TRPG General Chat

Karelzarath

12:06 AM

I'd love to get into Shadowrun, but finding a group is difficult.

Shalvenay

hey there @Karelzarath, how're things going?

Karelzarath

Not too bad. Getting deep in the 3.5 weeds to answer a question.

ACuriousMind

@Karelzarath I'm not the biggest fan of the system as such, but I really like the setting

Shalvenay

speaking of weeds -- perhaps you could come up with something to help guide DForck in workshopping this question?

godskook

Gawd, I gotta start preparing a few new hooks for my D&D group.

Shalvenay

12:18 AM

hey there @godskook

godskook

@Shalvenay, heya.

I swear, my head always goes "Shalvenay, Shalvenay, dance to the music" whenever I chat with you.

Shalvenay

hahaha :P

how're things going?

godskook

Other than plotting adventures for PCs unknown? Good

ShadowKras

sup guys

BESW

[wave]

Shalvenay

12:25 AM

hey there @ShadowKras, how're things going?

ShadowKras

pretty good, you @Shalvenay?

Shalvenay

I'm OK here, although things are somewhat slow...

@ShadowKras alright here.

ShadowKras

@Karelzarath i have the opposite issue whenever i announce i want to gm a shadowrun table. People from other states want to participate and beg for me to use online tools.

Shalvenay

what systems do you play btw @ShadowKras?

ShadowKras

Right now im gm'ing pathfinder and playing savage worlds/achtung cthulhu

BESW

12:31 AM

Which version of AC?

ShadowKras

the kickstarter one i believe

Shalvenay

@ShadowKras ah. I'm going to be taking a 5e shortform dungeon to a con soon, and am hoping to pick up a table or two late next month

ShadowKras

the GM likes the setting

BESW

Call of Cthulhu, Savage Worlds, Fate?

ShadowKras

So he mixes with anything he can find about world war II and cthulhu

savage worlds

BESW

12:33 AM

Gotcha.

ShadowKras

last session we fought "the thing" (yep, that one) somewhere around siberia

im playing a "doctor" who is actually a specialist in demolition for a secret agency and acts as field medic undercover

Shalvenay

heheh

BESW

That reminds me, I should see if I can hack Castle Bravo for Cthulhu Dark.

It had some awesome concepts, but was bloated with padding and unnecessarily complex Mythos tie-ins.

Ben

I have arrived [pose]

Miniman

@Ben [throws egg]

Ben

12:42 AM

Aww

Shalvenay

hey there @Ben, how're things going?

Ben

Well apart from the egg on my face...

[badum-tss]

Shalvenay

I'm alright here, got the con coming up soon so there is that...

Ben

Ohh nice

Miniman

@Shalvenay So you'll have more hit points?

Shalvenay

12:45 AM

@Miniman :P haha

daze413

gah, my really long answer (tm) to the werewolf homebrew question wasnt saved last night...

Shalvenay

hey there @J.Foster and @daze413

Ben

@daze413 [arth maul "nooo".gif]

Wow.

-1 Nerd point for me there

Darth* Vader*

daze413

How do you even screw that up?

:o

Ben

Lack of coffee

And Java

daze413

12:53 AM

@Ben Ah, the internet forgives you.

hey @Shalvenay :) what con are you talking about?

Shalvenay

a local one we have around here

daze413

oh, sounds fun, anything you're involved with in it?

BESW

@Ben Still a better name than Darth Icky.

Shalvenay

@daze413 nothing scheduled

daze413

@Shalvenay Anything in particular you're looking forward to?

Shalvenay

1:04 AM

@daze413 got a playtest I want to catch, and going to bring my dungeon too :)

daze413

@Shalvenay wow, that's awesome! You've been playtesting that for weeks, good luck!

hey there @NautArch

Howdy @Shalvenay

what's up?

Software updates... You?

Ben

1:16 AM

Updates... 90% of my day

Shalvenay

alright here

NautArch

@Ben so much fun!

Gameday coming up Sunday. Not saying I'm excited, but...

