Root Access

Bob

5:00 PM

good to know

I thought it was just a generic example

allquixotic

the sample sentences are horrible

and entirely unhelpful

qasdfdsaq

Lol, isn't it cheating to discuss the answers in chat?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq it's pretty meh... nothing said here has changed an answer

just bringing attention to some of the more ambiguous ones

>
miniature:
It is a miniature.
a small line to join letters in handwriting
an instrument for looking at very small objects
a very small thing of its kind
a very small living creature

Again with the ambiguousness. Though I'd pick the more generic one for the hell of it.

qasdfdsaq

> a very small thing of its kind

IMO that wasn't very ambiguous at all

Bob

@qasdfdsaq A very small living creature also technically works

qasdfdsaq

5:03 PM

@Bob Only if followed by living creature

Bob

Hm... true, that's more typical.

qasdfdsaq

Never seen an animal described as "miniature" in isolation, usually only as a miniatureversion of some larger category

Most of the answers I lean towards which one is it definitely rather than which could it be

Bob

Still. "Is that a dachshund?" "It's a miniature" ... technically an incomplete sentence with an implied noun after.

@qasdfdsaq Yea, that's why I picked the other one -_-

qasdfdsaq

But the Microphone one, wth

allquixotic

hehehehehehehe. micro-phone. get it? LOL

I love when the answers are hilarious puns

Bob

5:06 PM

>
dinosaur:
The children were pretending to be dinosaurs.
large creatures with wings that breathe fire
very small creatures with human form but with wings
robbers who work at sea
animals that lived an extremely long time ago

> very small creatures with human form but with wings

???

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic Nah, there's just a mandatory warranty period during which the manufacturer must replace an item if it breaks by itself :(

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Lol

A miniature dinosaur? :-P

Bob

oh. gauche. ok, I don't know that one :\

hessian wut

qasdfdsaq

Mothman - A winged creature in the shape of a man with hypnotic red eyes sighted in West Virginia.

lol

Bob

o.O

>
yoghurt:
This yoghurt is disgusting. => unhealthy, open sore

qasdfdsaq

5:10 PM

testyourvocab.com <== faster one and maybe easier

Bob

>
palette:
He lost his palette.
basket for carrying fish
young female companion
wish to eat food
artist's board for mixing paints

qasdfdsaq

Also spam-free and registration-free

Bob

ah the good ol' "sounds similar"

Faheem Mitha

I'm missing context as usual. What's all this about?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Same ones I had in a different order I think

@FaheemMitha Vocabulary test

Faheem Mitha

5:11 PM

@qasdfdsaq Yes, I sort of gathered that.

qasdfdsaq

34 mins ago, by qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic http://my.vocabularysize.com/

Faheem Mitha

Seems even less on topic here than average, though.

@qasdfdsaq ok

qasdfdsaq

Lol

Blame DavidPostill for bringing it up

He doesn't like it when you do that though

Faheem Mitha

People focus too much on vocabulary. It's not that important.

There are silly tests which reward people for knowing obscure words. Obscure words are also usually useless. Unless they're technical words, I suppose.

qasdfdsaq

46 mins ago, by DavidPostill

@FaheemMitha Of course not every native English speaker uses a large vocabulary. "Total vocabulary size varies greatly from person to person, but people typically use about 5,000 words in their speech and about twice that many in their writing. A college-educated speaker of English could have a vocabulary as large as 80,000 words. "

Mention something we can measure ourselves by and everyone gets all competitvie

Faheem Mitha

5:13 PM

Cooperation is better than competition.

qasdfdsaq

That's why we're all discussing the questions in chat :-P

@FaheemMitha pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism!

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq You just made that up.

qasdfdsaq

spectrophotofluorometrically!

Faheem Mitha

Ditto.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha oxforddictionaries.com/words/what-is-the-longest-english-word

Funny enough I understand most of those, most of them are biomedical terms

In fact all of them are biomedical terms except antidisestablismentarianism

Faheem Mitha

5:15 PM

@qasdfdsaq That's the German approach to word-building.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha It's the scientific approach to word building :-P

Faheem Mitha

Also known as the trash-compacter approach.

@qasdfdsaq It's a sucky approach, that's what it is.

qasdfdsaq

N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine!

