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@JourneymanGeek That was interesting, although the example pictures didn't work properly for me :(
 
@MichaelFrank they're supposed to flicker
 
Can I please get a "sanity check" from the assembled brain trust? I think that I had my own version of Approving edit proposals - am I too strict?. What is your opinion regarding the following edit scenario:
 
@JourneymanGeek I know, but because I'm on a VDI the refresh rate isn't working correctly.
 
ah. that working is highly dependant on that
@Run5k that information seems important
I'd reject
 
12:12 AM
Yea, I would've rejected it as well.
 
@JourneymanGeek, my thoughts as well. Additionally, this question has stood the test of time: it is more than seven years old with 96 up-votes and over 137,000 views. I'm quite certain that it has been scrutinized rather extensively before now.
 
I don't think its worth rolling back either though ;p
but yeah, that dosen't really improve the question in any way IMO
techreport.com/news/31634/… I like wierd additional keyboard things too much but this seems shiny
 
Understandable. That being said, hasn't the person who proposed the change recently had a bit of an issue with superfluous edit suggestions?
 
ah
that has not been brought to our attention so far
 
@JourneymanGeek phwoar look at that thing. :o
 
12:17 AM
He was in one of the chat rooms recently, asking how long his suggested edit ban would last.
 
lols
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A: Chrome not asking to remember passwords

perI posted a link to answer the problem but some moderator decided to kill it. So much for this site and their egos.

 
looks below. Sees deleted answer with a comment saying what's wrong
Tons of interesting stuff today
 
@DavidPostill Be proud! Your answer was used in an audit review: superuser.com/review/first-posts/637512
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek It's hard for normal users to see comments on deleted answers, iirc
 
12:24 AM
Was it Tavis? Hmm... guess not.
 
@MichaelFrank My goodness! If his ego is that easy to bruise, perhaps the Internet isn't the right place for him. ;-)
 
> I have a row with 1300 random numbers created using the RAND function starting from B2 to AWZ2
wut... someone is using Excel in entirely the wrong way. o.o
 
@Bob I thought you can always see your own?
hm
unsubstanciated news story says another ipv6 tunnel service shuts down
> 3) some ISPs have told customers that they don't need to provide IPv6 connectivity because the customer can just use a tunnel from SixXS
is funny cause they wouldn't provide service if you weren't close enough to a POP
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek yea, but you don't get notified iirc and finding the answer is the hard part unless you happen to have the question link saved
 
also, it says nowhere on their site that they are
.... man, slashdot's worse than their usual shitty self
 
Bob
12:35 AM
> As the saying goes, "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action."

Thirty thousand times is a fucking declaration of war. Nobody is *that* incompetent.
 
I disagree. People can be.
;p
 
Bob
Though, it does depend on how it happened... I could see automated systems reaching into the millions in a couple mins. (And the fact that such an automated system works would be a breach in the first place...)
@JourneymanGeek I just found the quote funny :P
 
I do like how Google are approaching these companies that mess up this way.. "Hey dummies, you're ruining the internet for the rest of us, stop being morons."
 
@MichaelFrank and since they basically are the biggest combined browser vendor... they have a ton of push
 
Yea, having your root CA distrusted by 58% of the worlds browsers is a great motivator.
or is that 30%?
> Thank you for reviewing 20 close votes today; come back in 23 hours to continue reviewing.
Doin' my part!
 
1:03 AM
So I need help guys:
I want to add the partition correct?
or should I hit enter to continue?
I am thinking I need to add partition. Anyone agree, Enter discarded the results and sent me back to the main menu
I am so afraid....
 
@Ramhound heh, everytime I use that I look at the guide.
 
