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Bob
12:18 AM
> The Ubuntu forums software was compromised by an external attacker. As a result, the attacker has gained access to read your username, email address and an encrypted copy of your password from the forum database.
-_-
I can't even remember which username I used,
Password was probably md5'd. sigh
 
@Bob I saw that around lunch when trying to troubleshoot an issue... I never signed up though, I feel fine :)
 
Bob
12:35 AM
@CanadianLuke As it turns out, I signed up before starting on SE :P
(can't remember why - I never posted anything!)
wat.
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Q: Find out who's going to buy the croissants

Florian MargaineAt our company, we have a rule: each one of us has to buy the croissants once in a while for everybody. Now we'd like to be a little more regular about this. And last friday, both of us bought the croissants, and some almost went to the bin because there were too many. Hopefully, I sacrificed ...

> off-topic
> too broad
> primarily opinion-based
take your pick :P
(thought it was April Fools day [in July]) for a second...
 
OT, send to SO
Oh, it is...
2
 
@Bob Best answer, piece of paper and gold stars :-) Am i glad i passed 1st grade (where teacher used that method)
 
its binary , hashmark no hashmark, But insecure, suppose randy , the office leech , the guy who you can blame for your yogert missing, keeps adding checkmarks by his name. It would need an encryption system. A plastic overlay with Holes in only specific areas, the encryption overlay is then used to make the marks, any marks that dont line up, you know you have been Hacked.
 
@Bob comments for that are awesome tho
 
@JourneymanGeek in the US after you get info (even Old stuff) via the "Freedom of Information Act" anything important to them is blacked out. A really prime contraversial document will read like . The ---- and ---- was without ------ and then ---- agents who -----.
the rest of the document falls under "National security issues" not republic civillian oversite.
 
1:26 AM
there are a few youtubes where some freedom fighting individual will use the FOIA to gain access to most simple unclassified documents at a local level. (testing freedom) It takes them days of rejections, refusals based on lies, and a lot of whining and protesting on their part. I would think the number of lies and forcability of the rejection would be many times higher at the NSA. A person would have to be pretty dedicated or totally fed-up to even pursue the issue.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Heh.
That's a load of bullshit if I've ever seen one.
 
Bob
1:43 AM
Well, yes, you'd be warped in the head to define a method to behave incongruously to its name. If you had IAlertService.GetAssistance() though, it's behaviour could be to flash a light, sound an alarm, or poke in the eye with a stick. — Scott Langham Nov 4 '08 at 0:05
 
The NSA won't admit anything. And they like that
 
2:06 AM
@Psycogeek, wouldn't an always on top window intercept any mouse click because it's always on top?
 
@MichaelFrank Is it a transparent window?
 
1
Q: mouse right click/left click/scroll don't work in the middle of the screen

ymarI think this might be the weirdest thing I've ever seen a computer do. It's a Windows 7 SP1 machine. When I position the arrow in the middle portion of the screen, nothing I do with the mouse, except moving, has any effect. It means that if a small dialog box pops up, in the middle of the screen,...

 
@Gowtham Because monkeys and bananas. Or something:
500
A: What technical reasons are there to have low maximum password lengths?

Tom LeekTake five chimpanzees. Put them in a big cage. Suspend some bananas from the roof of the cage. Provide the chimpanzees with a stepladder. BUT also add a proximity detector to the bananas, so that when a chimp goes near the banana, water hoses are triggered and the whole cage is thoroughly soaked....

 
Bob
@MichaelFrank Hm.
> HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT OFF AND ON AGAIN?!
(read in a british accent)
 
2:13 AM
I prefer turning it on and then off again.
 
Did you powercycle it?
 
Bob
there, commented.
also, MS on password length:
> Please note our research has shown uniqueness is more important than length
 
The story of the 5 monkeys... Don't see how it applies to that one though
 
Bob
@.@
@CanadianLuke basically, limiting password length is (in that theory) due to convention
 
@Bob I don't understand why it would be though... I understand the technical reason, but still seems ridiculous...
 