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Are you a biomedical person, then?

qasdfdsaq

It's clear, unambiguous, easy to understand, and universal across languages.

Bob

5:16 PM

@qasdfdsaq You can break most of them down pretty easily.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha I have a degree in it, I don't actually work in it

Bob

>
mystique:
He has lost his mystique.
the hair on his top lip
his healthy body
the secret way he makes other people think he has special power or skill
the woman who has been his lover while he is married to someone else

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Oh.

qasdfdsaq

Decided to jump into computational biology instead and then into just pure computational computationology

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Um. Are you a programmer then?

qasdfdsaq

5:17 PM

@FaheemMitha No, I just watch programmers who don't know what they're doing and laugh at them.

Then secretly fix their code when they've gone home

Bob

@qasdfdsaq heh. a friend of mine is currently doing a software eng course with a minor in biomed

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Hmm. That's an interesting job description.

qasdfdsaq

And then defend myself to the boss when he questions why I was laughing at customers.

Faheem Mitha

Do they know you are laughing at them?

qasdfdsaq

Not unless they frequent this chat room I suspect

When I was younger I would laugh at them face to face. And they would bring me cake in return. Ah the good old days...

Faheem Mitha

5:19 PM

@qasdfdsaq I like cake. But I've never heard of that method of getting it before.

Chocolate cake, for preference.

Now I'm wondering what your job description is.

qasdfdsaq

Young women - which made up most of the customers - seem to use cake as the universal gift for everything.

Followed closely by wine

Faheem Mitha

I've spent time around biomedical people. But I have no formal qualifications in the area.

@qasdfdsaq Customers? What kind of customers?

Bob

butler => man servant

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha You should get one. It's great for looking at the expression on people's faces when you wave a biological degree at them when they ask "How did you learn so much about computers?"

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq I don't have any computer qualifications either.

qasdfdsaq

5:22 PM

@FaheemMitha People who want their computers fixed

Faheem Mitha

And I'm never going back to school again. Not if I live to be 100.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha Neither do I

@FaheemMitha Then just get one of those fraudulent cash-for-honours instant online degrees.

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Ah. Hmm. I kind of thought people respond like in the IT Crowd.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha Me or them?

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Clearly you are full of ideas.

@qasdfdsaq Oh, the customers.

qasdfdsaq

5:23 PM

@FaheemMitha Ideas are how I got this job

Faheem Mitha

I'm assuming you are familiar with the IT Crowd. If you aren't you should be.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha In an office environment, they can be.

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq That wasn't your environment, then?

qasdfdsaq

These were students, and unlike employees they don't expect anything of you and treat any help you give them as a humongous favor.

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Oh, I see. That's nice. Nobody has ever given me cake for helping me with their computers. Clearly I've spent my life in all the wrong places.

qasdfdsaq

5:25 PM

Rather than the "This is all your fault, fix this right now ~~yesterday~~, while I'm out having a fag" attitude some "entitled" staff members can have

Bob

@qasdfdsaq So much for not wanting any info.

> Please tell us about yourself...
About you...
Birth month:
Birth year:
Gender:
About your language...
Native language:
Have you ever visited an English-speaking country?
Yes
No
Prefer not to say

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Indeed.

@Bob What's wrong with making stuff up?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob No personal info. You can just about shove anything in the box, but it's nice for general stats

Doesn't ask for name, email, full DoB, Facebook account, etc.

Just anonymous stats

Bob

Yea, they have prefer not to say entries

But they're also all marked required :P

> You know at least 21,900 English word families!

qasdfdsaq

You are required to prefer not to say?

Dang, that's 1,900 more than me

Feb 27 at 22:43, by qasdfdsaq

I suspect this might prove what I've aways suspected but never proved: Bob might be smarter than me.

Faheem Mitha

5:27 PM

The IT Crowd is really very funny. If anyone here hasn't watched it, you should.

And it's very short. Which is also good.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha These days I'm just the "Have you tried turning it off and back on again" guy.

allquixotic

@FaheemMitha I watch it every day. It's called coming into RA

Bob

I'm sure it's just the inherent randomness.

Now on to the next test!

Faheem Mitha

@allquixotic RA?

allquixotic

@FaheemMitha Root Access...