So can you trll
tell me what happens after I "add partition"?
*hit
So when I ran it again only 3 partitions showed up by the way
 
The 5TB MS Data is the partition I want
but afraid to hit A :$
 
1:18 AM
> Using the left/right arrow keys, change the status of the selected partition from D(eleted) to L(ogical). This way you will be able to recover this partition.
Don't hit A ;p
 
ok; so why isn't the partition being mounted?
Somethijg tell me diskoart will let me do it
but gparted says it's unallocated..
alright so do I want to write the partition structure?
 
I was wondering if asking about email here would be off topic here.
 
@AndrewLi too broad ;p
@Ramhound yes
personally I'd rather do an image and work off that but... 5TB
 
So what does that do just tell the partition table what's up does my data get touched?
 
@JourneymanGeek Is a question regarding how to do a certain thing with email, if even possible, off topic?
 
1:25 AM
@AndrewLi still much too broad
@Ramhound it should put the partition back as it was.
 
Ok, thanks!
 
@AndrewLi If you can tell me what the question you want to ask it, I can give you a vaguely definitive answer ;p
 
Alright... here it goes!
never use Easy RE
Thinking about doing a charge back....
 
I haven't done recoveries in a while cause I backed up everything
hm
there's a guy on SU who has a pretty interesting, free recovery tool
 
Bob
@Ramhound I could've told you that from the start :P
 
1:28 AM
yeah well 5TB was waiting for tax refund to buy a NAS
 
Bob
from the makers of easybcd... a similarly annoying program
 
i got it despite the fact EasyBCD did something similar to me
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek if you say it's spinrite I'm taking your chewtoy :P
 
don't ask me why.... I was desperate
 
no no
italian guy
 
1:30 AM
Parted Magic was worth it... $10 provided it solves my problem :-$
 
Bob
@Ramhound uh. you know gparted is foss... and so is testdisk...
you're trying to throw money at a problem that really requires finesse
 
pretty much
 
Bob
if you're going to throw money at it, use it on an extra drive so you can at least have a spare image before you start messing with it
 
I know I caused this soft failure...
i owe it to myself :-$
If I get my files ordering a Drobo tonight :-$
@Bob Every image tool I have didn't allow me to backup the partition
 
Bob
1:34 AM
@Ramhound ...what?
dd
a partition is just a bunch of bytes
@JourneymanGeek that's an epic answer
 
my brain stops working when my pc stops working :-$
 
don't back up the partition. back up the device
 
Bob
@Ramhound ok, start from the beginning: what happened? how did you lose the partition? what's the current state it's in?
step back and take a look at the whole
the more you throw random half-arsed recovery attempts at it, the more likely you are to permanently lose data
 
So my installation gave me an inaccessible boot drive error randomly after an update install
so I attempted to repair the EFI information thinking that might be it, that put me in position where Advanced Startup stop being offered
so I used Easy RE to repair the problem that made it worse, because it identified something wrong, and the next reboot my system partition was gone
but the partition still existed
so at the point of trying to restore the partition table
 
> So my installation gave me an inaccessible boot drive error randomly after an update install
 
Bob
1:38 AM
Ok, so how does, say, gparted or fdisk identify the partition?
Does it show up as unallocated space?
At this point you want to avoid any write operations.
 
This is precisely the situation where you should restore from the last known good backup. Or backup first. Recover later.
 
gparted did complain about GPT
 
Bob
Run fdisk -l /dev/sdX
or just run parted on it
@Ramhound complain how? what exactly did it say?
actually, let's back it up a step further just in case
 
sadly don't have the messy
 
Bob
are you in a linux live environment?
 
1:40 AM
also don't have a mouse
Yes;
but no mouse trying to solve the mouse being gone :)
 
Bob
run smartctl just to check there aren't any hardware issues
 
I can't do squat without a mouse :-$
Hold :)
 
Bob
@Ramhound shift+f2, xterm, it's a cli program
or ctrl+alt+1 to swtich to a tty
 
let me get the environment back again mouse should work this time... unless it decides to kill the HUB lol
There we go...had to discover the device
 
ROFL Louis has lost his mind!
 
