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Bob
Bob
5:00 PM
@JourneymanGeek So, what stats did you want again? Any time ranges? :P
There's 3.163 'score' (up - down votes) per question tagged windows-8, including closed questions
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
:3
 
Bob
Bob
95 closed windows-8 questions o.O
average 1.5 answers per windows-8 question, including closed
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
Ever since I installed Windows 8 I can't virtualize. VirtualBox is giving me "AMD-V is not available." There's not an option in my BIOS to turn it off or on, and it was working just before I installed Windows 8, but booting into Windows 7 doesn't help. Could the boot loader be doing this? Anybody have any ideas? I feel like I'm suffocating without being able to virtualize. o_o
Hyper-V doesn't work either.
 
Bob
Bob
Wait, this can't be right
.. the API reports 723 questions, the site 762
what gives?
is anyone here familiar with the API?
@r.tanner.f you might want to comb your BIOS settings very carefully, this kind of stuff tends to be hidden in the most obscure places possible
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@Bob Combed it thrice and looked in the manual already =\
 
Bob
Bob
5:15 PM
@allquixotic hi there
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
It's a TA880GU3+ btw
 
Bob
Bob
how's the weather?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@r.tanner.f are you using secure boot?
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@allquixotic Not that I know of?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob calm before the storm!!! the weather last night and this morning has been absolutely gorgeous. nary a cloud in the sky, 70 Fahrenheit, no bothersome insects because the frost killed them
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
5:16 PM
@allquixotic Nice. Enjoy before it hits the fan. =D
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
we have about 36 hours until we're inside a ~300 mile wide "tornado" (well not really but it'll be near F0 tornado winds)
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic so, some nice weather to board up the windows, hmm?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
the eye of the hurricane is predicted to come right over my region of Maryland
 
Bob
Bob
yup, boarding time
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
we're going to get hit with the west side of the hurricane first and then the southeast side
at this point, the "alternative" weather models that are predicting a different path of the storm will STILL run the thing right over us.. it's only a question of whether we end up being inside the eye or not
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
5:20 PM
Would be kind of cool to see the eye... are you planning on weathering it or leaving?
 
Bob
Bob
hm, well, don't go out for at least a day after the 'calm' end, then :P
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
we have excellent flood protection here with the geography and storm drains so I'm not leaving unless the governor gives an evacuation order
you evacuate for a hurricane if it's much stronger (category 3 or larger) or if you live on a flood plane or a beach
but not as far inland and above sea level as we are
it's expected to make landfall as a strong category 1
but definitely not worse than a low end category 2
@r.tanner.f not sure why AMD-V isn't supported but you could fire up CPU-Z and take a low level peek
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@allquixotic Hmm, what am I looking for?
 
avirk
avirk
after trying of three hours I could be able to enter in ROOT access :P
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@r.tanner.f just look for info about the instructions you have available on your cpu
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
5:29 PM
 
avirk
avirk
0
A: How to add the Windows defender(MS essential) in Windows explorer right click menu to scan a particular drive/folder on demand?

avirkOk after digging it some more I able to add it in the drives and folders right click menu but there is still I need to add it with all file types as well but no success yet. here are the keys which will let you add it in the right click menu Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_C...

 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@r.tanner.f notice AMD-V isn't listed... you said you checked your BIOS but it must be getting disabled by the operating system
see if your cpu has any settings in device manager
 
avirk
avirk
any one has idea how to enable it for all file types?
 
Bob
Bob
looks like Win8 has joined the list of public BSoDs
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
O_o started working all of the sudden
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
5:50 PM
I love giving feedback!
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
?
 
avirk
avirk
@OliverSalzburg ?
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
Text was too long ;P
It's rare that a support ticket leaves me with such anger :P
It's for Box Sync, the desktop sync application for yet another file sync service
 
avirk
avirk
have any idea how to add it for all type file?
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@OliverSalzburg Really? I get that kind of crap all the time...
 
