Root Access

1:02 PM

I've seen the stories of massive property damage (entire houses have been burned down) and serious injuries resulting from battery fires. That's why I have to put it out there. Better safe than sorry.

Hennes

I guess that means LiPo batteries are a potential danger for children to.
lets ban all of them! Think if the children!

Bob

@bwDraco eh, usually the bigger rc lipos

which also don't have all the safeties

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes the bumped question thing happens to me a lot

@Bob also usually slapped together ?

Bob

that too :P

Hennes

Same here. I should be used to that by now.

Psycogeek

1:12 PM

too true larger RC li-poly dont have anything but the cells tied together with amp wiring, highly dependant on the charger, and totally absent of low cutoff, or high cutoffs on the pack itself.

Journeyman Geek

And heat shrink. Lots of heat shrink.

Psycogeek

a phone battery should have 3 protections, unless its from china :-)

Hennes

Oh, brilliant.. — Ahmed Metwally 3 mins ago

I am using wirelss and it is slow. I also have wired.
me: then used wired.
Oh, brilliant. :)

On the same level as the LiPo joke:
Pokemon go is dangerous. Children go outside. They could be moilested when outside.
(Sadly not a joke, real petition to ban it)

Psycogeek

1:41 PM

the government would rather keep them in thier cages, playing on the glowing buzy box.

(I dont even treat my dog like that :-)

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes straitstimes.com/forum/letters-in-print/…

> And in this age of lone-wolf terrorism, an extremist could easily buy a "Lure" to draw players into a low-security zone before launching a mass-casualty attack.

That Brazilian Guy

@Hennes Children are alive. When they are alive they can be molested. We have to do something about this!

Hennes

Oh, we can purchase lures. Now who do I hate?

Psycogeek

so the game has children as microtransactions?

Hennes

I guess the big question is: How do I weaponise pokemon?

Psycogeek

1:44 PM

Android GPS drones

Journeyman Geek

> a person could harass someone else by placing a Lure near the victim's home or workplace to attract disruptive crowds.

I'm like whaaaaaat?

That Brazilian Guy

I could harass someone by writing their phone number on a bathroom stall. Let's ban phones!

Hennes

Let ban bathrooms. That way people never will leave their homes.

That Brazilian Guy

bwDraco

2:02 PM

welp. The battery question has hit HNQ.

Chances are good I'll repcap today...

@JourneymanGeek I'm pretty sure Niantic has been through similar issues with Ingress...

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco this person is excessively paranoid.

bwDraco

However, Ingress is nowhere near as popular as Pokémon GO and so some new issues are cropping up.

Journeyman Geek

I'm at 125 today over 2 questions.

bwDraco

lol

> This is important. Throwing potentially inflammable materials in regular trash is bad. Only you can stop fires

You clearly have a sense of humor and this is showing.

I just can't write good answers :(

...deleted.

Okay, answer restored. No reason to delete it.

I just happen to be bad at writing answers that actually entertain the audience. In aiming for absolute technical accuracy, my answers have a mechanical and overly technical tone to them. This really hurts more than it helps.

I'm still learning and I have every intention of mastering the soft skills you've mentioned needed to be a good community leader.

That Brazilian Guy

2:17 PM

@bwDraco You don't have to feel it compulsory to be funny

It's OK to be concise, precise and direct.

Relax ;p

bwDraco

Oct 14 '15 at 4:58, by DragonLord

However, there's probably thousands of points of untapped reputation simply because of my answer style.

Oct 14 '15 at 4:59, by Journeyman Geek

I write the answers I want to read

DavidPostill

@bwDraco None of my answers containing anything remotely funny, but I still have a very healthy reputation.

jokerdino

@ThatBrazilianGuy hey now

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino hey there

jokerdino

It's an ongoing research.

bwDraco

2:20 PM

I started my answer with an attention-grabbing "This is a fire hazard!" headline and a battery on fire.

jokerdino

meh, I don't want to poke fun.

DavidPostill

Hey, diddle, diddle,

bwDraco

I also used an H2 header, rather than my usual H3, because I felt safety was the highest priority.

jokerdino

Hmm

Why not use H1 header?