Faheem Mitha

5:28 PM

@qasdfdsaq In Debian we're kind of anti-turning it off and on again.

qasdfdsaq

testyourvocab.com <== that one's also easy to cheat on

Faheem Mitha

@allquixotic Oh, here.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha In my last job I got insulted for suggesting it (In-house developed Linux infrastructure)

Bob

oh god. the other one has a giant list of checkboxes

qasdfdsaq

I wonder what happens if I just tick everything

Faheem Mitha

5:28 PM

No, I think Moss and Roy and Jen are funnier. No disrespect intended to the denizens of RA.

Bob

this is where sentences would help

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq For suggesting what?

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha Turning it off and back on again

Faheem Mitha

Of course the IT Crowd is scripted. Unlike RA.

qasdfdsaq

"This is linux, we don't reboot things, we fix them"

Faheem Mitha

5:29 PM

@qasdfdsaq Ah, yes. That sounds like us Unix folks.

We're good at tech. But we can be prickly.

qasdfdsaq

And then they taught me all sorts of advanced kernel debugging voodoo that I've since forgotten

Faheem Mitha

Reboot is considered to be tantamount to admitting you don't know what is going on.

Bob

> bibulous
malapropism
tricorn
tenebrous
braggadocio
bruit
embonpoint
pabulum
pother
valetudinarian
cenacle
legerdemain
cantle
estivation
regnant
terpsichorean
clerisy
deracinate
fuliginous
oneiromancy
tatterdemalion
williwaw
caitiff
funambulist
hypnopompic
opsimath
pule
sparge

O_O

Canadian Luke

@FaheemMitha Stop breaking the fourth wall!

Bob

well, at least I know one of them... thank you xkcd! :P

Faheem Mitha

5:30 PM

@CanadianLuke Hmm? What?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob If you tick everything you get 45,000

Canadian Luke

@FaheemMitha This message...

qasdfdsaq

> Thanks for taking the test! Based on participations so far, we've already got some decent statistics. Most native English adult speakers who have taken the test fall in the range 20,000–35,000 words. Click here for a full breakdown by age (opens in new tab/window).

And for foreign learners of English, we've found that the most common vocabulary size is from 2,500–9,000 words. Click here for the full distribution (opens in new tab/window).

However, we still need more data for complete analysis by age or education level, especially for participants under 15.

Faheem Mitha

@Bob Are anyone of those words actually useful?

Bob

> Your total vocabulary size is estimated to be:
26,700
words

Faheem Mitha

5:31 PM

@CanadianLuke Oh, I see.

qasdfdsaq

Huh guess I'm not so smart after all. The Facebook test said I was smarter than everyone else

Faheem Mitha

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Lol! 1,700 more than me this time.

Bob

Well, at least that's consistent...

Blame xkcd :P

was probably one word difference

!!xkcd portmanteau

ChatBot John Cavil

The article has twenty-three citations, one of which is an obscure manuscript from the 1490's and the other twenty-two are arguments on LanguageLog.

Faheem Mitha

5:32 PM

Vocab tests don't prove much of anything, imo.

Like most tests, really.

Bob

It shows exposure to the language.

My problem is, I know words but I'm not goot [<== case in point] at putting words together.

qasdfdsaq

It's easier to chat up women if a) you sound smart and b) you have 30,000 alternative phrases for "I'd hit that" that you won't get slapped for

Bob

And also not much good at giving definitions from scratch, despite knowing what they mean (and being able to understand the word when used).

qasdfdsaq

@Bob I'm going to have to change my catchphrase to "Listen to Bob. Bob knows woorrrrrdddsss!"

Bob

:(

Faheem Mitha

5:35 PM

@Bob I guess.

qasdfdsaq

I dunno, is it worse than "Listen to Bob, bob knows stuff"?

!!noidea

@qasdfdsaq I'd like some cake. Possibly also chocolate. Clearly I should find some computers to fix.

Bob

5:37 PM

@qasdfdsaq I think I added that one :P

!!info noidea

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob Command noidea, created by allquixotic on Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:58:19 GMT

Bob

Huh.

okthen

qasdfdsaq

!!learn noidea <>http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/I-Have-No-Idea-What-Im-Doing-Dog-16.j‌pg

ChatBot John Cavil

@qasdfdsaq Command noidea already exists

qasdfdsaq

Aha! It works!

