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2:10 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy How do you use it? App or local phoen number?
 
app may be a better idea
Some phone companies occationally 'decide' an access number should be charged the full overseas rate, even tho its a local number.
 
@JourneymanGeek O_o (x9.999)
That sounds just illegal
 
XD
Should be, and we were a little surprised by that
 
@Boris_yo I use a local phone number
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy To call to operator?
 
2:16 PM
Phone => call to land number owned by VoIP provider => VoIP network => international number
 
Sourceforge has a fucking download manager
Whatever happened to that site ._.
 
@HackToHell: they got acquired ;p
@allquixotic Ahahahahahaha.
 
Bob
2:34 PM
@allquixotic Oh hey you're back :)
@allquixotic Oh god wtf
 
@Bob yeah, took the weekend off
 
Bob
@allquixotic Off SU, or off work? :P
 
hi
 
@Bob off SU :P
AND work!
 
;p
And was playing SW TOR? ;p
 
2:41 PM
I'm playing Civilization: Beyond Earth with buddies from SW:TOR
 
Bob
@allquixotic Aren't weekends normally off work? o.O
 
we still play TOR but I got like 5 people addicted to Beyond Earth
 
(eheh. I was skivving from mod duties playing BL 1.5 ;p)
 
@Bob yeah, but I had to state the obvious
 
Bob
Oh, and it seems Nvidia drivers don't use AppInit_DLLs
 
2:42 PM
@Bob what do they use, then?
 
Bob
@allquixotic I don't know! :P
 
@Bob do they still hook userspace though?
 
Bob
AMD and intel don't seem to either.
@allquixotic Dunno. I was looking at that specific key.
There's probably other ways.
 
well, with a kernel driver, they can probably do fairly insidious things like hotpatching your process's code :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic Perhaps PsSetLoadImageNotifyRoutine as suggested in one of the ONT comments?
> AppInit_DLLs has one use. Patching up security flaws for which MS has not yet released a patch without touching the binaries and thereby breaking future updates.
> @Joshua: PsSetLoadImageNotifyRoutine is better suited to that task than AppInit_DLLs. For one thing, AppInit_DLLs cannot fix security holes for services that do not load user32.dll.
@allquixotic "patching up security flaws without touching the binaries"
... sounds exactly like that
 
2:46 PM
although honestly, the memory leak is not necessarily tied down to any sort of binary injection
the Direct3D framework itself allows the vendor's implementation to load arbitrary DLLs into the process
those DLLs could be taking your virtual address space, and not releasing it
worth mentioning that after updating my AMD Catalyst driver a few times, the problem I had months ago with system memory exhaustion is completely gone
and that's without reinstalling the OS, or the game involved
 
Bob
@allquixotic That was months ago? O_O
 
@Bob well, like 2 months ago.
 
Bob
O_O
 
the problem I had was with the AMD Catalyst September 2014 driver package, and possibly also the Beta that was out prior to that.
 
Bob
I was looking at my older work emails recently... stuff I did almost a year ago feels like yesterday.
 
2:48 PM
one of the more recent (November?) betas fixed it, and the fix propagated to the Omega Driver release in December.
 
Bob
I need to update the Nvidia drivers sometime.
But I'm also scared to touch it.
The driver situation on that machine is extremely precarious.
 
I'm pretty happy with the AMD Catalyst Omega Driver release. I get a random TDR about once per day in SW:TOR, but the performance is excellent (noticeably better in busy areas), and the performance in Civ: Beyond Earth in Mantle mode is incredible -- 60 fps solid everywhere
 
Bob
@allquixotic That's a lot of crashes.
 
@Bob not really
 
Bob
Once per day?
 
2:50 PM
in 2012, I would get a TDR about every 5 minutes
 
Bob
o.O
 
one TDR per day that doesn't even crash the program isn't too bad
 
Bob
Is this TOR-specific or just in general?
 
it's definitely TOR-specific, since I played Beyond Earth for like 10 hours straight with not a single glitch
and that was in CrossFire mode!
 
Bob
Ah.
I remember a couple years ago I had constant TDRs and even graphics corruption (artefacts).
Hey, it was 2012 too! :P
That was due to a failing fan and/or poor thermal paste, though.
 
