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12:01 PM
the ratings for the 850 evo are rediculously high for any product.
 
Bob
o.O
looked at the Crucial MX200
it uses 16nm NAND (MLC)
nopenopenope
(funny how with a CPU a smaller process size is preferred but with an SSD I actually want the largest process size available...)
 
both ssds have ratings that are higher than even some great hard drives, which i suppose poeple are less likely to rate untill it fails .
 
And putting in a marvell controller anyways :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek that's for my HDDs :P
I'll be using the mobo SATA3 ports for the SSDs
 
12:07 PM
@Bob Duct tape
Did i show you my 5 1/4 suspention system ?
 
Bob
12:24 PM
@Psycogeek Ha, I already have one SSD free floating in there :P
Might as well get a proper caddy.
 
That is nice holding 2 things.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek 4 :P
 
no 2 and air still :p
besides that one is out of stock, you will have to go to the garage and break up one of those old HD cages you got and weld it in.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Out of stock because I bought the last one!
 
12:40 PM
didnt you read the reviews ? 2.5+2.5=5.25 ? after bending a few things :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Yea. But I only really need two slots.
 
figures
 
Bob
Worst case I'll stick one on top one on bottom.
Or cut it up.
I have a nice dremel-clone here I'm itching to test out ;)
@Psycogeek The only real issue here is the extra PCIe SATA adapter
 
and any wire length issues depending on the case?
 
Bob
It'll force my GPU onto x8 because the CPU only supports up to x16. But that shouldn't matter too much... I hope.
@Psycogeek Also grabbed 3x 24" cables
(60 cm)
 
12:44 PM
@Bob like .01% change
 
Bob
I was considering a PCI adapter, but that caps out at ~130 MB/s and I have two HDDs I want to move onto it.
The PCIe 2.0 x1 should reach 500 MB/s
 
I have reluctantly run in 8X now for way to long, but that does not seem to be as bad as having a PCI Lane Hub that creates a real extra lanes but adds a chipset chunk between them .
@Bob oh wait, your 8x change occurs via a 2.0 pci, i think i was referring to a 3.0 kind.
there still aint much difference , as far as i know, because even going back a long time the real HIT comes when you get pinched down to 4 or less.
You have not given us any details about your motherboard, but it sounds like the integrated video card has gone bad. Is it enabled and still recognized by BIOS? — CharlieRB 1 min ago
Oh i would like to see cases of that, where a Intel integrated video actually goes bad, and the cpu is still working and the memory is working and all them blasted tiny pins are connected
 
Bob
1:05 PM
I know it makes basically no difference but it still just feels bad :P
 
yea the system should boot up and warn you about it each day
"Your GPU Link Sucks
Max 16x You 8x "
Just so it takes even longer to forgidaboutit
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Q: Weird man's face on every album art on artists pic wmp

Suzoni am using windows 10, but wen i start wmp the album art has been hacked. There is always a man's face on every artists photo, same face. It happened on windiws 8.1 too. I clean installed windows 10 yesterday but the prob is there

Hey i bought these picture frames at target and there is some weird family pictured in them all too :-)
 
1:24 PM
This is what happens when you make the apple experience in windows computers, nobody knows where anything is anymore.
 
roar
 
"i don't know it always showed up in Itunes"
"thats ok dear, we will just download it from the store again"
mapper.acme.com/… I got an update on where bobs package is , see it there in the center .
Thats right, the grand canyon, it is to packages what clothes dryers are to socks.
 
1:52 PM
So my fucked up government decided to ban porn
 
@HackToHell is this India nationwide?
 
@HackToHell f--- up is right, your goverment doesnt know anything about porn if that is all they blocked :-)
 
Nationwide yes, not all ISPs have blocked it for now
The funny thing is it works over https
@Psycogeek Stupidity level : infinity
Internet and porn are different sides of the same coin
 
@HackToHell And it's 100% guaranteed to work over a VPN or HTTPS proxy to another country which is less restrictive, too, in which case, they either have two options: they can now ban all VPNs and encrypted connections, or they can shrug and allow trivial circumvention
 
hell they haven't even blocked normal https not even through a proxy
 
1:58 PM
right, but I'm sure they'll "improve" their banning to be smarter later, like not even routing to any of the IPs for those domains
 
The idea of them blocking is it bad. I don't think they understand the internet well enough to make that proper a ban.
@allquixotic Hopefully India will revolt
 
I think they'll realize their mistake and try to make the ban "harder" to bypass
 
We ain't pakistan or china
This is a democracy for fucks sake
@allquixotic Probably
 
they need flesh blocker 4500, the one true porn blocker, it puts burkas on everything
 
Eh using google dns bypasses the blocking
 
2:01 PM
@HackToHell the question is, are there enough people in the traditionalist / conservative mindset to sufficiently support the government in this decision? or is this a decision that only caters to the minority?
 
if you have 51% of the people saying "yeah government, good job, block more of it!" then it will continue to get worse
 
@allquixotic No idea
Not sure how dumb the masses are
 
Reuters reporting on this: reuters.com/article/2015/08/03/…
Government order. Ouch.
Even if the content is objectionable, this should be left at private discretion, perhaps with parental controls at the ISP level as a value-added service. The government shouldn't be involved here.
 