The 5-minute cut-off that is

Bob

5:38 PM

lol

!!export

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob Exported to gist, id: c6465ac20e0e13393dcd viewable at gist.github.com/c6465ac20e0e13393dcd

Bob

Don't mind me. Just taking a backup.

crap it's almost 5am

qasdfdsaq

Do you not have a day job? Or just something that lets you stay up to 5am every night

Faheem Mitha

@Bob You're AU, right? Not many people are ahead of me.

qasdfdsaq

Bob

5:40 PM

@FaheemMitha Ya.

@qasdfdsaq I do. It's also ~~Friday night~~ Saturday morning.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Oh. True.

Ah shit, it's nearly 6pm, I was meant to book driving lessons today

Bob

Occasionally end up staying up overnight on weekdays though.

That usually leads to a pretty terrible day after.

qasdfdsaq

Ooh transparent oneboxing

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Enough already.

qasdfdsaq

How to be a "Christian Instagram Girl"

►

Faheem Mitha

5:48 PM

@qasdfdsaq Thanks for that.

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha You're welcome. There's more where that came from.

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq I'm sure there is. A net full of them.

Bob

Oh, poor things are trapped in a net? :(

Faheem Mitha

@Bob No, they are the net.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Christian Instagram Girls.

Bob

5:56 PM

o.O

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Now I want a Christian Girl Instagram account too.

bwDraco

If you missed it, I'd like you to read my open letter here.

qasdfdsaq

She actually has quite an interesting vlog.

Not that I agree with any of her views or anything, but it's interesting to see perspectives of the kinds of people I rarely hang out with in IRL life.

Faheem Mitha

I don't know what Instagram is, though.

qasdfdsaq

You've got to be kidding me

Faheem Mitha

6:01 PM

@qasdfdsaq Nope.

qasdfdsaq

Have you at least heard of it?

Bob

I'm gonna try to get some sleep. ~~'night~~ 'morning

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq Sure.

@Bob Have a good night.

qasdfdsaq

Night Bob

Floof well.

Bob

floof

Faheem Mitha

6:05 PM

Well, I can see you guys are very multimedia oriented.

Mokubai

bwDraco

6:44 PM

roar

With rising demand for faster, more powerful devices that still sip battery, I'm seeing some significant trends for processor design.

Thermal solutions are really hard to design in thin devices, so it seems the emphasis these days is to deliver bursts of performance during day-to-day use to improve responsiveness.

There's this concept called "race to idle" as well, where you ramp up the CPU to complete a particular task as quickly as possible and drop back to idle once it's done to save power.

Mokubai

@bwDraco That's been a thing for quite a while now, laptops and desktops have been using that principle with Turbo Boost and equivalents for many years

bwDraco

The main issue is that these designs mean that thermal throttling comes into play under sustained workloads. While your everyday consumer is not going to notice because they only do things that put short bursts of load on the system, it does impact us power users who tend to need more continuous performance.

Your thoughts? I'm not a fan of this trend, but it's the price you pay for thinner, smaller devices.

I've honestly had enough of carrying my heavy-as-hell gaming laptop.

Mokubai

@bwDraco My opinion? Get the right tool for the right job. Big iron for heavy computation, slow and portable for light duty, do the right task on the right machine. It's what we invented remote desktops for.

My own kit: Desktop for gaming and media, laptop for some more mobile but moderate stuff, then screen fondle-slabs for staring at webpages and pretty pictures.

bwDraco

Feb 4 at 19:21, by bwDraco

RDP lets me keep my laptop at home when I don't need to take it with me.

Yup.

Mokubai

So why do you lug a heavy gaming laptop around?

bwDraco

6:55 PM

It was a replacement for my aging HP laptop. The only other mobile device available to me at the time was a 2012 Nexus 7.

Mokubai

A gaming laptop is for when you want to play games but don't want both a gaming rig and a laptop...

bwDraco

Our Internet connection was very, very slow and RDP was just not an option.

I don't have a desktop.

(or at least one that has current specs.)

Today, I rely on a Nexus 9 and Nexus 5X. I only bring in my laptop when I have a task to complete that requires a PC.

Everything is getting more centralized as consumers (including me!) become more mobile. Instead of carrying everything with us, we now carry light devices and remotely access the data we need over the Internet.

My home Internet connection is still slow, but it's been upgraded and is good enough for RDP.

