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3:01 AM
sigh I need 46 more answers in to go gold there. Hardly seems worth it. Or possible.
 
@Reg I need some help getting information about Valentina Gagarina (Yuri's wife)
 
Ew.
 
english-language sources are almost completely devoid of details about her
 
Good luck...
 
Hey, does anybody know whether the French queue should be /kœ/ or /kø/ in IPA?
 
3:04 AM
 
I am not very good with French phonology in general, let alone finding the right IPA.
 
i assume she's about the same age as gagarin, but i can't confirm this
@tchrist french phonology is a demonic trap meant to torment the unrighteous
 
Jeune has /œ/, but jeûne and ceux have /ø/.
 
ø
 
Close mid front rounded vowel.
Instead of open mid front rounded vowel.
No, sorry.
Open-mid font, not open mid-front.
 
3:06 AM
That's how we pronounce the word in Dutch, and I believe it is the regular pronunciation: we have the same eu's as they do.
 
Crud!
 
Queue de Paris.
 
@tchrist Crudités!
 
South Africans have [bøːd] for bird. Gosh!
 
Note: doesn't rhyme with Luddites.
 
No, crudités has /y/.
 
Don't click penser avec sa queue.
 
I don’t have a problem with saying it. I can say it, and she sounds like I would say it.
I just don’t now the IPA for that sound.
 
Does anyone else find the modern iTunes visualizer boring? I like the original better.
 
Does anyone use Itunes?
 
3:09 AM
I do.
 
Flash another ROM on your Ipod and be done with Itunes for good!
It is said to be an awakening.
 
Why would I want that? I love my iPod.
 
Ok, peu is definitely [pø].
 
Yes, there are rules for when it's ø and when œ.
Probably œ before molenaar.
(Nasals and liquidae.)
Seul, jeune, leur...
All œ.
Hmm actually Dutch makes a different distinction.
 
Have you ever heard that parlais and parlé used to have slightly different vowels, the first a bit more open?
Perhaps they still do, I dunno.
I never was taught to say them differently.
 
3:13 AM
I was taught to pronounce parlais like parlet.
 
Ahah!
 
But...I find the differences subtle and less clear in practice.
I once asked a question about this on FLU.
 
You know, this is Round 2 today on whether /e/ and /ɛ/ are easy to hear.
 
Yes.
 
And /ø/ and /œ/ are just the rounded versions of those two.
No wonder it is hard!
 
3:15 AM
Well...
 
But allegedly jeune and jeûne are a minimal pair.
 
/e/ just doesn't occur in our languages without /i/.
 
Not for normal folks, no.
I make no claims about the Scots. :)
 
Sounds plausible, although jeûne is not exactly a common word.
 
Right.
 
3:17 AM
But somehow French eu makes sense.
I don't think I find it hard to pick the right one.
 
jeûne is a fast, right? With a verb to go with it?
I wonder where it comes from.
 
Yes.
From Latin ieiun-.
Jejune.
 
> From Latin iēiūnium (“fast”), from iēiūnus (“hungry, abstinent”) or from the verb jeûner.
 
That's what I said.
 
Yep.
 
3:20 AM
Bonne nuit.
 
Jejune is quite rare in English, especially non-catechrestically.
> b. Puerile, childish; also, naïve. ¶ This use may owe its origin to the mistaken belief that the word is connected with L. juvenis young (comp. junior), or F. jeune young.
 
Not so rare, apparently, or I wouldn't think of it.
Bonne nuit!
 
Night, Rob.
 
@tchrist My first encounter with that word was in a detective novel, believe it or not. I wish I could remember which one.
 
@tchrist this is the only meaning i'm familiar with. the catechristic meaning is new to me
 
3:20 AM
And now I'm out. Like a light.
 
> 2. Deficient in nourishing or substantial (physical) qualities; thin, attenuated, scanty; meagre, unsatisfying; (of land) poor, barren.
That is the normal one.
Not the kitty one.
> 3. a. Unsatisfying to the mind or soul; dull, flat, insipid, bald, dry, uninteresting; meagre, scanty, thin, poor; wanting in substance or solidity. Said of thought, feeling, action, etc., and esp. of speech or writing; also transf. of the speaker or writer. (The prevailing sense.)
 