1:46 AM
tempted to just do live Ubuntu...god I wish this was the weekend
 
Bob
@Ramhound probably would've been a better idea than parted magic, yes
@allquixotic ? (for us timezone-challenged people) :P
 
Score my partition is back!
 
Bob
o.O
 
wont bother trying to solve my boot problem though...
 
@Bob he's reading from a book called "Facinating Womanhood"
 
Bob
1:48 AM
o.O
 
@Bob he's reading an advice book for women from 1963 that's heavily rooted in religion and pre-feminist female behavior because a friend sent it to him and told him to read it
 
@JourneymanGeek well, I've got someone using my email to delibrately sign up for things against my will. I was wondering if there was a way to stop it. I looked through Security.SE but the answer's weren't definitive.
 
Your own email server or public like Google?
 
Public.
 
1:50 AM
@AndrewLi that's kind of a grey area to me. The answer is probably not.
 
I figured.
 
Bob
@AndrewLi "weren't definitive" how?
if they didn't offer a solution, that's probably because there isn't one
 
There's literally nothing you can do
 
Best answer? Sign up to everything, that way they'll get an 'already registered' error when they try. ;)
 
That's what I thought. I might need to see if I can somehow get a new email, but I need to keep all my current logins...
 
1:52 AM
@AndrewLi This feels as much a social problem as a technical one
 
Bob
could've sworn I saw a HNQ about this recent-ish-ly
 
Use filters... if it's like google or outlook
 
Is this person someone you know? If so, punch them in the damn mouth.
 
I see them everyday. And it's highly annoying and inconsiderate, but if you knew them, they would not stop
Anyways, thanks for the insight, I'll go a different route
 
@AndrewLi what sort of things? Filters feel like an idea here
 
1:55 AM
@JourneymanGeek Spam, and lots of other things I shouldn't mention here. Filters could work, but they've "contaminated" my personal email...
 
@AndrewLi essentially there's nothing you can do here :(
 
Thanks anyways
 
If you're using google, you can probably get a new account and delegate the old one.
Then set up some seriously strict set of filters for the old one
 
See if there's a browser addon that'll add an easy unsubscribe button to your inbox.
 
What in the world... this environment doesn't have NTFS -3G lol
what a useless Piece of Junk..
 
1:57 AM
read only NTFS?
you couls ude it to verify
 
Well trying to get my malwarebytes license information from my registry but this registry editor doesn't register it has a Windows partition
possibly because there is a random 16mb partition...
 
Bob
@AndrewLi If you actually know the person, and you're sure of who it is, you could consider the legal route.
This is harassment and possibly identity theft, after a fashion. The hard part is proving it.
A lawyer could better advise you there.
 
This guy has answered all of his own questions... o.o
 
Self documentation?
 
Yea, I think he works for Invantive.
Ahh, he's the Managing Director!
 
2:10 AM
Thanks everyone, gave me the courage to restore the partition table, not perfect but, my files are back. Which means I can image the partition using Acronis and Eventually mount it :-)
 
@Ramhound regular backups man
 
I know... better again was going to do a nas but then well reboot hell
last time then backup drive was literally on the desk...
that stung.....
broke my record of having a single installation for 7 years :-)
between 2 computers
 
lol
I've had this install since I built this car. Across 3 versions of windows and 2 SSDs
 
So you understand the sting :-) it was a sense of accomplishment and I could tell people they were misdiagnosising something when they claim windows was slow to load :-)
I now have to decide what drobo to order :-$
41 mins ago, by Ramhound
If I get my files ordering a Drobo tonight :-$
^^ LOL
The reason I have 5 multiple TB externals
But individually they are not very helpful.
waste of money....I would have a 20TB nas with all the externals I have... LOL
 
If you have that much external space, where were your backups?! :P
 
2:17 AM
sadly, all USB, tempted to break the smaller one open and see if I could use repurpos it
I was waiting on my nas because I like complete images of my hdd
and 5TB hdd meant yet another external because my current 5TB external hdd my other recovery on it
but the good news is that, I might, attempt to use test disk on my other hdd before I send it off for warranty:-$
 
Bob
@Ramhound I tend to do full reinstalls on OS upgrade
 
@Ramhound My previous storage server was a raspi with a hard drive attached
 
Bob
XP => Vista in 2007, Vista => 7 in 2011, 7 => 10 in 2016
 
How much is a drobo?
 