Shalvenay

kind of wondering how Jherala would fare in a courtly-intrigue type campaign

daze413

@Shalvenay if anyone is running that, I'd like to get experience with it. I'm pretty bad at that campaign, in particular

Shalvenay

@daze413 yeah, I've never really been a high intrigue person myself

Ben

1:19 AM

The main thing is to learn when to [gasp] at the right moment

Shalvenay

RPing a character who is a royal does have me wondering though...

@Ben hahaha

(my past experiences with mystery based stuff in general have not worked well -- mostly because I'm an evidence-driven sort of person, and most of the mystery-based stuff I've run into so far has been about coaxing info out of unreliable witnesses)

NautArch

I love a good murder mystery. Problem is that most aren't good.

Shalvenay

@NautArch ...yeah. I find the whole "lets build everything around the witnesses" trope to be very tiring

@NautArch what makes them good or bad in your eyes btw?

BESW

Mm, the thing about most mysteries is that the evidence is the least important part of the story; mystery plots are traditionally a framework on which to hang interesting characters, moral problems, and cool setpieces.

Ben

What, "Professor Plum in the Kitchen with the Candlestick" not really gripping the audience anymore?

Damn.

NautArch

1:24 AM

@Shalvenay interesting and fun story that is solvable with the clues,but with good misdirection.

Shalvenay

@NautArch ah. I tend to get interested in more...technical mysteries myself

NautArch

@ben how DARE they talk that way about Clue!

Shalvenay

(such as mishap investigations)

NautArch

@Shalvenay same principle

daze413

it's really tough to pull off. We can't all be "Valley of Fear"-calibre writers, and you get a mediocre mystery (which is a bad mystery), most of the time

Shalvenay

1:26 AM

yeah -- there can be some interesting misdirections even in a purely technical sense

BESW

@Ben The best part of the Clue books was always the ridiculous characters.

Shalvenay

British Airways Flight 38

British Airways Flight 38 (call sign Speedbird 38) is a scheduled flight operated by British Airways from Beijing, China to London, United Kingdom. On 17 January 2008, local time 12:32 GMT, the Boeing 777 used for the flight, having completed the 8,100-kilometre (4,400 nmi; 5,000 mi) trip, crashed just short of the runway at its destination. There were no fatalities but from the 152 people on board, 47 people sustained injuries, one of them serious. The 150-tonne aircraft was the first Boeing 777-200ER to be written off in the model's history, and the first hull loss of any Boeing 777. Ice crystals...

BESW

...I appear to have found an herb blend that doesn't exist.

Ben

What... Oregano and nutmeg?

BESW

The Insatiable Spice Company's "Veggie Citrus Herb."

trogdor

1:33 AM

wat

BESW

It's awesome, and doesn't seem to exist except for the fact I've got it here in front of me.

trogdor

so like, grab some plant and pour some lemon juice on it and call it a veggie citrus herb?

Ben

Well... It does exist

BESW

A friend gave it to me, and I've been using it on everything.

Ben

Cos you have it in front of you.

BESW

1:34 AM

But good luck finding any mention of it on the Internet.

trogdor

@BESW so when did you find the magic lamp and not tell me that you had then?

BESW

It should be in this picture, but it's not:

godskook

Anybody know of a spell that does negative levels that's lower-level than Enervation?

Shalvenay

@BESW -- was the manufacturer courteous enough to put their contact info on the label?

hey there @Emrakul

BESW

It's the same color as Herb Blend Sea Salt, but the label has a different picture, and insatiablespice.com doesn't list it anywhere on their page.

trogdor

1:36 AM

@BESW maybe it's too new to be in pictures of all the brand herbs?

BESW

Google returns exactly 0 responses for "insatiable spice company" and "veggie herb blend."

Shalvenay

because my suggestion would be to call or email the manufacturer

BESW

@Shalvenay The wobsite has a contact form for non-retailer queries.

Shalvenay

@BESW that works too

Ben

6 mins ago, by BESW

The Insatiable Spice Company's "Veggie Citrus Herb."

BESW

1:39 AM

But the wobsite also says their "grinders are ONLY available by direct sail by our retail partners."

Ben

Found it

BESW

@Ben There ya go.

I'm not sure about the wisdom of a sail-based distribution scheme based out of Colorado.

trogdor

what,... like actual sail boats?

seems like a bad idea for mass product shipping

Ben

Isn't that why they call it "shipping"?