It's catachrestic...
@JSBձոգչ But...that is the catachrestic meaning, isn't it?
 
Right cata.
Not cate.
Here are the catachrestic cites, which are no longer considered such:
1898 G. B. Shaw Arms & Man ii. 29 ― His jejune credulity as to the absolute value of his concepts.
1975 Economist 22 Nov. 14/1 ― Is anybody··now so jejune as not to realise that the state ownership of the deadweight of present nationalised industries must prevent Labour governments from being able to follow··their social policies.
1982 N.Y. Times Mag. 8 Aug. 10 ― Other people··write in to correct you if you define the word··‘jejune’ as ‘childish’.
1982 M. Howard Eppie (1983) xxxiii. 271 ― Mother seemed jejune, at times, with her enthusiasms and her sense of mission.
The NYTM one is amusing.
I think of jejune as insipid.
I didn’t know its origin though.
@Cerberus No, it is a very exotic word for most native speakers. I would be surprised if one in a thousand knew it.
 
I did not know the catachrestic use.
@tchrist But I must have seen it in books.
Used correctly.
 
There may be some mental crosstalk with jaundiced and weak, yellowed things.
 
3:27 AM
Why do you think so?
@tchrist So do I, or meagre.
If I may commit a semi-Batavism.
 
I am trying to guess what the kitties were thinking.
 
What kitties?
She's not here.
 
Those committing catachresis.
Meagre but not quite manqué? :)
> 1974 Listener 26 Sept. 408/3 ― Was Lady O a courtesan manquée?
I wonder whom they were talking about!
 
@tchrist we haven't learned about xargs, by the way
 
3:32 AM
The leader of Hamas, with the highest clerics of the Gaza Strip, presumably (the left one is Greek-Orthodox Archbisshop Alexeios).
 
@cornbreadninja Oh, sorry!!!!
 
@tchrist 0_0 no, I'm very grateful
 
I just can't help but wonder what he'd have us do.
 
With Arafat's sister.
 
3:33 AM
Uh oh.
 
What uh-oh?
 
Did they announce the tox results or something?
 
I don't think so.
But Meshal has returned to Gaza for the first time in 45 years.
 
 
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5:49 AM
@Robusto I don't visualize stuff in iTunes. I like the new interface, but I find it hard to navigate from one place to another in some cases.
 
6:12 AM
@Cerberus I do and I have the latest version of it.
@Robusto Do they believe in anything at all?
 
7:06 AM
Hi @Mahnax
 
@DavidWallace Hello!
How are you?
 
I'm OK thanks; I'm doing much better.
How's the job?
 
Oh, I'm glad to hear that!
The job is going quite well, I'd say.
 
Have you made lots of new friends there?
 
Not exactly, but it's only been a week.
I get along with everyone well so far though.
 
7:13 AM
That's good. It's important at work, I think, to get on with people.
 
I agree. Hostility towards one another in a workplace is never good.
 
Been there!
 
Same.
 
What are your plans for Christmas?
 
I think I will be working a fair bit over the break, but I will also be doing a few things for school and maybe I'll even relax a bit.
You?
 
7:18 AM
Yeah, I know what HE would want to do. There's a combined fun park and swimming pool complex about 3.5 hours drive from here. He would want us to just spend every day there.
I don't know whether I have the energy though. I am getting old. And I don't like swimming pools very much.
 
Well, that is a fairly normal desire for a 12[?] year old.
@DavidWallace Well, I recommend giving it some thought, but maybe it's not my place to say so.
 
11. Yes. I shall try to think of something that we haven't done together before.
I'm not very good at thinking of fun stuff to do with him.
 
@DavidWallace That sounds like a good idea.
 
I am going to have to negotiate with the ex-wife. This is unfamiliar territory for me.
I don't mean negotiating with her; I mean standing up for my right to spend time with our son.
And his right to spend time with me.
 
