English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2012-12-31 (page 6 of 6)

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8:00 PM

@tchrist > December 31, 2012--I am now 80 years old. I remember when I was about 14 years old that after I had baked a birthday cake and friends had sampled it, I was asked if it was from a mix (very popular at that time) and I replied:

"Oh! No! I baked it from scratch. Since we did not have a T.V., I often wondered where I could have heard that phrase. I do remember the thought of my chickens scratching for their goodies. I wonder now as I hear the phrase more often just where it did originate and when"

Matt Эллен

yay! my question got downvoted for no reason!

so that makes her born in 1932 and a teenager in the 40's. no One had TV's then. How would 'she get 'baked it from scratch' from TV then?

She's obviously Carlo R.

This has potential. Will see what other suggestions come through. — mrtsherman 1 min ago

@MattЭллен I bet she just down voted your question.

Not potential enough for an upvote though.

Matt Эллен

8:02 PM

@Mitch you're obviously inspector clueso

@KitFox harumph

@KitFox potentially a useless comment.

Not that it matters since I'm capped anyway.

@KitFox but not capped for hats?

There's just one vote that I crave. One vote that will get me a hat.

Matt Эллен

the vote that all teenagers crave

8:03 PM

> A drunken night makes a cloudy morning.

Matt Эллен

best to have a drunken morning then :D

> As deep drinketh the goose as the gander, he.

> As drunk as a Banbury tinker.

I spent the hurricane in Banbury.

@MattЭллен Is this a breakfast cereal?

It made me quite cross.

> As drunk as a tinker’s bitch. [East Anglia,]

Matt Эллен

@Mitch "Acceptance. Part of a nutritious breakfast! With added vitamins and irony"

8:05 PM

> As ye have brewed, so shall ye drink.

> Halesworth for a drunkard, and Bil borough for a whoro.

@MattЭллен Keeps crunchy in sulk.

Matt Эллен

:D

> Better belly burst than good drink lost.

> Clothe thee warm, eat a little, drink enough, and thou shalt live.

You can't have your cake and eat it too? I just ate it and had it.

It’s eat your cake and keep it, too.

> Contempt will cause spite to drink of her own poison.

> Drink washes off the daub, and discovers the man.

> Drink wine, and have the gout ; drink none, and have it too.

8:08 PM

OK so I finally caught up with my screwing around, and now I can get back to wasting time before I can really get to procrastinating.

5

> Drunkenness turns a man out of himself, and leaves a beast.

OK...

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Q: Can the verb "wonder" simply take an object?

In this question, the questioner states I wonder the origin of the word. Can wonder take a simple object like that? Or should it be wonder about or wonder at or something similar (or something else)? Wonder can certainly be used in other constructions: I wonder if that’s right. ...

grammar verbs object

> He is not drunk gratis who pays his reason for his shot.

Don't be too harsh whith a first question!

@AndrewLeach What saith the OED?

> He that killeth a man when he is drunk shall be hanged.

8:10 PM

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Q: Quality standards seem to be a bit high these days

My question was: "Remove unnecessary step" phrase synonym What is another way of saying "remove unnecessary step"? But the posting page doesn't let it through. Is the question really bad and doesn't meet certain quality standards, or it contains no-no words?

@tchrist If I had access to the OED, then I'd have looked at it.

Oh the irony.

@tchrist ODO says No.

> 1. intr. To feel or be affected with wonder; to be struck with surprise or astonishment, to marvel. Also occas. to express wonder in speech. a. in OE. const. genitive of the object of wonder, also with preps., now nearly always at, occas. over, formerly also on, upon, of.

I wonder that I shall ever get that last vote.

8:13 PM

> † 3. trans. To regard with wonder; to marvel at: often implying profound admiration (cf. wonder sb. 7 c). Obs.

No, wait. That's not right.

I wonder that my children are so sweet.

@AndrewLeach OED says “not lately”. :)

1535 Coverdale Ecclus. ix. 8 ― Many a man wonderinge the bewtye of a straunge woman, haue bene cast out.
1567 Painter Pal. Pleas. II. 156 b, ― That which was more to be wondred in hym.
1593 R. Barnes Parthenophil xxvi. in Arber’s Garner V. 354 ― If She be silent, every man in place With silence, wonders her!
1631 Heywood 2nd Pt. Fair Maid West i. C 2, ― Goodl. You wonder me. Mull. No, thou art dull, or fearfull, fare thee well.
1821 Lamb Elia Ser. i. My first Play, ― I knew nothing, understood nothing, discriminated nothing. I felt all, loved all, wondered all.

