The Nineteenth Byte

DLosc

18:01

@l4m2 I think the current list of half-byte languages is Risky, HBL, and Nibbles.

Risky is ~~n't exactly~~ designed for golf, and it can be golfy sometimes, but also very ungolfy sometimes (thus the name). HBL is somewhat designed for golf, but uses a suboptimal paradigm and needs a lot more development. Nibbles is designed for golf and seems pretty good from what I've seen, but I haven't tried it yet.

Radvylf Programs

Risky was designed specifically for code golf

But it's not that good at it

Ginger Industries

like APOL

l4m2

Any language use order of input for symmetry operation to have extra meaning? e.g. a$b is a+b, but b$a is b*a

pxeger

but if I write 2$3, how does the language know if I meant 2+3 or 3*2?

l4m2

"2"<"3" so it's a$b

pxeger

18:09

oh

l4m2

a$a is a*a, use a*2 to mean a+a

How do, e.g. opcode, rule on "same calling method" for source-layout where op(f) do another task? Same distance between head?

emanresu A

18:44

@DLosc I've got a half-byte Vyxal in the making - it's called Halfwit and will hopefully be golfy.

Ginger Industries

18:59

i need some operator ideas for Dynalist

emanresu A

Your list golflang?

Ginger Industries

yup

imagine Jelly but with more list stuff

Radvylf Programs

How's that going to work?

Ginger Industries

that's what I'm working on right now

Radvylf Programs

And please tell me it's not gonna be tacit

emanresu A

19:01

(spoiler: Jelly is an array language)

Ginger Industries

but I'm making it more array'y

with my current design, I was able to make a 6-byter for this challenge

emanresu A

Good luck

Ginger Industries

i think it'll turn out good

The 6-byter: Bw↔‽↩;

Radvylf Programs

Yuck, is that an emoji?

Ginger Industries

wat

Radvylf Programs

19:04

↩ is an emoji on my computer

Ginger Industries

there are no emojis in there

that's an arrow

emanresu A

o/

Ginger Industries

\o

Radvylf Programs

On my machine that's an emoji

Ginger Industries

idk man

that's the "reverse direction" operator

Radvylf Programs

19:07

Why not stick with Jelly's code page?

Ginger Industries

because then it'd be indistinguishable from Jelly

this is a Jelly-like lang, not a Jelly clone

Radvylf Programs

Jelly's code page is easy to type though

Ispshor is using basically the same code page

Ginger Industries

i'll consider it

Radvylf Programs

at least try not to include things that are emoji on some computers lol

No idea what the chrome os font designer people were thinking

Ginger Industries

righty

any other symbols for "reverse direction"?

@RadvylfPrograms like, that's not even a good looking arrow

it looks like it came from Windows 95

Ginger Industries

19:30

CMQ: What would be the term for an expression that takes a non-zero, non-variable number of parameters?

like a blanket term for monad, dyad, triad, etc. (but not nilad or manyad)

Adám

@GingerIndustries fixed arity/valence function?

Ginger Industries

@Adám i'm going to go with "somead"

Adám

ad

Ginger Industries

@Adám ah yes, the \+ad\

Fmbalbuena

Why this was downvoted

ophact

19:41

One of the most interesting things about code-golf is that after some time golfing, the task becomes more like a task of ensuring the outputs are correct rather than actually solving the challenge

Ginger Industries

huh

ophact

@Fmbalbuena I don't know frankly. I'm rather curious why a lot of your other sandbox posts are downvoted. I don't find them that bad or unclear to the point that they deserve a downvote...

speaking of which, why aren't downvotes used much in the sandbox?

Fmbalbuena

@ophact Ok, I think can you upvote?

ophact

I only upvote posts that I find particularly interesting. While you do make some particularly interesting challenges, the particular linked one is not, so I'm rather indifferent to that one. No offense intended of course, because I am indifferent to the vast majority of proposals

Fmbalbuena

Why everyone only upvote interesting sandbox posts?

ophact

19:45

that's what upvotes are for...

at least in the sandbox

Fmbalbuena

> It is recommended to leave your posts in the sandbox for at least several days, and until it receives upvotes and any feedback has been addressed.

caird coinheringaahing

@Fmbalbuena While I don't think it merits a downvote: it's not especially clear what the two programs are supposed to be (first one can do anything, second one takes a program as input and outputs a score?), and you don't say how a cops' answer is cracked

