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11:00 AM
cool, googles doing 1boxing on stackoverflow answers.
PHPExcel looks like the right way
 
you do have backups right?
coupla stories in the hacking link bob just posted, the creators destroyed thier own data, and then thought making viruses was no longer a good idea :-)
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek "very old" -- literally the same as the one I just replaced, that had a CPU I was happy to keep using...
@djsmiley2k welcome to PHP!
it could be their motto
 
@Bob :D
 
Bob
"PHP: it just silently fails \o/"
 
i've used php on and off for a few years
since uni infact, which was errrr about 8 years ago?! XD
 
11:08 AM
because being an american president ages you at about 4X rate, what will donald trump look like in 4 years?
 
a wotsit?
 
@Bob I'm lolling cause I'm using a web browser on an even older machine...
without any magic mods. Just a simpler DE, which is exactly what he dosen't want to do
 
@djsmiley2k google has gotten rich by making your data look like thier data then sticking ads on it and tracking it. oneboxing in this case is ownership :-)
 
Bob
I wonder how much the 8tb hdd weighs
 
is it a new 7 platter?
 
Dog
11:13 AM
@Bob I'LL TAKE DAT PHONE
 
Bob
idk, seagate expansion drive
oh god it weighs 5kg
 
Dog
@Bob Automatic power saving takes a few minutes to settle in?
 
Bob
not shipping that one by comgateway
 
Dog
@Bob wot
 
@Bob thats the shipping weight?
 
Bob
11:14 AM
@Psycogeek the HDD's physical weight
for once it outweighs the volumetric weight
 
Dog
Mine was 0.78kg
 
Bob
@Dog ...1.7kg. I can't read
 
Dog
If they were 5kg each my server would weigh near 200kg...
 
Bob
> Weight (g/lb)

1.720/780 (8TB)
1.720/780 (6TB)
1.444/655 (5TB)
 
Dog
@Bob 1.2? 1.0? 1.7? :-o
 
Bob
11:15 AM
Google results confused me :P
 
Dog
That page has it the wrong way round
 
Bob
> Physical

Height (in/mm, max): 1.028/26.1
Width (in/mm, max): 4.00/101.6
Depth (in/mm, max): 5.787/146.99
Weight (g/lb)
1.720/780 (8TB)
1.720/780 (6TB)
1.444/655 (5TB)
 
Dog
1.7lb. 0.78kg
 
Bob
Google showed me "5.787/146.99 Weight (g/lb) " in the preview snippet
 
Dog
@Bob You should know better -_-
 
Bob
11:16 AM
@Dog I DON'T KNOW, IT SAYS g/lb
 
Dog
@Bob IT'S WRONG
 
Bob
yea 0.78 sounds more like it lol
 
Dog
I should get them to fix that -_-
 
Bob
@Dog I thought it sounded wrong, but I'm dumb
 
its one of them chineeze drives, it has a flash stick in it and 20 lbs of lead
 
Dog
11:17 AM
Coincidence? :-O
 
Bob
yes, yes, I'm dumb, why not rub it in :P
 
lol
 
Bob
hm. I can get it external and attach via USB, or get internal ones and go with good ol' sata
except internal costs $30 more
 
Dog
>
Fri Jan 20 10:15:25 2017 kern.warn kernel: [145397.877632] ath10k_pci 0000:01:00.0: SWBA overrun on vdev 0, skipped old beacon
Fri Jan 20 10:15:27 2017 kern.warn kernel: [145399.925708] ath10k_warn: 4 callbacks suppressed
Err yeah I think this ath10k driver is still a bit unstable. :-/
 
@Bob wut
get external, remove chassis...
 
Bob
11:21 AM
@djsmiley2k cbf
 
I tried to find a php chat room and failed :(*
 
Bob
knowing my luck it'd just have a permanently soldered board anyway
 
Dog
....aaaand we're back
 
Bob
>
Question:
Rpm and cache of the 8tb?
Answer:
I have had this drive for about 8 months. No a single problem. I am not that tech savy so I can't help with rpm and cache. Sorry
 
Dog
Well I suppose it survived nearly two days without crashing, which is better than the two seconds it used to do -_-
 
Bob
11:22 AM
GODAMMIT WHY EVEN ANSWER
 
Dog
@Bob -100 users found this answer useful
Gah
 
if it was on SU we could edit it then close it
 
Dog
I really want a new gaming laptop
But I also really want that new Lenovo vaporware
 
11:27 AM
guise, where can I get php help? :/
D:
 
11:51 AM
ugh
I need a new chair
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek fix not good?
 
