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12:01 PM
@JourneymanGeek Figures. Gotta try to keep the chains on.
 
@JourneymanGeek Wrong again :)
> In 2009 Apple relented somewhat agreeing to allow third party browsers -- but only if they used Apple's own WebKit browser framework. A year later Apple went a step further, approving Norwegian browsermaker Opera Software ASA's (STO:OPERAO) Opera Mini, a browser based on a none-WebKit custom rendering chain (Opera later switched to WebKit).
 
user226528
@DavidPostill This comes from where?
 
@DavidPostill if they all use webkit then you might as well stick with safari
 
@Burgi The point is at least one browser didn't (although it does now).
 
12:06 PM
Firefox for iOS is a browser from Mozilla, for the Apple iPhone, iPad and iPod touch mobile devices. It is the first Firefox branded browser to not use the Gecko layout engine as is used in Firefox for desktop and mobile. Due to iOS security restrictions chosen by Apple (specifically the inability to set writable pages executable which is essential for just-in-time compilation), Firefox has to use the built-in iOS WebKit-based rendering framework instead of Gecko. Firefox for iOS supports Firefox Sync and is able to sync Firefox's browsing history, bookmarks, and recent tabs. == History =...
 
ah. Outdated I suppose
but not totally wrong
@DavidPostill opera mini is still presto I think
 
@DavidPostill Where's the Doritos?
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Only for server-side rendering. On the client side, it is on Blink.
 
 
@FleetCommand, we were discussing this review yesterday and I was hoping to solicit your feedback on it:
 
that was an actual flying pig
and it shut heathrow
 
user226528
@Run5k Oh, that. I approved it because I felt it unnecessarily ties the question to Windows Server 2003 64-bit.
 
12:20 PM
@djsmiley2k There is nothing wrong with my link.
 
@FleetCommand, from my perspective (as well as everyone who chimed in yesterday), it seem like an unnecessary edit. That text set the stage for the rest of the question, and beyond that this question has stood the test of time: it is over seven years old, has 96 up-votes and more than 137,000 views. The suggestion seemed rather superfluous.
 
user226528
@Run5k Okay. Duly noted. Do I need to know anything else?
 
...apparently not.
 
pigs can fly, its just a matter of thrust...
 
user226528
This is an example of what I hate the most: superuser.com/a/1191929/477799. I make a comment and someone else downvotes without a comment! That makes me the culprit.
 
user226528
12:24 PM
Oh, hell. I am downvoting too.
 
there is not context in the answer, it needs a flag to close as NAA
 
Ermm no
 
@FleetCommand ruins it how?
 
It is an answer, is not malicious, and isn't exactly self deleting if it isn't in a file in the first place
 
user226528
12:26 PM
@JourneymanGeek Overwrites its contents with "127.0.0.1 localhost".
 
@FleetCommand That's exactly what's supposed to be in a normal, unruined hosts file
 
user226528
This entry is not even required.
 
which, iirc what a default host file looks like
 
Well on Linux, Windows just has an example line with 127.0.0.1 localhost
IOW resetting a hosts file to the default standard state isn't exactly ruining it
 
@Run5k FWIW I think part of what was removed should have been kept. The fact that it's a thrid-party package, and that it's server 2003. There may be tools that would work in high/low versions, but not 2003, and some tool might only work on official MS packages, not 3rd-party. The actual name of the package isn't needed - yet doesn't need to be removed either.
 
user226528
12:28 PM
<blockquote># localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.</blockquote>
 
@DavidPostill what I posted isn't your link
 
QUestion seems unclear
 
If someone knows enough to modify their hosts file then they wouldn't need this answer
 
67
Q: What is required for a question to contain "enough information"?

FlykThis is the question edition of What is required for an answer to be high quality? One of the key problems that I see Software Recommendations having, is people asking extremely vague and simple questions that ultimately boil down to one of the two close reasons we see on the rest of the network...

 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Apart from that, my HOSTS file for example, has one valid entry.
 
12:29 PM
Will that do what the OP asks?
 
Gives SSL error.
 
@djsmiley2k Got it. Thanks.
 
Answer is about as clear as the question
 
Having stepped through this, its somewhat elegant, and not malicious. Also badly written as far as an answer goes
 
np
was about to link you to the question xD
 
12:29 PM
@GypsySpellweaver depending on what's causing the user problem
@djsmiley2k that's SR though
we had unique issues to do with quality
 
@GypsySpellweaver, thanks for the feedback. That seems to be the consensus opinion. Again, I know that the person proposing the edits has the best of intentions, but that really seems to be unnecessary.
 
