@HopelessN00b Nope

@HopelessN00b what do you mean by that huh? Under 10k, you trying to say im stupid or somthing!

he's more than welcome to ask the question again, nicely, in two days, 21 hours, and a few minutes.

@MattBear in order to see deleted posts your power level must be OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!

(exactly 1000 over it, to be specific)

@voretaq7 DBZ reference?

@MattBear $_GENERIC_MEME_REFERENCE_1872

@voretaq7 aww

that's like... the only thing I know about DBZ

well, that and "When the first D is capitalized they're talking about anime, not weather"

@voretaq7 3 episodes of screaming/grunting, before they throw a punch

which misses

@MattBear so... bad kink porn?

@voretaq7 I hope he doesn't. I'm gonna have trouble not trolling him with inquisitive excerpts from his deleted question if he does that. "What version of Vista are you using? Vista Enterprise, or Vista Cnut? And are you using a fugtard-compatible ftp client, or trying to connect in fwaggust ftp mode?"

@voretaq7 yeah lol

Hey! Why you rollback to unfunny question version, @MichaelHampton ? :(

@HopelessN00b I just shot dr. pepper out my nose onto my keyboard.... thanks

fwaggust

shit....

he just created a meme diddnt he

@HopelessN00b be nice, don't make me have to mod-message you :P

After I added our Infoblox (DNS) server to the Forwarders tab for a server in Portugal since NO ONE had any idea how to setup DNS: My boss says this: "We'll have to check how one of the other systems is set up as I don't believe we used forwarders. I think they just do lookups against the Infoblox here."

I'm like...that's a Forwarder...

@Cole jesus kitten-clobbering christ

I'm laughing, what else can I do?

@Cole . . . no, he might mean it just lists you as the nameserver in resolv.conf (or equivalent)

I'm considering using Zimbra for Email. I'm over google

@Cole homicide?

@Jacob I'll be deploying that next quarter

@voretaq7 thought about it

@voretaq7 Right, this would be why I'm hoping he doesn't come back. I know myself too well to imagine that working out well.

(so hurry the fuck up so I can learn from your mistakes, @Jacob)

@voretaq7 ERR K?

@Jacob what? Better your mistakes than my own :-P

@voretaq7 this is how I envision him

how the hell do you think I look so smart? I watch other people deploy things, and then carefully step around the craters from all the landmines they stomped on :-)

@Cole I have something if you're still playing with that.

@jscott fo shizzle

@voretaq7 NO, it'd be better to step in the craters, because you know that the mines in them are gone.

@Jacob yes but then I'm in a crater

I work SO much better from home

Maybe because I have a decent rig :P

@voretaq7 Better than being full of metal shards

if you follow the path the minesweeper's flails marked out you can be reasonably sure of avoiding any mines.

This will blindly set the displayName and cn to "givenName surName" -- you will almost assuredly want to test it with both an known "good" record as well as "bad".

$allUsers = Get-ADUser -Filter * -Properties cn,displayName

foreach ( $u in $allUsers | Where-Object { ($_.givenName) -and ($_.surName) } ) {
    $fn = $u.givenName.Trim()
    $ln = $u.surName.Trim()
    Write-Host $fn $ln
    Set-ADUser -Identity $u -DisplayName "$fn $ln" -PassThru |
        Rename-ADObject -NewName "$fn $ln"
}

@voretaq7 hire kids from africa to help you find the mines, they will work for food

and no one cares when they get blown up!

Not to beat a dead horse or anything but... amazon.com/gp/product/…

@MattBear ^ I'd rather one of those

@Cole It does trim the givenName and surName before using it (hat tip @MDMarra) so it will clean out any leading or trailing spaces.

My suggestion would be to alter $allUsers to only be a subset for testing with.

You almost certainly don't want to walk the entire domain and start munging up admin account, service account, etc.

@voretaq7 yeah, but those cost money, african orphans are free!

@MattBear but I can use the mine-clearing flail on other things. Like my users.

@jscott oh for sure

Oh, it will only rename user that already has both a givenName and surName attributes set.

@voretaq7 I would be carefull using it on your users....

@Tanner Ouch, I didn't know the launch was that bad

their blood could be contagious

@JohnD yeah

it's THAT bad.

@jscott thanks a shit ton

@MattBear the flail cabin is a tank. It's essentially sealed.