@HackToHell that video is hillariously funny and touching and heartbreaking all in one :-)
 
2:08 PM
I don't support sexually explicit content, but that doesn't mean the government should intervene.
Censorship is not okay.
 
2:40 PM
@HackToHell: Man, that moved fast
 
In the spirit of freedom websites around the world are putting up pictures of boobies, Google in support has made another creative G@@gle title. the indian govenment just shut off the whole web :-)
 
Me thinks the second and third pins are useless here, since most of us can google and all
 
2:56 PM
lol
or have upgraded already
 
Those pins were mostly there for the flood of infrequent chatters who came here asking about Win10 last week
 
3:19 PM
Anybody have any ideas?
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Q: Windows 10: Laptop display refuses to turn off

DragonLordSystem: Clevo P157SM (Sager NP8255-S). I've just upgraded to Windows 10 Pro on my laptop and now the display refuses to turn off even if I lock the session or after the configured timeout (15 minutes on AC, 3 minutes on battery). It doesn't matter whether the laptop is plugged in. The Monoff ut...

 
getting a new buyvm 128mb vps, where do I get it ?
Ping seems to be all the same to new jersey, luxembourgh and las vegas
 
o0
When I got mine, it was LV only
I need to decide if I want to renew it ._.
 
3:37 PM
@DragonLord what differs between monitor stanby only, and full computer standby on that? Like for example full standby on my desktop the mouse wont kick it back out, but simple mon standby anything will, either input devices and any of the keys.
There was some question recent where the person was tweaking in the device manager for all the Power management "Allow computer to turn off device" and "Allow this device to wake the computer" He did not want the waking to occur at all or something? And i was indicating he should also follow the connection path and control the USB hubs and controller too. Then out of the blue while adjusting all this power stuff it was some BT device or something
So you can get in there (such fun) and start tweaking all the things that allow adjust, so at least those items (when sending data) dont trigger it. . . . then turn around and discover is was something else all together , but at least there are buttons in there to adjust if a device kicks it or not
Along the same lines, you can disable and enable things easily in the device manager, when they are not there :-) they cant effect something. and for the most part if you can switch back to a controlset (last good recover) you can still boot no matter what crasy stuff you disable. Although it is preferable to have a clone backup first, before assaulting things that you just know would be critical.
With all the touchpad problems and issues, uhh i would be disabling it first to test if those drivers software were kicking it right back out.
Got wireless input devices? even though they are not moving, they often have to keep a communication going, or at least connection blips , while it shouldnt be , maybe a bad design of that does kick it back out.
 
4:04 PM
Greetings
 
I am sure you know, you dont test standbys with it set for 15 min or an hour :-) you set them for 1 min , and start putting things in and out, and disabling stuff ect, so discovery goes a lot faster
 
Anyone here uses PCSX2?
(It is a PS2 emulator)
 
my mon-off wouldnt work if i had an optical mouse , and was printing :-) because the printer shook the desk back n forth. there were times when a high-dpi mouse would not allow it because the pad texture was wider. Rolling the mouse on its back was a technique for dealing with that. Mousey pads with much finer textures changed that some.
 
4:33 PM
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@HackToHell what is this?
IRC?
 
4:50 PM
Something happened.
Something happened.
 
5:23 PM
 
Something happened.
 
Something indeed did happen.
 
Please set your locale settings to the same settings of a foreign developer
 
Well, let's see. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes.
Many somethings.
 
@Mokubai No! Most of the oil was plant matter.
 
5:29 PM
@allquixotic I don't see how that could be, films told me it was entirely dinosaurs...
Just like they told me Hong Kong has some giant alien monster corpse in it that people worship while other monsters fight giant robots nearby....
And New York was pretty much destroyed by a bunch of vigilantes who fought some other aliens.
 
@Mokubai do you believe everything films tell you?
 
@allquixotic "Historical Records", yes.
People wouldn't just go making that sort of thing up, surely?
What would be the point of that?
 
@Mokubai You should probably watch the movie "1984" then
 
Is it anything like the newspaper book I read? It was a very strange time I admit, though it explained a lot of the way kids talk these days...
It must have been a very strange year, though I don't remember it well because I was very young at the time.
 
5:51 PM
I'm interested to know what you think about Star Wars Episode III then.
 
I'm not sure I've seen that one, though I did see one that claimed it all happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far away. It's amazing that another civilization felt their historical records were important enough to send to us, and just at the right time when we had technology to receive it and show it to others, quite an astonishing coincidence...
 
Bob
@allquixotic They made an episode III?!
 