Bob
2:20 AM
@CanadianLuke that's the whole point of the story
someone did it. he told someone else to. ad infinitum.
 
No no, I don't understand why the 5 monkeys theory applies there, cause who would have told people down the line to only allow 8
Gah
Sounds better in my head
Just accept it :P
 
Bob
@CanadianLuke read the bit under the horiz line
though, it's unsourced
Is there any evidence that this is indeed the reason? E.g. has anyone actually asked someone who designed a system with a max password length why they did it that way? — LarsH Mar 31 at 1:56
 
@MichaelFrank (Possible hidden window) Yes, and I though you covered that, and gave him tips for discovery of that?
 
Sorry, OCD activated, on other questions now
I'll trust you're right though
 
@Psycogeek Your comment made me think you didn't think there was a hidden window. Not sure what I was thinking... :S
 
Bob
2:28 AM
@MichaelFrank Lots of thinking (or lack thereof) going on in that comment.
 
@MichaelFrank intercept the keyboard , when it is an activated window, block mouse input from reaching behind the hidden (but exisiting) windows on top. in the area that the window resided.
@MichaelFrank I dont know programming or what is possible. but i have seen most stubborn requestors, that wont move (grrr) And ones that can be sort of locked to top. and ones that large parts of them (never all) were transparent.
I have made hidden 1pix windows with utility programs, and they would act just like all 3 of us were saying.
 
Bob
in theory, you could have a TopMost transparent window that automatically activates on mouseover
in practice, that is very very odd
hm. actually, this might not be a case of activation on mouseover
the NoTopMost windows likely still have focus
(hence why the keyboard works)
so, just a TopMost transparent window.
 
@Bob say we had a program that used its own skin for the requester (a resource) and that resource was missing, would it be possible that a legit program ends up like that? just some sort of fixable fail
 
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A: Personal information in messages

Racheet"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." That scene from 2001: A space odyssey is a good example for why this can be a dangerous practice. Beware of anthropomorphising a computer to the point where the user starts ascribing malice to it. Error messages need to be non-personal to avoid the ...

And read the comments too!
 
Bob
@Psycogeek that would be a very odd failure mode.
but I deal mostly with .NET managed programs, where you have to explicitly set transparency.
Win32 API is probably different
 
2:41 AM
@Bob ok
 
Bob
it doesn't sound like anything malicious
 
@Bob doesnt to me either, but that is because he suspects something he has seen over and again. if that was taken out of the puzzel, i might think possible prank. if he said he is in college dorm, and roommate is doing computer 101, they got every prank in the world going there :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek that's why I suggested Spy++
great little utility for finding out what owns a window
 
@Bob thats what he needs, some utility that list all the windows , thier state, and what put it up.
 
Bob
You could also grab a copy of Spy++ and use the Find Window function. Or use WinSpy++ (easier). — Bob 8 mins ago
 
2:51 AM
me i would just use a hammer , Wack a mole :-) kill things one by one until they quit comming up or its game over
 
start killing processes until you get the right one.
 
Bob
(requires .NET 4.0)
just did that really quickly as an example
click the button to hide the window. it should stay on top.
you can close it via the taskbar (didn't bother hiding that)
 
I use a c(something) programmed runinvis, it dissapears everything like a virus. I keep it to myself , some things shouldnt be releaced into the wild :-)
 
Bob
eh, I wasn't going for completely hiding it
just a proof of concept. mimics the described symptoms perfectly
 
@Bob i understood, example of a winder doing the same thing.
 
 
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Bob
4:01 AM
bored...
 
ass sore. . .
 
Bob
o.o
 
4:15 AM
you could go answer that guys question, cause i think your comment covers it, and even put up your example to further the session?
would make a classic answer
classic meaning when the programmers crowd made up SU to get rid of all the simple users who wanted to talk to somone who knew what was going on.
and use thier programming skills to answer more simple questions.
 