Miniman

@trogdor It might work ok if they had a coastline.

trogdor

1:45 AM

@Miniman this too, but like, even without that

@Ben I mean, you do know sailboats are not the only kind of boat right? :P

Ben

Oh, well I usually just clump it all together as "boats".

trogdor

@Miniman also, I assume their retail partners are not also trying to ship directly from Colorado too

Ben

Or, if it's big enough, "ships"

Miniman

@Ben "Vessels"?

Ben

I found they often get confused with "Vassals", so I try to be a little more specific

BESW

1:49 AM

Wessels?

Ben

from weaseltown (pronounced "Whestle-ton")

BESW

That must be a shibboleth.

Yuuki

@Ben relevant

user15026

@BESW I notice the list on their main page goes 1-5 and then 8, so maybe what you have is 6 or 7?

BESW

That seems ~~seasonable~~ reasonable.

Ben

1:57 AM

@Yuuki Also relevant

BESW

But it's weird that my label is exactly the same shade of green as 4.

user15026

Yeah, that's jsut my best guess based on what little info there is

Ben

@Miniman what about Out-of-Body experiences?

Miniman

@Ben Well, good luck casting spells with no body. But that kind of niche situation is why I included the (hopefully!) clause.

BESW

I assume 5e doesn't have the workarounds 3.5 did for bodyless spellcasting?

Ben

2:01 AM

...that's actually a thing?

Miniman

@BESW Arguably.

BESW

in Not a bar, but plays one on TV, 24 hours ago, by BESW

Well, it was a pebble. That was a lich's phylactery. And the lich was trapped in it waiting to regenerate. So she used still and silent metamagic to cast spells without having hands, mouth, or reagents. But it was still a spellcasting rock.

Ben

Oh right... I forgot about the components

Miniman

@BESW I mean, that's still a thing.

BESW

See also spell-like abilities, which require "no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus or have an XP cost. The user activates it mentally."

Miniman

2:03 AM

I'm just struggling to come up with a method that allows PCs out-of-body experiences while maintaining their spellcasting abilities.

BESW

@Miniman Astral projection?

Ben

@BESW Aren't those usually just cantrips?

Spells cast so often you can do them in your sleep?

Miniman

@Ben Nah, they're something which changed significantly across editions.

BESW

@Ben Maybe in 5e, I dunno. But in 3.5 any spell can be a spell-like ability.

Miniman

@BESW Fair point, but astral projection isn't so much an out-of-body experience as a "here, have a body suited to the environment and instantly be in your regular body if you go anywhere else" now.

BESW

2:07 AM

What do you have in mind, then?

Miniman

@BESW Like I said, I can't come up with anything that really fits an out-of-body experience.

BESW

I mean, start by describing what an out-of-body experience would be like in your mind.

Ben

@BESW Doctor strange

BESW

If you're having trouble with mechanics, try working out the narrative principles first.

Ben

They call it "astral projection", but essentially, it's the separation of a "spirit form" from the "physical"

Miniman

2:10 AM

@BESW Being able to move your point of perception without having a physical form, I guess?

It's not like I have any need or desire to work out how to do this though.

Raven Dreamer

Aww, it's going to take Heroforge a month to ship my order.

Miniman

This was all in response to Ben asking about out-of-body experiences.

BESW

Hmm. In 3.5 I'd probably do something with the ethereal plane.

> An ethereal creature is invisible, insubstantial, and capable of moving in any direction, even up or down, albeit at half normal speed. As an insubstantial creature, you can move through solid objects, including living creatures. An ethereal creature can see and hear on the Material Plane, but everything looks gray and ephemeral. Sight and hearing onto the Material Plane are limited to 60 feet.
Force effects and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally. Their effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane from the Material Plane, but not vice versa. An ethereal creature can’t attack mate…

So that'd be a modified ethereal jaunt effect.

Ben

I suppose you might be able to allow Ethereal > Meterial with a really high DC?

BESW

A super-high Spellcraft check would seem reasonable.

Papayaman1000

2:18 AM

I need both a break from coding for a bit, and to poke my head in for the last chance I get to for... five days methinks?