When Google puts a birthday into my calendar, is there a way to find out why?
Like, where do I know these people from?
 
Bob
Heh.
"But... I don't know this person..."
"Too bad! They're your friend now!"
 
 
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7:25 PM
My next laptop, a few years from now, is unlikely to be a full-size gaming system of the sort I currently use.
By then, I'll have a much beefier desktop, so the need for a top-end laptop is lessened.
It's more likely I'll select something along the lines of an HP Omen or similar thin-and-light gaming-class system.
Still very expensive, but much easier to carry.
 
@OliverSalzburg In my experience, it's from either orkut, google plus, or your android contacts.
 
7:42 PM
Abby T. Miller on August 3, 2015
Welcome to Stack Exchange podcast episode #66, recorded live at Stack Exchange HQ in New York, NY on July 7, 2015. Today's podcast is brought to you by The Association of Ex-Fog Creek Summer Interns (AEFCSI). Today's show is hosted by the usual suspects Jay Hanlon, David Fullerton, and Joel Spolsky, plus ex post facto Producer Alex.
 
8:08 PM
I'm trying to achieve this:
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A: SSH to server behind firewall

Kerrek SBThis is fairly simple if you have control over the server. I'll give the command-line version, and you can work that into any framework you like: server$ ssh -R 9091:localhost:22 client.example.egg client$ ssh -p 9091 localhost The server establishes a connection to the client first which sta...

But I keep getting Permission denied (publickey,password). How do I proceed?
 
Huh, another "I'm selling a $COMPUTER_THING, how can I maximise the price I get"
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy On which end?
 
There was one yesterday about laptops, and I'm sure I've seen others
Spam seed?
"Oh, format the drive, make sure it passes memtest86+, and oh by the way you could list it at BOBS_HARDWARE_E-PORIUM!"
(no offence to Bobs anywhere, especially not @Bob :P)
Oh since you're about @allquixotic, in case you didn't catch the scrollback/notification your suggestion to opt for open source AMD/ATI drivers seems to have sorted the clipping issue I was having with the audio :)
 
I don't know from which end the error message is coming =/
Using the linked question as an example, "server" is a local internal IP from this network, and "client" is a server that I rent on BuyVM, running debian
 
It took some pain wrestling with packages and Xorg segfaults and such, but got there and HTPC is happy :)
 
8:25 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy How can you not know? The error is coming from the "server", but the meaning of "server" changes between the two commands.
Box A: Not behind a firewall, and able to accept incoming SSH on the public Internet
Box B: Behind a firewall and can't receive inbound SSH, but can still SSH "Outbound" to remote hosts
Step 1: SSH from Box B to Box A and establish a remote port forward. In Step 1, Box B is the "client", and Box A is the "server".
Step 2: SSH from Box A to Box B and get to the SSH session you're trying to access. In Step 2, Box A is the "client", and Box B is the "server".
So from which box are you typing the ssh command that returns to you the message Permission denied?
@bertieb I figured as much. fglrx is hot garbage. It's slightly better on Windows, but not by much. AMD Catalyst is complicated enough to be an operating system; but by that analogy, it's about as stable and buggy as Windows 95.
 
@allquixotic Hah! I'll bear that in mind for the future.
Perhaps if it's getting that complex, some features could be offloaded to emacs
Should simplify things for everyone concerned :P
Because as we all know the one thing that emacs lacks is a 3d graphics management subsystem
 
step 1 (apparently) works fine. `netstat -a` even shows listening connections.
Trying to perform step 2 gives me the aforementioned error.
I tried ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=keyboard-interactive -o PubkeyAuthentication=no and ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=password -o PubkeyAuthentication=no on step 2, but the same error shows up
...I have to go. I'll write a question later =/
 
8:57 PM
Running a Pro edition of Windows? Here's a way to keep track of every system shutdown: howtogeek.com/howto/6832/…
 
9:44 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy Then there is a problem with whatever authentication is set up on Box B's SSH server. It seems to expect a public key or a password, but you aren't entering either, or you're typing the wrong password, or you have the wrong certificate, or...
 
10:42 PM
@JourneymanGeek Finally finished my answer for that question
@DragonLord I have that running on my home server. It's always "Other (Planned)"
 
11:03 PM
It's been a while since I've opened the main service cover on my laptop.
A closer look reveals that the two HSF units have a total of five heatpipes.
One HSF unit has two heatpipes for the CPU. The other has two heatpipes for the GPU and one for the memory.
For each HSF unit, the heatpipes are attached to a large radiator, through which an impeller fan blows air to cool the unit.
Bear in mind that both the CPU and GPU can be replaced by a skilled end-user.
Select Intel type M mobile CPUs are available at retail.
GPU upgrade kits are available from Canadian Clevo system builder Eurocom: eurocom.com/ec/vgas(1)ec
(including one for my laptop model, P157SM)
Hey, my USB floppy drive still works.
System assigns it A:, as it should.
 
11:51 PM
;p
 
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