This system is registered to Red Hat Subscription Management, but is not receiving updates. You can use subscription-manager to assign subscriptions.

@jscott I certainly owe you and @MDMarra beer.

This system is receiving updates from RHN Classic or RHN Satellite.

@Cole It's nothing. I had it already mostly written. I did something similar months ago. Just had to clean it up a bit.

@jscott super appreciated, it also helps me learn.

@Cole go post a question so he can answer it :P

I've written about ~20 other scripts by myself in the past 1-2 months, I'm pretty proud of it.

@voretaq7 lol will do

@jscott Rep Whoring - you're doing it wrong! Gotta get 'em to post the question first :-P

@voretaq7 @jscott writing the question now

@Cole I don't know if my examples should be used as learning material, unless you're learning ways not to do things. :) Sure, it works, but there's no conditions, error checking, etc. It's typical of all the crap I write.

@jscott it helps A LOT

Stamp with: NOT FOR PRODUCTION USE.

:-P

@jscott Error checking only matters if you're imperfect and think you might make errors. Fortunately, I don't have that problem.

@voretaq7 For anything that will run repeatedly (this example is really a one-off) I would feel that I should at least acknowledge problems and maybe let someone know before I silently push the entire domain through the meat grinder.

@jscott nonsense

@voretaq7 Guess you're right. Could be a new way to test System State restorations!

@jscott Oh, thanks. I was wondering how our domain got into the state it's in. A trip through the meat grinder would explain a lot.

@jscott we always say you should regularly test your restores.... :-D

@HopelessN00b I've been in my present job about 6? 7? years and I still find shit wrong with our domain. It was inherited from NT4 -> 2000 -> 2003 upgrades which I had no part in. I don't think I'll ever "fix" it all.

@jscott serverfault.com/questions/485777/…

@jscott Yeah, that's how our domain is too... plus at least one of the previous SAs used it as a practice lab for MS certs, but given that it started off as an NT domain, there's just no way to completely unfuck it.

Huh... CEO just sent out an email to everyone "urging us" to sign this: nfib.com/balance

@Tanner very GOP

Hmm, on an unrelated note... deploying (VM) server builds from SCCM 2012... anyone have any experience, or opinions on that? I'm trying to figure out why or how this could possibly be preferable to using a vSphere template and customization spec.

your CEO doesn't want to pay more taxes ;-) his vested interest in "not raising [any] taxes" is blindingly obvious hehe

@HopelessN00b we do it from SCCM 2007 and are currently moving to 2012. And we do it simply because all our deployment is managed from one place that way.

@allquixotic Actually, probably not that. The tax code is so ridiculously complicated that any CEO of a decent sized company can avoid paying taxes with a good accountant. Probably more of a small-businesses-worried-about-the-economic-climate thing.

@HopelessN00b using MDT and/or SCCM is ten times more powerful than a template

think gold image + just about any extra driver/tool/app you need..

I've seen runbooks that deploy a entire system center 2012 lab on a single machine via MDT..

There's that too. If we used a template it would include a routine to install SCCM client and promptly start a task list after install. Either way it ends up managed by SCCM so why not start there too.

@pauska How much of a pain int he ass is it? It's probably gonna fall to me to implement, so I'd like to brace myself.

@HopelessN00b Yeah I'm not sure it would affect our CEO personally. I tend to agree, I just don't think [email protected] is the proper forum...

@HopelessN00b MDT 2012 is hands down the best deployment tool I've ever used

@Tanner Probably not, but he's the CEO... whatcha gonna do?

@HopelessN00b The tax code is so ridiculously complicated that anyone with a decent investment portfolio can probably avoid paying taxes if they work at it :P

@pauska Yeah, we don't use MDT, because our client environment's still >95% XP. :(

@HopelessN00b we have deployed 1400 laptops with XP via MDT..

works just fine

wow. Amazon have stopped selling simcity

@pauska Bah, go figure. Guess I got some reading to do, then. Any MDT and/or SCCM books you or @RobM recommend?

ah ty @Tanner

Check out the reviews xD

Especially the most helpful positive review.

@HopelessN00b no books, there's a few good sites out there but the bookmarks are at work and we did the Microsoft SCCM courses.

@Tanner Guess what? If you'd love to experience the nonstop thrills and excitement of SimCity, then please remove $60 from your bank and promptly pay someone to kick you repeatedly in the friggin' mouth.