@satibel Depends on what I archive... 100GBs of data for 21 DVDs. How much? 50-pack for $10 versus $60 WD external HDD
 
@djsmiley2k lol
 
Don't the red "X" on network connection mean "no connection"? How will change in HOSTS make the "X" go away.
 
@TOWMN Sounds like striptease or porno... No, I don't advocate that!
 
12:30 PM
Same goes for a self-piercing Galaxy Note 7 battery tbh
 
@TOWMN SICENCE. HOW DOES IT WORK?
 
user226528
@GypsySpellweaver It doesn't.
 
yah, but laptops are were allowed.
wait till they realise phones also have this function
 
@FleetCommand it could in very specific circumstances
 
So are were Galaxy Note 7's :-P
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek I am listening...
 
@JourneymanGeek They are a brand that sell fancy and trendy audio stuff.
 
You're still allowed "medical devices" with much larger batteries, funny enough
 
@FleetCommand iirc, MS has a connectivity check site. If you can't connect, you have a red X
if your hosts file has that, and you can't connect...
 
@JourneymanGeek WRONG!
It's a yellow triangle
 
12:32 PM
@TOWMN As always, it's a fight to the bottom of the idiots
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Wrong. If you can't connect, you will have a yellow ! mark.
 
Red X is for media disconnected
 
@TOWMN in which case, it won't work at all
buuuuut the question is a bit muddy anyway
 
who's more stupid, the people partially banning devices, or the terrorists who haven't worked out how to use them properly improperly yet.
 
@djsmiley2k All you need is an errorist with sleep apnea...
 
Bob
12:33 PM
@JourneymanGeek NCSI
 
my sleep apnea machine is plugged in :(*
 
swap half the cells in a li-ion pack with bombs, problem solved
 
Bob
I linked it just this morning :P
 
Do planes not have plug sockets now?
I generally don't move around much while sleeping...
 
12:33 PM
@djsmiley2k Most long haul ones do but they tend to be unreliable. Nobody needing a medical device should ever rely on working sockets on a plane.
 
@TOWMN I was thinking using the battery as the litteral attack
 
There was an actual terrorist attack with a explosive laptop
 
It'll make a nice zebra pattern on the x-ray machine too
 
> but was taken off the plane after it became disruptive
 
One person died. THe terrorist.
 
12:34 PM
too much duty free
 
@Burgi lol
 
The plain answer is A: plug in the cable, or B: disable the interface. either will remove the icon from the tray
 
'Pigs are more intelligent than dogs'
yeah, the pig knew it couldn't fly.
 
@JourneymanGeek And said laptop bypassed airport security by being smuggled on by airport staff
 
lul
 
user226528
12:35 PM
@GypsySpellweaver Or update your NDIS driver, if you have an Android phone connected. Remember my question?
 
No.
!!no
 
@TOWMN so essentially they're blocking a threat that has never worked.
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm happy with that
 
2 days ago, by TOWMN
Airport staff manage to smuggle a bomb past security by bypassing screening so we ban security screened passenger electronics. Logical.
 
indian airlines make you turn on the laptop to show it works
 
12:35 PM
it's funny tho, because they are only blocking part of the problem
 
@JourneymanGeek Eh, random guy in Doha made me do that too
 
Laptop batteries explode!
 
Same for my DSLR. But both were not at the security checkpoint
 
1. if we have plugs on planes, you don't need a battery unless your laptop is crap
 
@JourneymanGeek But ... "I'm taking it home to repair it. It's cheaper in India" ...
 
12:36 PM
@djsmiley2k its really more about risk mitigation and identification rather than security theater
 
My laptop turning on for 30 seconds doesn't preclude me having replaced 90% of the battery or filled the second battery bay with explosives
 
@DavidPostill why is it not in checked luggage?
 
@djsmiley2k Or said plugs are unreliable
 
@DavidPostill hah. actually might be true for phones.
 
@FleetCommand Don't remember _your_question, no. just the OP's
 
12:37 PM
@TOWMN then it comes odwn to how important is tht flight for you
no laptop, or no flight
 
@djsmiley2k Ironically the answer to the laptop ban is "put laptops in checked baggage" yet batteries are already banned in checked luggage because they explode a lot
 
lol
 
And by a lot I mean enough to make kneejerk panic reactions
 
is that not because the depressuirsation of the luggage?
 
@djsmiley2k Luggage compartment is pressurized the same as the cabin compartment
 
12:38 PM
it is?
 