Matt Эллен

I am a bit old fashioned when I write

Although the 19th century is not too far now.

"I wonder that..." is not a simple concrete object. I'm actually quite happy with poetic uses, but I was goaded, Your Honour.

8:14 PM

> If you drink in your pottage you’ll cough in your grave.

> Yet drink we must, to slacken sorrow.

> Often drunk and seldom sober, / falls like the leaves in October.

> She holds up her head like a hen drinking water.

> To drink to one’s oysters.

Ok, I give up: what does that one mean? Drinking to one’s oysters??

> When one biddeth thee, it is no sin to drink.

@KitFox Ha ha! "WTF. This place is too good'

These are all historical English proverbs and sayings involving drink.

> Wine that costs nothing is digested ere it be drunk.

Matt Эллен

oysters and Guinness is meant to be an aphrodisiac

@tchrist Oh come on that is way too obvious.

> When the drink goes in, the wit goes out.

> You must drink another yard of pudding first. [E. Anglia.]

One drinks pudding by the yard in East Anglia? How does that work?

8:19 PM

@tchrist None of these make any sense. Like an old Uncle mumbling to himself.

A yard of ale, sure. But a yard of pudding?

Matt Эллен

they're a strange folk

I mean, if you're coughing in your grave, what about that is so bad?

> Rasp the scythe : drink some cyder. [S. Devon.]

As though Devon were large enough to need a “South” part.

Matt Эллен

Cheers to Devon!

8:20 PM

Cider sounds good, though.

I enjoyed Devon.

raises glass cheers!

cornbread ninja

A desk of Cheez-its.

eats cheez-itz Cheers!

I was just talking to my husband about yard measurements.

@Mitch The BBC launched its TV service in 1936 and relaunched it after the War in 1946. My grandparents ran an electrical retailers and were selling TV sets prior to the comparatively huge surge in use prior to the Coronation in 1953. It would be possible in the UK for a teenager in the 40s to have seen TV.

8:21 PM

@KitFox measures yards Cheers!

OK, I already tried.

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Q: "Remove unnecessary step" phrase synonym

I'm looking for another way of saying "remove unnecessary step". I tried looking in online dictionaries, but the initial phrasing is not very good to find relevant results.

Someone else take a turn?

> After melon, wine is a felon.

> After pear, wine or the priest.

@AndrewLeach wow. I had no idea.

After Mellen?

cornbread ninja

@Mitch what are you drinking? strawberry wine here.

8:22 PM

> As welcome as sour ale in summer.

> Banbury ale, a half-yard pot, / the devil a tinker dare stand to't.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox oh yes, I don't normally drink wine.

Banbury certainly shows up in a lot of old rhymes.

> Bread of a day, ale of a month, and wine of a year.

@cornbreadninja blurgh

> Commend not your wife, wine, nor house.

cornbread ninja

@Mitch it's tasty.

8:24 PM

> Every tub smells of the wine it holds.

Beer glassware comprises the drinking vessels made of glass designed or commonly used for drinking beer. Different styles of glassware exist for a number of reasons: they may reflect national traditions; they may reflect legislation regarding serving measures; they may relate to practicalities of stacking, washing and avoiding breakage; they may promote commercial breweries; they may be folk art, novelty items or used in drinking games; and they may complement different styles of beer for a variety of reasons, including enhancing aromatic volatiles, showcasing the appearance, and/or havi...

There we are.

I remember yard contests.

cornbread ninja

is tchrist broken?

> Good wine needs no bush.

user19161

@KitFox There is even a phrase beer glassware!

@cornbreadninja No, he does this all the time.

8:24 PM

@cornbreadninja sweet wines...just ruining good ...whatever it came from.

cornbread ninja

oh, say, I think I read you had a fever again? @tchrist

user19161

Why not water glassware?

> He that drinks not wine after salad is in danger of being sick.

> He that is fit to drink wine must have sugar on his beard, his eyes in his pockets, and his feet in his hands.

@tchrist I'm in big big trouble then

cornbread ninja

sugarbeard! mmmmm :d

8:25 PM

> He’s as brisk as bottled ale.

user19161

@tchrist You must have fallen sick because of that.