2:52 PM
AMD Catalyst has never been 100% TDR-free for me, but their implementation philosophy is very much GIGO, so if an app stuffs nonsense into the GPU, the GPU hangs... simple as that
I can't foresee WebGL/WebCL ever being whitelisted by default on AMD Catalyst
it's a trivial DoS attack
 
Bob
@allquixotic I haven't had issues in over a year, apart from the whole memory leak thing.
Then again, I don't play TOR, so if that one does crazy shit...
 
the Intel open source graphics team is doing it right on the Linux side, imo
they have a command stream verifier in the kernel that makes sure that apps can't submit garbage into the GPU
therefore, assuming a formal or semi-formal proved command stream verifier, the GPU won't hang
 
hey guys
i just installed new driver from amd website and brightness can not been changed :/
 
Bob
@GeoMint 'lo
@GeoMint Laptop?
Recent laptop?
 
yes
 
Bob
2:57 PM
Does it have an Intel CPU?
 
no AMD
 
Bob
So AMD CPU and GPU?
 
does it matter?
 
@GeoMint not stating what operating system you're running == fatal error. abort. no attempt to help.
 
linux mint
 
Bob
2:58 PM
Well, I don't know if laptops with AMD + Nvidia exist, but that'd certainly be fun.
 
brightness no longer change after install driver from amd website
:P
 
oh boy... yeah, fglrx on Linux, of course that's going to have problems. of course.
 
i know
i just learned that :P
 
just use the open source graphics stack...?
 
how
 
2:59 PM
by not using fglrx?
 
how to go back?
 
gah...
 
Bob
Presumably whatever method you used to install it also has the inverse operation.
 
noo
 
gotta do work, and CBA to troubleshoot fglrx junk remotely
 
3:00 PM
i used a .run file from amd
 
Bob
So, an install script... does it take an uninstall parameter? :P (I have no idea if/how that would work - never bothered with graphics on Linux)
 
i am at the driver manager at linux mint settings
i will try in a while bob
 
Bob
6
Q: How do I remove the FGLRX drivers after I've installed them by hand?

HailwoodI installed ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run downloaded from the ATI Website. However I installed the generic version instead of building a distribution specific installer. Now I have the gnome-shell graphic glitches that are associated with having the old Fglrx drivers installed. How ...

Though they used the packages.
 
thanks bob
 
Bob
See also
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A: How do I remove the proprietary ATI drivers?

bioSharkHere are the release notes for the driver. As for their instructions, the uninstall: aticonfig --uninstall Alternatively, uninstall can be launched with superuser permissions using the following commands as well: sh ati-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run --uninstall sh /usr/share/ati/amd-unin...

 
3:04 PM
do you think that hurts my laptop having fglrx? (the only problem i see is not changing brightness )
i am trying the first question's answer
THANKS Uninstall fglrx driver complete.
 
let me do a reboot
@Bob you are awesome
 
Bob
@GeoMint protip: Google/SE search is useful :P
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@Bob i searched
 
Bob
Search term: "fglrx uninstall" google.com.au/…
'course, needed @allquixotic's suggestion to do the uninstall in the first place
 
3:12 PM
everything is ok now
brightness changes
all back to normal :)
 
 
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4:28 PM
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good old flack overstow
 
Bob
o.o
 
4:42 PM
....
> has to keep track of the herds of roaming animals might sometimes manifested in college campuses
that's pretty awesome for a Markov chain sentence generator lol
heads up, a buddy of mine might be hopping in as Cavil in a bit ;p
if Cavil starts chatting away without being !!ed, it's my friend
CBA to get them to make a new account, then write up a decent answer to a Q for them to copy and paste to get upvotes
 
Bob
4:59 PM
o.O
well, I'll probably miss that
4am, Thread.Sleep((int)(1000 * 60 * 60 * 3.5));
@allquixotic You could've left us believing Cavil became self-aware :P
 
@Bob How long do you sleep per day o.0
 
Bob
@HackToHell Unhandled Exception: System.Threading.ThreadInterruptedException: Thread was interrupted from a waiting state.
 
5:23 PM
@HackToHell My bet? 3 hours.
Hey @Mokubai
How's moderatorship? Ya burned out yet? :)
 
5:37 PM
@ChatBotJohnCavil Say something, you goof!
 
Morning all
 
@allquixotic It's very interesting TBH, it has its interesting moments. Not burned out, just chillin'.
@allquixotic you got any plans for the holiday period?
@CanadianLuke Morning? I'm just about to cook evening dinner...
 
@Mokubai Not my fault you live so far away! Lol
 
5:43 PM
That kinda proves it, you're too far away...
 
:-( Why can't my igloo have nice things?
 
I found it hilarious that I couldn't watch the UK episodes of Whose Line Is It Anyway on Youtube
 
At home, I can use the Hola Unblocker, but I'm at work, on a government network... They frown upon private traffic
!!! Why can't people proof read before sending emails to 2500+ "professionals"?
 