4:37 AM
I think I had a similar issue with pidgin
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Q: Windows 7 has an odd idea of what fullscreen is

Journeyman GeekWindows 7 has suddenly decided that when i hit fullscreen, fullscreen refers to only part of the screen (and aerosnap works the same way), and while i can pull windows into the unused bit, i can't have proper full screen (here's a video of what i'm experiencing). While i suspect rebooting will fi...

 
Who fills the kettle up that way?
 
@Paul Wasnt the "rule" to not migrate crap :-) i dont know if it is crap, but he could at least give some background or idea of what the chip is he is trying to interface. gee its not like it is a cyborg sexmachine chip or anything :-)
@MichaelFrank lol, whats a kettle. coffeemaker obsoleted them 20 years ago
 
guys, puu.sh/3KkO3.jpg what happens in letter h.) what happens if process 4 leaves? thus it create a new partition (so there will be 8M free partition), or will it join the 6M free space??
 
4:52 AM
@Psycogeek Not if you want tea. ;3
 
@vvavepacket is this an IQ test? if process 4 leaves there is a 20M free space?
and the 4meg freespace still
 
@Psycogeek For sure, it was a crap question, but all he did as a result of not migrating was repost the crap question
 
@Paul ohh i see the point, the ramifications of the other rule.
Ill run in there and verbally abuse him, and see if he tries THAT again :-)
 
@vvavepacket Surely a-g show what happens. Nothing happens, except the space is freed. Nothing is relocated. The real question is what happens if process 4 stays, and an 8MB process wants to start.
 
@Psycogeek what I mean is, after letter h, will it be a single 14m free partition? or will it become 8 m free partition and 6 m partition sepererately
oh yeah. my fault :)
 
5:06 AM
@vvavepacket Aaah. I see. Well, we can't tell because the behaviour isn't in the previous steps, but logically if the process that occupies the partition is gone, then the partition is gone too, and you have contiguous space free. Otherwise, you'd end up with ever diminishing partitions.
 
thanks Paul
 
5:30 AM
@Paul verbal abuse done :-) I stepped over the line, because it wouldnt have any meaning to me either way . luckily i can delete my comment easily
 
Why won't Steam let me download more than one game at a time? :(
 
@MichaelFrank because 1 million people with 10X connections would cripple the servers and in the long run be worse (less sequential data) ?
 
Except that most ISPs have a cache.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank not mine, AFAIK
 
Or maybe they're the problem... hmm...
 
Bob
5:39 AM
I wouldn't say 'most'
 
'most major'?
 
Bob
nope.
not here, anyway, AFAIK
 
@MichaelFrank then its like the Costco problem. warehouse+ of products , hundreds of people stuck at the check-Out line , because although they could sell them tons of stuff, they wouldnt take thier money fast enough.
 
Bob
6:03 AM
need to check some code. Brb. — Esben Skov Pedersen Mar 12 '12 at 6:39
 
last chat message?
 
i am pretty sure comcast cable here is still using cache for at least some things
when they first started doing it, people reported a lot of problems, stuff not updated, or updating, people couldnt change thier own web pages and see it , etc. they must have a lot of it worked out now.
 
Most of the major ISPs here cache steam content. Probably to increase download speeds.
and also for zero rated data.
 
i supose if they just cached all the porn :-) youtube netflix and major size downloads, and left everything else alone
 
@Psycogeek Heh... where?
 
6:12 AM
@Paul california
 
@Psycogeek I meant where is your comment...
 
@Paul Gone, journeymangeek put in a really nice welcome.
 
@Psycogeek Ah right, cool
Oooh, I wasn't aware of cherokee webserver. Anyone using it?
 
Local paper just posted this on their website
 
Bob
6:53 AM
Someone should tell MS that 3 > 2
 
lol
perhaps it's because of Intel's custom usb host controller
it could be intel's fault too :p
0
Q: Where are the apps getting installed?