@cornbreadninja handfeet!

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A: a word/couple to express eagerness to win

Ambitious describes an eagerness to succeed and also implies that success has not yet been attained.

> Spilt wine is worse than water.

coughs

points

begs

8:26 PM

@KitFox what, did you drink in your pottage?

> The wine in the bottle doth not quench thirst.

cornbread ninja

<-- already upvoted

same here.

Of course. Of course you all did. You are nice people. I think I need to go back to rehab.

@tchrist ok ok ok. did you google for 'wine drink proverb'?

8:27 PM

@Mitch Bah.

cornbread ninja

@Mitch it's not that sweet.

> Turkies, carps, hops, pickerel, and beer, / came into England all in one year.

@KitFox Somehow I imagine rehab as summer camp, all the anxiety and half maturity and possibilities, without any of the freedom, and realizing that the counselors are just in it for the money.

Yay—wha—? Badge...no hat?

> Wine by the savour, bread by the colour.

8:29 PM

@KitFox wait a moment. I noticed it takes a couple minutes before the script runs again.

> The counsels that are given in wine / Will do no good to thee or thine.

> Women, money, and wine, / have their good and their pine.

@Mitch breathes into paper sack

> You cannot hide an eel in a sack.

@MattЭллен You'll be pleased to know that my question has two diametrically-opposed answers.

> Wine hath drowned more men than the sea: / Wine is a turncoat : first a friend, then an enemy.

> Wine that costs nothing is digested ere it be drunk.

user19161

8:32 PM

@tchrist Money can buy wine, wine can buy women and women can buy money.

> Wine, wood, women, and water. [Herefordshire]

@AndrewLeach Wahoo! That will get you on the multicollider for sure!

@tchrist gin. you haven't looked for gin.

@JasperLoy an arbitrage churning cycle!

@Mitch Too new.

You did beer already, right? What about mead?

user19161

8:34 PM

@Mitch So I get it all for free!

Matt Эллен

There once was a poet of Banbury
who ate only mushrooms and cranberry
He didn't get fat
But people thought that
His rhymes would be better in Anbury

@AndrewLeach excellent :D

user19161

@MattЭллен Another Mimerick!

user19161

It's now time for a Jimerick!

> Little mead, / little need. [Somerset]

There are 17 proverbs with Banbury in them.

cornbread ninja

!

I want to go to there: rocheport.com/2010/07/amber-house

we've been drinking the local wine.

@MattЭллен nice

Matt Эллен

8:42 PM

thanks :D

unfortunately "Anbury" isn't a place.

but it'll do

cornbread ninja

dang.

user19161

@MattЭллен I have written several Jimericks in this chat, to the horror of many...

Yay! Yay for hats!

Matt Эллен

Yay!

@MattЭллен But there are two Hanburys (Staffordshire and Worcestershire).

Matt Эллен

8:46 PM

@AndrewLeach ah! That's much better. I couldn't find a list of *burys

@MattЭллен gazetteer.co.uk allows wildcards.

> As near akin as the cates of Banbury to the bells of Lincoln.

@tchrist I suppose I could treat capitalization as an emphasis. But there is a good argument that it should really be the other way around.

> As sharp as if he lived on Tewkesbury mustard.

Tewkesbury? Is it still spelled that way?

Matt Эллен

@AndrewLeach nice!

8:48 PM

> As old as Glastonbury Tower.

@tchrist Yes.

> Bloomsbury birds.

> Tewkesbury is a fair market-town in this county [Gloucestershire]noted for the mustard-balls made there, and sent into other parts. This is spoken partly of such who always have a sad, severe, and terrific countenance. Si eoastor hie homo sinapi viotitet, non oenseam tarn tristem esse posse. Plaut. in Trueul. Partly of such as are mappish, captious, and prone to take exceptions.

There may be some bad OCRage there.

Implementation implemented.

‘Mappish’, eh?

> Like Bucklersbury in simple time.

Matt Эллен

Archive archivated

8:51 PM

@MattЭллен And Henry may have justified the use of wonder with a simple object.

>

> "Something made me jump. I wonder what." – Henry 5 mins ago

Oh how could we have forgotten Salisbury?

Matt Эллен

@AndrewLeach oh! that's good.

> Northern sweet music / and Didsbury pans : / Cheadle old kettles / and Stockport old cans.

Didsbury.