@CanadianLuke Absolutely not
 
5:53 PM
@CanadianLuke Proofreading would mean they spent more than 20 seconds thinking about it, that would severely cut into their time browsing facebook
 
.... I can't believe @ChatBotJohnCavil understood and answered so proficiently... Is it turing tested?
 
Bob
6:04 PM
@allquixotic ...I was wondering why everything was refusing to update.
Spotify decided to cache > 4 GB on the internal memory.
The SD card had over 12 GB free.
O_O desktop Spotify has Chrome devtools
 
@Bob holy cow :D
@Bob I THINK they want to replace the "desktop" players with a Chromium browser and the play.spotify.com website, lol
@Mokubai YESSS I'm going to broadway :D
 
Weekend sleep was all screwed up. Overslept a lot today. Working from home. :(
 
@allquixotic Nice! Going to see anything in particular or just going to Broadway in general?
 
Hate it when I do this. :P
 
@Mokubai The Last Ship! :D
I'm a huge fan of Sting!
 
6:17 PM
I finally got btsync running properly with my phone and server! Yay!
 
Wallsend, historically Wallsend on Tyne, is an area in North Tyneside, Tyne and Wear, North East of England. Wallsend derives its name as the location of the end of Hadrian's Wall. It has a population of 42,842 and lies 3.5 miles east of Newcastle City Centre. == History == === Romans === In Roman times, Wallsend hosted the fort Segedunum. This fort protected the eastern end of Hadrian's Wall, which terminated at the western wall of the fort. Wallsend was occupied by the Romans for around 330 years from A.D. 81 to A.D. 410. === Pre-Conquest === The withdrawal of the Romans from the Wa...
it's about the fall of the shipbuilding industry in that town, in 2007
 
@allquixotic the song "The Last Ship" sounds good. Could be an interesting show. Enjoy dude! :)
Just read up at thelastship.com
 
@Mokubai I have the album and the original Broadway soundtrack. I'm addicted :D
and I know most of Sting's other songs too
 
Last show I watched was many years ago on London, I think it was We Will Rock You. I meant to get around to going to see Avenue Q but kept forgetting
 
West End? :D
 
6:24 PM
@allquixotic Probably, it was a good few years ago
@allquixotic Plus Broadway is probably a bit too expensive to get to... ;)
 
yup lol
I'm shelling out an extremely irresponsible amount of money to get from Maryland to New York and see one show
 
6:41 PM
@allquixotic Well now would be the time to go see it, what with Sting and all....
You taking anyone with you?
 
@Mokubai Just mom. No one special of the romantic persuasion. :((
 
6:58 PM
@allquixotic Then you just aren't being romantically persuasive enough! :P
Turns out the battery powered portable speaker that I got as a crappy gift at AMD is just slightly better than my laptop speakers. :P
 
@BenRichards lol nice
 
7:22 PM
"TURN OFF THE LASER GUIDE STAR" "WHY" "STAR CATS"
4
 
7:55 PM
Today is one of those days.
 
What happened?
 
Nothing happened. I just am having a hard time finding motivation to do things.
 
@CanadianLuke I have that problem too, when the e-mail server screws up somehow and the password isnt accepted, up pops the requester if you want to try entering the password, which nobody actually knows :-) because the program has been putting it in for 4 years.
If i could just look back behind ******** this, i would know what it was :-)
 
@Psycogeek I agree, but that is chalked up to user laziness. They need to learn to memorize their passwords, or else get some method of getting their passwords back. What if their computer is wiped or stolen? A lot of good it'll do then, not knowing the passwords...
There are apps that will reveal passwords on screen, but many AVs delete them
 
When you have 20 passwords that could never possibly be guessed via a passwords list, who can remember that? At first i had generally 3-4 passes Secure ones and who cares it is a forum ones.
Then they started getting all "secure" and making requirements one way or another. this one wants 8 or less, that one requires caps and a #^!% , this one wants 16 , that one wont TAKE the !#$
 
8:06 PM
@Psycogeek You can look behind the stars on Windows 8 by clicking a toggle button.
 
Add to that , the 8 e-mail addresses because they hand them out like candy (to anyone not spamming). then different pass requirements at each location. giving 2 sets of things I cant remember :-)
 
Otherwise, I'm sure it's probably embedded in the registry somewhere. :P
 
how do i add a mail user from command line in ubuntu? i mean i want to get such email abuse@example.com. so i need to have an abuse user, not for login but for mail
 
For the other user , I just wrote it down on a piece of paper, if somone actually breaks into the house, they could install a keylogger in 5 seconds anyways , and really who cares if somone steals your WallMart account (with no credit card attached)
 
@ShubhamNishad Depending on the mail server, you might get away with just running (as root) echo abuse : root >> /etc/aliases
 
8:15 PM
This other user (the landlord) Hates computers, and doesnt want anything to do with them. . . but somehow has 29 accounts online (how do you do that?) and 6 different passwords because the machine would not accept the ones created.
 