Ben

@Papayaman1000 I have developed an eye twitch from the same activities

daze413

oh, gods. I just submitted my answer for the werewolf question, @Miniman you're right it is exhausting to write and it is kinda broad :/ but I was half-way to the answer and was too committed. >_<

Papayaman1000

@Ben "Hey, I know, I'll try to make input verification for optional arguments!"

Ben

@Papayaman1000 Mistake #1

My favourite line is
Client: "Can we do (x)?"
Boss: "Anything is *possible*"
Me: [eye twitch]

BESW

Heh.

Today is the day I sit next to my email waiting for the client to come up with last-minute changes in the last hours before printing.

Ben

2:27 AM

@BESW "Sorry, the email server was down, so I didn't get your input. Sorry"

Papayaman1000

@Ben "Ooh, I'll just store these objects in an array so I have a nice on-fire dynamically-named reference to it! And I'll make it so that they receive an ID based on the index they're stored in! I can't possibly see how this could fail with a constantly-mutating array!"

Ben

@Papayaman1000 "Nah, GUIDs will take care of that..."

Papayaman1000

@Ben "AND I'LL STORE THESE MASSIVE, COMPLEX OBJECTS WITH SEVERAL FUNCTION METHODS AS A JSON OBJECT FOR REUSE CLIENT-SIDE!"

Ben

@Papayaman1000 Wait... what? WHY?

Papayaman1000

@Ben Because inventories with highly unique weapons and the likes.

Ben

2:31 AM

"Because that's what it's designed for"?

Papayaman1000

Also I found this massive setup that makes music out of floppy drives, old hard-drives, and generally any old circa-'89 computer part that made mechanical noise.

Ben

collective groan from entire coding dept

@Papayaman1000 Now that's worthwhile :D

Papayaman1000

@Ben Here, lemme link it playing Darude Sandstorm or somethin

The Floppotron: Darude - Sandstorm

►

there are so many meme songs guy's made with it

Ben

It's magical!

Papayaman1000

"We Are Number One but it's played by old computer parts"
"Floppotron: What is Love"
"Floppotron: All-Star"
"Floppotron: Running In The '90s"

@Ben this is my life now

I want to make a career out of this

"I hate it"
"But I love it"
"BUT I HATE IT"
"BUT I LOVE IT SO MUCH"

Ben

2:36 AM

@Papayaman1000 I understand that 100%

It's probably why I love Dark Souls so much.

Papayaman1000

@Ben Isn't that just coding? Or any task that requires outside-the-box thinking and constant reiteration?

I don't know why but I have a soft spot for people who make music out of unrelated mechanical sounds

like fiber lasers, shop tools, old computer parts...

...smacking Steve's desk...

Ben

@Papayaman1000 Well, when you're in a business that's full of people with the understanding of "Oh, you write programs... so you know how to fix computers right?" and a boss that is a software engineer, with ZERO coding experience, and can type 15 wpm, and wants to learn how to code... Yes

Papayaman1000

@Ben yeah more-or-less

I think that's exactly why everyone dreams of working at a startup and totally would if the pay was right, the projects were interesting, the relevant parts of the tech stack fell in there rather specific area of expertise, the company didn't have like a 40% chance of going under within five years...

Ben

@Papayaman1000 I saw an ad trying to say that the IT industry was primarily a male-based industry for (insert whatever reason here).

Papayaman1000

@Ben [internal screaming]

[external screaming]

[omnipresent screaming]

user15026

2:47 AM

@Papayaman1000 Huh, I know that song (mostly from hockey games) and I didn't until now know what it was called

Papayaman1000

@Ash well it doesn't help that it's the default jerkish response to someone asking the name of a song

Ben

@Ash Any song someone doesn't recognise on youtube, they'll ask what it is. 100% of the time, someone (or multiple) will say it's "Darude Sandstorm"

Internet Joke #24

Papayaman1000

We Are Number One but it's The Floppotron

►

Ben

God knows why though...

