The Nineteenth Byte

12:25 AM

cop-rob idea: fill in the spaces
cops: give a program and desired output with characters being empty out(could be all character or only single one character, like `pr _ _ t(1)` )
rob: fill in the characters so that desire output is obtained ( `print(1)` )

what prevents cops from doing _____________________________

@Niko Pretty sure this has been done

@cairdcoinheringaahing :(

Radvylf Programs

@Seggan Since you could just do print(1)#aaaaaaaaaaa

Usually CnRs don't require that you find the intended solution, just a solution

@Seggan multiple possible answer and the scoring mechanism (could be based on space filled and cops/robs answer different)

12:28 AM

maybe cops it would be least amount of blanks

IIRC, there's multiple CnR challenges based on the idea of cops revealing/hiding certain letters, with scoring typically tied into the amount revealed

i am thinking about desire output can also be blanked too

might not be a good idea tho

also if anyone active can host the challenge i would be happy, since i know i am not very active, and are not very suitable for hosting a contest. but i hope that i can see people’s creativity(if this cop/rob is a good idea)

tl;dr : Anyone can host this cop/rob if they want

OldSandboxPosts

1:00 AM

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Two-leg train journey

1:16 AM

ready to post and require for feedback (will post later)

Bubbler

Didn't get it the day I thought I've got 200 open Q's, but finally there it is :D

Adám

Wow.

@Niko I think it conflates two unconnected problems: 1. checking which characters are non-spaces. (boring) 2. the recognition of reshaped digits. (interesting) I suggest forgoing 1 and only making the challenge 2 only, and allowing input to be any "Boolean" matrix.

1:40 AM

@Bubbler Congrats!

2:12 AM

@Adám nice suggestion, fixing the challenge accordingly

changed challenge along with some other fixes, more suggestion welcomed

2:49 AM

@Bubbler Nice!

3:16 AM

@mousetail Some bug reports for your ><> interpreter, the end empty characters show undefined when interpreted, and the "No stack to pop" error is against specifications

3:31 AM

wat

@Niko where is it

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

3:48 AM

still in sandbox currently

Sandbox Posts

4:55 AM

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Normal Subgroups of \$S_4\$ Objective Given a permutation of 4 distinct items, classify the permutation by the normal subgroups it belongs. Input/Output Format You gotta choose the followings as the hyperparameters for your submission: The 4 distinct items. The permutation serving as the identi...

5:24 AM

should
   ##
    #
  ###
  #
  ###
be valid? ( related to my sandbox post)

Catija

5:41 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, haha. I was confused because you said that but I also just got the 11 will save the day hat on CG right before then so I thought you were talking about that :P

6:06 AM

@JoKing I'm in the middle of trying to make the p and g commands more standards compliant, that's why out of bounds things are a bit broken right now. I hope to have it fixed today

Also thanks for reporting the ] bug I wasn't aware

yeah, it was breaking my recent answer when i was trying to develop it

] is pretty non-intuitive

6:21 AM

hello

@mousetail how do you even open it? when I search they're references to J.H. Conway's game of life

they're referring to code.golf/game-of-life

Oh

I'm not sure how exactly input is taken

through argv. there's example code that shows you by default

@JoKing I mean, how do I read a newline?

oh wait it's split

never mind

made up

6:37 AM

it's the same thing though? unless you're referring to the game LIFE

@JoKing totally different, so like some cellular automata in the Life family

counts?

anyways, that's a terrible meme

@UndoneStudios Can you beat my score in rust?

@mousetail In the first place, I don't even program in rust

how am I supposed to beat you?

Well that makes it easy for me

7:04 AM

I solved three different ones

using really dumb methods

just now

I fixed the bug with undefined characters

I'm not sure what the behavior of ] is on a empty stack though

clear it and the register

> If the current stack is the last stack, ] simply empties the stack and registry.

7:23 AM

Ok ] should be fixed too

Adám

7:54 AM

@Niko The section "shape" is now confusing and misleading.

changed a bit

Adám

I don't see how that helps.

