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12:00 AM
Lifetime renting, but still. I don't actually own any of the games in my steam library.
 
By that regard, you also don't own any software you didn't write. You license it
But the Steam DRM is acceptable (most of the time)
 
12:12 AM
@CanadianLuke I think I own my game cd-roms in the same sense I own my books. I own the copies and can read anywhere I want, in any way I want, as many times I want, and lend to as many people as I want.
 
superuser.com/questions/623864/… that would suck. finnaly find the part, wait for it to arrive, dissasemble, install . . . fail
 
@CanadianLuke I'd really hate to lose my account, however.
@Psycogeek Tell me about it. Ordered a new touch sensor for my Android. Installed it myself. It registers random dozends of touches per second.
 
I ordered a "digitiser" (the touch part) for a broken android, got it in the wiring doesnt line up. but i knew it was a china clone pos
 
@Psycogeek If I hadn't ordered a chinese clone I'd have to pay for the digitizer what I paid for the used phone itself =/
 
12:18 AM
@ruda.almeida I own a couple disks of games, and I backup all my games to my server as well. I like companies that realize you'll install more then once, on more then one different system, and still let you play. Blizzard is great about that (Diablo 2)
 
@ruda.almeida ohh :-)
 
@Psycogeek But maybe it was a bad idea :(
 
Anyways, I gotta run downtown to pick up Mini-Me (AKA my son), I'll talk to you guys tomorrow
 
yea archos wanted $200 for a battery swapping on an internal battery. DIY battery was $17 took 30 min.
 
Bye, I'm going play some of those games instead of talking about them ;-P
 
12:22 AM
they would probably charge the same to fix the touch, making the total fix $400 , cool if i had not bought it (used) for only $75
 
Bob
arggggh
just encountered this: drupal.org/node/1579806
basically:
    User requests password
    User uses emailed link to login
    User clicks edit to set a new password
    User is asked for the Current password
 
is the e-mail login temporary password ?
 
Bob
@Psycogeek it's a one-click login
you click the link, and it's one use
 
@Bob i wonder using what method.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek just a link that can be used only once
 
12:41 AM
i mean if the link is a temp password, or passing a temp password, then the link might have the temp password, and then you feed it that as the current.
but of coure i am overthinking how the process might work
 
1:01 AM
they had the problem for more than a year. it looks sorta like the e-mail link just dumps them on a Normal change password screen. but i guess 5 years ago they changed (ahhh) they changed the normal password change screen to require a seconday log-in or re-verification. under the idea of public use computers
 
@nhinkle at least try to help me you little bitch, im asking for a function that can store code for later use like #define in C — Gunr Jesra 10 mins ago
I wish someone would write a protocol for slapping someone with a trout over the internet.
 
1:28 AM
I saw that, interesting comment
 
Bob
1:44 AM
@Psycogeek well, the password is not changed until the user changes it
the link just contains a temporary identifier to allow login. it's independent of the password
@Psycogeek yea, more or less
can't be bothered hunting down the reset php file
I'll just install that module that prompts to reset password earlier
 
@Bob the patch thing? So you are the Admin, not the user that got stuck, i was wondering that.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek yea, I'm setting up a site
@JourneymanGeek ...
 
2:36 AM
thats an actual answer
I remember flagging that
 
@JourneymanGeek oh so sex IS a redhat version?
 
3:16 AM
Morning
 
Bob
3:42 AM
@Bob Spy++ gives an error message on start, and WinSpy++ doesn't seem to be working properly (the specifications don't include Win7 which could be the cause) — ymar 11 hours ago
yes??
"error message"
The text of the message would be really helpful.
 
@Bob sometimes it just makes you wonder hmmm. . . why at MS they just tell everyone to reinstall :-)
Ok now i dont want a HTC android phone :-) superuser.com/questions/623912/…
 
It is such a guilty pleasure to get a badge for a closed question
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A: Is keeping a KeePass file in Dropbox safe?

PaulThe question here is not whether you trust dropbox, but whether you trust keypass. If your password vault gives up its secrets when someone else gets hold of it, then you will want to find something else. Keypass uses AES-256 for encryption, which remains the de facto standard, and SHA-256 to c...