That Brazilian Guy

!! s/fun/people, because I'm a dino and my arms are tiny/

ChatBot John Cavil

2:21 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy meh, I don't want to poke people, because I'm a dino and my arms are tiny. (source)

DavidPostill

@bwDraco That doesn't make it a bad answer.

bwDraco

I felt H1 would look bad because it's usually too large.

jokerdino

bacon it

@ThatBrazilianGuy please~

DavidPostill

@bwDraco You have same number of votes as @JourneymanGeek at the moment

bwDraco

lol

That Brazilian Guy

2:23 PM

bwDraco

I'm not at all upset with my answer. I'm just jealous of JMG's sense of humor and skills.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco How could I pass up referring to smokey the bear? ;)

bwDraco

Again, I promised major changes and I'm working on them.

jokerdino

That one is straight outta a politician's mouth.

2

bwDraco

lol

Journeyman Geek

2:25 PM

@bwDraco I actually added that cause of the comments, cause I think folks thought I went into a lot of trouble to drop off the battery

That Brazilian Guy

@bwDraco I think we all are jealous of JMG.

Fluffy, witty, cutesy, loved by the ladies, and with the powers of a mod!

jokerdino

@ThatBrazilianGuy wait till you see his other half.

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianGuy You have to have someone to serve as a role model to have a clear path up...

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy Speak for yourself :) I don't do jealousy. Causes nothing but pain and heartache...

jokerdino

no regrats

Journeyman Geek

2:27 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy this is my mod face ;p

Rahul2001

@bwDraco sometimes I feel like that too

bwDraco

I've tried to be more casual in tone, and this is reflected in some of my newer answers.

jokerdino

>I immediately regret typing that out.

bwDraco

My answering philosophy is to deliver the information readers need as accurately and clearly as possible.

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino His "other half" as in... Miss JMG? Or as in... other meaning?

Because I'm not looking forward of meeting the bottom half of a schnauzer in any way >_<"

bwDraco

2:31 PM

Precise, thorough, and easy-to-understand writing. That's what I care about.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy I believe that's in jest, since I'm not aware of this person ;p

@bwDraco that has value in many cases - I just tend to wrap that in narrative cause it often makes it easier to read.

(same reason I try very hard to use short paragraphs, and fairly minimalist formatting outside bold/italic)

bwDraco

I've always tried not to clump text together. A few of my older answers have long paragraphs; this has been addressed in my current answering style.

Wall-of-text answers are the fastest way to get readers to lose track of what they're reading.

This was a major motivation behind my current answering style.

I also try to use more images especially in longer answers to keep readers engaged.

That Brazilian Guy

@bwDraco Oh boy. It reminds me of a friend (and now customer) of mine. He runs a business and sends out a newsletter by email. The newsletter is usually one or zero photos and a long, long wall of text about a few different subjects without clear separation.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy I have trouble reading WOTs.

Dyslexia + block reading I guess

That Brazilian Guy

I once was at a bar table with common friends and the subject arised of who reads his newsletter. Each and every person said "I actually don't".

jokerdino

2:38 PM

me too

bwDraco

Oct 14 '15 at 5:07, by DragonLord

I made the change precisely because answers like this, as detailed as they may be, are walls of text that are difficult to read.

Dec 19 '14 at 8:36, by DragonLord

I promise: No more walls of text!

ROTFL as I looked back.

jokerdino

Why?

That Brazilian Guy

The guy is my age and a heavy luddist. He runs a business and once said: "social media is bullshit".

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy social media is bullshit ;p

That Brazilian Guy

His facebook page is used to tell people to call his business number.

@JourneymanGeek He meant it as "there's no way social media can help my business sell more / be more known / etc"

Journeyman Geek

2:40 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy One of my favourite hardware stores only has a facebook page...

and never mentioned that they moved.

That Brazilian Guy

I agree it is 99.9% bullshit. The soul of social media is those emails our aunts and granmas used to mass send....

Journeyman Geek

granted, the building they were in being redeveloped was a giveaway...

@ThatBrazilianGuy precisely

jokerdino

I use it for purposes.

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianGuy This is stupid. Social media must not be overlooked as a business tool. Just setting up a Twitter account for your business can make a big difference. It gives people an easy way to connect with you and your products.