I am a data whore :-) and pack rat
 
Bob
2:21 AM
@Ramhound only? :P
from memory...
 
heh. I have a box that went from XP to 7 to 10.
not a "single" install tho
 
16TB $999 network NAS
 
Still have it. Debating whether its worth throwing in the cheapest video card I can find to get it running again
 
5 drive bay so only 2 configurations possible
 
Bob
external: 4x 8TB, 1x 5TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1.5TB
portable: 2x 2TB
internal: 3x 2TB (+ 1 dead)
 
2:22 AM
but also expandable later
 
Bob
that is too much storage
 
Crude they are sold out of the network mode!
 
@Ramhound I'd be tempted to build something like that myself
 
Heard really good thinks about the interface, brain dead simple, type good
 
Bob
@Ramhound isn't that a core requirement of a NAS?
 
2:24 AM
( feature rich but easy to use)
they got models USB type c and 3
 
Bob
eh, I tend to not like those cause if you ever want to expand, it's a pain
and often software updates stop early
 
what a drobo?
It's 5 bays I think it supports 8TB drives I pull a smaller drive out and put a larger one in and it expands
:-) if I want no failsafe
 
Bob
"I think it supports 8TB"
 
Phone browsing
cant berify and talk
 
Leo Laporte raves about Drobo's... but then they probably pay him to.
 
Bob
2:27 AM
see, with my own build I'd know it supports any SATA-compatible drive
 
Yep; 10TB drives
I would do Unraid but it's support for large drives is blah!
i also have a budget
:-)
i cant build my own 16TB 2 10GB network port LAN NAS for $999
 
Bob
eh. 2x 8TB is something like 400 USD
 
I am tempted to do the 24GB 4x6TB for an extra $300 :-$
 
Bob
chuck in a $100 mobo, $100 PSU, $150 CPU, $100 case...
 
honestly would know where to begin to Do my own NAS
 
2:31 AM
the 4 bay, ATX mini itx xase is the sticking point here
@Ramhound freenas is nice
 
wouldn't
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ya, hunting down the right case would be harder
but not impossible, there's NAS-like cases available
 
The good news this black drive is fine
 
Bob
but, yea, upgradeability
 
did a self-test no Erros :-)
 
Bob
2:33 AM
if you're happy with basically using it till it dies and maybe swapping drives, fine
the advantage of a DIY is you can add drives. you can add storage controllers.
 
if you drop one drive....
 
drobo let's you add drives too?
 
Bob
@Ramhound does it have enough space/ports to do so?
 
Yes it's a 5 bay
so that's 5 drives, there $1600 NAS is 10 bay
so I would have to find a case that supported 10 bays and figure out how to do the right type of raid :-$
 
that would be a lot bigger
and actually oddly trivial
You'd just go with a full sized case, which should give you at least 6 bays
 
2:37 AM
Yeah 50TB/24GB with fail over.
 
Bob
@Ramhound that's not so bad
 
its more data then I can use. My idea for the NAS use Acronis to make weekly scheduled backups
 
@Ramhound i just bought a single 3tb seagate and stuck it in a corner for that
then back that up daily to my main system
 
its soooo slow over USB :-$
 
2:39 AM
Over network ;p
actually my network's the bottleneck cause of the homeplug portion of it
 
Yeah so 3TB what $250 that's individually drives
My thought is drobo is what huge space
 
Bob
@Ramhound USB 3 isn't gonna bottleneck any HDD
actually network will bottleneck
 