> A shape is define as a multiline text consists of UTF-8 char:

No it isn't.

Should be something like "A shape is a Boolean matrix, here represented using spaces and #s:"

(and then update the example accordingly)

Also, for some reason, all your examples have leading spaces. Unless that's intentional, you shouldn't do that.

ok, i will change it later (i have class very soon so it may delay for hours)

8:53 AM

codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25406 Any good file as data? I currently use a compressed midi

9:25 AM

Looks like I'ven't move a question in sandbox with positive feedback to main :(

9:37 AM

@l4m2 yeah

10:35 AM

Does anyone know a way to access the old original ><> interpreter? Apparently it had threading instructions (?)

fish.py?

Yea

It seems to be deleted from gist

lyxal

Wayback machine?

gist.github.com/anonymous/6392418

?

Still exists?

That's the new one

This was a link to the old one: gist.github.com/827726 but it's been deleted. This question mentioned it: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/1595/interpret-fish but then later it was edited to be a newer version except the newer version has a significantly different instruction set so that edit effectively invalidated answers.

11:12 AM

Any practical instruction set that store the result of last instruction and therefore ALU instructions have no destination?
I mean something like

P: ADD R0, R1
Q: ADD @P, R2
R: MOV R3, @Q

because I see most of results are temporary

11:31 AM

@mousetail github.com/harpyon/fish.py/archives/master also doesn't exist anymore

12:29 PM

esolangs.org/wiki/English

12:40 PM

Looks like ~English is closer to what I demonstrated as Literal English

1:04 PM

@mousetail aww, i forgot about my "a more detailed explanation is coming", I had it 75% done and then my computer died and I lost all my work

Ouch

Q: Flip the order of operations

now of course, i don't remember how it works, besides the general gist

New Posts

1:46 PM

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Scientists have made contact with a parallel universe. Just one problem: They write math differently. Help the scientists make a program that can convert normal math expressions to their equivalent in alternate universe math. The connection through the portal is bad so your code needs to be as sh...

code-golf string balanced-string expression-building

3:56 PM

I added a "Copy as GGSE post" button to my ><> interpreter

4:14 PM

Search question: size of largest island, f(your code) smaller better

4:43 PM

Found

user

@l4m2 When would that be advantageous?

Perhaps defaulting to some temporary register when no result register is given would be nice but having to move every single time would be annoying

@user You mean MCU with only one accumulator?

user

Yeah

6:11 PM

Nice, I did the review task with my user id :D

The Thonnu

6:27 PM

Since when has the Community user started making edits?

codegolf.stackexchange.com/posts/255510/revisions

When an anonymous user gets a suggested edit approved, it's attributed to Community

The Thonnu

But it was by this user: codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/76323/l4m2

And they're way past 2k

So they shouldn't need approval...

DLosc

Any final feedback before I post this?

@TheThonnu No, it wasn't. The edit was submitted by an anonymous user

Whether they're claiming to be l4m2 is irrelevant, it's the account that submitted the edit that matters

The Thonnu

@cairdcoinheringaahing ah, got you

Thanks

6:47 PM

got heads up hat

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Because I only make suggestion and would like a feedback

Someone here told me use anonymous to do this

Sandbox Posts

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// if this comment is removed, the program blows up Write a program with a comment saying: if this comment is removed, the program blows up The program can do anything, as long as it successfully terminates at some point. If the comment is removed but the source code stays the same otherwise, the...

Radvylf Programs

8:49 PM

Dec 7 at 16:19, by Catija

Have y'all considered like... starting with a clean sandbox every year or something?

Any opinions on this? I honestly think it might be a good idea

It'd have disadvantages, but being able to set a goal like "let's handle every post currently in the sandbox" would be nice

Although idk, maybe we shoud hit a 5 digit answer count first :p

Dec 7 at 17:10, by caird coinheringaahing

@Catija We actually used to, but slightly more regularly, but eventually decided on sticking with 1