@RobM Cool, thanks. Will hit up the web instead of looking for a book, in that case.

@HopelessN00b MDT books.. no idea, tons of blog stuff out there. MDT is kind of hack-ish, but it works really really really well

I'm blank on SCCM

IDK why EA thought "online-only" DRM was a good idea

I got over 1000 visits to my website yesterday from reddit. blink

I would not be surprised if this is the least successful SimCity release ever because of it

@voretaq7 because by the time the customer finds out that online only DRM sucks EA already has their money.

@RobM views-whore

@RobM yeah, that's great for the first wave

yes, yes i am :p

but now I don't know anyone who is going to buy it because of the constant problems

@RobM seen the user scores on metacritic? and the shitstorm on twitter? EA really did it this time..

@voretaq7 Same reason anyone thinks using DRM to punish their customers is a good idea. Some overpaid asshat in a suit actually believes their own shit about piracy costing sales, so using DRM to prevent all those lost sales is a no-brainer.

@HopelessN00b I don't object to DRM in general, but online-only for a single-player game? Major fail.

I object to DRM that rootkits my PC. for multiplayer games that demand an always-on connection, that's fine. single-player you just trust the user, period.

@voretaq7 I love the sim city type games. Actually playing theme hospital right now from grand old games. But I really can't see myself going for this always online type of thing. Even without the DRM issues, I play games to get away from other people, not to be forced to interact with them. If I wanted to hear a bunch of teenagers tell me I was a fat cwunt I'd just go to work

I don't need online games for that

@RobM I would love to play SimCity again, but I'm not gonna do it if I can't go sit in a park with my laptop

indeed.

@voretaq7 Depends on the level of DRM. DRM should be used to prevent casual copying, period. But that's not its intent anymore, and that's where the problems arise - from the disc-based ones that would occasionally cause optical discs to shatter to this always-online bullshit... well, it's certainly moved far beyond preventing casual copying.

@HopelessN00b You want to implement DRM? Do it the way the old infocom games used to do

Inside the box is some physical item. At some point in the game you will need to refer to that physical item to proceed.

hell it could be a little circular slide rule that gives you "nuclear launch codes" or something for Sim City

@voretaq7 DRM like this costs companies money... seriously...

"Oh my god, the monsters are invading, enter your nuclear launch code! ABC-[ ]" - get it wrong and your city gets wiped out.

@voretaq7 Problem with that is you can just copy the manual (or memorize the codes)... not that I disgaree.

@MattBear well so does the paper DRM, but you wind up selling more copies of your game.

I mean, I might of downloaded it to see if it was any good, and if it was good, bought it, or waited till the price dropped and get it on steam or somthing

@HopelessN00b This is true, but when there's something like 15000 possible codes (the Life & Death beeper had about that many combos) memorizing it gets pretty difficult

but now, nah

@MattBear Literally, too. You know what the licensing cost on these DRM schemes is? Not cheap - last I checked, it started at $15,000 base, plus a small fee per sale.

and yeah someone could make a photocopy that you put together win a pin and an exact-o knife, but even that casual effort starts getting into "It's easier to buy it"

@HopelessN00b plus the cost of maintaining (and now, building out) the server farm for it

(That was for SecuROM, I think, but they've only gotten pricier.)

@voretaq7 the trick is making a good game, and have additional online online content or interaction that requires an account based off your license key

that's what makes it stupid to me: It's a SINGLE. PLAYER. GAME. You're getting ONE SALE FEE PER USER, and you're going to commit to maintaining a server infrastructure (recurring cost)?

well the server farm is their upgrade path? Want to play sim city in 6 years time? Sorry dude, we turned the servers off when we release sim city 2015. You'll need to buy an upgrade.

So is single player hosted entirely online? Is that what I'm gathering? You don't just check in and then play?

it isnt rocket science.... same as any MMO,

@MattBear Stardock! Love them... hoping they publish another game I want to play soon.

@MattBear that works too. Or a subscription that at least pays for the DRM server and gives you.... something

@Tanner Correct.

@HopelessN00b Sins of a Solar Empire 2

@allquixotic I played that a little....

@MattBear difference is MMOs are inherently multiplayer. It's a bit harder with something like SimCity

not impossible though - lots of ways to hook into the online ecosystem

@allquixotic Yeah, I tried, couldn't get into Sins. Very few RTSes I actually enjoy, and Sins wasn't one.

