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3:00 PM

Haha.

Both are nice unless run into.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

my wife saw a person running to catch a streetcar (Tram), who didn't notice another streetcar coming in the other direction, which passed right in front of him, and he ran right into the side of it.

Matt Эллен

ouch!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah. But luckily he wasn't running just a bit faster, or the train would have hit HIM.

btw @Cerb mobilesyrup.com/2013/01/30/…

Wow. Very lucky.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah it's € 544 here...

Ridiculous.

At least it isn't available in the Play Store here, so perhaps some people will buy it.

In Canada, it makes no sense at all.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus It makes no sense to buy it outright. But $150 on contract is a good price.

You don't usually get better prices for bringing your own phone. So if the company offers you effectively $200 off, then why not take it.

3:15 PM

All I know is it should be different!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Hey, at least we have phone number portability now. Used to be you had to change phone numbers when you changed carriers.

Hahaha no way!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

We got portability in 2007

Of course that had to be enforced by the government/EU here. But we have had that for as long as I can remember.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The US didn't have it much sooner than we did either

@Cerberus yeah it took a legal ruling here too.

3:20 PM

Consumer protection and anti-trust are important.

As Adam Smith would have agreed.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox I just noticed this message in my inbox Kit. Storing page content in the DB is fine. It's what just about every major site does. Wordpress blog posts are stored in a database of some kind. So are SE posts. The downside is that updating that content will require a custom tool instead of just a text editor.

I'm worried about connection speeds.

I have a meeting now though.

you really do got a lot of meetings

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Kid's world problems. :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox Oh. Well, don't read it from the DB on every page load. Cache it in memory.

@MετάEd Yeah seriously :)

3:33 PM

man i hate this time of the afternoon. so tired as i digest lunch.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

sigh

Wow. I had no idea Tumbleweeds were common. (Not here. Server Fault.SE.)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> the chair of [Toronto City] council’s parks and environment committee... has no problem with Toronto thinking about how to prepare for the potential consequences of global warming. He’s just doubtful that global warming is a thing.

Hi @Jez

hi

3:37 PM

how are you

@MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

@MετάEd it's practically de rigueur at SO

I'm fine, @Sudhir. Quite busy at work. How are you?

I am good

What you do at your work

?

Matt Эллен

I am a programmer

I mean which language

Matt Эллен

c# and python

3:39 PM

great!

So its programming of website

?

Matt Эллен

some of it, other parts are desktop apps

how is your job hunt going?

you use Notepadd++?

Matt Эллен

I use emacs

Still going

Oh

emacs? heh

Matt Эллен

3:40 PM

chin up! you'll find something

the only good thing about emacs is that it doesn't start off in non-insert mode

I use NP++

Matt Эллен

I used to use NP++, but I find emacs more interesting

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

what? no love for jedit or eclipse around here?

eclipse is rather horrible

i'll take monodevelop

3:42 PM

what's difference between Interface and Abstract class?

@MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

Interfaces are not classes

Interface defines behaviour, nothing more

One of my Interviewers asked

@MattЭллен don't answer his pre-interview homework for him

@Jez:don't worry

google is there to ans my all question

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:44 PM

@Jez I like eclipse. But maybe it isn't as good for non-java devs.

Matt Эллен

there are various differences, but they tend to be implementation detials and syntax details, rather than conceptual. An abscrtact class is a husk you build a full class out of. an interface is a mask that an object can wear.

You know Jquery?

For me its rocket science

Matt Эллен

yeah, to an extent

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

In Java, and also, I suspect, C#, an abstract class can have behaviour and variables, and a subclass can only extend one abstract class. An interface is like a special abstract class with only virtual methods, and you can subclass as many of these as you like.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇:You're programmer?

I seen your ans in SO

@MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

3:48 PM

you see my answers? Good, good :)

yes

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Sudhir yes, Java, Html, JS, CSS, etc. PL/SQL (ugh)

you're a great programmer

Matt Эллен

I'm alright, but thanks :)

PL/SQL, that's Oracle's one isn't it?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:49 PM

@Jez yes

It's my most hated language

I think most of the users of this site are programmers?

@MattЭллен

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

brb

Matt Эллен

I don't know. Most of the people in this chat room programme

@MattЭллен: Can you tell in UK what's the most preference for a graduate guy

Matt Эллен

sorry, I don't know. graduates are a very diverse bunch

3:52 PM

I think most want to go in IT sector

in UK

but nor Iam not sure

@MattЭллен:You use Skype

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Q: When discussing non sequiturs, is a non sequitur made by a participant considered as a non sequitur?

Let's take this conversation: Alice: What is a non sequitur? Bob: A non sequitur is something said that, because of its apparent lack of meaning relative to what preceded it, seems absurd to the point of being humorous or confusing1. In Latin, it means "does not follow". Alice: Oh, ...

Matt Эллен

there is an aspect of IT in all jobs these days, but I think most graduates will start in a non-IT position

Talk about a Jasper question.

@Robusto: Hi

Hullo.

3:55 PM

I am big fan of you

Hullo is a word?

that's amercian eng

@Robusto OP asked me about it. I was on the fence.

Matt Эллен

(Jasper's super hero name is Non Sequitor)

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah, still trying to think all that stuff through.

I liked Eclipse when I used it, back when I wrote Java.

@MattЭллен:What's full form of OP?

Matt Эллен

@Sudhir Opening Poster or Opening Post, depending on context

3:59 PM

@Sudhir Original Poster.

But what's does here mean?

Matt Эллен

definition of here

Grey arrows highlight links.

ok

Which is why you should learn to use them.