Do you mind if I ask about who has custody and that sort of thing?
If you don't wish to elaborate, then I understand completely.
 
7:25 AM
We have no formal agreement as yet. Our separation is very new. But I can see us getting the point of having to get lawyers involved. She basically doesn't trust me around him.
How many weeks do you get off school?
 
Two weeks, I think.
 
That doesn't seem like enough.
 
Hrm. Let me check then.
 
But I'm used to the Southern Hemisphere thing, where Christmas holidays and summer holidays are one and the same.
 
Ah, yes.
December 22-January 6.
 
7:29 AM
Err, I have to go and do something that will take me about 10-15 minutes. Maybe talk later?
 
Sure, though I should probably go to bed now, so if there's anything you'd like to add, then feel free to e-mail me. Good night!
 
I don't have your email address.
But, umm, good night anyway.
 
Oh, don't you?
 
You remember my email address, right? So you could send me one.
 
Yes, I do have yours. I will do that then, before I sleep.
 
7:31 AM
OK, see you later. I really have to go now. Bye.
 
Bye!
 
 
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10:17 AM
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Haven't had that kind of answer in a while.
 
 
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11:21 AM
@Noah Of course. Just not in nonsense.
 
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1:04 PM
@RegDwighт Oh thank god. I'd lost their number.
 
@KitFox I had it, but I forgot it halfway through the post. Thankfully there was a reminder at the end.
 
I always want to read that as Hyperabad or Hydraebad. I don’t know why.
 
You mean it's not read as Hyperabad?
I don't know how they flip that p to begin with, or why.
 
And my brain wants -bad to mean bath.
So it is like a bath up north.
Or on the sun, or something.
Hyperion’s Bath and Kitchen Outlet.
Hm. -bad means "abode" there.
 
haha! new floating away animations in chat. nice :D
 
1:18 PM
Where?
 
watch me go...
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH
 
That is not new.
Maybe I have to reload?
 
That must be the Xmas thingy. Where's my hats?
 
Ok, reloaded. Now must wait for fodder.
 
1:19 PM
Hahaha. Sled!
 
Yippieee!
 
Troika!
 
Das war Fun!
So. Back to pressing matters. Where's my hat? What I have do to get?
 
Oh right. Hat season.
It's sleeting here.
 
Wah. I see nothing special.
Whoops.
I see now.
 
1:20 PM
There she goes.
 
Hee hee hee. Yay! Again!
 
hehehe it's adorable!
 
Now all at once!
Hooray!
 
Uh. Where's me?
 
Looks like Kit got stuck in snow.
 
1:21 PM
Eep!
 
Jez
I missed the floating away
ahh, a sleigh
 
claps hands
 
Jez
:-)
 
Artist's impression of Kit's whereabouts.
 
Um. What?
 
1:23 PM
You was stuck in snow.
 
I thought those records were sealed.
 
Signed and delivered. Then unsealed.
 
Jez
hey, you guys were disproving god without me?
 
Don't look at me.
 
They needed your help? Looks like they did fine.
 
1:24 PM
I was making latkes. Delicious, delicious latkes.
 
In snow!
 
Well, sleet.
And they still didn't cancel school, the bastards.
 
Ye—yes? Yeah.
 
That's Latke running away from school.
 
1:25 PM
OK, I don't get it.
Oh!
laughs
 
Jez
@KitFox why would they, for sleet?
 
Fifth Google Image result for "latke"
 
@Jez Because it's slippery and annoying to clean off my car.
 
Jez
that's what he said
 
Cancelling school for anything shy of a foot of snow is stupid.
 
Jez
1:31 PM
unless you're in the UK and the cars aren't designed for any snow
 
I wonder if I can attach some sort of saline solution spray to the front of my bicycle...
 
My school got cancelled exactly once. −17°F.
 
Or you live in the South where they don't have any plows.
Besides, it's not the snow that's the problem. It's the ice.
And since sleet turns into instaice, it makes more sense to cancel when it's sleeting than when it's snowing.
 