GowthamI have a dual SIM mt6589 based Android 4.2.1 phone, and I have no idea where the apps are getting installed. My phone has an Internal SD card(built in), An External SD card and something called Phone Storage(/data ??) Anyway the apps are supposed to be saved to my External SD but they get saved...

 
@Bob argg, I want to get usb3 badly , and I see so many people having problems with it. now you showing me a USB3 that got negotiated to 1.1 augggg :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek I have no idea what its actual rate is. I'm just charging my phone.
Also, they're setting up a new server across the room. Fan sounds like it's about to take flight.
 
@Gowtham, those screenshots are huge. D:
 
@Bob how far does it Hover off the ground?
 
6:59 AM
@MichaelFrank Didn't have the patience to make them small :P
 
Also, I didn't think apps couldn't install to an SD by default. :S
 
It depends on the OEM
That's what I think
anyway
Android devices are too fragmented ...
 
From my experience, it wouldn't be wise for it to work that way. I have <b>non-Google</b> apps on my phone that can't be moved.
 
@MichaelFrank stock OEM apps ?
 
(how do I emphasize something?)
pretend those are working bold tags. :P
 
7:03 AM
lol
 
Nah, just regular 3rd party apps.
For example: Blizzard's Mobile Authenticator. Unmovable. Swiftkey keyboard, unmovable.
Also, apps that have widgets can't usually be moved.
 
Asterisks on either side for bold
 
bold
that's italics! D:
bold
 
bold
 
7:05 AM
@MichaelFrank I thought they were going to fix the apps space problem, ohhh 3 versions ago
 
@Psycogeek Could be, my phone is getting old... Just checked and it's 4.0
 
@MichaelFrank ohh thats old, i am still on 1.6 waiting for the apps space problem to get fixed :-)
 
My fiancé has a 1.6 phone. No possible further upgrades.
 
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Q: Where in the file system are applications installed?

JonasI have installed a few Android applications both with the adb install MyApplication.apk command and via a webserver (like an alternative to Android Market). But where in the Android file system on my phone is the MyApplication.apk file placed? Are applications installed with adb install not plac...

 
I think i am using Bridge mix :-) a mixed up pile of were working on it, that still tastes ok. my icecream sandwich melted
But i want Cake, let them eat cake!
 
7:10 AM
wut?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek just tried with the Lamy
Lamy Blue is 'bluer' than Queen's Food Colouring blue
that one is slightly purplish?
also, the Smiggle nib is finer than Lamy Med. Maybe. Slightly.
 
Do they put a lot of (lets call them) lesser programs locked down, on android cell phones still that you have to root it if you want to remove it?
Because when choosing a phone, One of the reasons i am leaning towards getting a China generic phone, is less branded locked in stuff, and more freedom.
 
@Psycogeek I have a China phone :D
It's super cheap ;p
 
7:26 AM
@Gowtham did you get to add and remove with impunity :-)
 
@Psycogeek nope ;p all phones in india are off contract
so they are really expensive
 
My cell phone service is with ATT, they use the SIM card.
so I can have thier phone, or a so called unlocked anything that takes a sim
@Gowtham and being off contract, does that make them any less or more likely to have branded apps, and Junk that the phone company gets paid to lock into the phone?
 
@Psycogeek No carrier specific apps are present
But then OEM apps are still there
+ McAffe
All Sony phones have McAffe
 
@Gowtham good example, and if you wanted to remove McAffe , easy to do?
 
@Psycogeek mcaffe allowed uninstall, but sony specific shit apps(some were non sony iirc) were installed to /system/app
 
7:37 AM
@Gowtham which phone do you have? i thought sony was japan, even though it could be made in china.
 
@Psycogeek It's a MediaTek's quad core MT6589 based china phone
 
Right that's it predictive text, I've had just about enough of your shirt.
 
MT processors, DHgate, chinagoods etc, phones designed and made in china, is the type i was referring to.
 