Dog
@Bob Done
 
2 options
buy a new chair
or redo the tension straps and screw a metal plate across the break
I really wanted to put it off till I got a job though
lol
 
Bob
ok, ordered another two HDDs
they cost another $20 more than last time
except this lot will be going through comgateway
if the last lot turns up... welp
if not... hm. to refund or to get them to resend... :P
 
12:04 PM
tbh, half jokingly wonders if he can buy car seats in singapore
 
dodgy how?
 
Dog
£760 for a current-gen high-end gaming laptop from a car dealership
 
ok, it is rediculously cheap
and the model is out of stock on the official site
> I CȦN'T SHlP T0 ȦLL ADDRẸṢSES. BEF0RE "ȦDD T0 BȦSKET"; C0NTȦCT US: ◚info[ẚṫ]mail592.com◛
Seems legit.
 
Dog
They also have a 4K dell XPS for £562
 
12:08 PM
that is to say... not
 
Dog
4,000 items for sale but only 30 feedback in a year? :-/
 
pretty sure its a scam ;p
 
@Dog lol
 
Bob
 
Dog
> We want you to buy with confidence anytime you make a purchase on the Amazon.co.uk website or use Amazon Payments; that's why we guarantee purchases from third-party sellers when payment is made via the Amazon.co.uk website or when you use Amazon Payments for qualified purchases on third-party websites. The condition of the item you buy and its timely delivery are guaranteed under the Amazon A-to-z Guarantee.
 
Bob
12:12 PM
"fix"
I'm using a local account.
 
Dog
@Bob Yeah I had that too after deleting a microsoft account, seems to be unclean removal
 
@Dog Reported!
Now where do I collect my Amazon mod points?
 
Dog
@OliverSalzburg Ooh you can report? Nice
 
@Dog Well, you can start a chat with the support team ;P
 
Dog
Was wondering if there was such a button. But there's two sellers listing it at that price, one has decent feedback but is an outdoor/camper van/trailer sales place
@OliverSalzburg Eh, I was hoping for an automatic "Report" button, chatting with sales is too much effort
 
Bob
12:14 PM
@Dog I never had a MS account in the first place.
This machine was local from the start.
 
AFAIK there is no real report feature
@Dog Yeah, I agree
But I do it anyway because these scammers piss me off so much :P
Always teasing me with their low, low prices
 
Bob
@Dog Write a template email, and just copy/paste it :P
 
Dog
@OliverSalzburg Did you report Hammersleys or "I CN'T SHlP T0 LL ADDRSES. BEF0RE "DD T0 BSKET"; C0NTCT US: info[]mail592.com" or both?
 
I am neither psychic or a mind reader and I don't like guessing games. What is the make and model of your computer? Please edit the question and include this essential information. — DavidPostill 12 secs ago
 
Dog
> Samsung has updated its S7 and S7 Edge handsets to Android 7.0 Nougat. As part of the update, the resolution is downscaled to 1080p.
WAT
CC @Bob
 
Bob
12:24 PM
@Dog o.O
 
Dog
> The default of the QHD (1440 x 2560) display to FHD (1080 x 1920) is the result of Samsung wanting to improve users' battery life. The display is able to be set as low as HD (720 x 1280) and as high as QHD, and if you want to change the resolution back to either of them according to your taste, you only need to go to the Display settings to do so.
Ooh user settable display resolution
 
Bob
@Dog :D :D :D
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I could do with 720 tbh
 
Dog
Same
This old-ish game I play runs fine with the CPU set to 1.2Ghz max and the GPU at 200Mhz. It'd be better if I could set the resolution down too
 
speaking of which
 
I want to make the media on my laptop accessible on all the smartphones and tablets in the house. Tell me what I need inorder to do it.
 
12:32 PM
my OP3 just got nougat
@Nick magic
 
@JourneymanGeek congrats. How's it in comparison to marshmallow.
 
@Nick no idea
still installing
 
@JourneymanGeek Mr.sysadmin, I expected a less Peter Pan response from atleast you.
 
also for media sharing, wouldn't UPnP work?
 
@Nick VTC "too broad"
 
12:35 PM
@DavidPostill lol. how about if I say, stream videos on my laptop through my phone browser. That sounds achievable.
 
@Nick It does indeed. lmgtfy.com/…
 
@Dog The latter. I just gave them the URL you posted here
I usually just send them 1 line: "I found a suspicious listing at: …"
 
@Nick I might lose miracast support
 
@JourneymanGeek how do I check if my devices support UPnP?
 
@Nick you'd at most need an app for it
 
12:43 PM
Sounds to me that all I need is a good server program for windows 19
 
go poke wikipedia ;p
19?
 