avirk
avirk
5:53 PM
@OliverSalzburg do you have any idea about that link?
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
Although I do call Dell on a regular basis =\
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
@avirk Still haven't gotten around to read that question. Will do later :)
@r.tanner.f Well, support tickets that I opened
If people want support from me, that always makes me angry :D
Which is why I give volunteer support on Super User in my spare time, obviously ;P
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
6:05 PM
Hey guys - I was looking at upgrading to Windows 8. I wasn't totally sure though. It says here some of my apps will be incompatible... Is there any chance they might run still?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@SimonSheehan of course there's a chance, particularly if the vendor released a patch that MSFT isn't aware of
sometimes you just have to uninstall them and reinstall
it really depends on an app by app basis though
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@allquixotic Actually good news.... the one thing It said would not work was a driver. But that driver now has a Windows 8 update. booyeah.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
does it depend on special drivers, does it use features that have been removed, etc
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Gonna go out and buy it today I think.
Was just energy management driver. Lenovo has an AWESOME one that helps keep my battery going.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
you don't have to go "out" at all
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
6:08 PM
@allquixotic I want to get out of my house for a bit... I like having the physical media :p
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
just download the upgrade assistant and you can buy the online download and optionally have them ship you a CD
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Do you recommend Windows 8 as well?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
Do I recommend it? No, absolutely not. I think it's the worst piece of shit on Earth. :D
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Hahaha
I'm very on edge about it.
lmao.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
basically, it failed to upgrade on TWO of my PCs
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
6:11 PM
yikes.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
actually it succeeded on my laptop but then it took over 3 hours to login (without even having the sign-in to Microsoft enabled) and i gave up after that
this morning i tried to login to the "successfully" upgraded windows 8 on my ThinkPad T530 and it just sat there and spun the little pinwheel for 3 hours
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
wow
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
so what i did is, i downloaded Ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop (which actually works because i did a clean install) and completely nuked my laptop's HDD and put Ubuntu 12.10 on it
i've spent about 45 minutes configuring it and it's already exactly how i want it with everything installed
i'm a bit of a domain expert on desktop Linux though so my time amount is a bit low
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
wow, insanity.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
i lost several thousand hours worth of accrued savegames, mods, etc. on my desktop when i had to reformat the windows 7 hdd to put windows 8 clean on it, because windows 8's upgrade failed to rollback when it failed the upgrade, so i was left with an unbootable system
i was THIS close to never going back to windows again, but since my desktop's win 8 works, i'm going to keep it and just use it as a gaming PC
dedicated linux on my laptop though
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
6:14 PM
;/
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
the basic idea is though, upgrading Win7 to Win8 is an absolute catastrophe unless, perhaps, you did a vanilla install of win7, didn't install any programs, and upgraded straight from there
 
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
oh dear..
i remember Vista to Windows 7 upgrade took like 3 hours
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
chances of having to reinstall from scratch are approximately 100% from my limited testing
it does take an extremely long time; but it takes that time and then fails
the main reason i ever used windows was out of (a) laziness and (b) desire to play games.. if i can get myself motivated again and not play as many games and focus on my career, education, open source development, etc. then those aspects go away
so i'm just going to continue on with Ubuntu and i'm very happy with it
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
6:33 PM
@TomWijsman already signed up :P
i also bribed Michael Larabel to write up an article about a different type of beer and to "encourage" Valve to accept me into the beta :D
 
Dynamic
Dynamic
Is Windows 8 worth the upgrade? I'm eligible for the $15 download so I'm seriously considering switching...
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@Dynamic For $15? Yeah
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
6:53 PM
@Dynamic almost any software is probably worth $15; the price is cheap so it doesn't hurt to try it, even if you don't like it... although if it breaks your system you might end up spending more time on fixing it than it's worth (such as in my case)
i got a refund on my purchase and donated $22 to Ubuntu/Canonical for development of hardware drivers and performance optimization on Ubuntu
time to put my money where my philosophy is
 
 
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Dynamic
Dynamic
9:01 PM
@allquixotic My problem is that the PC that I'm thinking about upgrading a) is basically the computer in my house that everybody uses and b) doesn't have a touch screen...
My family isn't too tech savvy so I'm not sure how they'll handle the migration, even though they say they want it :P
 
Paul
Paul
@TomWijsman Hi Tom, was that about raspberry pi? Yeah, mine came in. I couldn't find any way to track it was happening, I just got an email from RS saying it was dispatched
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
9:16 PM
0
Q: How can I prevent my computer from waking up accidentally?