I'd really love to swap it for a DIY setup tho
 
Bob
lots of HDDs can do 150MB/s+
GbE can't reliably do over 100MB/s
USB 3.0 (or 3.1 gen1) is fine over 300MB/s
 
2:40 AM
I run into USB power problems for whatever reason
 
Bob
10GbE still costs too much (computer upgrades. cables. switches.)
@Ramhound the trick is to use external desktop drives. portable drives aren't appropriate here
desktop drives have their own power brick
 
@Bob though a lot of folk seem to be going the second hand gear route
 
Bob
they're also much cheaper per GB
 
and its probably going to be affordable in a few years
 
@BOb I have several of them
 
Bob
2:42 AM
@Ramhound a 3TB drive costs like $100 now
@Ramhound then stop buying more portables!
 
but I still have a single point of failure with these external
 
Bob
external desktop drives are great for backups
btw, portable drives are portable drives
"external" drives normally imply desktop
 
dont have portables though I got several Backup desktop Pros
 
Bob
then there shouldn't be any USB power issues, because they're not even powered by USB
actually, the biggest problem I've seen are shoddy hubs that can't handle sustained transfer
the trick there is to ... not buy shoddy hubs -_-
still simpler than getting 10GbE to work properly
@JourneymanGeek in-wall cabling is still a pain, and of course that eats up a PCIe slot too
 
What's a good USB 3 Hub brand then?
 
Bob
2:44 AM
I won't consider it affordable until it comes as standard on a motherboard
@Ramhound For sustained transfer to external HDDs? So far I've had no issues with an Anker one
Had a mBeat before that loved to drop out. Ditto for AmazonBasics.
 
cause I tried Anker and if I connect all my desktop pros 24-slot surge protector, windows complains
 
Bob
Also had a Sabrent one that did fine
 
teied Sabrent also
 
Bob
@Ramhound ...Windows complains, how so?
 
USB resources
 
Bob
2:46 AM
What's a surge protector got to do with this?!
 
24-slot power bar :-)
its like 2-feet long LOL
 
Bob
@Ramhound USB resources? wha?
what exactly does it say?
...are you sure you don't have something dodgy hooking your USB drivers?
I've had 6 external HDDs connected at one time, no problems whatsoever
 
I plug in say my 2TB, 2 3TB, and one 5TB and when I connect my mouse it complains about USB resources
 
Bob
USB can theoretically support up to 255 IIRC
@Ramhound ...screenshot it next time
 
yeag I know it's weird. But it happens
 
Bob
2:47 AM
with the message verbatim
 
sure :-)
well notification will be tough to capture:-)
 
Bob
what else do you have connected?
 
but I'll try
 
Bob
cause apart from the HDDs I probably have 10 other devices... still no issues
 
mouse keyboard camera headset
portable hdd
fan
external Blueray
 
Bob
2:49 AM
eh. write down the exact error message.
 
I shall :-)
 
Bob
try removing the fan
rule of thumb is USB fans are bad news...
 
Yes; that one; I will try
 
Bob
what's the motherboard?
 
thing is when I built this pc I ran into this problem without the externals and the fan. Had to arrange the devices, separating USB 2 from USB 3. Honestly it's probably because everything is on one internal hub header. My other header pins got bent
 
Bob
2:53 AM
o.O
do you not have rear ports?
 
4th Intel generation ROg extreme 7 I think
whatever socket that was, the ROG extreme Maximus 6
 
Bob
you should have rear ports...
 
I do but it's all connected to one header
 
Bob
???
rear ports are directly on the motherboard
they shouldn't need to be connected to a header at all!
 
Let me think...
its not, i still only have one 6 port Hub
on the back
sorry it's been 2 years :-)
anyways it also doesn't always happen so it might be a single device that causes it prolly something simple like my key and
anyways it also doesn't always happen so it might be a single device that causes it prolly something simple like my keyboard
 
Bob
2:59 AM
 

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