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qasdfdsaq

12:30 AM

I suppose if there's anywhere on SE with mroe KSP players than here, it's gonna be there.

Hennes

Yup

Anonymous

StackExchange needs KSP.SE

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Anonymous

propostal time.

bwDraco

gaming.stackexchange.com/tags/kerbal-space-program (294 questions)

The Bridge

General Arqade Chat. We tried to leave once, but the door lock...

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HackToHell

1:13 AM

@PatoSáinz +1

qasdfdsaq

1:27 AM

Oh man

I've managed to start a three-page discussion about rectums in the pod bay :-/

Anonymous

1:52 AM

@qasdfdsaq that's so qasdfdsaq

bwDraco

2:42 AM

hardwaresecrets.com/an-hdmi-cable-that-enhances-the-picture-2

Who didn't think of this before? An active HDMI cable that enhances video and upscales content before it gets to the display?

An HDMI cable with an image signal processor built into it. Wow.

Absolutely incredible what people can cram into a cable these days.

Active cables are not new—long cable runs, especially with the insane bandwidth requirements HDMI 2.0 has, can require them. However, I'm surprised someone actually put an ISP into an HDMI cable.

Dec 7 '15 at 19:45, by bwDraco

We're coming to a point where ordinary, low-cost copper cabling is going to be inadequate for cable runs of more than a few feet.

qasdfdsaq

5:23 AM

KSP 2016 03 05 01 57 36 02

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Well that's not what I was expecting :-/

Bob

@qasdfdsaq It loaded in 240p :S

qasdfdsaq

@Bob wow, and I thought my 360p was bad

Bob

@qasdfdsaq switched it to 1080. apparently yt gets confused if I load a freshly uploaded video

qasdfdsaq

Now I know YouTube often takes a while to reprocess the video at different resolutions but it should be done by now...

Bob

@qasdfdsaq ...did you put the engines right next to the fuel tank?

qasdfdsaq

5:29 AM

Ah. That's not too bad then. When first uploaded 360p is the only thing available for a little while

Bob

yea, that's normal

qasdfdsaq

@Bob no, I didn't do anything...

I mean the last test run the plane basically made it into orbit. Then all of a sudden, the rear engine was pointing the wrong way round.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Wrong way around?! O_O

I didn't even see that

qasdfdsaq

Gah, no 1080p option on mobile.

@Bob neither did I. But it isn't easily visible from that camera angle anyway, it's inside the tail.

What made me lol was the cockpit emerging out of the explosion going dead straight and balancing on one wheel.

Like, random explosion and rapid unscheduled disassembly aside, how the f is that even possible.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq gotta love simplified physics :P

bwDraco

5:38 AM

Really odd. The cockpit separated from the fuselage.

Is this a bug in the physics engine?

Okay. Do I buy myself a copy of KSP?

Bob

@bwDraco It's not necessarily a bug, per se.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were a bit of a tendency for stability built in.

And, again, simplified physics.

It's not practical to simulate real physics that accurately, so a whole lot of minor variables are probably discarded.

Michael Frank

11:11 AM

We've been hearing cars doing donuts the last few nights... My wife went for a drive and found them.

google.co.nz/maps/place/…

Valentin Tihomirov

12:24 PM

Which "empty space" character can I use so that forum post form did not strip them in the beginning of line?

qasdfdsaq

12:35 PM

@MichaelFrank O_o if you can see tire marks on Google maps it's clearly a spot that's been in use for a long time...

qasdfdsaq

1:29 PM

It's quiet in here today. Too quiet. Something's not right.

Journeyman Geek

2:29 PM

@qasdfdsaq prolly cause I'm not there. Leaving this town tommorrow night, back to the land of somewhat less shitty internet, and such

bwDraco

4:14 PM

roar

Perhaps I should start bounty-hunting like harrymc does.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Good afternoon. You got up late this morning?

bwDraco

4:33 PM

Yeah.

!!/wiki Sleep debt

ChatBot John Cavil

Sleep debt

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bwDraco

Have you read my open letter?