Fucking collection agencies... Don't ever get a trip to the emergency room in ambulance!!

Hadn't planned to, to be honest. Then I suppose no one else plans to either.

@ewwhite my last ambulance ride the ambulance company tried to bill me for it 4 years later

@ewwhite Yeah, been there, done that. Last time I drove myself. Seriously.

@voretaq7 true, but having an offline mode wouldnt be hard... and connect periodically to stay in sync wouldnt be a problem

My response letter to them was basically "You submitted this claim to my insurance 4 years after the event - I'm not surprised they denied it. Your irresponsibility isn't my problem - feel free to sue me if you'd like but you know you'll lose"

(haven't heard shit since then)

@RobM Probly different in the UK, but over here they charge. Hundreds of dollars. So now I'll drive myself or take a cab.

@MattBear the problem for me is Sim City is not multiplayer by its nature

@HopelessN00b I took a ride in an ambulance once...

@voretaq7 I'm paying this off because my credit is fucked from a 5 year-old ambulance bill

@HopelessN00b yeah it's free in the UK like the rest of the health system.

I could see hacks about your neighbor city & such though

6 broken bones and a concussion... only time I ever actually needed one lol

@ewwhite If you feel they're being stupid dispute it and get it expunged

I'm a total ass to companies that expect me to pay for their stupidity

@voretaq7 it's legit.

@ewwhite legit legit, or legit like mine where yes you needed the ambulance, but they never filed the claim and now your insurance is saying "WTF hell no!"

<grumble> This place. Had to delete the vSphere template I'd been using to deploy servers from, because no one reviewed it. So what did I get done today? One server, with not-even-all-the-Windows-updates installed. >:/ I'm going home.

it's the fucking GASOLINE for the ambulance from this accident!

And I was in between jobs...

and my old company forgot to file COBRA...

and all sorts of shit happened.

giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/revel.1/11523/55890

@ewwhite the....gasoline?

that's not included in the ambulance fee?

@voretaq7 Well, diesel

it was billed separately.

gas, ambulance, ER

that does not look like a fun time even without the daft billing practives

@ewwhite It's kinda cool that you're responsible for a permanent blood stain. Not cool that you had an accident of course, but it's now an indelible mark on everyone who ever uses that course

@ewwhite Damn dude, that's ferocious

@MarkHenderson Except the dude who died there the following season.

@ewwhite Oh shit

That's seriously horrible

Yeah, rough sport?

bad track

@ewwhite You people over exaggerate your "crashes"....

you "spill" on a bicycle :p

just a few scrapes ;)

Oh god... I just got a call asking about "a flashing light that says 'Jew check' on my computer." Turned out to be a Java update.

(jucheck.exe)

Time for lunch :(

@ewwhite What's wrong with lunch?

@84104 it's 4:18pm

@ewwhite Go eat!

Is there any noticeable difference between a HDD with 16MB cache and one with 64MB of cache?

or is it all marketing BS

@ewwhite That's when lunch usually is for me

@David I'm thinking yes, but @Basil probably knows.

@David not so much on modern systems, and it matters less and less the larger amount of page cache you have (which basically means RAM)

I went too far...

(that's when I know I'm tired of work - answering silly questions)

page cache is extremely fast, not sure if it's faster or slower than on-disk cache, but the capacities of on-disk cache make it not incredibly useful because you're probably dealing with tens of gigabytes of data, so unless you have very heavy memory pressure and are doing very frequent I/O on the same few megs of data, a few more MBs of disk cache won't make a huge difference

if disk performance is a real issue for you, just use SSDs... the whole disk is as fast as a HDD's disk cache... problem solved

@allquixotic But GOOD SSD's!!

Not the shitty ones

@ewwhite what's Good SSD's? A restaurant where SSDs serve up data on a platter?

(sorry, just being an arse because you put an apostrophe where it didn't belong)

@allquixotic got it, thanks

"extra cache won't hurt performance; but neither does it greatly improve it" sound about right?

grabbed from SU

@allquixotic Because you're trying to stay TRIM?

@84104 dear lord

Extra cache should not be needed unless you do crazy things like sending 60 MB of random 512 byte sectors. (In which case a drive with 64MB cache could just accept all of them and internally optimise the writing.

work feels so slow

feels like i should have left hours ago

yet i still have 1h25m left

TRIM seems overrated. I have used the same SSD for nearly 4 years now. And it is still damn fast

And no TRIM in windows if you use a HW RAID card

@allquixotic Sorry, I had to share the pain.