Dog
Yes. 19x more leet than Windows 1
 
YAYAYAY! WE WON!
We won we won we won, oh my god, I'm the best presenter on earth...
enthusiasm fades away as I realise that Donald Trump just became the president of the United States
 
Won what?
If it was 'Person most likely to become the next President of the US' then I'm sorry, so so sorry.
 
Dog
Huh. Visual Studio is free now?
@Rahul2001 WRONG
Still four hours left to go
 
12:59 PM
Ah, right, time differences
 
@Dog The free one is
 
Dog
@OliverSalzburg Hmm. Dreamspark aka Imagine seems to only have the free one now
 
The free one is the Community edition AFAIK. Then there's also Professional and Enterprise
The last two are not free
At least not for the general public AFAIK
 
@Dog That's enough time for an action movie to still do something to fix this historical error.
@JourneymanGeek I meant 10. typo. Anyhow, can you reccomend any server applications?
 
@Nick not off the top of my head
 
1:14 PM
Any server applications?
 
I recently found an app called AirDroid which lets me remotely access files on my phone through its ip.
 
@Nick Yeah and it also allows everyone else the same access ;D
 
@OliverSalzburg I mean one that will run on windows and give me the feature I need.
 
...I think they fixed that now
@Nick What are you looking for? Couldn't find it in the previous messages
 
1:16 PM
43 mins ago, by Nick
I want to make the media on my laptop accessible on all the smartphones and tablets in the house. Tell me what I need inorder to do it.
 
@Nick Ah, gotcha
Why not sync the media with a central server?
 
well it depends on the smartphones and tablets, and what kind of access they have
something like plex works, if each device can load plex (or the plex webpage)
Or you can share them via filesharing, such as smb
 
@OliverSalzburg I'm a college student with one laptop and a phone. I can't afford to even think about affording to afford a central doohickey.
 
lol
@Nick anything can be a central server
you just need to have an idea what you have lying around and what you need
 
1:23 PM
@Nick then turn on windows file sharing, download SMB client apps and away you go! not sure what's so hard about that
 
@JourneymanGeek Lenovo Ideapad, I choose you!
 
(assuming all the devices are on the same WiFi network and can ping eachother)
 
@allquixotic that's a go. So, I found a client called AndSMB. I'll tell you guys tomrrow if it worked.
 
gramps says hi
and if not for the namespace I'd totally call this system gramps ;p
 
$cacheMethod = PHPExcel_CachedObjectStorageFactory::cache_to_phpTemp;
$cacheSettings = array( 'memoryCacheSize' => '256MB');
PHPExcel_Settings::setCacheStorageMethod($cacheMethod, $cacheSettings);
wooo runnin outta mem
[Fri Jan 20 13:28:25.580140 2017] [:error] [pid 5916] [client 10.0.2.2:49489] PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 18874368 bytes) in /var/www/html/Classes/PHPExcel/CachedObjectStorage/PHPTemp.php on line 65, referer: localhost:8080/upload.php
oh wait, heh fail
 
1:33 PM
@JourneymanGeek motorcycles...?
 
@allquixotic example given in the book I was using
see the massive list of better IDEs I should be using from earlier ;p
 
@Nick So the devices you want to share your media with aren't your own devices?
Because that is somewhat limiting in regards to solutions ;D
 
when is that pic from?
 
7 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek
man. learning to code is tiring.
 
Dog
Eh. So the latest Iris/Iris Plus GPUs can run Crysis
 
1:34 PM
@allquixotic about 5 minutes ago
 
recently? O_o
@Dog as in Kaby Lake only, or...?
 
Dog
@allquixotic Nah, Skylake too.
 
@allquixotic its an older machine. Its offline - and has a pretty nice keyboard for a laptop
 
@JourneymanGeek yup
 
its very good for avoiding distraction
 
Dog
1:35 PM
There's actually zero improvement in Iris from Skylake to Kaby Lake
 
@JourneymanGeek I use the net constantly when coding
to check things and such, i hear it's quite normal...
 
Dog
The stock (non-Iris) GT2 iGPUs got faster, the Iris/Iris Plus ones didn't. Iris Pro's aren't out yet AFAIK
 
@djsmiley2k oh, the idea here is context switching
 
but I've got quite good self control even when I don't want to do something
 
I keep getting distracted by shinier things
 
1:36 PM
@Dog I have Skylake Iris 550 on a U-line CPU (5657U?) and it plays Elder Scrolls Online at 1440x900 on high texture detail, no MSAA, medium shadows and such at 30 to 60 fps depending on the scene
 
the PC is right next to me and I have the book, fullscreen on a display
 
Dog
But the Skylake Iris Pro beats the GTX 940M in most games, while using half the power
@allquixotic IIRC 550 is Iris Pro
 
o_O it is??
 