It's going to be an uphill battle at this point. I'm hoping that with the changes I've implemented (this would not have happened if I weren't suspended, so thanks a million, @JourneymanGeek), I can fast-track the behavioral changes needed to move forward.

I'm serious about behaving better.

From the open letter:

> A key reason Journeyman Geek has proven highly successful as a ♦moderator, despite being an "impulsive hothead" in his own words, is that he avoids making moderation decisions when angry. As such, I am also taking steps to ensure that I make all moderation decisions on a sound basis and without allowing my emotions to cloud my judgment.

This will be a cornerstone of my goals here. I'll never allow myself to act om impulse again.

Anonymous

@bwDraco ok, but start behaving normally.

bwDraco

4:48 PM

Wish me luck :p

Anonymous

Because this whole open letter ordeal is still too much over the top

5

qasdfdsaq

Is he at it again?

Bob

lol, the stars... that was fast

bwDraco

Alright. Let's move forward.

qasdfdsaq

Urgh. This isn't a therapy group. Sure we're not adverse to a bit of emotional support once in a while but all day every day belongs somewhere else.

bwDraco

4:49 PM

It was worth starring.

To quote the letter was the wrong call on my part.

I just wanted to call attention to it.

allquixotic

why am I addicted to Sakura Clicker @_@

qasdfdsaq

!!google sakura clicker

ChatBot John Cavil

@qasdfdsaq * Sakura Clicker on Steam ; Steam Community :: Sakura Clicker ; Sakura Clicker - a “WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE?” Game ...

Bob

...I wonder if that's SFW

allquixotic

it's not

Bob

4:51 PM

> Please enter your birth date to continue:

LOL

allquixotic

it's a "clicker" game

qasdfdsaq

It's on steam... Hmm

> Community content for this product may not be appropriate for all ages, or may not be appropriate for viewing at work.

Cancel

Continue

Bob

@qasdfdsaq there's a couple more 'mature' games on Steam

most of them being VNs

qasdfdsaq

The first image looked just like typical manga. Then the video started :-/

Yeah... NSFW

bwDraco

Now that this whole ordeal is out of the way, there's not much more to do except to just continue contributing normally.

qasdfdsaq

4:52 PM

Unless you work in a Japanese game studio

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Steam mutes audio by default.

The audio is very very much NSFW :P

allquixotic

the game "mechanics" basically consist of writing an AutoHotkey macro to auto-click as fast as possible anywhere on the screen to hurt/kill/vaporize these scantily-clad anime women dressed as various animals, and when they "die" (vaporize) you get coins, which increase in value exponentially after each "boss" you beat (boss = 2x normal hitpoints)

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Ah I didn't listen to the audio. I have my epic dance playlist on in the background

By background I mean at very high volume in the foreground.

allquixotic

then you "level up" your "companions" by clicking Buy buttons, and your own damage by clicking another Buy button

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Think sound effects ripped from a certain genre of 'anime'.

allquixotic

4:54 PM

I don't even like the game but I'm propelled forward to see how they refer to quantities of gold beyond quadrillion ("aa")

maybe it goes aa, ab, ac, ad, ... ba, bb, bc, ... zz?

do I win if I get to 999.99 zz?

Bob

Yes, that's your reason :P

allquixotic

or maybe I'll overflow the 64-bit integer

unless they use a 128-bit integer for it

in which case, I'm screwed

Bob

@allquixotic sure it's not floating-point?

or arb-length?

bwDraco

Let's not talk about NSFW content here.

allquixotic

could be arb-length, but not floating point, you always have an integer number of gold

qasdfdsaq

4:56 PM

There's something to be said about hard house, flashing lights, and explosive flight testing in KSP.

I should probably try dubbing dubstep over my KSP videos

Bob

@qasdfdsaq is that something "seizure warning"? :P

allquixotic

at least it's a fairly realistic game; the ones dressed as cats go "meow"

qasdfdsaq

@Bob I'm pretty sure I could kill anybody with photosensitive epilepsy if they came in my room.

But personally, the flashing lights don't trigger seizures in me.