(Hence why they sometimes keep pets in there)
 
mostly kneejerk reactions
 
aww boring.
 
user226528
@GypsySpellweaver When tethering an Android device with a USB cable, a bad NDIS driver causes half an hour delay in updating the X icon to a healthy network icon.
 
Also why planes explode when the luggage compartment door accidentally opens
 
12:38 PM
@djsmiley2k Because the insurance is horrendously expensive for laptops in check in baggage (the baggage handlers just chuck your baggage onto concrete as we all know)
 
the only Li Ion batteries I remember exploding was... from a boeing 787
 
There have been crashes because of that, now they put pressure relief valves between the passenger and baggage compartments, so the floor doesn't explode when the baggage door blows off accidentally mid flight
If aircraft baggage containers are designed to be bombproof I'm sure they can survive a hissing battery
 
@FleetCommand Missed that completely somewhere.
 
Worst case these days is you'll have a small hole, a bit of mist, and an unscheduled landing
 
This recognizes faces. Do screenshots from movies suffice to recognize actor?
 
12:40 PM
test it
 
I think the baggage compartment battery ban is more cause of the danger of fires being lit by the battery, rather than the battery itself
Fire = baaaaad
Most planes that catch fire crash and kill everyone on board
Most planes that crash outside an airport catch fire and kill everyone on board
 
@TOWMN Fire = Goood, a: not into raw meat :( B: no fire, no flight
 
Most people who survive a plane crash and still die, catch fire and still die.
 
uncontrolled fire = not so good
 
or those people run over by firetrucks
 
12:43 PM
Eh, controlled regular combustion on a plane isn't generally called fire.
Even in an engine fire = bad
 
so we can't just surround the entire baggage compartment with fiberglass, and land with some roasted dog horse?
 
Engines have blown up cause of fires. Controlled combustion in an engine, I wouldn't call it a fire because it's non-self-sustaining
 
It exists under C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts on every Windows machine. — hgiesel 1 min ago
wut
wwhy would you be editing that o_O
 
people do it to block spam
oddly enough
 
is that where it's stored now?
Last ime i edited hosts file was windows XP most likely
and it was like c:\windows\hosts
 
12:50 PM
wiki says its in %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
yup
 
this conversion tracking company we use appears to made up of idiots
> we will send you the javascript code
sends 1x1 pixel
 
@DavidPostill no browsers on iOS use any rendering/layout/JS engine other than Apple's
 
@allquixotic My point was that Opera Mini did not (at one point).
 
user226528
@djsmiley2k No such folder has ever existed in Windows.
 
user226528
news.softpedia.com/news/let-s-chat-what-went-wrong-with-windows-phone-514218.shtml
 
1:04 PM
@FleetCommand FTFY
 
@FleetCommand Really? :)
There is at least one that exists ...
 
user226528
@DavidPostill Ha! Ha! Very funny. You can make folders! In Windows folder too...
 
Urgh 20Mbps 3G is so crap. Can't even watch Youtube 4K60
 
@TOWMN Whaaaat. Stop complaining about having decent internet. Seriously.
 
@Rahul2001 20Mbps on a mobile is hardly decent
I had 200Mbps yesterday
Though the bigger issue really is it's metered and inconsistent
 
1:14 PM
*blocks @TOWMN because max you get here is like 3 mbps on 3g and now I'm jealous*
 
Worse is having to constantly juggle between 3 phones 4 SIMs, 12 bands and 2 VPNs depending on where I am, what I'm doing, and how much I feel like being ripped off for the privilege.
Would be nice to have "just works" and unlimited home Internet/WiFi
 
heh.
I have that ;p
Even have ipv6
 
Heck sometimes just having a chair to sit on while using the Internet would be nice.
 
I have at least 5 joints in pain now because of all the awkward positions I've had to contort myself into just to get a signal while also holding a 4kg laptop in a useble position
 
1:23 PM
get a long usb cable
ur crying about it, but it's not like you couldn't just actually get a jorb
@DavidPostill yus
Not just me that remembers there's more than just windows 7
 
@djsmiley2k (whoosh)
 
Jobs might give me a company car but I don't have a license so I don't see how that'd help with the chair/home problem.
 
@TOWMN Normally 5 joints would remove all pain ;p
 
Deal of the Day March 24: Half off C# in Depth, Fourth Edition. Use code dotd032417au at http://bit.ly/2mTRMZy
 
@DavidPostill 0_0
 
1:33 PM
@JourneymanGeek I'm speaking from experience - after having my wisdom teeth (with a extra root - I'm a mutant) removed many years ago ;p
 
all 4 of my wisdom teeth shattered, that was fun.
 