> Women are born in Wiltshire, / brought up in Cumberland, / lead their lives in Bedfordshire, / bring their husbands to Buckingham, / and die in Shrewsbury.

Is that saying they become shrews?

Live in beds?

Have bucks for huspands?

I’d best stop now while I’m behind.

There’s a Lipsbury.

> If Cadbury and Dolbury dolven were, / all England might plough with a golden share. [Devonshire]

They rhymed were with share!

I think.

You know, dolven isn’t a word oft heard these days.

Usually we just call them delphs.

Do we?!

I did that on porpoise.

@Kit Don’t you dare go making me dream up ten more questions!

8:59 PM

I don't even know how you could.

Pure cussedness.

Question for @MattЭллен: Is Shrewsbury really pronounced Shrozbury?

Matt Эллен

Yes

Or Shrozbry?

Matt Эллен

well

9:01 PM

Unless you come from there. Then it's Shrewsbury.

Matt Эллен

the o is like the end of show

Commutes. See you all later.

@AndrewLeach No, really? Is this the new say-it-as-it’s-spelt thing from newcomers?

Lates.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox CU. Hope you have a fab new year's eve if we don't chat before

9:02 PM

I’ve heard some of the old towns in Britain are getting re-pronounced by people knowing only the spelling, as more people move there.

Matt Эллен

that's probably the case

@Robusto Like sew, sewn then, I guess.

Yes.

@tchrist Well, yes and no. There's a village near me spelled Burwash, but people from there pronounce it as one syllable. No-one else does.

Probably less broad of an o. I would write it in IPA but I disdain such strategies.

@AndrewLeach And there's a town in Massachusetts called Berlin, which is accented on the first syllable.

9:05 PM

The American versions of the same name are often re-pronounced per their spelling. But you never know. Des Moines in Iowa is still just Damoin, but Des Plaines in Illinois is Dezplainz.

Shrewsbury is a nice round O unless you come from there, when it's nearer (but not quite) a schwa-like sound.

Similarly, Worcester is Wooster both in Massachusetts and in England.

Where isn’t it Wooster?

Beats me.

Hm, as in look not as in loom or poor.

Wustasher Shaush.

9:07 PM

You've been at the shaush if you say it like that.

Supposedly Twain tweaked one of his British friends by feigning no knowledge of the place known as Niagara Falls. After several attempts by the Brit to explain to him what location he meant, Twain exclaimed, "Oh, you mean Niffles!"

Heh.

user19161

Niagara falls means the boy named Niagara falls down.

There are no downs in North America.

Nor moors nor heaths.

I don’t know why.

It is not for want of heather.

Jasper hates the unbearable lightness of badinage, and always brings the conversation right down to the ground, hard.

9:09 PM

Although we do have precious few Moors.

You can moor your boat here, but you can't boat your Moor.

@JasperLoy Why did he name them "down"?

Matt Эллен

Jasper Falls?

Frequently.

It is probably some dumb political correctness collectivism claptrap forbidding us from coming down on the Moors, or mooring the Down’s Syndromers. Or both: the Moors with chromosome anomalies. Surely we would not allow those here.

user19161

9:13 PM

@MattЭллен He doesn't fall; he is fallen.

> The hind had as lief see / his wife on a bier, / As that Candlemas Day / should be pleasant and clear.

Well, there’s beer and then there’s bier.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy Stollen?

@MattЭллен Fruitcake.

Matt Эллен

@tchrist no need to get personal! ;)

No flirting in this chat.

9:15 PM

You can't spell Moor without Moo.

Matt Эллен

quite

@Robusto Musulman.

Matt Эллен

You can spell boar without boo

@MattЭллен But not boor.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto frightfully

9:16 PM

:7475437 Hold that thought.

He has already stollen away his own post. There is nought left to see.

Et tu.

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Q: Few lawyers die well, few physicians live well

What is the meaning of the proverb "Few lawyers die well, few physicians live well"? I think "few physicians live well" has to do with the fact that the salary of physicians was once very low, but what about the "few lawyers die well" part? And the meaning of the proverb overall?

Matt Эллен

mais oui

Oh my.

I've never heard that proverb. I don't think it even makes sense.

And so it begins.

The great unproverbing of our time.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto nor I

9:18 PM

> A good lawyer, an evil neighbour.

> A man is either a fool or a physician after thirty years of age.

Well, here's a reference.

> An old physician, a young lawyer.