Bob

@allquixotic ah, because we all need realism for our VNs, of course :P

allquixotic

@Bob that was heavy sarcasm (and it's not even a VN)

Bob

4:58 PM

It isn't? Huh.

qasdfdsaq

But all in all, I have about 100w of fully controllable LED lighting in here, all of which can be blinked, rotated or colour cycled at will.

allquixotic

@Bob no, there is no "novel" part... it's just a V

Bob

Ah.

qasdfdsaq

What's VN?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Visual Novel

qasdfdsaq

4:59 PM

Ah

Bob

Basically, you click through a story (textual) with accompanying static graphics.

allquixotic

I prefer to think of it as a game about chopping down human-shaped trees

Bob

Also kinda choose-your-own-adventure.

qasdfdsaq

600w equivalent of flashing lights... hmm yeah that's a lot

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Think Phoenix Wright if you're familiar with that.

qasdfdsaq

5:01 PM

Right now they're not all flashing tho

bwDraco

Moderators' instructions to chill out and relax are binding. Sorry, folks, for whatever disruption may have happened due to my failure to do so.

allquixotic

wow, just spent 50 quadrillion gold on a companion that attacks for 80 trillion @_@

ah, the next companion solves my question about how they count higher powers of 10

the next one is 2.5 "bb"

so it doesn't go aa, ab, ac, etc... it goes aa, bb, cc, dd

so... one down, 25 to go! :P

Bob

@bwDraco If you're talking about what happened before: we're intentionally not discussing that in chat. There's no reason to, and no benefit to doing so. If you're talking about your request to avoid NSFW topics, afaict we've done so.

@allquixotic reminds me of Upgrade Complete

and now I suddenly want to go back to flash games :\

bwDraco

Discussing it would cause more disruption. Sorry.

Bob

oh wow, 2009. that was old.

bwDraco

5:04 PM

I can't forget about things like this easily, though.

allquixotic

you know, I'm actually a little disappointed... @Bob you would hate this game... they have cat-girls, wolf-girls (mostly satisfies JMG), but no fox-girls

Bob

lol

jokerdino

@allquixotic what is this game we are talking about?

qasdfdsaq

Urgh. Cruciform tails are so ugly in KSP

Bob

(thanks)

qasdfdsaq

5:06 PM

...

bwDraco

Whoa. I was about to repost it.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq aren't they fairly standard?

bwDraco

Stepping out of the room as a precaution.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Not really.

jokerdino

hm, is the game kinky?

allquixotic

5:07 PM

@jokerdino do your own research (and don't share it here)

Bob

*drags conversation back to safer ground*

jokerdino

oh god, not scrolling down anymore.

qasdfdsaq

Most IRL passenger jets are fuselage mounted tails, with some T-tails on smaller planes.

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq I was able to create a successful T-tail subsonic aircraft with turbofans in KSP

reminded me a lot of the MD-80

Bob

@jokerdino here, have a pseudo-star (to avoid polluting the star-wall)

qasdfdsaq

5:08 PM

Bob

@allquixotic Aren't T-tails at risk from deep stalls?

I wonder if you could simulate that in KSP

allquixotic

@Bob yeah...

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic Yeah I had a T-tail on this thing previously, but the levarage was too high

jokerdino

@Bob haha, that works too

qasdfdsaq

@Bob IRL, yes. In KSP, no, even with "enhanced" aerodynamic models

allquixotic

5:09 PM

@Bob if you designed a craft similar to the MD-80 you could probably fly it into a deep stall with Ferram Aerospace

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic Nah, Ferram doesn't model airflow, occlusion, or anything like that

Bob

@qasdfdsaq pity. that sounds like fun. unless your name is Jeb

qasdfdsaq

Ferram is actually exceedingly dumb when it comes to aerodynamics.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Hm. I've never actually noticed those before.

qasdfdsaq

That's my current craft I'm flight testing

Bob

5:11 PM

ah. the exploded one

qasdfdsaq

I fixed the exploding.

allquixotic

@Bob you could definitely simulate it in X-Plane

qasdfdsaq

Putting the horizontal tail fins on the fuselage would make them explode because of the main engine exhaust. Putting them at the top of the tail (T-tail) puts it too far off the centre of mass and wobbly. So I put it in the middle, where it's butt ugly, but functional

Bob

@qasdfdsaq would placing the engines further out help?

qasdfdsaq

Probably. I've done them at mid-span at some point. Problem is, you need to split the wing around it, or put them far enough back so the exhaust doesn't overlap with the wing.