Bob
@Hennes finished CB yet?
 
Nope. It is still idling.
 
7:41 AM
@Psycogeek If you consider phones made in China, then you are talking about 90% of the phones on the planet ;p
 
Went o two job agencies. Copied and deposited papers for the bloody local burocracy. Browsed the web.... lots of things done, but no CB
ON the bright side, CB is idling and I am slowly climbing in HP. (742 now)
I just wish the game had a 'un-turbo'-mode where everything was slower or turn based.
 
@Gowtham hey cool, that is very much like the type of phone i would buy if i get a "china" phone
 
Bob
@Hennes which quest are you up to?
I've finished the last quest; only had about 600 HP by the end
 
@Psycogeek Make sure sources are available before getting a china phone, mediatek does not release sources and there is no android source available for mt6589
So ROMs like CM will not have dual sim support
 
@Gowtham what ammount of internal flash memory did you get in yours? If you were out in Full sunlight , and do not block the sun, can you see a little, or not even enough to dial?
 
7:46 AM
Also Stock Mediatek rom is similar to stock google one
except mediatek uses custom libraries
 
@Gowtham you mean for firmware updating? Ohhh i almost forgot how hard it is to get support.
 
@Psycogeek If I set the brightness to max, I can see enough
@Psycogeek It's impossible to brick China phones tho ;p
 
@Gowtham That's because you dont have a soldering gun :-)
 
@Psycogeek They update android promptly tho
@Psycogeek Oh I have one ;p
 
Bob
that's another thing about Nokia phones
somehow, they always perform excellently in sunlight
 
7:48 AM
I don;t like to mess around with expensive stuff tho
And getting board info on Chinese phones = impossible :P
 
Bob
@Gowtham easier than iphones
at least they don't actively try to hide it
 
@Gowtham back at firmware updates, with yours were there any really problematic bugs? and did you aquire any firmware updates?
 
I got an update from 4.1.2 to 4.2.1
 
I am still waiting for Hell.
 
No security patches tho
 
7:51 AM
@Bob might try that once my HOD fill is empty
 
@Psycogeek nope
 
I looked around, count the imp. Notice I am dead already.
I restart, look at the wall and its char. And notice I am dead already
I restart, have no focus, click in the windows to get focus and notice I am dead already.
 
MT6589 is a top notch SoC, Sony recently released Xperia C with it
And Motorola D also has it and a lenovo phone too
@Psycogeek I used Xposed to fix the dual key bug :P :D
 
I restart, evade the imps, get to the wall. Check the HPs do see if I take damage. (And discover I have been teleported back to the beginningof the screen and that I am dead already)
I notice a trend here.
I think I need a slower computer to play the game on.
 
@Hennes LOL
 
Bob
7:53 AM
@JourneymanGeek oh, I meant I tried writing with it
no food colouring going in there (for now)
 
@Gowtham and xposed is hacking tool or rooting tool?
 
Also my phone doesn't heat up much, play a heavy game for 5 mins in Xperia Z and it's real hot, on my phone however it's not that bad
 
Bob
@Hennes want some tips? it's perfectly possible on a fast computer :P
 
It's the new thing !!
 
@Bob: oh, what are you using now?
and don't forget ink colours vary with pens
 
Bob
7:55 AM
@JourneymanGeek just the Lamy Blue that came with it
 
@Gowtham Could it be cooler because splitting a single threaded game across 4 cores, instead of 2, you have 4 cores barely working?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek not sure how to test that :P
 
Bob
@Psycogeek You can't 'split a single-threaded' anything
 
@Bob: I've not used my lamy cartridge yet ;p
but I've switched around inks on the platinum rivieres
 
Bob
7:56 AM
not without access to the program code, and then only if it can be parallelised
 
@Psycogeek Xperia Z is quad core
 
@Bob how would i say that correct then? when a non multithreaded program has work going on in each core?
 