@Psycogeek I still have pack of 3.5" diskettes in my closet...
 
@Psycogeek 29 accounts for what? Facebook?!?
 
@CanadianLuke, I'm using postfix
 
Need this. Buying now.
 
is that command going to work for postifix?
 
If any passwords were created for the simple low secure stuff, then one of the places sends an e-mail that says they got hacked. soooo all those are out. and really when they get hacked way to often, each even unsecure location needs a different password, or one hack is access to all unsecure accounts.
 
@ShubhamNishad I don't know, as I don't use postfix. Like I said, just a maybe.
@BenRichards That looks pretty awesome, I may get one!
 
@CanadianLuke Actually I need it for a 3.5" drive so I dunno if it'll work, but I see other products that explicitly state that they do work with 3.5" drives so I might get one of those instead.
 
@Psycogeek Aren't there online password managers, that store your passwords encrypted to the cloud? Either way, I just have my 4 secure passwords, and just add the service name to each one. Works for me
@BenRichards Although I have no proof to go off of, I'd suggest it wouldn't based on other USB SATA hard drive readers I've used
 
@CanadianLuke Yeah. Why wouldn't it though? Power difference?
 
8:19 PM
I believe so.
 
That looks more useful so I'm getting that.
 
@Mokubai Clerk for lawyer , has to have 5-6 different ones , to get gov data , jail data, and court data. Shopping 6-7 of those, secure paypals and e-bay and amazon, and those places. then hospital, and then managing another person.
 
The one I use explicitly says that it needs the external power brick for 3.5" hard drives
 
Oh I see, this site parses it wrong.
nods
 
@BenRichards I used that style (the dock) before, and I've been very satisfied
 
8:22 PM
Then every once in a while, and after reading to many stories about more servers being hacked, all the passwords have to be changed again.
 
There we go. Had to look up the URL encoding for ®
Yeah
 
changing the passwords would be easy, except thanks to the changes in requirements (which can change again between changes) There you are getting the password change itself rejected , because it does not meet the servers requirements. You actually have to test weather your "idea" behind a secure password will even be allowed. By that time your brain is reeling with all the variations of the password, and if the brain should be relied on to sort thorugh that list , it becomes Brute Brain :-)
A few years later after having used 225 total passwords , remembering has gone out the door, and 5 tries (to stop brute force attacks) is barely a start at what is remembered
 
I always do the random password thing. I typically will end up memorizing it after typing it a few times.
Random password generators are one of my favorite "hello world" type programs when I learn a new language.
Recently almost finished one in Visual C++. I want to have it save/load password lists in encrypted format instead of plain text now. :P
 
8:43 PM
I could never remember h4b!HK88nPa , i might eventually get all the charachters correct, but which ones were caps. Actors who remember the entire dialog of a script could pull it off.
The next round of changes i was thinking i would make them look like simple chat phrases , so if it is ever observed in any way , it does not look exactally like what a hacker is looking for.
How many servers are going to allow spaces?
 
Depends on how you do it. I did an anagram that ended up with a ~23 character alphanumeric password for my school password and I still remember it
 
Thats good. IGA1456IMsats (i got a 1456 in my SAT scores)
 
We just lost a tech analyst at our school district, so we had to change keys, and passwords - twice - on each server. The "temp" passwords, I could come up with an easy sentence for. The new permanent passwords, I can't.
 
8:58 PM
Oh wait was that "I had a" 14?? on my? now did i put in my GPA? something ends with an s , oh fuck , wait did i use that in it too? IFckedUpMySat was that it ?
 
nice
 
It was my first foray into Visual C++/GUI applications
I've done GUI before but not in Visual C++. Mainly only in Java or Visual Basic.
I want to learn the GTK toolkit. Starting to work on a linux twitter desktop client.
How do you compile .NET stuff on Linux? Official path for that yet? Or do I have to use Mono?
 
I just acquired a 512MB DDR1 module and a 20GB IDE HDD. I feel so anachronistic.
 
9:15 PM
did it come with a free velociraptor?
 