Ivo FlipseWhen I put my computer into sleep mode, it will wake up while I'm away from it. There's nothing near the computer that could move the mouse or accidentally press a button and I have no idea what might be causing it. I tried checking what woke it, apparently LASTWAKE only tells me that it has bee...

windows-8
Someone, solve my problem, kthnxbye
@Dynamic Either way, its probably not going away, so you'd do them a favor to expose them to Windows 8 and be around to help them
And you should at least get the license, you can always use it later
 
sidran32
sidran32
I actually like Windows 8. However, if you're going to install it on a multimonitor system, where you have an extended desktop to the left of your main desktop, I would recommend getting Start8 to get the start menu back. Hot corners are awesome on single screen setups. And they do have some trapping for multimonitor setups, but having a larger target is just better in that situation.
Only problems I ran into: Acronis TrueImage 2011 needed to upgrade to support Windows 8, and WindowBlinds is incompatible with Windows 8, at this time (which I expected).
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
@sidran32 I don't even use those hot corners (yet)
But I have a 27 inch monitor + 2 * 22 inch, so I have plenty of space on my taskbar for the most important apps anyway
I don't get why people need a start menu :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse I use the top right one most of the time. That charms bar is very useful to get to settings.
@IvoFlipse I don't most of the time, but on occasion I do have to access programs that I don't use enough to warrant being pinned or a desktop shortcut, but I use enough to keep installed.
So I'll do a search, or pin it to start.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
9:31 PM
Windows + I = settings too :)
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse I know. I'm not used to that shortcut yet :P
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
@sidran32 Well Fitts Law would say the start menu sucked
Neither am I, I had to google it :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse Fitt's Law?
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Fitts's law
Fitts' law (often cited as Fitts's law) is a model of human movement primarily used in human–computer interaction and ergonomics that predicts that the time required to rapidly move to a target area is a function of the distance to the target and the size of the target. Fitts's law is used to model the act of pointing, either by physically touching an object with a hand or finger, or virtually, by pointing to an object on a computer monitor using a pointing device. It was proposed by Paul Fitts in 1954. Model Fitts's law has been formulated mathematically in several different ways. One ...
But this blog post is more relevant, given it was written by the designer of the Ribbon: blogs.msdn.com/b/jensenh/archive/2006/08/22/711808.aspx
the TLDR is: there's a relation between the size of an object and the distance you have to travel to get to it
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse I know why they did the hot corner thing, but I'm just saying that from an ergonomics standpoint, while it makes sense when you don't have a desktop to the left of the main display because it will be trapped by the left edge and bottom edge (and probably the left edge first, as moving your mouse left-right is easier than moving it up-down, due to the muscles involved)...
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
9:37 PM
When navigating the start menu, you have to make small sideway movements, which require a lot of precision, just because they were designed like that, which is just poor usability
 
sidran32
sidran32
When you have a desktop to the left, you no longer trap on the left edge of the screen--only the bottom edge. So, you have to trap at the bottom, and then move the cursor along the bottom edge of the screen to hit the corner, which is more unnatural and you're more prone to miss the trapping at the corner. Therefore, it's easier and faster to make an intentional movement to a larger target, in this case.
I don't have a problem with their design decision. I just think that the hot corner could still be better refined before I prefer it for a larger target area on multimonitor setups like mine.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
@sidran32 Ah, I wasn't arguing against that, just that the start menu sucked :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
I completed level 1 of the Win 8 challenge... with a question I posted and then voted to close because I found the answer in another question...
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Q: Keyboard shortcut to search Settings in Windows 8?

sidran32If you press the Windows button and start typing, it will search all your apps. If you press Windows+F, it will search your Files. Is there a similar keyboard shortcut that you can use to search in Settings, without having to use the mouse?

keyboard-shortcuts windows-8
I feel kind of weird about that :P
@IvoFlipse Yeah. :P
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
@agent86 Any suggestions for how to find what network activity might be involved?
 