Mokubai

7:30 PM

God damn stock Ubuntu is turd

2

I should've downloaded one of the not-crap derivatives, but considering KDE sucks since V3.4, and Gnome is generally rubbish that leave Xubuntu and Lubuntu...

Faheem Mitha

@Mokubai No, it leaves Debian. :-)

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha Debian is not a derivative of Ubuntu.

Faheem Mitha

@qasdfdsaq You are correct, sir.

Dave

@DavidPostill : Short file name format works WEBCAM~1 .. So does quote quote ""Webcam Media"" Not sure how to properly escape it the other way.

Mokubai

@FaheemMitha Sadly Debian is not on our approved version list

Faheem Mitha

7:40 PM

@Mokubai That is indeed sad. Who do you work for?

Mokubai

@FaheemMitha "A company" is about as specific as I can mention.

Faheem Mitha

@Mokubai Ooh, secret. Maybe the NSA. Or something even more nefarious.

allquixotic

@Mokubai just grab Cinnamon from the PPA

@FaheemMitha He can't work for the NSA; he's a UK Citizen

they'd never allow it. even though UK is a trusted ally

Faheem Mitha

@allquixotic Fine, M15 or something then.

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic That's what an NSA spy would say.

Faheem Mitha

7:42 PM

@Mokubai Ok, so that makes 4 UK people then.

allquixotic

Breaking Bad You Got Me

►

Mokubai

@allquixotic Cinnamon looks nice and minimal, I'll give it a shot. Cheers

Faheem Mitha

Sigh. I do wish people would stop posting video links. If they post 'em, I tend to click on them.

And I already have more than enough open tabs.

qasdfdsaq

Your lack of self control isn't our problem -_-

Mokubai

@allquixotic That idea is a bit weird though. They mandate a particular version of Linux and then ignore you silently converting it to some other flavour...

qasdfdsaq

7:47 PM

@Mokubai Any I.T. department that mandates Ubuntu is....

... never mind.

allquixotic

@Mokubai you're not "converting it to some other flavor"; you're just downloading a different desktop environment that happens to be the main attraction to using Linux Mint (except that Linux Mint deliberately suppresses critical Ubuntu security updates, so never actually use Mint)

Faheem Mitha

@Mokubai So, you are using Ubuntu part of the time?

allquixotic

you can't talk about converting Linux flavors like that; the OS by design is extremely malleable

I mean if you don't want to technically install something you could literally just have a prefix in your home directory with Cinnamon binaries and a script that sets some env vars, kills Unity and runs Cinnamon whenever you please

what is the definition of software being "converted" or "flavored"? it's all arbitrary, and the lines couldn't possibly be blurrier than on GNU/Linux

unless your work said "using a DE other than Unity will get you fired / disciplined / moved off the project", you have no reason to care

bwDraco

I suspect Mokubai is a government contractor (like allquixotic), but can't provide more details.

Security is paramount these days...

allquixotic

and when it comes to "mandating versions", unless your work expressly prohibits and requires that you run no executable code that isn't explicitly permitted by the company, they really have no grounds to complain

I mean you could write cat #!/bin/bash > fil; chmod +x fil; ./fil -- is that enough to get you fired? How about programs where one of their main features is to modify the behavior through code, like gstreamer, or OpenOffice's macros? Could you write an OpenOffice macro to launch a different DE? Would that be against policy?

qasdfdsaq

7:57 PM

Christian Modesty: The Double-Standard

►

allquixotic

Really these companies are just treating users like children and are so averse to things "breaking" and them having to fix it that they don't want to give you any flexibility

Faheem Mitha

Oh god. He's at it again.

allquixotic

but if they're going to do that, they need to have the gumption to issue you an optional "I know what the hell I'm doing" card that you can hand them that tells them to get out of your way

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha Yup

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Does that mean he can't be fired?

bwDraco

7:59 PM

@FaheemMitha I really don't know.

@FaheemMitha what?

allquixotic

lol, being a government contractor is in no way protection against being fired

qasdfdsaq

What's weird, is that some people who are complete religious devotees can seem like totally normal people 95% of the time. And then start spouting about how "my body is the temple of christ yadda yadda"

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Not you. The lady with the Christmas Hat.