@DavidPostill I would have no idea. ;p
Singapore's drug laws are strict
 
@djsmiley2k Mine may have done as well. I wasn't awake to notice ...
 
:D
my dentlist looked at them and went 'well i could try and take them out, then send you to hospital. Or we could just get you booked in at the hospital'
so i went for the 2nd option.
 
Also not sure how it'd help with the 4-6 week wait + 18 month contract to get a home broadband connection problem
@djsmiley2k Did you get punched a lot? Or just bad luck?
 
1:36 PM
roaccutaine + overcrowded mouth
I'm at a count of 8 teeth removed, (including wisdoms) and still over crowded
 
@Boris_yo 10$ for 50 dvds probably won't get you archive quality dvds, or it's a good deal.
(heyo)
 
@djsmiley2k Similar for me. But I only had 2 upper teeth removed. They grew behind the others ...
 
talking too fast makes so chat unhappy x)
 
Bob
@allquixotic @JourneymanGeek whoops. gitter isn't part of github, it's part of gitlab
O_O
 
Morning (evening?) Bob
 
Bob
1:38 PM
@TOWMN eh... both? :P
 
@Bob which is odd since its tied into github
 
Urgh I don't get why connecting and disconnecting from a WiFi network needs Windnows to freeze for a second to power up my dGPU
 
because windows 8+ is dumb and "needs" the dGPU for mundane tasks
 
It "needs" the dGPU to unshow a menu that's already been rendered by the iGPU?
facepalm
 
the difference for my laptop is 4 hours on 7 and 2 on 10, because 10 (ab)uses the dGPU.
 
1:43 PM
My laptop does 15 hours on 10. Never tried 7
Vista used to get me 50% more battery time than XP, back when everyone hated it so much I loved it :-/
Better battery life, much better SSD and RAID performance, and DX10
 
vista isn't bad, just that on some pc, it was crashing, because min ram req was 512mb when it should have been 1G
 
Yeah
Most people were just moaning it was slow, I be like, get a better PC dude(tte)
I had 4GB of RAM and it was fine.
Mind you, the wireless menu/UI was still crap nomatter how good your PC
 
 
... that's an outrage... Only 3g?
 
@JourneymanGeek It's a new country
 
1:52 PM
@TOWMN a country needs to start on the right foot.
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah. Well, might just be the iPhone's fault for not supporting all the necessary roaming bands
 
then our neightbours get better reception and 4g on their flags. WE CANNOT ALLOW FOR A SIGNAL GAP!
 
@DavidPostill the pressure on my wisdom teeth is partially what caused them to crack
 
My mom punching me in the face is what caused my teeth to crack
 
> When news that Nokia is planning to bring back its iconic 3310 with updated hardware this year, consumers all over the world wanted to know when they could get their hands on their devices.
One major roadblock stands in the way of the Nokia 3310 reaching the US market: US carriers don’t support the 900-MHz GSM band. HMD Global, who currently owns the Nokia brand, is still in the process of negotiating with carriers to sell Nokia-branded phones to ensure that these compatibility issues are ironed out.
Ermm, it'd better not be 2G only, or it won't be supporting any bands in Australia soon
 
I think its 2g only
 
is the australia market big enough to care about?
 
@djsmiley2k big chunks of the developed world are dropping 2g
and the nostalgia factor's mostly in this countries.
 
Bob
2:19 PM
Mar 9 at 0:58, by Bob
@Burgi no 3G, so you can't even do network
been there said that :P
 
@Bob derp
Kinda a really stupid decision imo
They had robustly built Nokias in the mid 2000's with 3G and 14+ days battery life.
 
yup
I think they just rebadged a cheapie in a new shell
I don't think they expect to sell that many either
 
Bob
@TOWMN 'cept it's not Nokia anymore :(
 
this is like bond isn't bond
it is, just a different one
 
"hey [It guy] my scanner isn't sending me mail"
"ok, I'll see what's wrong"
"see, when I click 'recieve' I get an err... no, never mind, it works now."
 
2:27 PM
magic
 
wololo
though, for battery life, I like my tank.
http://images.frandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/oukitel-k10000-12.jpg
with 4G and touchscreen.
 
I'm pretty happy with my op3
and I have a large xiomi powerbank in my backpack
 
5-10 days without powerbank is nice ^^
 
summer has arrived!
did you know the sky is actually blue?
 
@satibel my old nokia did 3 weeks
 
2:30 PM
5 days is medium-heavy use, music all day and 4 hours of playing.
 