agent86
agent86
@IvoFlipse I think I've seen this with file/print sharing before. Like if you've got other machines that are refreshing file lists or what have you from another machine.
it's kind of a shot in the dark though
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
9:47 PM
@agent86 Hmmm I did do 'stuff' at my laptop
Pretty stupid if it could wake up computers at random
Or if my Phone could do the same if I search for my NAS
 
agent86
agent86
and at one point when I had a Dell e-series laptop for work, it would come on in my backpack or laptop bag even though I'd put it to sleep and left it in sleep mode for certain before putting it away. caused no end to the overheating in the bag.
 
sidran32
sidran32
If sharing media, it can be set to prevent going to sleep, but I don't think it'd cause waking of the computer.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Really odd
 
agent86
agent86
I feel like once upon a time you could go into the settings for the network card and uncheck the box for allowing it to wake from sleep. I know I've woken machines from more than just magic packets before.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Luckily booting is a lot faster, so I guess it would be better to just turn the darn thing off
and now Chrome Dev seems broken too :(
 
sidran32
sidran32
9:50 PM
@IvoFlipse My answer shed any light?
Oh, I remember this exact thing happening to my laptop before... I figured it out. I'll edit in the solution there as an aside
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Nope, I checked that too after poking around in powercfg
 
agent86
agent86
that's from the device manager page for my laptop's integrated NIC
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse I edited my answer.
My other solution was on Windows 7, but I suspect it's not much different in Windows 8?
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
I changed it so my mouse can't wake it up, though its unlikely
Or at least, I never had that problem with Windows 7
 
sidran32
sidran32
It was a thought. :P
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
9:56 PM
@agent86 Found it! I had no clue where to find that menu until I read the sentence underneath the image :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
My computer can't get woken via mouse or keyboard activity either. I actually am surprised that motherboards these days are like that. I could do this on my old budget Windows 98 laptop. It even had a "Sleep" button featured prominently on the keyboard.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
And ffs IE10 where are your spell checking settings, stop underlining every english sentence
@sidran32 So have I, albeit using an Fn button
@agent86 Lets see if that works, it should prevent network things from screwing with me
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse Laptops still allow it. I'm just surprised desktops sometimes don't. My motherboard is an MSI, by the way.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
@badp That's an interesting theory, should I hibernate instead?
 
badp
badp
@IvoFlipse It's much slower
both when hibernating and when waking up
 
sidran32
sidran32
10:00 PM
@IvoFlipse:
“All spellchecking options can be managed in the language control panel in Windows 8. On Windows 7, the spellchecking management experience for IE10 will be provided by the browser instead.”
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
I don't mind that much, all I care about is that I don't have to reopen all my tabs and stuff
 
badp
badp
It's just faster to boot normally than it is to read up 4 GB of data from disk while swapping and whatnot
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Even with a nice new SSD?
 
agent86
agent86
hibernating tends to be faster than booting on my machine
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Well probably, but still
 
badp
badp
10:01 PM
I don't have a nice new SSD
 
agent86
agent86
plus the advantage of not having to restore your state...
 
badp
badp
Windows 8 anyway kind of resumes from hibernation resume instead of a normal booting
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Btw I just found out my computer syncs my background images, suddenly I was seeing background images on my laptop that weren't available on it before
 
badp
badp
afaik it pretty much saves the state of a fully booted up system in a file when it boots normally once and every time after that it just resumes from that copy
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
So better be careful about using wrong backgrounds on shared computers :P
 
badp
badp
10:03 PM
@IvoFlipse I'm kind of disappointed by the amount of things Win8 doesn't share actually
like start screens
I totally expected Win8 to sync start screens.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
File a bug report ;)
 
badp
badp
lol, as if
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@sidran32 Well I'll be damned there is =D
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f :)
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
@sidran32 Geez, not really transparent though
 
sidran32
sidran32
10:04 PM
@IvoFlipse I know.
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
In Chrome I can say what languages it should be using
 
sidran32
sidran32
@IvoFlipse Well, it follows along the trend of having IE more or less integrated, even though the app itself isn't, so much.
 