> An old physician, because of his experience ; a young lawyer, because of having but little practice, will have leisure enough to attend to your business ; and desiring thereby to recommend himself, and get more, will be very diligent in it. The Italians say: An old physician, a young barber.

> Do not dwell in a city whose governor is a physician.

I dunno. I read some of these proverbs and I haven't a clue what they're on about.

Yes, half-exactly the point. The meaning can be lost with time.

> God heals, and the physician hath the thanks.

Although that one is clear.

Matt Эллен

so lawyers die poor and doctors live poor?

9:21 PM

> He has as many tricks as a lawyer.

> Poverty is the mother of health.

Really?

More people have perished of famine than all else put together.

But today we are most of us overfed.

> Honour a physician before thou hast need of him.

> Lawyers’ gowns are lined with the wilfulness of their clients.

user19161

Most sayings are not true because they are uttered by stupid people who think they are very smart.

> Lawyers’ houses are built on the heads of fools.

@JasperLoy You have said dafter things, but not often.

> The king can make a serjeant, but not a lawyer.

@tchrist Word.

9:23 PM

Lawyers cannot make sarjes. Got it.

> With respect to the gout, / the physician is but a lout.

> Where the sun enters, the doctor does not.

user19161

Wait where are you getting all these from @tch?

> With one child you may walk ; with two you may ride ; / when you have three, at home you must bide. [Cornwall]

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> You are one of those lawyers that never heard of Littleton.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto doctors are vampires?

Littleton?

9:25 PM

@MattЭллен That must be it.

@JasperLoy Englande.

user19161

@tchrist From Barrie!

I live next door to Littleton.

I drive through Littleton en route to the commuted worksite.

We must be neighbors.

I used to work in Littleton, in fact.

That was a sweet commute.

9:28 PM

From English proverbs and proverbial phrases, of course.

English Proverbs
PROVERBIAL PHRASES
COLLECTED FROM THE MOST AUTHENTIC SOURCES
ALPHABETICALLY ARRANGED
AND ANNOTATED

user19161

By the way, what is considered a "high rep user" on an SE site? 10k?

Matt Эллен

3K?

people who can vote to close, I suppose

> FIVE and twenty years have elapsed since Messrs. Reeves and Turner published an edition of 1,500 copies of the present work, exhibiting a text very greatly improved and enlarged, both in the Catalogue and Notes, of the original issue of the volume in 1869, when I had already done all that I reasonably could to render the treatment complete.

Call no man high ere his twenty-thousandth rep-league come to full fruit and flower.

@JasperLoy Everyone with more rep than you.

user19161

@Robusto This question and answer should be posted on MSO for greater visibility.

9:35 PM

@JasperLoy A user with rep that blazes every so often

9:47 PM

With your background, then if you would like to do a Good Deed, you might please consider editing the missing tag wikis for the various tags relating to rhetorical figures: anacoluthon, antanaclasis, antimeria, antiphrasis, asyndeton, catachresis, hyperbaton, hyperbole, irony, litotes, paraprosdokian, paronomasia, polysyndeton, syllepsis, synecdoche, and zeugma all exist, but have no tag wikis. Please help us out and add ones for those. Thanks. — tchrist 1 min ago

> Many have asked. Does a scope and lens really help? Heck yes it does!! I miss a lot more accurately now.

The omitted word is having.

That is why it takes singular concordance.

Hm, is it nuttery-buggery or buggery-nuttery?

I opted for the former, but suppose some argument might be made for the latter.

@tchrist You left out anaphora.

anaphora-bananaphora?

@Robusto It is not an existing tag.

10:01 PM

Or bananaphora-anaphora?

That looks like part of the punchline to a Sheila knock-knock joke.

Matt Эллен

Hope y'all have a fun new year's eve. I'm off to stand near people I don't know. Wish me luck!

Luck is a lady.

Puck is a scamp.

The other, I leave to you.

@Rob I just got spammed by <mail@therobustoroom.com>; any coincidence there?

From:          Peter Roth <mail@therobustoroom.com>
To:            <tchrist@perl.com>
Date:          Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:23:39 CST
Delivery-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:34:04
Subject:       NYE Block Party at The Robusto Room & Swingers

I didn't spam you. Don't know who or what that could be.

Weird stuff.

10:07 PM

A robusto is a kind of cigar, so maybe it's a cigar bar?

Swingers, eh.