0_0
@satibel that's impressive
 
though 350grams
 
there's always a tradeoff
 
but I have a headset.
 
I have occationally answered calls through my watch ;p
 
2:33 PM
it's a pretty good 125$ phone with an aluminum shell and 10Ah battery.
 
@Burgi Nope, never seen it
@satibel So weighs more than my phone and a powerbank combined?
 
@Burgi tommy Edison says nope.
 
Hardly impressive to get the same battery life as my phone with a powerbank, when you have a phone with a powerbank strapped to the back of it
 
@TOWMN i can't be held responsible for the grey skies of doom that infest scotland
 
it's just easier to carry than a phone + pb
 
2:36 PM
@satibel I disagree
powerbank goes in the backpack
phone goes in my pocket.
 
and if I don't have a backpack? :p
 
Even if it was, I could get better battery life by gluing 1.5 powerbanks' worth of additional batteries into the back of my phone for the same weight...
Though quite what the airlines would say to that after the Note 7 debacle I wonder
 
honestly, I just forget the battery bank at home.
 
Back when I was younger nobody batted an eyelid when I trudged around a nokia with two bare 18650 cells duct taped to the back with wires sticking out
Back then nobody thought an Asian could be a terrorist
 
@TOWMN reminds me when I retrofited a couple of those on my old LG, with duct tape and hot glue
and epoxy
 
2:39 PM
Now that I'm an asian-british immigrant I'm clearly far more dangerous
 
@satibel I forgot mine in my bag
and was wondering why it was so heavy
@TOWMN other kind of asian tho.
I'm more likely to get mistaken for one.
 
Eh, you wouldn't be able to feel the weight of my powerbank in my bag, since it's got my 3.5kg laptop + 1kg power adapter in there most of the time
 
was that one
 
Powerbank adds an additional what, 3-4% weight?
@JourneymanGeek mistaken?
You mean CAUGHT
 
@TOWMN ethnic indian. Oh and my human's passport says cylon ceylonese.
 
2:40 PM
Any dog wearing a hat is clearly trying to hide something
 
cyclonese?
 
@satibel my dad grew up in Jaffna
Jaffna (Tamil: யாழ்ப்பாணம் Yalpanam, Sinhalese: යාපනය Yāpanaya) is the capital city of the Northern Province of Sri Lanka. It is the administrative headquarters of the Jaffna district located on a peninsula of the same name. With a population of 88,138, Jaffna is Sri Lanka's 12th largest city. Being strategically located and known for rich cultural heritage and natural beauty, Jaffna is approximately six miles (9.7 kilometres) away from Kandarodai which served as a famous emporium in the Jaffna peninsula from classical antiquity. Jaffna's suburb Nallur served as the capital of the four-century...
 
> Jaffna
bless you
 
I don't know what any of those words mean, so I'll assume it's dog language
 
For some reason, since we kept the colonial racial classifications, I'm legally "ceylonese" or sri lankan tamil
 
2:43 PM
My dad grew up in your mom his mom
 
@TOWMN dude, Not your best work
 
I am "berrychon".
 
@JourneymanGeek Really?
What would be my best work then?
 
hm. Actually its all terrible.
 
Also I've never been to Sri Lanka. I'd never even Google Maps'd it till today
@JourneymanGeek That;d be why I'm out of a job then
 
2:44 PM
gonna go, bye.
 
@TOWMN actually, you totally need a day job, comedy isn't for you
 
see you next time I connect.
 
@JourneymanGeek fracking ceylon! ;)
 
@JourneymanGeek Hahaha
So funny
You know what makes me laugh? Indians being mistaken for terrorists.
Hahaha
I'll get my coat.
Coat... of FUR
 
@TOWMN don't forget your hat. and boots. And green eggs and spam.
 
2:47 PM
our customer keeps sending me their database to import in the wrong format
 
@Burgi A 1x1 blank pixel?#
 
no something else
 
An encryptoed photo of a cat?
Cause that's totally whwat I'd do
 
its a list of their consumer suppliers to upload to their website
 
i really really need to sit down, get a laptop working, and setup a bag to go
 
2:51 PM
it needs to be in a certain format so i can generate the geocodes but they keep ignoring my instructions
last time 17 of them failed to generate geocodes
 
so it got sent back to them and they've returned it just now but they "corrected" the wrong addresses and not done enough of them
@JourneymanGeek nice work
 
XiiaLive depleted my phone of battery life and I failed to wake up early...
It's a radio streaming app that I left in the background. It does not have "Exit" option so I couldn't "kill" it/
Probably spiked CPU which led to depletion.
 

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