badp
badp
Ah, spellchecking in IE10 is indeed managed with Win-Space
 
sidran32
sidran32
Internet Options is still a control panel.
 
badp
badp
That's the whole point of having multiple languages in there, even if they share keyboard layouts
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
10:06 PM
Ok that's odd, I press Win+Space and now it stops asking, even though I didn't notice picking something else :S
There should be a question for that :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
If you have the language toolbar, you should be able to switch languages on the fly from it, instead of having to go into the control panel each time.
 
badp
badp
I agree :P
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
I hate that ugly logo :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f Upvote my answer? :S >.>
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
Besides, it reminds me of how all my Belgium laptops also defaulted to Azerty
I'll first have to find out how to reproduce the problem now :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
10:08 PM
I'm totally procrastinating housework. I think I'll go do that now. AFK!
 
Ivo Flipse
Ivo Flipse
I'll just go to bed
thanks for the input though :)
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f And thanks :P
@IvoFlipse Night!
 
Einsteins Grandson
Einsteins Grandson
hey guys
can i have a question?
;o))))))))))))))))
 
sidran32
sidran32
@EinsteinsGrandson What question would that be? :)
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
10:23 PM
@sidran32 There we go lol
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f Oh, it wasn't you before. Thanks :P
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
Ya but now you're at 3 =D
teh magic number
 
Dynamic
Dynamic
@IvoFlipse What about the fact that I don't have a touch screen?
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f Yup. But, I already have an Arc Touch. :P I'd go for a surface, though, even though I have an ultratabooklet thingy that's supposed to have shipped already. #nerdrage
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
oddly I'm shooting for the keyboard
 
sidran32
sidran32
10:25 PM
FedEx is dragging their feet. Although, maybe it's a good thing, because of the upcoming "Frankenstorm".
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@sidran32 You near the east coast?
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f I'm in Central MA. The only thing I can say is "At least I'm not near the shore"...
Though maybe this means I'll have some of the week off from work. If I get it before the storm, that means more time to play with it (at least, if I have power to charge the thing) :P
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
So crazy that the hurricane is going that far north
 
sidran32
sidran32
It's like a trifecta of perfect situations. High tide + Hurricane + Cold front...
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
That's what allquixotic was saying
 
sidran32
sidran32
10:28 PM
Apparently this has never happened before, and is likely going to be the worst storm on record for New England...
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
global warming or something ¬_¬
 
sidran32
sidran32
Global Climate Change. "Warming" is a misnomer. :P
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
Meh, still the most known term.
 
sidran32
sidran32
It's hard to pin specific weather events on that overall trend. But I do tend to think it's related. With increased global temperatures, you have more moisture in the atmosphere, and it leads to more weather extremes in general. Which is barrels of fun, apparently. :P
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
It's been pretty noticeable in Washington state. The ski resorts are hurting, seasons seem to have shifted...
 
sidran32
sidran32
10:30 PM
I actually am not too worried. I know that damage could occur, and I'm hoping things like our house doesn't flood or my car doesn't get damaged. But, I'll take that when it comes. It will at least be an interesting experience, riding it out. :P
Yeah.
 
Paul
Paul
@r.tanner.f Still the most known term, and it is accurate, but it leads people to think that when it becomes unseasonably cold that global warming is not occuring, and the vast scientific conspiracy is just that. "Climate change" better describes the outcome of global warming.
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@Paul See, I just don't care about those people. =D If they can't figure it out then they're probably not worth talking to about it anyway...
 
sidran32
sidran32
@Paul Yeah. "Warming" more refers to average global temperatures. I remember when we had tons of snow and everyone was saying "Suck it, Al Gore!", when in reality, it was to be expected from G.C.C..
 
Paul
Paul
@r.tanner.f Sadly, they form a vocal majority in the US it seems, so talking to them and bringing about a change in thinking is necessary to solve any of the problems related to GCC
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@sidran32 I used to be a naysayer myself, but when stuff got super cold then super hot I was like... ¬_¬ Crap.
 