Jez
no, i'd say it's the snow
enough snow in front of the wheels just stops the car moving
ive had some embarrassing incidents where i got stuck for a few minutes
 
Yeah, but then you can just take your snowsled in.
 
1:35 PM
wahey!
 
@Jez Good thing we have ice to cancel out the snow.
 
Jez
cancel out?
 
You seen a car on ice?
 
Jez
i've driven one
 
So.
 
Jez
1:37 PM
lol @ that youtube video where people are just sliding down a hill and crashing into other cars
 
They trimmed them down to just one video? Impressive.
 
Jez
doesnt take ice to make you slide
 
just a low coefficient of friction
 
I had a friend who went off the interstate in Boston because of black ice. She was fine; she spun 180 degrees and landed gently in the breakdown lane facing the wrong way. She stood there for what she said felt like hours, watching cars sail over the guardrail or flip upside down and crash into each other.
That was a few years ago. She takes the T to work now.
 
I don't drive in snow anymore. I just work from home. Less aggravation.
 
1:41 PM
T of course meaning Tank
 
@MattЭллен Subway. Sorry.
Well, Boston transit.
 
oh! :D I thought it was a different road!
well, the subway is, in a way. A railroad
 
She said the cop that finally came over to her was pissed and asked her why she was sitting there. She told him she couldn't get her car started but that she would very much like to go somewhere else.
 
Lori Petty would take a tank
 
@MattЭллен T is for Trustfall.
 
Jez
1:44 PM
@KitFox why dont you guys build guardrails that can actually handle car crashes?
 
Because we live in a big country.
 
@Jez Not my guardrails. Besides, those only work if they are on the same level as the car. They don't do anything if you are airborne.
 
I served on a jury in a vehicular homicide case in which the defendant's car went into the guardrail, and the shoulder (BrE: the verge) right in front of the guardrail was sloped up, so her car vaulted over the rail and flipped over onto a car in one of the oncoming lanes.
 
Nov 20 at 21:26, by Robusto
Yeah, we asked for flying cars and jet packs and they gave us Facebook and Twitter.
 
Genau.
 
Jez
@RegDwighт not gonna happen. space exploration cutbacks are unavoidable
 
It will pay for itself.
 
@RegDwighт We'll leave that for the Germans, when they get around to giving in to their natural proclivities again.
 
Jez
@Robusto i'd get suspended for saying that
 
1:48 PM
@Robusto the Germans already are building a Death Star. Out of the moon. Haven't you seen the documentary?
 
Quick! Suspend Jez for what Robusto said!
 
Besides, who needs Death Stars when you have Predator drones?
 
It’s the Alien drones I worry about.
 
1:49 PM
@Robusto You. To better protect yourself against Google drones.
 
@RegDwighт Forget it. There is no protection against Google.
 
First they went after rhino poachers, and I said nothing because I was no rhino poacher.
 
Then they went after the wino poachers ...
 
In whino veritas.
 
Poached rhino, preferably in its own shell, is said to be exquisite.
 
1:50 PM
To say nothing of the peaches.
 
Now they go after vinyl brooches
 
I pity the rhino that had to die to maintain your erection.
 
@Robusto on the plus side, his sorry life is over. While those guys have to endure another 50+ years of no erections, and soon no rhinos either.
 
Those don't live in the wild.
 
How did you get an elephant with two trunks?
 
1:53 PM
I taked a regular elephant and entered it into the box on flipmytext.com.
 
@tchrist He has four trunks. He just had to check the other two because they wouldn't fit in the overhead compartment.
 
@RegDwighт What is that, an automated gas pump?
 
Jez
i just fucked up my database. FUCK.
 
@Robusto what in the world made you think it was automated?
You have to mate it by hand.
 
1:57 PM
Pro Tip: Don't fuck up your database.
@RegDwighт It has legs. See? Legs.
Of course, a table has legs, too, and I don't expect it to be automated. So ... OK, you win.
 