Papayaman1000

my favorite part is the perfect on-beat apple roll

Ben

2:51 AM

I actually enjoy watching the screen in the background

Papayaman1000

did I also mention the entire program is a giant, barely-working ball of kludges and spaghetti code written in Python 2.7 during boring lectures? That's dedication... or the same kind of idle boredom that makes me work on the project I was talking about when I walked in here.

but at least I try to write clean, understandable code [that nobody else could ever read because I'm an amateur who skimmed like 4 style guides

Ben

Rule #0: Comment your code
Rule #1: Write Tests

[Internal checklist]
Rule #2: Months of programming can save you hours of planning. Go for it.

Joel Harmon

Rule #3: No matter the language you use, follow the three virtues of perl programming; laziness, impatience, and hubris

Rule #4: No matter the language you use, follow the zen of python

nitsua60

Rule 0a: comments should describe the *intent*, not the *function* of the code
Rule 0b: comments should incorporate pointers to reference reading you did while writing this code; reproduce entire articles in-comment if necessary

Ben

Joel Harmon

2:59 AM

@Ben Not sure if you mean class as in university or class as in object template, but it works well either way

@nitsua60 some of my most useful (saved me time later) comments contained the the ID of an item in our bug tracker for exactly why something was done in a weird way

Ben

BESW

@Ben Is this a good opportunity to link these mathematical proofs?

Joel Harmon

I finally have time to throw at a question or two on Stack, and I realize I should probably be responsible and read the new moderator submissions instead

nitsua60

@JoelHarmon But first: how's the baby?

(And you and mom?)

Papayaman1000

@Ben No, no, that's good/

Joel Harmon

3:05 AM

@nitsua60 baby's tiny and adorable; mom's adorable; I'm

Papayaman1000

@JoelHarmon ...facing an existential crisis?

Joel Harmon

@Papayaman1000 no, trying to make a verbal based joke via text, and it's not working so well

nitsua60

@Papayaman1000 lol

Papayaman1000

@JoelHarmon no, i got the joke

just trying to be 'witty'

Joel Harmon

oh, some advice: don't try to read Huxley's novel Brave New World while rocking your baby. It's much more disturbing that way.

nitsua60

3:09 AM

@JoelHarmon OTOH (literally), I bet you'd never imagined how much dexterity you could exercise with one free pinky finger.

3

Joel Harmon

@nitsua60 that's true

nitsua60

(I'm pretty sure I tied a tie once with only two fingers, neither a thumb.)

Joel Harmon

@nitsua60 half windsor, full windsor, or something else?

nitsua60

Full windsor.

Papayaman1000

@nitsua60 Lazy humans: proving that no, the opposable thumbs really aren't necessary

nitsua60

3:11 AM

There were some interesting "hot potato" mornings when partner and I were both trying to leave the house and kept passing the baby to each other.

Joel Harmon

unrelated: I hope everyone is excited for this saturday's observation of International Tabletop Day! tabletopday.com

Papayaman1000

@JoelHarmon I'm so upset I'm gonna be stuck in a place where I can't enjoy it

Joel Harmon

@BESW interestingly, "Well, We'll pretend its true." and "We'll define it to be true." and "Let A be the number such that this proof works." are valid and useful mathematical techniques

@Papayaman1000 I'll just have to enjoy it extra on your behalf, then :)

BESW

@JoelHarmon It's one of the awesome things about math.

nitsua60

@JoelHarmon "Assume this is true, work your way toward discovering what the assumption is that you just made" is just-about my favorite bit of mathematics I get to teach.

Joel Harmon

3:19 AM

@nitsua60 that tends to work when writing code, too :P

nitsua60

Hmm... I never really had much good luck telling a compiler "just assume those lines work, we'll figure the rest out later." Guess that was covered in the 300-level classes?

=)

Joel Harmon

@nitsua60 no, compilers recognize Stack Overflow snippets and assume they're correct. It's up to you to determine their real function

Ben

@nitsua60 I myself have managed to experience the ability to balance an infant on one arm, while switching hands on the phone, and looking up information on the internet at the same time.

nitsua60

@Ben Sounds like you're barely even using your toes!

=D

Ben

Looking back, I don't know where the third arm came from.