Now I have to figure out why it scored negative 1.2 on the spamometer.

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02,
               HTML_MESSAGE,MAY_BE_FORGED autolearn=no version=3.3.0

@Robusto Seems to be. Subtitled “Stogies & Bogeys”.

Like I’m a smoker. Sheesh.

What's the spamometer? Is that in Gmail?

It’s the spamassassin score.

It's a Baysian NLP Ham/Spam model?

10:10 PM

I bounce my incoming mail that gets otherwise vetted through it. I turn away about 10,000 pieces before it hits it.

@simchona Yes, that’s right.

For example, here’s a recent one it zapped:

X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=17.7 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_40,DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX,
               FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE
               autolearn=spam version=3.3.0

Each of those in the list contributes a certain value plus or minus. It is all cranked through a machine-learning model to make for few false negatives and false positives.

That's interesting. So it presumably weights every factor in order to determine which is more likely to indicate spam?

Yes, that is exactly correct. You have not heard of it? I should look up a link. It is quite sophisticated.

Here is an expansion, for example:

       *  6.4 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT
       *      [67.228.245.115 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org]
       *  3.4 DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX Date: is 96 hours or more before Received: date
       * -0.0 BAYES_40 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 20 to 40%
       *      [score: 0.2852]
       *  5.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at dnswl.org, low
       *      trust
       *      [67.228.245.115 listed in list.dnswl.org]
       *  0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS

I haven't heard of it, but it makes sense. I've taken AI and NLP (and just finished NLP) so it's kind of like using what I learned

Congrats on finishing NLP!

SpamAssassin is a computer program released under the Apache License 2.0 used for e-mail spam filtering based on content-matching rules. It is now part of the Apache Foundation. SpamAssassin uses a variety of spam-detection techniques, that includes DNS-based and fuzzy-checksum-based spam detection, Bayesian filtering, external programs, blacklists and online databases. The program can be integrated with the mail server to automatically filter all mail for a site. It can also be run by individual users on their own mailbox and integrates with several mail programs. SpamAssassin is highl...

Haha thanks.

10:14 PM

> SpamAssassin was awarded the Linux New Media Award 2006 as the "Best Linux-based Anti-spam Solution".

@simchona NLP is applied to humans (self) right?

I don’t know that it is “Linux-based”, since I am not running Linux, but still. :)

I use a greylister integrated into my packet filter and SMTP daemon which turns aside most spam, and is much more efficient. You do not want to receive and process the spam, which with SpamAssassin, you have to. Costs too much. Better to bounce via greylisting. And just about infinitely simpler. Only stuff that makes it past that gets fed to SpamAssassin.

@JohanLarsson No, I meant Natural Language Processing.

Natural language processing

Natural language processing (NLP) is a field of computer science, artificial intelligence, and linguistics concerned with the interactions between computers and human (natural) languages. As such, NLP is related to the area of human–computer interaction. Many challenges in NLP involve natural language understanding -- that is, enabling computers to derive meaning from human or natural language input. An [[automated online assistant providing customer service on a web page, an example of an application where natural language processing is a major component.]] History The history of NLP ge...

ok, Viterbi et al.?

Hey, Johan is a semi-regular!

10:23 PM

@JohanLarsson Yes. Related topics would be automatically summarizing a bunch of articles, or trying to parse a sentence, or voice recognition like Siri.

@simchona That sounds like so much fun, my only regret in life is spending so much time learning and unlearning physics. Should have been AI :)

I saw a cool paper on review spam, like for hotels and restaurants and such. Turns out you can tell (to a certain confidence) in an automated way which ones are likely bogus reviews made just to cheat.

@JohanLarsson Never too late to learn :]

@tchrist Yup. Can use a combination of sentiment analysis and summarization

It was more more than that. They had a bunch of features, many of which were not what I would have expected, but which in retrospect make sense.

Let me find it for you. I think you would like it.

@Sim Finding Deceptive Opinion Spam by Any Stretch of the Imagination.

10:40 PM

@tchrist I'll take a look. Thanks!

You’re welcome.

11:09 PM

@MattЭллен They make scotch for 12 year olds?

11:25 PM

@Mitch It would have been more suspicious if she had said she DID have a TV in 1946. Saying that she DID NOT have a TV in 1946 seems completely unsuspicious to me. Just like I did not have broadband internet access in 1972.

But feel free to now accuse ME of being Carlo, if you so wish.

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