That Brazilian Guy

However, when it's MASSIVELY used by 99% of the population, some interesting scenarios arise.

You can gauge politics, see different insights from a point of view different than the news on TV, find niches of alternative culture, etc etc

Although the bubble effect is strong, very strong

And I hate, hate, hate, hate how everyone in Brazil seems to have given up on email for informing stuff

Let's all just use a social network that might or might not show our information to an always smaller fraction of our userbase!

>_<

Journeyman Geek

2:44 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy I use it as a secondary feed reader ._.

for places not cool enough to have RSS

oh, and a main account where I post stuff... like every year so no one assumes I'm dead.

That Brazilian Guy

I don't have the patience to keep up with checking fb dozens of times a day, but OTOH, I'm fed up when I miss some interesting stuff because it was hidden in a sea of expired notifications.

So I'm thinking on hooking it up on inoreader

I tried theolreader but don't remember why I didn't like it, for this specific purpose

TBH, my usage of RSS diminished A LOT over the years.

Journeyman Geek

is that a inoreader thing or does FB have feeds for your feeds?

@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm an addict ;p

That Brazilian Guy

But I'm so fed up with not having control of my streams, I think I'll get back tto it

Journeyman Geek

I run my own TTRSS instance after The Old Reader caught fire

bwDraco

Added this text:

> (You probably remember from chemistry class that oxygen is one part of the fire triangle, so guess what happens if the cell vents and there's a spark or open flame nearby...)

Journeyman Geek

2:47 PM

(They got flooded with google reader refugees, and basically cut off all their users at short notice)

@ThatBrazilianGuy the only issue I have with ttrss is I can't find a desktop client I like with integration

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek It used to. I'm not finding it anymore =/

Bob

@bwDraco I still maintain that the primary reason for the big bursts of flame is from the volatile solvents, btw. The oxygen definitely helps with ignition, especially before breach, but the actual burning is mostly from the solvents. (that little bit of extra oxygen? doesn't effect the external environment all that much)

bwDraco

The fuel is the battery itself.

Bob

the oxygen just lets it ignite even without a breach

bwDraco

If you have a spark, open flame, or other heat source nearby, a fire will likely result.

This is why a lithium-ion battery can just burn up on its own in elevated temperatures.

It goes into thermal runaway, starts to generate oxygen, and catches fire.

That Brazilian Guy

2:55 PM

@JourneymanGeek There used to be an RSS link on facebook.com/notifications but they turned it off, it seems =/

Bob

you're correct in that it produces O (as I learned, so thanks :P) but I don't think it's the primary concern here

*shrug*

That Brazilian Guy

There's fbrss.com but I never tried it

Bob

*goes back to hunting for games*

bwDraco

A Li-ion battery shouldn't be exposed to temperatures above 60-70 °C.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Toxic gases (HF, PF 6 ) will be formed if cells or battery are involved in a fire. Cells or battery
may flame or leak potentially hazardous organic vapors if exposed to excessive heat, fire or
over-voltage conditions. Damaged or opened cells or batteries may result in rapid heat and
the release of flammable vapors.

Bob

3:01 PM

@JourneymanGeek Yup, HF is a somewhat-obscure risk

burns your lungs

and your eyes

and your skin

and if enough gets into your bloodstream it leeches calcium out of your bones which then travels to your heart and kills you

jokerdino

at which point do I die?

Bob

Aug 21 '15 at 18:08, by Bob

@DragonLord From what I can find, yes, li-ion can generate (some amount of) HF in the worst case.

@jokerdino somewhere around "kills you"

Journeyman Geek

mkbattery.com/documents/…

jokerdino

@Bob between kills and you?

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino if you're lucky, after you pass out from the pain

Bob

3:03 PM

the actual amounts from burning batteries are more likely to just (irreparably) burn your lungs, if bad happens

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, salt water is a terrible idea

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek that's an acceptable deal

Journeyman Geek

If you're not after you wished it would kill you already.

jokerdino

don't think it would be in the top 10 ways of dying..

Journeyman Geek

My number one is "painlessly, of old age, in my sleep"

2

I'll never live to regret it.

jokerdino

3:07 PM

any one of those?