Dog
Nope
 
Dog
1:37 PM
Yeah, that. I want one of those.
 
@JourneymanGeek ah nice.
 
Dog
The 28w U-series Iris (now Iris Plus 550/650) beats the 940M in most titles
 
that's a good way to make yourself pratice by doing too
 
@Dog it's in the top-model Macbook Pro 13" :P
 
you've got to type everything, rather than copypasting it.
 
Dog
1:38 PM
The 15w U-series Iris (now Iris Plus 640) is about 20% the 940M
 
@OliverSalzburg they're my own devices but I'd like the general for-the-crowd solution.
 
@Dog are they branding the 550/650 (same chip/same perf?) as "Iris Plus" in Kaby Lake? and I already have that? cool....
 
Dog
Bearing in mind, that 940M is 35w + a quad-core 47w CPU whereas the Iris (Plus) is sharing 15w between CPU and GPU :-/
@allquixotic Dunno about the 650 (not released yet AFAIK) but the 540 Iris and 640 Iris Plus are identical
 
@djsmiley2k more or less that's the idea
bookwise nostarch.com/pythoncrashcourse seems nice
 
I tried python the hard way
errr
 
1:40 PM
since apparently there's a "teach your kids to code" and no "teach your dog to code"
@djsmiley2k yeah, picked this up on a humble bundle
 
Dog
I'd imagine the Iris Plus 650 is basically identical to the Iris 550 too, since the 540 and 550 are identical just with different TDPs.
 
and python the hard way is basically python 2 and never moving off
and python 3's kinda what I am used to
 
yeah
 
Dog
Either way, it's a heck of a lot more efficient than these "dedicated" 9xx series Maxwell parts people keep shoving into Kaby lake laptops for the marketing kudos
 
1:42 PM
errrm
 
@DavidPostill scary if a dog could code better than most kids.
 
Dog
Most kids can't code
Now if only Sony errr Vaio updated their Z Flip to have Thunderbolt...
 
most people don't need to know how to code ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek the world as it ideally should be.
 
(however, its probably a useful skill to be able to throw together basic things so... meh)
 
Dog
1:46 PM
@allquixotic Yeah but that lacks a touchscreen/flip. The only other machine I know of that has it is the Vaio Z flip which lacks Thunderbolt instead
So @Bob, any plans to upgrade to Nougat?
 
Bob
@Dog Yea, but I'm still on old-Marshmallow :P
maybe when I have more time
 
2:07 PM
Could we not talk about murdering people?
5
The world's gone a little mad
but there's probably at least some rationality there somewhere underneath.
 
Dog
@JourneymanGeek Not helped by dogs and cats taking over the internet.
 
also, ugh, politics.
@Dog oddly enough, there's only been 2-3 people unhappy with me as your glorious canine overlord ;p
 
Dog
!!s/canine/feline/
 
@Dog @Dog oddly enough, there's only been 2-3 people unhappy with me as your glorious feline overlord ;p (source)
 
2:25 PM
nothing glorious about felines.
 
@JourneymanGeek lol
Strange felines :)
 
> Great and glorious alleged canine overlord.
 
2:50 PM
hmmm
i've not yet maanged to just save out this xls as a csv
surely this isn't right
I can do it in excel, maunally, in like 3 seconds
ffs the script timed out XD
 
Bob
3:02 PM
65
Q: How do I overcome my fear of speaking with an accent when communicating with a native English speaker?

AmeliaI am a fluent English speaker from Singapore, and I am required to communicate with clients from the UK and US. I often feel inferior when speaking to them because of their accent and how perfectly they enunciate their words. I feel ashamed of the way I speak with this accent, although it is no...

@JourneymanGeek ^
 
we tend to find it cute and endearing
trust me they don't want me speaking their language with a manc accent
 
As a singaporean... embrace your accent. There's nothing worse than a fake ang moh accent, unless you sound like an ah-lian all the time. — Journeyman Geek yesterday
@Burgi I don't sound 'typically' singaporean
 
3:19 PM
 
dem life goals
ffs
constantly running outta mem just loading this worksheet D:
Ohhhhhh I think i booboo'd
what I thought was setting the size 'before' using the temp space, is actually setting the size OF the temp space
/me hopes for no more memory errors
well it hasn't died yet, success is growing.
 
3:40 PM
still taking litterally hours to process. this isn't right
 

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