Buddha has legs, too. So obviously that's a buddha.
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A: Is there a word for people who love everything?

Stephane RollandBuddhas are people who love everything. And I don't think of other definitions.

 
Where are your elephant ears?
 
Whachamean? They have been painstakingly shopped into the picture. And by painstakingly I mean willy-nilly.
 
Oh. Nevermind.
 
@KitFox on my elephant, where else?
 
2:05 PM
@MattЭллен In the kinky box under the bed.
 
oh! Those elephant ears!
 
If you have a better part in mind, I welcome your suggestions. Here's the complete catalog of the 28,994 parts in existence.
 
Is pantheism for atheists who don't believe in pants (AmE underpants)?
 
No, in pancakes.
 
oh. I'll have to find a new group :(
I did wonder what all the batter was about
 
2:08 PM
@RegDwighт I've got that already. Thanks.
@MattЭллен Pants as God. Can't you read your own Latin?
 
@MattЭллен easy. Look out for Atheists Who Do Believe in Pancakes. But No Pants. Anonymous.
 
I can read Latin as well as the next person (who can't read Latin)
 
So you've reached the average level already. I'm not even beginner yet.
 
I am currently apancake.
giggles
 
2:12 PM
Bake, apancake, bake.
 
You funneh!
 
2:26 PM
 
Groos, gross, gross.
 
Q: Is there a word for people who loves everything? A: Slut.
 
3:12 PM
@tchrist You misspelled everyone.
 
What’s the ELU bat-signal threshold set to?
 
pro tip: don't tip your cup before it reaches your mouth.
 
@tchrist Joker.
 
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Oh nos! I used five tags. It can never get . :(
This is kind of amusing, eh?
They all have bronze badges for status-declined on MSO. :)
And only JA alone has a silver in it.
 
3:37 PM
Yeah. Mods never get what they want.
 
If users behaved themselves, you'd have nothing to do!
 
Neither do Employees. Neither do Founders.
 
♪ You can always not get what you want
 
@RegDwighт "Immediate disqualification for its association with The Big Chill."
 
Im- and dis-? Nice litotes!
And who is the big Chill anyway?
 
3:47 PM
Barry: Okay, whatever. Tell Laura I Love Her. That would bring the house down - Laura's Mom could sing it. You know what I'd want? One Step Beyond by Madness. And, uh, You Can't Always Get What You Want.
Dick: No. Immediate disqualification because of its involvement with The Big Chill.
Barry: Oh God. You're right!

Who can guess the film?
 
Hm.
Do I have to guess correctly?
 
That is unfortunately the way these things work.
 
That one with that guy in it
 
The only movie with discussions like that was High Fidelity.
Jack Black vs that other guy, from 2012.
Cusack.
 
That's a bingo!
 
3:48 PM
that's what I was trying to think of
 
I only really remember Tim Robbins getting phone treatment.
 
> What came first, the music or the misery? People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss. Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?
Also, great scene:
Dick: I guess it looks as if you're reorganizing your records. What is this though? Chronological?
Rob: No...
Dick: Not alphabetical...
Rob: Nope...
Dick: What?
Rob: Autobiographical.
Dick: No fucking way.
 
I still haven't read the book.
 
I still haven't bought the tshirt
 
My tshirt is with the other stupid.
There really is nothing that someone hasn't thought of before.
 
3:55 PM
There are so many other stupids, you could just have arrows pointing all over the place.
 
"All proceeds from the 4th Big Chili Cook-off support Waterworks' education and outreach programs."
I do hope they reach out and educate people that water helps jack shit against chilis. It really should be sponsored by Cocoaworks.
Or at least a bakery.
 
is that for the damage caused after people who watched the Kevin Cosner film?
 
Aug 31 at 13:31, by ЯegDwight
No Kevin Costner in this chat.
 
It's lucky I can't spell then!
 
Feb 10 '11 at 12:50, by RegDwight
I still remember that scene from the Simpsons, where Lisa's watching a DVD commentary for the Postman and it just goes like "I'm... I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. I really am."
 

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