And on a swept-back wing that means the further out you put them the further back they have to go, which knocks your centre of mass back and the plane flips out of control.

Bob

5:14 PM

:\

wings further forward? :P

qasdfdsaq

Nah, that makes things worse.

I also have lots of crap under the wing that kinda limits what I can do

Bob

ah

bwDraco

Perhaps I should just get myself a copy of KSP?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq holy mach 3

bwDraco

Let's focus on the future and not worry about past incidents.

qasdfdsaq

5:15 PM

@Bob Wait till I get to mach 20...

Bob

@bwDraco only if you want to.

bwDraco

Not that I'm interested in buying another game at this time.

qasdfdsaq

Bob

I find the tweaking is too finicky for my liking.

It's fun discussing it with others, though.

qasdfdsaq

That's what I did before, with the engine between the two wing sections.

Thing is those engines were from the interstellar mod, and I'm trying to stay as near stock as possible and not use near-future technologies.

Bob

5:16 PM

@qasdfdsaq Are you trying to make a cargo spaceplane? :P

qasdfdsaq

@Bob This one? Nah, well sorta.

bwDraco

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A: Moving partitions with YaST Expert Partitioner: "already created on disk and cannot be moved"

The swap partition sdb5 is a logical partition inside an extended partition sdb2. The remaining space is not truly unpartitioned—it is part of the extended partition, though it could be used to add more partitions. An extended partition is essentially a container for more partitions. The purpose...

qasdfdsaq

The "cargo" in the bay is basically for self-refuelling and setting up an off-planet base

bwDraco

Okay. Why does YaST still require partitions to start and end on cylinder boundaries?

qasdfdsaq

I could have done it easier with a rocket but I like planes. TBH I have no idea what I'm trying to make, I just like flying shit.

Ah I remember what I forgot to put on this thing... airbrakes

bwDraco

5:20 PM

Sure, I understand that some very old legacy BIOS firmware still use (virtual) CHS addressing and cannot directly boot from a partition not on a cylinder boundary, but is this still an issue?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Did you find out while trying to land? :P

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Nah, this design I've been working on for a few weeks is pretty damn robust at landing

It can lithobrake at mach 2

Bob

huh.

my pitiful spaceplane attempts tended to have rather abrupt landings

qasdfdsaq

It's all about the landing gear.

Bob

as in "bounce bounce smash boom oh hey the cockpit survived"

qasdfdsaq

5:22 PM

The stock landing gear is really really hard

bwDraco

I don't get why partitioning software still insist on CHS addressing.

qasdfdsaq

Well, the original stock landing gear. The newer stock gears are a lot better.

Bob

ah

maybe I should try again sometime

qasdfdsaq

The small white ones with built in lights (the only ones up until like, version 1.0) pretty much blow up anything but the most perfect landings

Also I haven't landed this thing yet, it's now at mach 13.

Grr how the hell do you see all your own videons on Youtube, I did it yesterday...

KSP 2013 09 20 12 55 49 96

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You're not alone... :-P

Bob

lol

qasdfdsaq

5:26 PM

KSP 2013 09 20 12 43 07 19

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^^ Another failed attempt

Pretty much 95% of my landings are successful now, but that's not because I've gotten any better, it's literally just because I've found better landing gear.

The one thing about you get from having the same key set to temperature overlay in KSP also set to record in Fraps, is you get some silly hilarious unplanned videos.

Like a 7GB video of my Star Trek Online login screen.

Bob

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Q: How did Alice and Bob die?