BESW

3:23 AM

@nitsua60 It's also a useful social compromise tool, in groups that buy into it: "We can't come to a unanimous agreement on how to solve this problem, but if we each try it our own way we'll sabotage any solution which might have otherwise worked. So we'll act as if the majority solution is the right one, until proven otherwise, and then revisit what we've learned from that."

nitsua60

That might have been a little off-color for the non-parents in the room... =\

Ben

@nitsua60 I missed it, but I am coming into a whole other area of "socially acceptable topics of discussion".

Papayaman1000

Hey, btw, any Fallen Londoners in here?

Ben

It's no longer innapropriate. It's medical

Papayaman1000

I... I'll take that as a "no".

BESW

3:25 AM

@Papayaman1000 Ping @Magician.

Papayaman1000

@BESW Really? Ooh.

@Magician yo dawg i herd u liek Failbetter

Joel Harmon

@Papayaman1000 I have a friend who has mentioned it a few times, but I'm unfamiliar with it

nitsua60

@Ben There is this series of thresholds we seem to pass: "why are strangers feeling like they can talk to me about my most-personal decisions?" "why are strangers touching me?" ... all the way up to "this stranger totally won't mind if I grab their napkin and wipe poop off my baby's back."

Ben

@Papayaman1000 [googles] I can safely say that I am not.

Papayaman1000

@JoelHarmon Think 1890s Victorian London with a smattering of cosmic horror. And comedy.

Ben

3:28 AM

@nitsua60 I am however finding it quite useful when I can get out of conversations with the "What was that? Wipes? Yeah one sec" excuse

[Buys 3 boxes of wipes]

[Never has any close by]

Joel Harmon

no matter how many burp cloths and pacifiers we seem to own, there is never one in the room when I need one

nitsua60

@Ben It conditions you, though. I'm passing out of the stage where I need to be checking on something every two minutes; I definitely have a hard time maintaining a coherent conversation with that mental alarm blaring so frequently.

Ben

@JoelHarmon Truth

@nitsua60 I have issues with the whole "It's too quiet" conundrum. Right now, she's too young to be getting up to mischief, she'll just be sleeping. But then you need to check if she's breathing. But if I do that... she'll wake up...

Joel Harmon

@Ben I distinctly remember the feeling of "it's quiet. Too quiet."

also, if you put your hand just above her mouth/nose, you can feel her breath without actually touching her

Ben

Oh... She knows...

If you are even down the same end of the house... She knows...

And she always knows when you have food.

Joel Harmon

3:34 AM

if she falls asleep in your arms and you try to take 20 on the roll to put her down without waking her, you can take 10 minutes to slowly put her in the crib, but wake her up when you pull your hands out from under her.

nitsua60

@JoelHarmon "It's quiet. Does that mean the monitor's not working? Better go check."

Ben

"First time you've eaten today? Too bad. It's 7pm and this is the first bite you've had all day? Don't care."

nitsua60

@JoelHarmon I've definitely dozed in a pike-position, standing folded over the side of a crib.

Ben

[Link instructional video on how to place infant with minimal disruption]

[Still only 12% success rate]

nitsua60

@Ben In her defense, she has a full-time job: teach you how to be her dad. And she's only got one tool, her cry. It's a tough row to hoe, particularly given how slow some of us dads are at learning =)

Ben

3:38 AM

Yeah. I have managed to catch on to the difference between "Drop what you're doing, I'm in distress" and "I'm only whining for the sake of it."

Joel Harmon

in a few months you'll get to "I'm learning phonemes!"

but yes, the difference between happy crying and sad crying is quite important

Ben

The only thing that I am actively not looking forward to is the lack of filter on the voicebox.

My eardrums are already fragile enough now.

Miniman

4:21 AM

@KorvinStarmast Are you about?

Chemus

I'm askin out of ingance; does that work when the user ain't in the room, or do you need to invite em?

Miniman

@Chemus It works if the user has been in the room reasonably recently.

Chemus

@Miniman OK, thanks.

Ben

They'll get an inbox message for the next time they come to chat.

Chemus

@Ben ...Are you Australian there, Ben, as your user pic suggests?

Ben

4:31 AM

@Chemus As a matter of fact, I am

Miniman

@Chemus I call racism. Honestly, just because he has glasses...