@David I have 7 hours to go

Does anyone know of any home / small business ARM routers that run Linux (either out of the box or something you can install) with a fairly nice processor, dual band wifi and a handful of ethernet ports?

I can find dozens of models but they're almost all MIPS and very low-end CPU -- like, my smartphone kills their CPU, many times faster

I suspect the WDR3500 or 3700 will do.

@Hennes MIPS

"I just got a popup asking if I really want to do what I just told my computer to do. Should I say yes?" FFFFUUUUU Windows! If I get that call one more time today...

Hhe, I helped mon and dad today

"The power spupply plugged into your docking station is not powerfull enough to use the dock and charge the computer. Press F1 is you want to continue:"

Help, the computer is broken

@MarkHenderson yuck

Quix: does it have to be ARM? Or any CPU as long as it is fast enough?

@MarkHenderson you actually have work to do? thats why mine sucks, because i rarely ever do

@Hennes the choices I have that I consider acceptable are either ARM or x86(_64), but x86_64 uses much more energy than I'm looking for, while ARM is right in the sweet spot of power consumption while also providing very nice computational power relative to the typical router

basically I want a 2012-era ARM SoC that would normally be used in a tablet or smartphone or set top box, but packaged in a router form factor with a chassis optimized for good antenna reception

If you can get some old soekris boards (VIA CPU's around 600MHz) then those are great.

I was thinking dual core 1.2 GHz or better

and with a bit thicker I/O bus than what you might find with a typical router

My -not yet build- home WAP/NAS will be an Asus E701 netbook (about 4 Watt power for the CPU. More than that from the chipset). (ULV celeron-800 underclocked to 2/3rd of the speed)

Mini ATX ARM dev board ?

@jscott just catching up on earlier stuff. What does -PassThru do, you warlock?

I could of course build a low-end small form factor x86_64 based box, but not only would it far exceed my power and space constraints, but it wouldn't have the best quality that a wifi router can offer, namely, antenna optimization

Aye.

Then again, I was planning to dual use it ( laptop HDD in sleep mode, accesible when needed, monthly backups to 3.5 inch drives (sleep mode 99% of the month) etc

Wireless was an after thought.

In a WAP it is very much the main task

A time capsule :)

Just kidding of course. Except not really

@MDMarra It passes the the output result of the command to the next item in the pipeline that wouldn't normally get passed through

I mostly use it with start-process so that you can then wait-process after it

How do you know that a command doesn't normally pass the output on the pipeline?

Is it in the get-help?

I hate you guys. I used to think I was good at PowerShell.

@MDMarra I.... I don't know haha

I just know one or two specific use cases for it

(fwiw I'm not that good at powershell; I learnt it 12 months ago to try and get a 2nd chance at a FC job, and I use it all the time, but I havent progressed much with it in 12 months)

blogs.technet.com/b/heyscriptingguy/archive/2011/11/18/…

gcm -CommandType 8 | ? {$_.definition -match 'passthru'}

Last day at my current job tomorrow. So far the docket is: 11a meeting with the VP about why I'm leaving. 12n lunch at a BBQ place and beers with my team

That's a pretty full schedule if you ask me

What does gcm do!?

Get-command alias?

@MDMarra Yah, I had to look that up too ;)

alias|?{$_.name -eq "gcm"}

I hate when people use ? And %

It makes it seem inaccessible to a noob. Like how perl feels to me haha

@MDMarra Have you done any perly stuff with vcli?

Nope

@MDMarra but... I love shorthand :p

Never had a large enough cluster to warrant vcli or powercli

I write things like var x = bool?'trueval':'falseval'

I will admit that I tend not to use ? and % in scripts that I am going to sign and ship off to end users

I tend to use it on throwaway scripts or the prompt

God Walmart is an awful place.

Also think I may have ripped something inside my chest shoveling, FML

@Cole Rippin muscles bra

@Cole I have tits, wanna swap?

@JoelESalas I wish, this just hurts lol

Or maybe it's just my nipple gaining sensation. who knows

Just going to ice it and take some Ibuprofen

@MDMarra No Bitchassness, Mark. Remember that.

Never!

(Has anyone figured out what that means yet?)