A police investigator walks into a room. He sees two dead bodies on the floor, those of the unfortunate duo Alice and Bob, the players in many physics thought experiments. They had been locked in the room together. The investigator notices several things: The door was sealed, and remained seale...

lateral-thinking

qasdfdsaq

> ...are actually fish! They were in a glass fishbowl on the table that had shattered, perhaps due to an unfortunate resonant frequency*. This frequency also broke the glass window. This explains the broken glass and water on the floor, and the two dead (but otherwise uninjured) fish :(

The hell?

@Bob: One big drawback of the old stock landing gear in KSP is they were physicsless, and 100% rigid (and practically indestructable). Basically, they had zero spring or dampening functionality. They also had no steering originally.

Bob

Sometimes I feel like lateral-thinking is the fanfic of puzzles. :) — Trevor Powell yesterday

@qasdfdsaq yea, shock absorption was what I was missing :P

that and not being able to aim at the runway right, let alone other flat surfaces

I don't do well in flight sims :(

qasdfdsaq

Gah, my Youtube uploads would be so much faster if I transcoded these 4GB files down to 0.04GB before uploading...

But I'm just too lazy

Bob

heh... I only ever upload tiny snippets

up is too slow

qasdfdsaq

5:39 PM

Yeah I got complacent when I got my 20Mb upload >_>

Oops, guess I should have paused my music. Oh well

bwDraco

6:03 PM

Okay, back on the topic of certifications: How would I begin studying for RHCSA?

Do I do the official training (expensive and unlikely to be funded by my parents), or what other options should I consider?

bwDraco

6:16 PM

Called Mother. Seems I'll need to meet a high standard of proof (conclusive evidence required) that doing this would substantially benefit me in the long run and that less expensive alternatives, if any, would not provide a similar level of benefit before I can be funded.

We're talking about at least $3500 to $5000 here.

bwDraco

6:39 PM

There would probably be no problem with buying a RHEL Server license (entry-level self-support—$349 a year), but CentOS can act as a close substitute with a few minor differences.

So is getting started with Red Hat certifications a good idea?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob youtu.be/xd5LErT3tD8?t=53

bwDraco

(Your responses may be used as evidence in determining whether funding will be provided.)

qasdfdsaq

Yay for shock absorbers

Bob

@qasdfdsaq that looks awesome. now I want one.

That bounce :D just like a real plane

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Any suggestions would be opinion-based, especially as we don't know what your future career path is going to look like.

qasdfdsaq

6:50 PM

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That's a... slightly less ridiculously overspeed landing

Bob

ow my ears

qasdfdsaq

14 minutes left uploading the "stock" non-bouncy landing gear...

bwDraco

The training and exams are intended for people already working in the industry, so as I understand it, they're supposed to be paid for by their employers.

qasdfdsaq

Yeah, sorry.

bwDraco

I'm just a student with some Linux sysadmin experience, but not in a serious, production environment.

qasdfdsaq

6:51 PM

That's the one where I left my music while recording >_>

Bob

@qasdfdsaq music's alright, but unexpectedly loud :P

my headset is set at 4% -_-

qasdfdsaq

The youtube window the music was coming from was set to 25%

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Did you build that plane yourself?

bwDraco

Also, that experience is primarily with the SUSE platform, which means there will be a bit of a learning curve to transition to the Red Hat plaform.

qasdfdsaq

Yeah, I always build everything myself

Bob

6:52 PM

It looks just like a modern airliner

@qasdfdsaq nice

qasdfdsaq

See the weird looking flying wing in the first video? That's a great example of Ferram being absolutely fucked up

Bob

@qasdfdsaq The first landing?

qasdfdsaq

Yeah

See the top and bottom are covered by wing surfaces?

They both get equal lift. Unless they're touching something, like, when the landing gear deploys, at which point they instantly drop to zero drag and zero lift.

Bob

o.O

qasdfdsaq

And objects sandwiched between the top and bottom wings... get lift at all times

But if either wing touches say an engine on the inside, it gets zero

@Bob The whole "modern airliner" thing is what compelled me to build this very originally named plane I called "Jet!"

So there I was, going, I wonder if I can build something that looks like a modern airliner. So I came up with this

Bob

7:03 PM

@qasdfdsaq That is ridiculously accurate.