Bob
@Psycogeek it's not possible.
multiple cores can only be used by programs specifically designed to use them
the operating system could decide to run different programs on different cores, but you cannot run a single program on more cores than it's designed to.
multithreading applications isn't easy. you can't just say "run on 4 cores!"
 
@Bob not how it works here.
 
Also mediatek uses some kind of dyanmic throttling program to reduce temperature, it does it's job very well
 
Bob
8:00 AM
you have to deal with the fact that it's no longer running sequentially (so, need to guarantee something is in the state that you need it to be)
and you have to deal with sharing variables, etc.
(it's a lot more complex than I have time to explain)
some things can only be run one after another
 
A simple analogy would be sharing a task over four employees.
Sometimes you can give each part of the work and things will get done 4 times faster.
However if the job is 'drive from A to B' then you will not gain any speed by putting four people in the car. ONly one can drive and steer.
 
@Bob Ok but when the single threaded program goes to use the cpu over and over again, "each time" it goes to use the cpu it does not use the same core
 
Or maybe more accurate, painting a room.
You can have several people tear the old wall paper from a room... assuming they all fit in the room, assuming there are tools for all of them. Making sure they do not bump into each other. And with enough walls (paralele part) all can paint a part on their own.
 
Unless it is restricted to that core
 
That is analoguous (?) to a single person driving. I do not care which of the four if driving (which core is used), but the car is on a single track.
 
8:05 AM
@Hennes yep that is how it works here
 
Changing drivers might even slow it down (due to less cache hits)
 
so in a Performance monitor 4 cores flatlining to 25% usage , is a multithreaded app that sucks :-)
Or a single threaded app that doesnt give a crap which core it uses?
 
Looks like MediaTek is going to launch a octacore cpu
ooh
No wonder any CPU core disabler didn't work
 
8:24 AM
at 25% on a quad core it is almost always a single threaded prog
 
@Gowtham the solution to runtime for portable devices is "Da big Fat battery" :-)
 
I must remember not to approve edits but alway to use 'improve'
Otherwise you can not correct any errors you later find.
 
@Hennes that is what i figured. but now that bob brought up that no single threaded app splits itself across the cores. . . I have always had a hard time explaining, that 4 cores being "applied" by a program does not make it multithreaded, and that 25% usage on each, is not good utalisation of the cores, and not an app that doesnt need cpu.
 
....
Thats so many kinds of horrid
especially since thats a moray eel, and there's a place called cummingston in moray.
friend of mine who lives around there was a teeny weeny bit miffed that I sniggered every time she said cummingston
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8:37 AM
@JourneymanGeek lol
 
@Hennes to me a program that pushes 4 cores to 25% is (eerrrrrr) running at 100%, it is using the full capability OF one core. Again, poor explaination. But it is doing that on 4 cores.
see, When duels and quads first came out, people would misinterpret , only using 25%, the program is not "cpu bound" speeding up the processor would not help it. WHEN, stuck with single threaded, that is Exactally what it does need. not more cores but more speed.
 
It probably is running flat out on one core. It could run part of the time on different cores, but today's scheduling algorithmes and turbo boots make it more efficient (and thus more likely if you have a good scheduler) to run it on one core.
 
@Hennes is the "processor scheduling" handled by the OS? I remember MS saying they improved that with win7, although in neither single threaded, or multi-threaded did i notice any actual changes in behavior, or real difference in speed.
 
Yes, the OS run the scheduler.
With windows it is fixed. In FreeBSD you can actually select which scheduler is to be used and there are a lot of holy wars over which one is better.
And both are better for some tasks, so there is plenty fuel to keep the debate reoccurring.
 
@Hennes the programmer can select the scheduler in FreeBSD , or the user ?
 
8:50 AM
During kernel compilation time
 
@Hennes take this 25% thing on 4. the processor scheduler is it "splitting the workload" across the 4 cores, of a single threaded app. and/or the single threaded apps work is comming in easily split chunks?
 