 
How does the NSA know what e-mails to look at out of the 400million a day they get? the ones using Encryption :-)
How does the NSA gain access to backdoors? US intelegence budget is 75Billion, a mere drop in the bucket 1mill will open a door :-)
Who knew about the NSA spying program PRISM? Everyone, we just didnt know it was called prism :-)
 
Are you just splitting hairs... ehm, I mean splitting colours ?
 
lol
 
Bob
4:31 AM
@Psycogeek battery-backed memory? volatile memory?
eurm. I'm quite sure phones use nonvolatile memory.
 
@Bob and the battery is removable
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Proper encryption is indistinguishable from random noise. Though, you can often find it by looking at random noise :P
@Psycogeek I have never seen a phone lose data on power loss.
Never.
I swap batteries quite often in all my phones.
Just about nothing these days is permanently stored on volatile memory. Nonvolatile is cheap.
If they do use a ramdisk or similar, it's almost always backed by nonvolatile.
 
most of my portables will have to be "reset" if i lose all power, BUT they do use volitile and have a locked in internal battery
 
Bob
@Psycogeek what 'portables'?
it didn't happen with my nokia bricks
it doesn't happen with any of my smartphones
ditto mp3 players (do people even use them anymore?)
 
@Bob no it shouldnt happen with any of the phones, but they no less have ram.
 
Bob
4:35 AM
@Psycogeek the ram is ram. it's not storage
 
@Bob GPS es PDAs old CE devices
@Bob right, but that wouldnt stop anyone from storing stuff there, stupidly
We can be reasonably assured that it didnt come flying off his flash chips because the battery went low
Also, if a user told me that, i would wonder , did the applications go away, or just your vision of them, the icon, or some front display added
 
Bob
hm. that's possible.
 
if he lost one file for a "home" application, all his "applications" would have dissapeared :-)
 
Bob
I've had icons disappear off my homescreen before
 
This format (Q&A) doesnt really give us the opertunity to explore such things. in a forum instead about 2 pages later, it might get down to what really happens
 
5:00 AM
Just found the Q for what you're talking about. I don't agree with the answer that was given.
 
@MichaelFrank And i was wavering about making the comment too, now it stuck
 
Yea... I've never seen a phone with a final stand mode. Working in retail for almost the last 6 years, I've pretty much seen the rise of smart phones. Not once have I seen a phone with that type of feature.
 
final stand?
 
what is "final stand mode" ? way on the side of the topic, there are some electronic devices that hold power on curcuit for long enough to do a battery change. with a capacitor, or older they would apply a ni-cd battery. both of those rechargable. cameras, video cameras, and PCs have internal lithium to maintain clock
 
You know, like in Call of Duty? Dying on the ground, pull out your pistol for your final stand! :P
 
5:14 AM
@MichaelFrank that trick never works :-) Throw that last grenade as the GAME OVER comes up with an explosion in the background
 
ohhhh
works in borderlands
its called second wind
VERY fun when you end up chaining together a dozen of them
 
Yea, that's the concept.
Jellybean on my phone! ^_^
 
@MichaelFrank does jelly bean have a Stickey mode :-0
 
I dunno, it's flashing now. :P
Fingers crossed I haven't bricked it. :o
rawr it worked!
 
5:32 AM
@JourneymanGeek bash.org comment...
 
Bob
5:53 AM
@MichaelFrank Phones can run to empty. But, since the storage is pretty much universally nonvolatile, there is no such thing as clearing storage on empty.
In fact, that would use significantly more power.
I guess the 'concept' is that it's draining the 'secondary' battery that power the storage. Problem is, that doesn't exist.
Methinks people are confusing CMOS memory (which, incidentally, is also nonvolatile no. Mostly.w).
The only reason for volatile CMOS memory is so you can reset it in case of bricking.
 
6:50 AM
hey, would anyone know if the system requirements for different editions of windows 7 are different? Can I install Windows 7 ultimate on a netbook running Windows 7 starter?
 
@Urban like the base kernal, and the programs that are (or not) supplied, and the services that are (or not) available, are all basically the same. The space required for installation could vary by a large ammount.
 