Stock parts?

qasdfdsaq

And then at the end I went, "Hmm, what should I name this thing?" "I know! I'll call it... Jet!". Can you see how creative I am from the elegant names I give my planes

Bob

I'd probably call it Plane 23

qasdfdsaq

All stock, except the slightly stock-alike landing gear. Some parts rescaled.

The earlier landing one was like, Space Plane Beta 3B4CA

Guess what? It actually flies like a real airliner too.

Bob

qasdfdsaq

It actually takes a real minute or so to take off. And needs flaps.

Bob

7:08 PM

@qasdfdsaq Normal KSP solution: MOAR ENGINES

qasdfdsaq

Yeah, I was tempted to put four engines on it, but meh. Turbojet engines don't go particularly fast

Bob

@qasdfdsaq strap a booster rocket to it? :P

kinda breaks the realism though

qasdfdsaq

forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/…

Bob

@bwDraco KSP. Fuel cost?

qasdfdsaq

Yeah I was trying to ... actually try to get close to the legit aerodynamic model of a IRL jet too

So these are the landing gear I use. Fairly similar to the newer stock gears but fully adjustable

bwDraco

7:09 PM

I know, but I'm wondering if fuel capacity is an issue in KSP.

Bob

KSP: if it doesn't fly, add more rockets. if it breaks, add more struts.

qasdfdsaq

You can adjust the springyness, dampener amount, wheel angle, brakes, steering, motors, etc.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq oh wow

that's the kind of complexity that's amazing to watch, but too much for my poor brain to handle :S

qasdfdsaq

And of course, size.

KSP 2016 03 05 18 44 53 20

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You may want to mute

That's landing the same plane as the first one but with stock gears. Didn't go as horrendously wrong as I expected, but possibly because I didn't engage the brakes until it was flat and level

TBH you can just leave all the tweakables at default with the adjustable gear and only use the slider for size.

Like many performance tweaks, it makes considerable difference in synthetic tests but really very little difference in actual use

It's only meaningful if you're an anally retented perfectinolist like me

Bob

@qasdfdsaq heh, the cockpit bobs almost in time to the music

qasdfdsaq

7:15 PM

lol

It's not meant to Bob at all >_>

Bob

bit of a thud on the landing

qasdfdsaq

I was expecting an explosion on landing tbh

Bob

lol

qasdfdsaq

It seems that, despite still being so rigid it's like landing on a train wheel, they've improved the survivability of the stock gears

Bob

@qasdfdsaq The modded ones look like real airliner gears. The stock ones look like someone found some old wheels in their garage.

qasdfdsaq

7:17 PM

Either that or the six days I spent tweaking the aerodynamic characteristics and weight distribution of the plane... worked.

Bob

...I bet that's what the part description says too.

qasdfdsaq

heh

So as far as tweaking goes, here's an example of basically... leaving them on default settings

They work just fine, but you can tell it's a bit unbalanced from that very artificial test

KSP 2016 03 05 18 58 17 58

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And this is what you get after tweaking them to be "just right" for the particular plane:

KSP 2016 03 05 19 00 26 29

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Bob

Gravity hack o.O

wait why do you have RCS on an airliner?

qasdfdsaq

Spaceliner.

Bob

ah

cool, cargo door

qasdfdsaq

7:21 PM

Yeah that used to be part of a mod pack but they incorporated it into the stock game recently

Bob

anyway, I'm gonna go catch a bit more sleep. happy KSPing :P

qasdfdsaq

K

You can watch me ~~blow up~~ carefully land with the absence of engines my jet tomorrow :-P

It seats 144 passengers + 4 crew, so that's what, A319 size? Maybe looks more like an A320.

bwDraco

s4.qasdf...

Are you running an RDP server? (or more accurately, why do you have an RDP session open?)

Michael Frank

8:26 PM

@qasdfdsaq Yea, that Google Maps data was from this year actually. So maybe not as long as I thought. Since this is pretty much the first time we've ever heard them in 4+ years of living here.

bwDraco

10:31 PM

Let's talk about storage systems.

