryan and the Republicans running Washington could not get the job done.
For Republicans Friday wasn't just bad. It was a disaster.
Ahahahaha
My predictions are coming true!
Trump's presidency is just gonna be 4 years of nothing getting done
 
rsync, y u so slow?
 
Bob
@TOWMN don't forget to pipe it through gz
I don't think that's supposed to happen...
 
@Bob which fork?
 
Bob
10:45 AM
@JourneymanGeek ?
 
lol
hexchat? xchat2?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek hexchat. there's a fork? o.O
 
lol
that's the active fork, everywhere
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I'm confused
 
they stopped maintaining xchat in about 2013
there's a few non official builds (notably silverex) which arn't around any more
 
10:47 AM
> Singapore teen blogger Amos Yee, who was jailed twice in his homeland for posting political and religious criticism online, has been granted asylum in the United States.
 
Bob
ah
 
hexchat's the one that...
@TOWMN Not sure if political or inane...
guy's like a glorious troll.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek you suggested it I think :P
 
@Bob I used silverex years ago
then xchat WDK
which became hexchat when they ported it elsewhere
Anyway it uses a plugin for the task bar icon and sometimes it gets a bit odd
 
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