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino all of those

jokerdino

tough bargain

Journeyman Geek

though I'll take the first and third. Or at least the first.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek first?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Painlessly is nice.

That Brazilian Guy

3:10 PM

@JourneymanGeek I wanna die as my granpa: "painlessly, of old age, in my sleep". Not in pain, as the passengers of the bus he was driving. ;p

Nick

@Bob ...well, atleast I know what my nightmare tonight is going to be.

Journeyman Geek

Its pretty hard to die painfully in your sleep tho

Bob

> Symptoms of HF exposure include irritation of the eyes, skin, nose, and throat, eye and skin burns, rhinitis, bronchitis, pulmonary edema (fluid buildup in the lungs), and bone damage. Once absorbed into blood through the skin, it reacts with blood calcium and may cause cardiac arrest.

jokerdino

Stop.

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

2

Nick

3:11 PM

@JourneymanGeek Depends on what you're dreaming, donit?

Bob

Perfect timing, Cavil. As always.

jokerdino

@ChatBotJohnCavil goddamn you thing.

Journeyman Geek

quite.

jokerdino

This and the clippy annoys me a lot.

Nick

@Bob Beautiful -_-

@jokerdino The world is annoying, get used to it.

Canadian Luke

3:12 PM

My server crashed hard :(

jokerdino

@Nick why should I?

Bob

@CanadianLuke As opposed to crashing softly?

Nick

@jokerdino good question. I don't have the answer.

Canadian Luke

I'm pretty sure the boot drive is toast... And my last backup was over a month ago :-(

Journeyman Geek

@Bob gently fluttering down, like a flaming thermonuclear snowflake..

Canadian Luke

3:14 PM

I was running it off a USB3 drive for almost 5 full years

So, my websites and configurations are gone. Everything else is still there though. Silver lining...?

Nick

@ChatBotJohnCavil I suspect from the randomness of your timing that you don't actually know when Hammertime really is.

Bob

> This series ventures into some of the darkest thematic territory you’ll ever see, and when the final curtain closes, you’ll likely need a forklift to pick your jaw up off the floor.

Journeyman Geek

@Nick on the contrary, there's no stopping him.

halt

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERZEIT!

Canadian Luke

stop

ChatBot John Cavil

3:19 PM

HAMMERTIME!

Canadian Luke

I thought we needed the !! for him

Bob

sistite

ChatBot John Cavil

MALLEUS TEMPUS!

jokerdino

translate: malleus tempus

Journeyman Geek

Not for those commands.

ChatBot John Cavil

3:20 PM

@jokerdino That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Canadian Luke

arret

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino mallet period!

jokerdino

translate: sistite

(from English) sistite

ChatBot John Cavil

MALLEUS TEMPUS!

Nick

@CanadianLuke He's evolved. One day he'll be as stout as Asimov's Bicentennial man.

Bob

3:21 PM

@JourneymanGeek they're not commands, they're listeners

Journeyman Geek

You callin him fat?

Canadian Luke

arretez

Bob

@ChatBotJohnCavil wait how did he repeat that twice without chat.SE stopping him o.O

jokerdino

translate: stop

(from English) stop

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

Canadian Luke

3:22 PM

It doesn't understand French!

stahp

HAMMAHTIME!

... Show off

translate es: stop

(from English) parada

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

Nick

3:22 PM

@JourneymanGeek No, right now, he's so thin, he's virtual.

no speaky espanol?

translate jp: stop

HAMMERTIME!

translate jap: stop

translate ja: stop

translate zh: stop

Canadian Luke

3:23 PM

translate c++: stop

Journeyman Geek

shouldn't we be abusing bots in BO?

move them to there

>_>

translate fr: stop

@JourneymanGeek well, I'm more abusing the translation thing? :P

jokerdino

3:23 PM

(from English) arrêter

Journeyman Geek

Who voted and... Oh...

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

Bob

actually I have no idea how the translation thing works

translate fr: test

...addon?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Neither do I. Its a SEchat builtin tho

jokerdino

no, it's a mod feature

Nick

3:24 PM

@ChatBotJohnCavil Why won't you stop? did I start this?

Bob

oh.