With enterprises commonly selecting 2.5-inch drives for greater storage density (especially important with cloud servers), why aren't consumer storage systems moving in this direction?

Pretty much all consumer NAS / storage servers use 3.5-inch drives.

Short of rolling your own storage server, what consumer NAS enclosures are designed to handle 2.5-inch drives?

Okay. This is starting to make sense.

Storage density is gained at the expense of cost. The average consumer isn't trying to pack petabytes into a 42U 19-inch rack.

A power user might have up to eight disks in a RAID 10 or RAID 6 array, using high-capacity 3.5-inch disks. Eight 3.5-inch hard drives isn't exactly going to take up a lot of space.

It's extraordinarily unusual for a consumer to require substantially more than this much storage and be space-constrained at the same time.

I can see why a consumer would require 20+ TB of storage, but all this storage can still fit in a reasonably-sized box.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I'm still in the middle of what I'm here to do. Its extremely long and difficult, and it looks like it may not end well.

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Context?

Journeyman Geek

I'd note the open letter and all that is kind of a symptom of the problem - that you're constantly demanding people pay attention to you

bwDraco

I've set aside the matter.

Journeyman Geek

To the point where its tireseome.

bwDraco

10:43 PM

So what's next and are any additional actions planned against me?

Journeyman Geek

I got pinged. I just got online properlike for the first time

@bwDraco I quite literally have no time to deal with you at the moment.

bwDraco

Oh, okay. You were away at the time I had pinged you.

As I said, this issue is behind me.

Journeyman Geek

Just behave the next few days, Try not to fall back into that pattern and we'll see.

bwDraco

I'm just going to forget it.

(that isn't exactly safe)

Never mind.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob @DavidPostill small correction, I'm here till the 16th. Likely to have better internet access from tommorrow.

bwDraco

10:46 PM

I'm rather confused as to what you're going through right now. Is this a job interview or something?

Journeyman Geek

No

Family issues

bwDraco

I made the decision to not lurk chat during the suspension.

The whole point was to separate me from SE for a brief period.

I made sure of that and instead focused on how to address the issues at hand.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Thx. I will continue to keep an eye on things while you are away. A kick will be forthcoming if necessary.

bwDraco

@DavidPostill: No need for special attention. The issues have been addressed.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco It wasn't particularly addressed at you.

bwDraco

10:49 PM

Not to sound defiant, but I did take a close look at what happened and why and I'm 100% confident it won't happen again.

DavidPostill

The proof is always in the pudding ;)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I'm relying on those two to keep an eye on things for me. We might also have some troubled trollish newbie

bwDraco

Hmm. I'll try my best to do my part. As noted before, I won't make moderation decisions in haste.

I have not seen any suspicious activity earlier today.

Journeyman Geek

I'd originally assumed I'd be back on the 14th

bwDraco

@DavidPostill I was participating normally the last several hours. I know you want me to prove it, but I don't see anything to prove because at least in my eyes, the problem is already solved. This might seem overconfident and risky of me, but I'm ready to move forward.

In any case, I'll be on the lookout for any abnormal behavior in this room, including any signs of trolling.

DavidPostill

10:53 PM

@bwDraco I already told you it wasn't particularly aimed at you.

Mokubai

@bwDraco "The proof is in the pudding" is a phrase that basically means "we'll just see what happens" it's not meant as a challenge or that you have to prove anything.

bwDraco

It's been very stressful these last several days, and I'm sorry to have added to the moderation workload. I'll play my role in helping to understand why those spurious flags and stars have been happening.

Mokubai

@bwDraco Though, as I mentioned in a comment on your meta question, actively hunting out and making a fuss when the troll gets triggered is likely what he wants. The key rule to remember is "Don't feed the troll"

bwDraco

I'm aware of that, and I don't object to the question having been deleted.

Mokubai

Just deal with it, make a note, let us know.

It was deleted?

bwDraco

10:57 PM

@Mokubai I suspect that user probably wanted me suspended. That's my fault.

@Mokubai Sathya pulled it. I have no plans to flag it for undeletion.

Mokubai

Then see Rule #2: Don't get trolled. (Refer Rule #1)

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