Well, the HDD was free. I hope there's no velociraptor inside.
But even if there is, it'll be a really, really tiny one
Besides, RA has reported zero dinosaur-related incidents, even when @jokerdino is around.
So I guess I'm safe
 
So what are the plans for it? win98 system? LinuxLite ? or is this to update your cell phone?
Special spot in the Niteroi
 
Bob
9:34 PM
 
They did not want to confuse it with bananas :-)
 
@Bob wow, that's impressive
 
@Bob NONSENSE! That's an abacaxi (ah bah kha shee).
@Psycogeek Huh? Niteroi?
So I found out the overspec'd DDR1 I bought for USD 4 works. The PC boots!
After 6~8 years and tons of dust, it's quite impressive actually
Now I just have to find an IDE cable somewhere
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy 123rf.com/… Fancy rio museum
(actually art)
 
!! s/museum/lousily disguised UFO/
 
9:48 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy @ThatBrazilianGuy 123rf.com/… Fancy rio lousily disguised UFO (source)
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy so are you saying that the web LIES ? or is (eu) portuguese different from what that brazilian guy speaks?
 
pt-pt != pt-br
 
10:12 PM
0
Q: Windows 7 Backup Fails with 0x81000033

Randy StegbauerI am attempting to take my first backup on a new Windows 7 installation. It's failing with the error code 0x81000033. I have already followed the instructions on http://www.pagestart.com/win7br0x8100003301.html, increasing my SystemBoot partition from 300 to 512 MBytes, but that did not fix the...

Crasy people, one makes a backup to keep a windows system working right
How can you use the same system your trying to save :-) to save itself , we already know that didnt work to begin with, that was why we needed the backup :-)
 
10:26 PM
Your friend probably gave you a fake or pirated copy of Windows. This isn't really your fault, but if I got a computer from someone else and it had a non-genuine copy of Windows on it, I would wipe the system and just install Linux on it. If someone gave me a computer with Windows preinstalled, I'd make sure it's genuine Windows before proceeding any further.DragonLord 12 mins ago
I'd never trust a Windows installation from some unfamiliar person or company unless I can confirm that it is genuine and that I can perform a factory reset on it
 
It would take to long to remove all thier malware and viruses first :-)
not to mention programs that are strewn about the system (and in the registry), and will not nessisarily fully uninstall
 
A full system scan with an antimalware tool would then be performed
 
@DragonLord I know a girl who had a friend install Windows on her laptop. She then casually mentioned to me she knows the guy installs keyloggers and cam spy tools to spy on other girls.
And it's not a genuine Windows copy, but I think it's the lesser problem here
 
For soem reason, I got this as a review audit even though I answered the question
 
AV and AM programs can only do what they know already. tons of posts exist on the web at like bleepingComputer and Neo where they already have run all the AVs and all and still not only have that stuff on the computer, but there is often more than one of them.
 
10:41 PM
@BenRichards I just got a Thermaltake BlacX hard drive dock yesterday after my Rosewill enclosure failed—it's been in use for more than three years and now connects only intermittently
The underlying Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 (1 TB) is still going strong
Still using eSATA, so maximum performance is attained
 
> All the self-driving cars currently on the road learn from one another, and each car now collectively possesses 40 years of driving experience. And this technology is still in its infancy.

I say ignore the anecdotes, embrace the data.

I’m ready for our army of Skynet Marshmallow Bumper Bots.
 
25MPH max speed? in california that wouldnt qualify as a car, it would be road kill :-)
 
10:57 PM
mph? I read that as km/h and thought it was kinda a bit too slow
 
Bob
> Over in the languages group, there was a bug that went roughly "IDE fails to beep when build is finished." Nobody can find a copy of the bug any more, it having been archived away ages ago, but one of my colleagues recalls that it went something like this:

Start a build.
Leave office to get a beverage from the kitchen.
Return to office.
Observe that build has finished, but no beep was heard.

One person resolved the bug "Not Repro" because they stood just outside the office and clearly heard the beep, but that led to a debate over how far from the office you needed to be in order to rep
 
We got golf carts on the road doing speed faster than that :-)
The real trick behind self driving cars, would be for them to start on a different plane of existance. Inventing anti-gravity should be the first order of things.
 
11:31 PM
hi
can anyone recommend a software which can enlarge a window to a larger window?
 
@Quonux Windows Explorer
 
lol
i have a window with a fixed resolution on one screen, and want it to be enlarged on another screen (so i see a small one and a big one)
It is a game which I can play fluid enought only with resolution xy, but when i set the gameinternal mode to fullscreen its not realy fullscreen, it has large black boundaries...
found one...gipsysoft.com/zoomplus too laggy :(
 
11:58 PM
Is it okay to empty the Prefetch folder if I'm using an SSD? (SysMain is already disabled.)
 
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