No splitting. Think of it like a book. You can only read a book with a single person (well, without messing up the story)
I can read the story from the book to you, as fast as I can read and pronounce it.
Or I could pass the book around along four people.
But you are still reading a single book, and you are limited by the single linear story in the book.
 
but you almost decribed multithreaded. cause if i give it to 4 people, they could potentially read it at 100% each :-)
@Hennes I have tested a few times, affinity, stuffing the program on one core, with little else to conflict with it, and the dude passing out the books and retrieving the results is doing a good job of stuffing it back together :-)
 
Bob
9:08 AM
@JourneymanGeek yay those 50 cartridges arrived
@Psycogeek only one can read it at a time
and you lose time by passing it around
you can only multitask when all tasks are independent of each other
if one task depends on another one to finish first, then it must wait, and can only run once the other finishes
 
@Bob One can read it at a time, that is the key. But you guys keep saying it isnt split.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek that's because it isn't split
it's only running on one at a time
you aren't ripping out chapters and sharing them at the same time
 
@Bob parts of it are processed on different cores
 
Bob
@Psycogeek but if they only run one after another, then there is no benefit
all that happens is you waste time switching
that's one of the first things drummed into the head of any programmer when learning multithreading
 
If Alice reads page 1,
and then Bob read page 2,
then Charly read page 3,
Danielle reads page 4, ...
all sequentially. None at the same time
You then have 4 people, busy 1/4th of the time
And each reading as fast as possible during that 1/4th time slice
 
Bob
9:12 AM
if the task cannot be parallelised, chucking it on multiple threads (with each thread waiting on another one to finish its part) at best will do nothing.
worse, it can waste time
worst case, it'll end up in a deadlock and never complete (that's when a is waiting on b which is waiting on a, which can never complete)
@Hennes and wasting time passing it around
you waste programmer time and execution time by multithreading needlessly
@Hennes 25% without a view of individual cores more often means an average of 25%. the vast majority of the time, that means 100% on one core and 0% on the other three.
 
Yup, due to scheduling.
When going from one CPU (in ye days of your when one CPU had one core) going from single to dual sockets gave you about 80% performance gain. (Or 20% loss from doubling)
ROUGH AVERAGE NUMBER
 
I got both of those explainations. i got a eureaka! . it is scheduled across the 4 processors?
So i replace this abhored word split, because that seems to define paralellism in professor speak
crap, i mean 4 cores.
 
grrr, For some reason APKTool does the extract the smali files from mediatek's apps -_-
apparently updates are provided through these guys redbend.com
 
9:35 AM
@Gowtham So you found firmware? I have seen before where china phone users pointed to some odd site for specific firmware. it was not very well described.
 
@Psycogeek What do you mean by firmware ?
The stock flashable OS files ?
 
yes
the locked down part you have to "flash" to the phone
 
Someone one hacked into the Micromax's ftp server and got all the files
There they are
All the needed tools are available too :P :D
 
I have hacked even firmware before, and rooted, but only needing to do it once just for me, there has to be something i am desperate to need or fix
@Gowtham a good users forum who has tested the stuff comes in handy too. a good reason to get the china phone that many many others have
 
@Psycogeek XDA has everything you need for any phone
 
9:41 AM
@Gowtham And "hacked" of course means, he tried "admin/password" and got in
 
well yes -_-
It does fit the def of hack
 
loooool
 
@Gowtham XDA , has always looked like programmers location, not idiot trying to get rid of some stupid icon , or other dumb OCD stuff that drives me up the wall
 
@Psycogeek android.se ?
 
Android problems?
 
9:52 AM
@MichaelFrank I was asking gowtham, how to get all that support , and updates, and forum for a "generic" type china phone.
That was one sweet thing about the nokia, via Att branded. it could update through the carrier. Of course i waited 2 years and it never did, and finnaly had to get it online :-)
Getting a good branded phone is like buying a Dell, they are always there for you . . . but who cares :-)
 

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