Journeyman Geek

I thought it only worked in the seekrit mod rooms.

jokerdino

who knows

does wiki: work for you @bob?

Bob

Blah

Blah, Blah Blah or Blah Blah Blah may refer to: == Music == Blah Blah Blah (Iggy Pop album), 1986 (or its title song, see below) Blah Blah Blah (Blahzay Blahzay album), 1996 Blah Blah (album), a 2006 EP and song by Lady Sovereign Blah...Blah...Blah...Love Songs for the New Millennium, a 2004 album by Scum of the Earth "Blah Blah Blah" (Gershwin song), 1931 "Blah Blah Blah" (Kesha song), 2010 "Blah Blah Blah" by Nicola Paone, 1959 "Blah Blah Blah", 1986 song by Iggy Pop "Blah Blah Blah" Longpigs B-side 1996 "Blah Blah Blah" by Heinz Erhardt == Other media == Bla Bla, a 2011 National Film Board of...

jokerdino

Fox

Foxes are small-to-medium-sized, omnivorous mammals belonging to several genera of the family Canidae. Foxes are slightly smaller than a medium-size domestic dog, with a flattened skull, upright triangular ears, a pointed, slightly upturned snout, and a long bushy tail (or brush). Twelve species belong to the monophyletic group of Vulpes genus of "true foxes". Approximately another 25 current or extinct species are always or sometimes called foxes; these foxes are either part of the paraphyletic group of the South American foxes, or of the outlying group, which consists of bat-eared fox, gray fox...

Journeyman Geek

3:25 PM

Shog knows. Shog knows what lint lurks in the pokets of men.

Bob

huh, so it does

so much for !!wiki :P

google: blah

Journeyman Geek

Westie

Westie, or Westy may refer to: West Highland White Terrier, a breed of dog Westfield Sportscars Westie (person) or Westy, someone who comes from the Western suburbs of Auckland, New Zealand or Sydney, Australia "Westy Gals", a single by Auckland singer Jan Hellriegel The Westies, an Irish American gang from New York City, United States The Westies, an Irish gang from Blanchardstown in Dublin, Ireland Westy, a suburban district in Warrington, England Rock of the Westies, an album by Elton John West Adelaide Football Club, an Australian rules football club from Adelaide, South Australia Westie,...

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek that I am not sure. I accidentally ran translate in a normal room and realized it works.

Bob confirmed it's a mod diddly.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob alas, no google: blahing

@jokerdino ah. close enough

jokerdino

never really had to use translate before though.

Bob

3:28 PM

dammit

I can't find any games I want to play :(

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Why are you looking up Westie?

Bob

> Saints Row IV Game of the Century Upgrade Pack

Only SR would do that.

Canadian Luke

@Bob play "Fix Luke's Server"! It's going to be fun!

Bob

@CanadianLuke does defenestration count?

Canadian Luke

??

Journeyman Geek

3:30 PM

@FaheemMitha cause I can never spell schnauzer

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Oh. The dog?

Journeyman Geek

lol

ya

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob Defenestration should be an official sport for the Olympics

Nick

@ThatBrazilianGuy Nice weather we're having.

That Brazilian Guy

@Nick Huh?

@Nick Huh pt.2

Faheem Mitha

3:33 PM

@JourneymanGeek The term Westie to me mostly mean someone who dances West Coast Swing.

Journeyman Geek

Defenestrations of Prague

The Defenestrations of Prague (Czech: Pražská defenestrace, German: Prager Fenstersturz, Latin: Defenestratio Pragensis) were two incidents in the history of Bohemia in which multiple people were defenestrated (i.e., thrown out a window). The first occurred in 1419, and the second in 1618, although the term "Defenestration of Prague" more commonly refers to the second. Each helped to trigger prolonged conflict, within Bohemia and beyond. == First Defenestration of Prague == The First Defenestration of Prague involved the killing of seven members of the city council by a crowd of radical Czech...

@FaheemMitha also, the third coolest kinda dog ;p

well maybe second.

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek If you say so.

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek I know what defenestration means, I just don't know what it's got to do with penguins or the weather

Journeyman Geek

there's no penguins in prague ._.

2

That Brazilian Guy

ahh

So that's why Prague never won any defenestration medal