Chemus

<img=new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Warning_fba408_672382.jpg>; hmm. that didn't work right.

Ben

@Miniman Now, now, let's not be too hasty. Yes, my parents wear glasses too, but that doesn't mean anything.

@Chemus you can place a link like this: [alt text](url)

Or you can "upload" an image

Chemus

On on, i detnaw ot etsap a cip, ekil siht:

Ben

(The button is beside the chat box)

@Chemus Well that took effort...

Chemus

4:36 AM

Yeah, I looked at help and fixed what I wanted to do: paste a link to a pic. (and the drawcab gnitirw saw ton dab.)

Ben

My only question is why?

The text, that is

Chemus

I'll pretend that I'm drunk, but really I just went unfiltered a bit, and didn't want backward syntax too for some reason. It woulda been easier for y'all to parse.

Miniman

Also, it's really hard to write text upside down.

trogdor

@Chemus wow, I like this XD

(also funny that nothing would be upside down for us because Australia is relatively close by)

Chemus

@Miniman I really have no idea whether this makes me unusual, but I can read downside up pretty easily.

Ben

4:40 AM

@Chemus I feel like I'm missing something... All I've got is [Image not found]

Doesn't help my firewall blocked the URL

Chemus

@Ben Frap!

Ben

@Chemus I have no issues reading back to front, upside down or anything like that. The downside: I'm lazy.

If it's out of the norm, it's too much effort

[Roll to exert effort]

d20

Dice Service

20

Ben

Well...

trogdor

lol

double damage

Ben

4:41 AM

ahem

Chemus

@DiceService Cackled quietly, I did

Ben

I feel like I should have pulled something

Chemus

Ben

@Chemus Aha! Jokes. I get them

Chemus

That's the Pic you missed

Ben

4:43 AM

@Chemus It might seem tricky to traverse, but since Kangaroos and Emus all have large claws, they have no issues grabbing onto the surface when we ride them.

Chemus

@Ben How do the dropbears stay falling on you improperly?

Miniman

@Ben I've basically lived this.

Ben

@Chemus That's what makes them so dangerous... Nobody knows

Chemus

@Miniman You played Joust too?!

Miniman

@Chemus Aerodynamics.

trogdor

4:46 AM

they are just so strong that they can jump really far and fast like they are falling

either that or they just scare gravity into doing whatever they want

3

Ben

Falling with style

And deadliness

Miniman

@Chemus No, an echidna was under someone's car outside a shop I worked at. Smooth concrete carpark, and 2 of us with shovels couldn't budge the thing an inch.

Chemus

@Miniman Bladed or flat shovels?

Ben

And wombats. They just grab onto nothing somehow.

Chemus

"African or European swallows?"

Miniman

4:48 AM

@Chemus I learned something new today. Bladed.

Chemus

@Ben It's their kangaroo+dropbear ancestry

@Miniman Betcha $.05us that the flat shovel woulda worked ;)

Miniman

@Chemus I can pretty much guarantee it wouldn't have :P

Chemus

@Miniman Dang. the postage on that nickel's gonna be atrocious!

Miniman

The only way we got the silly animal to move was by leaving it alone for 15 minutes.

Whereupon it buried itself in a garden bed and sat there like a pit trap.

Ben

@Chemus Well, Drop Bears are more closely related to the more placid Koala Bear, but we're not really sure what evolved from what. The Drop Bear from the Koala? Or vice versa?

Chemus

4:51 AM

@Ben No?

Ben

No one has been able to observe one long enough to find out the truth

Miniman

@Ben Obviously the koala evolved from the dropbear. The dropbear is a fierce, primal predator capable of killing and eating basically anything. It's probably been around since dinosaur times. The koala, on the other hand, is basically a pillow that occasionally eats some leaves. It could only have evolved in the most forgiving of environments.

Ben

@Miniman That does make sense

Chemus

Perhaps dropbears are koalas, in lycanthropic frenzy.

Miniman

@Ben Also, there's ancient cave art of a pack of dropbears bringing down a T-Rex.

Ben

4:54 AM

@Miniman I saw that one... Absolutely terrifying. I have never seen any reports of Dropbears working in packs before that.

Chemus

phascaolarctopic frenzy?

Ben