Hi there. i want to ask a question about NTFS file system. should i ask it there or on stackoverflow ?
 
Hmm, thanks @Psycogeek
 
@Urban wait, scratch that
 
scratches
 
6:56 AM
is starter a netbook only thing?
 
thats what I was wondering.
Wiki says "This edition is available pre-installed on computers, especially netbooks"
 
areo would be a big change, but it can be turned off
 
Yes exactly what I was considering. That should be enough to counter the low RAM.
 
@Urban ram, how low? cause almost "embedded" trimmed down windows systems take far less ram. while people say all that stuff running, like server stuff and extra services needed for features does not slow down the computer. When that stuff is shut off or removed the ram is freed up.
and i cant say its faster, because somone will correct me :-)
 
well the ram is 1 gb
intel atom processor at 1.66ghz
 
7:03 AM
@Urban atom might have 1.66g but it is a weak processor in other areas. mobile processors cant really be compared with desktop ones.
what item do you want/need that the starter doesnt have? (besides everything:-)
 
Hehe, well I was planning on formatting that netbook, and since I already had an original Windows 7 ultimate with me (but not the starter) I was considering installing it.
 
@Urban: yes
BUT systems with starter should probably handle the full version
 
@Urban what is the storage space on it?
 
Bob
@Psycogeek depends which atom
there's actually atoms for desktops and IIRC one for servers
the first-gen atoms were complete crap, though
 
@Bob the mobile one :-)
 
7:10 AM
@Psycogeek i see 330 gbs
 
@Urban great
 
I guess I'll go ahead and try installing ultimate. See what happens. Thanks a lot guys.
 
@Urban i just point out that the whole frilling DVD gets installed with win7, the bigger the package of junk, the larger the space it takes. Trimming down services, using things like BlackVipers data, could get you back to trimmed down. and 2gig is a good start for win7, but shut off the stuff you dont need, and i could get it to run good on 1
 
@Psycogeek yea I'll try shutting services and aero. Thanks.
 
7:43 AM
@Bob I think my first windows 7 box had the single core 1.6ghz atom ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Ditto. It was that school netbook.
 
@Psycogeek Wud up?
 
Bob
Some idiot thought putting CS4 on there was a good idea.
 
mini ITX system so I had all of 2gb of desktop type ram
 
Bob
That netbook now runs reasonably fast with OpenSUSE on it.
 
7:45 AM
@Bob And it did not have SSD of course?
 
I need to dust off the old girl at some point
 
@Boris_yo late night snack
 
but we have enough systems as is
 
@Psycogeek ...makes you fat
 
@Boris_yo only sees to be making my ass fat, oh wait its the computer doing that
 
7:46 AM
@Psycogeek You mean Windows Ultimate installs a lot of junk?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo No it didn't have a bloody SSD.
it was a freaking first-gen atom
the HDD was not the problem.
 
@Bob Generally I have noticed that you are not of so great opinion about SSDs...
@Bob Isn't it a dual core 1.66GHz?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo Because you keep telling me to cram it into every piece of kit, no matter how useless.
Like all hardware, it has its uses. It just happens to be specialised enough to be useless in the majority of cases (i.e. there are better ways)
 
@Boris_yo the more gradiose the name sounds, the more programs come with it. but really it isnt that much more than say "Pro"
 
7:50 AM
@Bob Oh. Sup you would say that 16GB of RAM machine wouldn't need such hardware?
 
@Bob: I was half considering putting a SSD with the old laptop IDE interface into my dad's old laptop
then decided it wasn't worth it ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Wud up man? Sorry I meant dawg.
 
Bob
I'm saying: 1. get more ram 2. consider a small SSD as a cache
both are far more effective than trying to cram a large SSD in, for most home uses
 
@JourneymanGeek It would really be better if dad had AHCI Sata interface.
@Bob You mean hybrid drive?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo first-gen atom
HT, IIRC.
@Boris_yo that is one form of SSD caching, yes
 
7:52 AM
@Bob But the larger SSD is, the more durable it is.
 
Bob
desktop Intel chipsets support a SSD cache out of the box, now
@Boris_yo as a cache, the durability does not matter
you wouldn't lose your data anyway
 
@Bob On SSD part of the drive or HDD?
@Bob SSD cache is a feature? Does that mean without it SSDs won't work well?
@Psycogeek But it is different to bloatware?
 