Mokubai

@bwDraco I'm just a guy, ya know....

qasdfdsaq

@FaheemMitha Huh? Who? What? looks around blankly

Michael Frank

8:04 PM

@qasdfdsaq She gets modesty.

qasdfdsaq

I like my linux "seasoned to taste"

@allquixotic At that point I'd be handing in my notice.

@MichaelFrank She "gets" a lot of things, not just in that video but a lot of others. But the things I find myself agreeing with often seem to be for completely different reasons. And even then, it's bloody weird agreeing with someone who is basically the polar opposite of you.

It's like accidentally finding yourself agreeing with Donald Trump

allquixotic

!! s/Donald Trump/the things Donald Trump will say to win the election/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic It's like accidentally finding yourself agreeing with the things Donald Trump will say to win the election (source)

allquixotic

"Donald Trump" hasn't said anything since announcing his run for Presidency

bwDraco

What puzzles me is the number of people voting for Trump despite the ideas being not sound at all.

qasdfdsaq

8:08 PM

(Not that I know what that feels like)

Some people think Trump is a mole/sabateur who is deliberately been placed where he is to derail the Republican party.

bwDraco

I'm completely out of the loop to be honest when it comes to things like party lines and the differences between Republicans and Democrats.

Michael Frank

@allquixotic Of course not, all he's gonna do is wait until they can figure it all out.

Mokubai

On this side of the pond it's been sounding like he's your favourite (yet obscenely racist) grandfather and now today the news changed to basically saying "Oh f**k, he might actually win this! Quick, get him off the stage!"

qasdfdsaq

@Mokubai John Oliver described him as something similar...

John Oliver Destroys Donald Trump (Full Segment) February 28th 2016

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Mokubai

@qasdfdsaq John Oliver? Is he that cook that was moaning about school dinners?

qasdfdsaq

8:11 PM

@Mokubai No that's Jamie Oliver

John Oliver is an English/American TV presenter & comedian

John Oliver (comedian)

John William Oliver (born 23 April 1977) is an English comedian, political commentator, television host, and occasional actor. He is widely known in the United States for hosting HBO's Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and for his work on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. He co-hosts the satirical comedy podcast The Bugle and hosted John Oliver's New York Stand-Up Show on Comedy Central. He has worked extensively with Andy Zaltzman; their body of work includes hundreds of hours of satirical podcasts and radio broadcasts, including series such as Political Animal, The Department, and The Bugle....

Jamie Oliver

James Trevor "Jamie" Oliver, MBE (born 27 May 1975) is a British celebrity chef, restaurateur, and media personality known for his food-focused television shows, cookbooks and more recently his global campaign for better food education. == Early life == Oliver was born and raised in the village of Clavering. His parents ran a pub/restaurant, The Cricketers, where he practiced cooking in the kitchen with his parents. He was educated at Newport Free Grammar School. Oliver left school at age sixteen with two GCSE qualifications in Art and Geology and went on to attend Westminster Technical College...

Mokubai

Are you sure they're not the same, the top dude looks like the bottom one got a haircut and a suit...

qasdfdsaq

Are you suggesting something about English men?

Mokubai

Only that we all either look like that or James Bond (pick your favourite)

Michael Frank

@qasdfdsaq Wooooow.

2

tereško

8:27 PM

well ... if it ends up Trump VS Clinton, then USA is pretty much fucked

Mokubai

@allquixotic is there an easy way to adjust the Cinnamon "start" menu? It falls off the top of the screen on this low-res laptop

bwDraco

@tereško I'm not too sure about Clinton's problems

Again, I'm just out of the loop.

qasdfdsaq

Clinton's better than you know.

Also, dang that's the first time my computer's crashed this year. And I was just getting used to it being reliable again

bwDraco

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tereško

the problem will be kinda strange: the republicans, that did not support Trump, would vote against Hillary, while democrats that did not support Clinton will mostly just not vote at all

qasdfdsaq

8:33 PM

That doesn't make much sense...

If your choice is between Clinton and Trump, the only way to vote against Hilary is to vote Trump, which people who don't support trump surely aren't going to do

bwDraco

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@MichaelFrank ooooo

lol

allquixotic

9:03 PM

@Mokubai I don't know off the top of my head, but there probably is

Anonymous

9:50 PM

@MichaelFrank I don't like the inbox model

Anonymous

I'm fine with my current gmail

Anonymous

it's all getting tagged so I don't bother w/it

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