4:01 PM

@MattЭллен:How gold is earned ?

Matt Эллен

@Sudhir mining?

@Sudhir Different pronunciation. Dialectical.

no

@Robusto:What's your name?

I mean original

@MattЭллен:how to write precis?

Matt Эллен

@Sudhir you write a summary of the text or speech you're interested in

What're the rules?

Matt Эллен

4:04 PM

I don't know. It's not something I've had to do, sorry

ok

thanks

You are so good

@MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

thanks.

@MattЭлленYou're on skype?

Matt Эллен

No. I'm not on skype

I want that I should learn Eng from you

Matt Эллен

4:07 PM

I'm not really a good teacher. you should find someone local to you

A native speaker of Eng can be as good than a non-native

Its dinner time here

10PM

Matt Эллен

that's bed time for me!

What's time

Matt Эллен

4pm

there?

Matt Эллен

4:09 PM

yes

in the UK

but I go to bed around 10pm

At what time you've your dinner

Matt Эллен

around 6pm

Jan 14 at 15:33, by RegDwighт

No flirting in this chat.

its too early

Matt Эллен

late enough for me :)

4:11 PM

ha ha

So what you eat in your dinner

A middle-tier developer just asked me to hack a form to give him a value. I feel violated.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto you should feel liberated. liberating that value from its html prison

or whereëver it was locked away

@MattЭллен?

So what you eat in your dinner?@MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

Pie and chips.

@Sudhir Settle down.

4:14 PM

@MattЭллен Watch out. Eventually it's going to be like CR asking for your "photography"

Matt Эллен

perhaps. that would be... hmm

undesirable

ok bye

guys

good night

Matt Эллен

have a good meal @Sudhir

still hungry

Thanks a lot @MattЭллен

:)

You didn't gave me your FB

link

@Sudhir Stop.

Matt Эллен

4:17 PM

That's because I am never going to give you my FB link. I thought you understood that from the other times I've refused?

2

yes

Matt Эллен

Good.

I can understand

Matt Эллен

Don't take it to heart. noöne here has my FB link

I just want to see you

Matt Эллен

4:18 PM

this is me

@Sudhir You're being creepy.

you're so good

Matt Эллен

I am a giant green head

(almost) no-one here wants your FB link

Matt Эллен

@Jez true :D

4:19 PM

ok

In general, we don't ask for personal information from other chatters. People volunteer what they are comfortable with.

Iam newbie to this site

Every time I log onto FB I find more people to unfriend.

@Sudhir I know. Newbies especially should observe unobtrusively.

@Robusto Wheat from the chaff.

4:21 PM

@Rob. looks cryptic

I just don't want to have "friends" like that. A friend is someone who will help you move. A real friend is someone who will help you move a body. A Facebook friend is someone who will find out where you moved the body and report you.

7

Today's "creationism is just another way of understanding evolution" platitude today was particularly bad... platitudes.org.uk

@Robusto And troll the shit out of you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Come on. A Facebook friend is someone who will click "like" on your post about moving the body.

@Robusto:Ha ha well said

4:23 PM

@Robusto how very true, i prune my list with regularity

But In my country FB is life for young guys

@Rob coughs, gestures Speaking of friends. And uh. Chatting. With friends.

they can't afford to live without it

@JohanLarsson But do you list your prunes to achieve regularity?

^too advanced English, ParseException in Sweden

4:25 PM

Bye guys

Its too late

Good night

@MattЭллен If you ever need it, mods can warn/kick/suspend people from chat

Matt Эллен

@simchona thanks :) I hope it never comes to that!

@MattЭллен Me too, but if it repeats (like it seems to) just let us know

Matt Эллен

OK

ok, I'm on the move. Talk to y'all later

Matt Эллен

4:27 PM

CU!

@JohanLarsson Download the pun module for your parser.

I prefer the pun filter for my browser

headdesk

My fault?

@Rob I'm surreptitiously signaling you.

4:30 PM

@KitFox Can't get there from here.

Shit.

Can I assist?

Not convenient right now. Lotsa people here.

So noted. Thanks anyway.

4:50 PM

GTG

@Cerberus you're the specialist for this english.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/19853

I don't know jack about Latin.

Gotta commute, lators!

5:37 PM

"Centripical". Thank you Faith Hill.

@RegDwighт I see Sim has already rejected the edit, and I sort of agree.

The original was not entirely right, but not entirely wrong either. The correction was too much.

6:36 PM

Hi

@Cerb: petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/…

@Robusto Great!

Too bad I can't vote.

Then again, I'm glad I won't go to jail.

@Cerberus I think you can still sign a petition, though

But not one of those White House thingies, right?

I am more than willing to sign petitions.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus You would have to lie about your Zip code

6:41 PM

The Zip code is not compulsory.

But it won't let me create an account.

It says my e-mail address has already been registered.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus maybe you already have an account

But Lastpass says no, and neither of my common passwords is recognised.

Have you created an account?

OK, so my default page content retrieves fine, but the second page of content: nothing.

tears second page to pieces, eats some of them

Cerb! You're making a mess.

6:53 PM

wonders how many stomachs a three headed dog has, anyway

Sowwy.

I just have three heads, not three stomachs. I'm not a cow, for crying out loud.

Matt Эллен

cowdog!

cries out loud to the moon, or whatever one is supposed to do in this situation

@MattЭллен !

Cowface!

Matt Эллен

Faceface

defeated

Matt Эллен

6:57 PM

stands victorious like a tiny crab atop a sand dune

lies on back, sticks paws in the air, pretends to be dead

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