Bob
SSD caching means all data is stored on the HDD
the more commonly accessed data is temporarily stores on the SSD
you get far more space, and your random access speed is about as good as a plain SSD
caching algorithms are quite good now. your computer is far better at knowing what is often used than you are, most of the time
 
And operating system? Is it installed and stored on Intel cache?
 
@Boris_yo It isnt bloatware if you need it, but it certannly is if the 3rd party replacement is smaller, faster, more intuitive, does everything you want better.
@Boris_yo cache: is always a "buffer" to something, not a storage location in itself. Buffer: A device or area used to store data temporarily and deliver it at a rate different from that at which it was received.
 
8:10 AM
@Psycogeek But it all depends on CD-key because it decides what edition of Windows gets installed?
@Psycogeek Oh okay so it turns SSD to kind of RAM drive I.e cache device?
@Gowtham Hallo Catman from Gowtham City
 
@Boris_yo I dont know if all the DVDs for win7 are the same or not and the key is what sets the install
 
Bob
@Boris_yo it's installed on the HDD
as I said, the cache system automatically manages which are more commonly accessed
not all OS files are accessed frequently
and, honestly, who cares about fast startup? who cares if it takes an extra minute to turn your computer on, once?
(if the computer is restarted often enough, presumably the caching system would detect that the startup files are accessed a lot. otherwise, it would be other files used while it's on)
@Boris_yo similar to a RAM cache, but more space and could be useful across restarts/at startup
RAM caches start cold
(and you sacrifics RAM space)
 
@Bob funny thing I care about startup times when i am installing, and have to reboot 50,000 times, and none of thier speedups are doing chit by then. During all the installing and arranging i probably boot more then than in 2years
 
Bob
best thing to do is 1. have enough RAM to never need paging, and 2. have a SSD cache (or even more RAM) with a HDD backing
@JourneymanGeek Lamy one's different :(
 
@Bob How to know how much RAM is enough to never need paging?
 
Bob
8:21 AM
@Boris_yo depends what you run
each VM I run must allocate all VM memory within physical RAM, so, at 2 GB per VM, that really eats it up quickly
 
I don't run VMs. I run Chrome with many open tabs which soon starts to leak memory and I am forced to close and restart Chrome. I never restart system and always use Standby so maybe that is the culprit of soon memory leak. I also run IE or Firefox in parallel.
@flote Hello. What's up?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo yea, I haven't restarted in months
FF is on 2.1 GB right now.
13 windows.
1491 tabs on the main window.
 
8:39 AM
@Bob you got 1491 tabs open? what program do you use to sort that out :-)
 
@Bob What is the plugin you use that allows you to keep so many tabs open without loading them to RAM?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo I don't use a plugin for that
most are unloaded. I estimate maybe 50-60 loaded tabs.
(Firefox only loads the tabs you click on since the last restart)
 
@Bob then thier just favorites :-)
my Dog tried to eat my late night snack
 
Bob
o.o
 
@Psycogeek What?
@Psycogeek Dog is not happy with his current food quality?
 
8:49 AM
@Boris_yo ௵ he doesnt have a fat ass either :-)
 
Bob
O.O
 
i have 18 tabs open and 300k used, wait, 310, 315, 340 ok well this browser leaks too
 
What's the point of not closing tabs once you "used" them ?
 
oops, that should be 300,000K
@Kwaio your car is used right? you dont thow it away ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
@Psycogeek You can't bookmark a car. :P
 
9:03 AM
Because i know i will use it again. Plus throwing it away would mean not being able to recover it
 
Well i have some open as "referance" but most of them it is just eaiser to mass close. I cant hit the "close all but active" because some of them i want to stay open
 
My browser's addres bar can easily enough find a page I openned once based on a few keywords. If i ever need it again i'll reopen it.
it's like not cleaning your house/clothes because you'll eventually make it/them dirty again...
Or not keeping your workshop tidy because you may neeed this or that tool again later
 
@Kwaio or putting them on hangars, when they are going to be on the floor again later :-)
@Kwaio nobody get anything done in a tidy workshop, to afraid to make a mess again.
 