Paul
Paul
10:33 PM
It is pretty similar here in AU too, but the impact is less I guess
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@Paul Talking to them won't solve it. Sadly, I think everyone knowing might not even do much about it. =\ We're so far up the creek I'm convinced we're just gonna have to roll with it and figure something else out.
We can't shut down all the factories in China. The climate is going to change. It's just a question of how fast and whether or not we're prepared. But then I'm sort of a conspiracy nut so...
 
sidran32
sidran32
@r.tanner.f Aha. :P A lot of naysayers tend to say things like that the scientists are bought off or parroting some party line to get funding. But anyone who's seen the kinds of budgets and environments scientists work in will realize that if they wanted more money, they'd be more likely to hire themselves off to corporations like Halliburton. There isn't much money to be had in science. :P
 
Paul
Paul
@r.tanner.f You are probably right. I think assuming the worst and trying to avoid it simultaneously is the rational approach, which means banging on about it until people listen.
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
@sidran32 People who go in to environmental science don't need to be bought off. :P They're going to QQ about the environment any way they can. (A friend of mine who went in to that field demonstrated this to me =D) But it doesn't mean they're wrong. At first I accepted it as a bias, but now I think they happened to be right. =\ Disturbingly right...
 
sidran32
sidran32
I still don't know what "QQ" means. :P
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
10:36 PM
Q_Q
 
sidran32
sidran32
Ah :P
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
that explain it? :P
 
sidran32
sidran32
Yeah, got it :P
I love this:
Friendly competition :)
 
Paul
Paul
What is the best software to install for remote access to a family members PC? Preferably one that doesn't require any action on their part?
 
sidran32
sidran32
There's always Windows' built-in RDP...
 
r.tanner.f
r.tanner.f
10:41 PM
@Paul TeamViewer is pretty good, and is free for personal use
It would be nice for that "Don't touch anything and let me look at it..." thing.
 
Paul
Paul
@sidran32 Yeah I need something which doesn't need portforwarding due to their connection type
 
sidran32
sidran32
@Paul You need to port forward? If they're behind a router, I almost expect it to be something you'll have to do no matter what...
Though if you have something like dd-wrt, you might be able to set it up so you can VPN into their network. But you can't really do that remotely, yourself.
 
Paul
Paul
@sidran32 Apps like logmein connect to a central server outbound, and allow the incoming connection via the central server, so no port forwarding is required
@r.tanner.f Thanks, I'll try it
 
sidran32
sidran32
@Paul Aha. I never used those kind of apps before. Always just stuck with RDP or VNC. :P
(Though I've drifted away from VNC. I prefer how RDP works.)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Paul: I've had good luck with chrome remote desktop
 
Paul
Paul
10:52 PM
@JourneymanGeek Hmm... the family member is nearing 80 years old, so the solution needs to be has hands off as possible. I couldn't guarantee chrome would always be running, and would have trouble talking them through starting a browser
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Paul: chrome wouldn't always have to be running
I'd set it up on a spare google account you know the credentials to. To connect, you fire up your copy of chrome, log into that account, give 6 digit passkey, and thats it. There's a process running in the background so chrome wouldn't need to run all the time
 
sidran32
sidran32
@JourneymanGeek See, now that I have Windows 8 installed, I can actually answer questions! And ask questions!
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
11:25 PM
@Paul How long did it took them from dispatch to arrival?
@JourneymanGeek: How do you know they added 3 weeks? Or did you not receive the mail for another 3 weeks?
If it doesn't get sent out early December I'll start to worry... :D
@sidran32 I don't have Windows 8 installed. :D
 
sidran32
sidran32
@TomWijsman Good for you? :P
I need to stop answering questions and get back to vacuuming and dusting...
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
No, means you don't really need it for Q&A. :D
 
sidran32
sidran32
@TomWijsman But because I prefer to do things, and fiddle, and verify my answers by testing them physically (if possible), I do. :P
I wouldn't know many of the answers I posted already if I didn't fiddle last night :P
Also, I don't get questions without said fiddling and subsequently becoming stumped.
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
True, if I were still a Windows 8 user I'd be working on the both desktop & metro browser stuff and similar things.
Quite happy I did the switch to Gentoo Linux though, I don't like the current split approach. They should've made the effort to integrate it more and made it slightly less touch centric.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@TomWijsman so you stopped using Windows 8 also?
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
11:34 PM
@allquixotic Yeah, since July or so.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
I switched to Ubuntu 12.10
 