Well everyone's his way, I suppose
 
@somequixotic @boris I created the site, yes but majority of the posts are submissions from others
 
9:09 AM
I work more efficiently when i know at any time where is each tool and i have room to work on.
 
@Kwaio my tools are right there where i left em :-)
Thats what Girlfriends are for, you work on her car, she towels off the sockets
 
9:22 AM
@Kwaio so how do you feel about the android system leaving most programs running, even after the person "closes" them? And win8 was headed into adopting that method too?
For a windows system, most of that program would still be in cache anyways, and open in less than a second.
 
@Psycogeek Indeed i don't feel comfortable about this.
 
So, today I'm a moderator for 1 year
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And @slhck has handled twice as many flags as I did...
 
@OliverSalzburg that it man, i am calling for "early elections" ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
@Boris_yo sry, I didn't see your greeting before.
Just discovered this place :)
 
@OliverSalzburg They need another moderator, just to handle Karan's flags (shhh)
 
9:36 AM
@Psycogeek We have pretty good flag handling times actually.
 
@OliverSalzburg dont see any spam here, and is it true that any anonomouse person with a keyboard and a net connection can do a Q or an A?
 
@Psycogeek Yes
 
@OliverSalzburg so how did you get to be a mod? sombody died? (if they did my condolances to the family, if they didnt , that was a joke)
 
@Kwaio To slowly make a mess with tabs. If you keep having tabs opened, they will eventually get top the point of thousands and then it will be harder to sort that mess out. Ask @Bob with his 1000 tabs.
 
@Psycogeek There were elections
 
9:42 AM
@OliverSalzburg For president! I mean moderator.
 
@OliverSalzburg oh, dont suppose they counted the mail in ballots :-)
Oh wait its still here on my desk
 
@Psycogeek Doesn't matter because you voted in the official way anway
 
@OliverSalzburg by attrition?
 
@OliverSalzburg Means I obviously have half as much real life as you :(
 
9:47 AM
@OliverSalzburg cool, but i thought i only voted the last time
and i didnt vote 2 times? i am so confused
 
@oli
damn fail.
@OliverSalzburg : What program do you use to monitor per-process bandwidth usage ?
I use Netlimiter, but i'm in despair of finding an open-source equivalent
 
@Bob This article assumes that OS can be put on cache position: pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/…
 
@Kwaio Right now, nothing. I used to use NetLimiter, but it caused BSODs
 
Bob
@Sathya Without context, I thought you meant you created Super User (jokingly)
 
@Kwaio I am familiar with it but I think there's firewall that allows you such monitoring. Agnitum was it's name?
 
Bob
9:53 AM
@Boris_yo No it doesn't.
It compares caching with directly installing on the SSD.
 
@OliverSalzburg For me it caused memory persistent exceptions back on Windows XP.
 
@Boris_yo After their support didn't even answer any of my emails, I'm done with their product :P
 
@Bob Ah I thought it another way.
@OliverSalzburg Does their support exist at all?
 
@Boris_yo No idea, as they never replied
 
@OliverSalzburg Seems like their business is on auto-pilot?
 
10:20 AM
anyone good with software raid on linux?
 
@flote I know enough to have broken the one in my server a couple of times and got it working again ;D
 
human DNA contains 23 pairs of chromosomes?
 
@OliverSalzburg hehe. well the upgrade to 13.04 failed, and now I need to mount it to be able to chroot into it and try to fix it. do I need to create a new array and attach the drives or is there an array already which I can assemble?
 
Bob
@flote ubuntu upgrading sucks
 
@flote From what I remember, if you mdadm --assemble, the default is for it to look for devices itself
 
10:27 AM
yeah tell me about it. fails more than it works :(
@OliverSalzburg alright I'll try that. it's pretty risk free, right? :p
 
Creating a new array also works if you get the order of devices right
@flote Yes
 
hmm, it says "an md device must be given in this mode" that means there is no array and I need to create one, right?
 
Well, mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
Something like that I guess
It would be much easier if I turned on my server and checked my scripts :P
 
hehe. yeah, it's a bitch finding answers with the ubuntu forums down. I guess I could read cached copies tho
 
Bob
@flote archive.org?
 
10:34 AM
@Bob w00t, thanks
 
@Bob: as is the platinum
 
Bob
@flote my pen is leaking the tiniest bit
also, those $2 bladders of ink arrived
they actually come in syringes o.o
 
the platinum cartridges are pretty huge
o0
 
Bob
but, I don't even need them now :\
got more food colouring than I can use in a decade
 
Bob
10:36 AM
perhaps I should use some on food
 
lol
maybe
 
10:57 AM
-_-
 
Does anyone here use avast ?
 
nope
I could probably spin up a VM if you want
 
nevermind ... I will be visiting my friend today and he runs avast
 
@Gowtham: won't take long
I have this ISO my school uses with installs very fast
 
11:00 AM
ooh forensics guy :P :d
well okay then :D
 
Bob
@Gowtham Definitely legit. (/s)
 
@Bob: Very realistic in that case - a biker installed it on the suspect system ;p
(and yes, my report included that "the suspect system appears to be using a non standard varient of windows, which might have been <obtained from men in eyepatches>)
there, up
@Gowtham: before I install avast, what should I be looking for?
avast
oops
 
@OliverSalzburg (@Bob) thanks for the help before. I'm off to lunch. bbl
 
yup
about 5 minutes to get a fresh VM from scratch
@Gowtham: ping
 
11:14 AM
sorry
@JourneymanGeek If the system process does access any file at all
A simple test is to open up a media player and open a mp3
crap college in 3 days :(
 
Oh. It's someones birthday today \o/
 
@OliverSalzburg who o0 ?
 
@Gowtham I'm not telling. Maybe it's supposed to be secret
 
ahh ok
lol
@OliverSalzburg: if it was it wouldn't be on G+
;p
@Gowtham: what do you use?
spotify?
 
11:24 AM
yes
But the system process also seems to be opening files that ff needs
 
and you're checking this with resource monitor?
oh fuckbunnies.
3
resource monitor dosen't work on this
 
process hacker 2
 
just a moment then
 
okay :)
 
got it
yeah, system does seem to be opening stuff in the spotify folder
 
11:32 AM
without avast or with it ?
 
with it
one moment
let me roll back, then reinstall spotify and process hacker to check
 
ah then I don't have to scan my computer ;p
 
-1
A: Can I recharge a cell phone battery using USB?

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'nuff said.
 
Hum. someone's bot has crashed.
 
I nearly flagged that "catlike typing detected"
 
11:35 AM
Well... why not ? ^^
Maybe it's really a cat
I need a cat.
 
Bob
@Kwaio "I should buy a cat"
 
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Never buy when you can adopt >_>
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek It was a reference.
 
ahh ;p
so is catlike typing detected ;p
 
If i were to take a cat, i would buy it from local refuge, the donation includes vaccination, sterilization and fees it took to care of it since it was found.
 
11:39 AM
course, dogs are naturally superior.
 
@Gowtham: wouldn't put it past them :/
 
@JourneymanGeek :P :P
 
Are they talking about Certificate authority aster CA private keys ?
 
@Kwaio: wouldn't be suprised if they stored data on their side encrypted
but they seem to mean SSL private keys
 
Bob
11:49 AM
@JourneymanGeek some ice cream just melted on my paper
the puddle is blue and the paper has a white spot now
...I think I'm gonna go buy some bulletproof ink
I wonder what would happen if I mixed it with food dye... hmm..
 
@JourneymanGeek hey, on the drive question. If i pull my (say) seagate, out of a simple plastic external box, would the warrenty on the drive itself become void? superuser.com/questions/624034/blinking-external-hard-drive Because 2 times of getting a drive "replaced" under warrenty, they used the drives OWN date info to determine if it is still valid for the years it was warrented for.
 
@Psycogeek: there's often a sticker that says "warranty void if removed"
Its fine if they remove it themselves, or you are instructed to
its useful to be aware of that possibility - the drive is likely too old to be under warranty ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek But they are just seeing the raw drive, and i am not opening it up?
 
@Psycogeek: if you're not opening it up its fine
 

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