sidran32
sidran32
@TomWijsman How was installing Gentoo? I tried installing it back in '08 (or thereabouts) and despite me printing and studying the hundred-ish page install manual, I couldn't get it to work.
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@sidran32: Went quite well, am happy to pull you through it if you ever consider again.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
I love Gentoo to death; I just don't have the time to compile shit...
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
And actually, on a reinstall I would just run through gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml or almost do it blindly.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
11:37 PM
installing Gentoo was like building my own lightsaber (sorry for the Jedi reference) when I did it. I started from stage 0 and learned how to bootstrap my system, compile the Linux kernel, compile gcc, compile glibc...
I learned so much from doing it, but it's not something I'd do again, now that I have the knowledge.
I would use genkernel if I did ever install it again, but I don't have the patience for the compile times anyway
 
sidran32
sidran32
@TomWijsman I may. I still want to get it working at some point. But I have lost incentive for now since I'm not in school at the moment.
I'll probably install CentOS sometime soon though, at least on my work computer, so I don't have to remote in from my workstation all the time. They said I could, but I just have to find time. :P
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
I still know how to compile a kernel if I need to, though.. have about 25% of the config flags (the important ones for my hardware) memorized or can easily substring search them
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@allquixotic: Well, under the defaults it's painful, but if you go for jobs and load averaging flags to run things in parallel it becomes more bareable, you can also run building of tmpfs and use ccache to speed up things more. Unless you have an old computer compiling shouldn't be disturbing you.
 
sidran32
sidran32
Best title to a question, ever:
20
Q: How can I kill / murder / fully disable StickyKeys?

AmolainI hate StickyKeys. Worst idea Microsoft has ever come up with. Is there any way to disable it permanently, system-wide?

windows-7 keyboard-layout disable
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
brb
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
11:40 PM
@allquixotic: And for subsequent kernel compiles you can disable mkproper and clean, if I need to change something in the kernel it takes like half a minute to produce me a new kernel.
Also, I just let updates do their job in the background and they don't bother me at all... 
PORTAGE_NICENESS="19"
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND="ionice -c 3 schedtool -D \${PID}"
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TomWijsman they sent me a mail saying so
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@JourneymanGeek Ah, sounds good that they keep people up to date if they exceed the expected amount of weeks.
Just so stupid that Farnell switched over the weekend, shouldn't have delayed this for so long... >_<
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TomWijsman: they still have significantly longer delivery times
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
Yeah, Farnell looks more serious and all that, each time I looked it was like 3 weeks. Just finally took the decision to go for it as I see many nice things you can do with it pop up, want to buy it early before they come with some Model C or RPi2 or something.
But well, if RS only mentions 2 weeks extra and they don't delay it any further it should be fine...
 
sidran32
sidran32
I wonder if FedEx hasn't shipped my tabultrabooklet yet because they're anticipating the storm. I could understand that.
It's either that or they're dragging their feet.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:53 PM
lol
or up the memory again
My hungarian friend is annoyed he got the old model
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@JourneymanGeek: I hope they do that before they ship. :D
Would jump in the air if they'd send "Your Raspberry Pi now comes with 1GB memory!".
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
XD
 
sidran32
sidran32
I love WeatherUnderground
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
at 512 mb Its actually pretty beefy
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@sidran32: Definitely try weatherspark.com
 
sidran32
sidran32
11:56 PM
@TomWijsman That's also very cool
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@JourneymanGeek: Yeah, wondering if running processes don't take away too much.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TomWijsman: I've comfortably run a cli system on 128
needed 256 to do video conversion to stream
 
Tom Wijsman
Tom Wijsman
@JourneymanGeek I'm going for the XBMC stuff so I don't have to mount up the TV to my laptop anymore, as well as try to see what other things I can do with it.
Might use it as a NAS and attach it to my external storage device, although it's currently in NTFS which might complicate things.
 
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