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh i will clarify later

pxeger

It amuses me when I get +10 and then about 10 minutes later a new answer

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger I always do them the other way around: you get a new answer and then an immediate +10 :P

pxeger

19:58

most often for me (when I'm answering) it's upvote -> write an answer -> either post answer or retract upvote

ophact

why do you retract the upvote?

caird coinheringaahing

yesterday, by caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries Yes please, I've been searching for a new sleep ASMR

pxeger

@ophact if I decide the solution has turned out boring, which means the challenge is not as interesting as I first thought

ophact

ah

that's never happened to me

pxeger

TIL there's actually a bitcoin unicode character

Ginger Industries

20:06

@pxeger ಠ_ಠ

pxeger

@GingerIndustries that's 3 characters!

mathcat

ඞ

Ginger Industries

         ඞඞඞඞ
     ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
     ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
 ඞඞඞඞඞඞ      ඞ
 ඞඞඞඞඞඞ      ඞ
 ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
      ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
      ඞඞ      ඞඞ
      ඞඞ      ඞඞ

mathcat

wow

10+

Ginger Industries

amoongus

pxeger

20:13

let's not get too carried away here

Ginger Industries

>:(

mathcat

 ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
ඞ   ඞ     ඞ   ඞ
ඞඞඞඞඞඞ    ඞ
 ඞ                ඞ
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 ඞ    ඞඞ       ඞ
 ඞඞඞ  ඞඞඞඞ

lol no

Ginger Industries

what is that

._.

mathcat

Ginger Industries

Radvylf Programs

20:44

Remember that game we used to play where we'd list the number of search results for a term on a bunch of SE sites and try to guess what the word was?

Unrelated String

yeah

Radvylf Programs

Well I've got a hard one:

Stack Overflow  139
Latin           42
Code Golf       22
Worldbuilding   21
Gardening       17
Biology         9
DIY             5
Photography     3
Literature      2
Skeptics        2
Tor             1

Unrelated String

wow

also we could have the room unfrozen if we want to do more

DLosc

^

@GingerIndustries Joke's on you--the table in my database is called PERSON, not PEOPLE ;p

Ginger Industries

21:12

@RadvylfPrograms "dphys-swapfile"

Radvylf Programs

No lol

No results on CGCC :p

I will say that the meaning used in DIY is different from the one on SO is different from the one on Latin

Ginger Industries

"optimization"

Radvylf Programs

128 on CGCC

Ginger Industries

"compilation"

Radvylf Programs

...

There's no way that has 139 results on SO lol

Nope, 226 thousand

Ginger Industries

21:15

"minify"?

nope

Radvylf Programs

Are you even checking these lol

Ginger Industries

i am now

fun fact: "bevel" has exactly 1000 results on SO

Radvylf Programs

Nice lol

Ginger Industries

hmm

@RadvylfPrograms hint?

Radvylf Programs

One of its meanings is an organism of some sort

Ginger Industries

21:20

hm

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Golf the prime numbers in replacement calculus I'd like to introduce a new? programming language I call replacement calculus. It has very simple syntax. Here is a program that checks if an input is divisible by three: yes no 3=0 4=1 5=2 6=0 7=1 8=2 9=0 00=0 01=1 02=2 10=1 11=2 12=0 20=2 21=0 22=1...

Radvylf Programs

This one's probably gonna be really hard:

Stack Overflow          26,612
Photography             15.750
Game Development        2,447
Electrical Engineering  1,158
Gardening               932
History                 512
Law                     485
Meta                    326
Code Golf               204
Cooking                 185
Biology                 172
Mi Yodeya               120
Chemistry               75
Web Applications        36
Cryptography            32
Freelancing             30
Linguistics             27
Genealogy               12

Ginger Industries

italian?!

Radvylf Programs

Just threw in some random ones at the end

This is a word that's used a lot in everyday speech, so there's a bit of noise

Ginger Industries

hmm

alright

processing...

@RadvylfPrograms this is hard

Radvylf Programs

21:32

Hint: The gardening meaning is different from the photography one

The first is a noun, the second is a verb

And there's other meanings used on some of the other sites

Ginger Industries

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sandbox Posts

21:45

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Grid Aligned (Quad?) Linked List Fluff I was recently thinking about 2-dimensional linked lists, and realized that they could potentially become unaligned to a grid, unlike a singly linked list. To combat that, I need a program that checks if a quad-list is grid aligned or not, and it needs to be...

Underslash

Its been a while since I posted, thoughts on the new challenge?

Ginger Industries

e

New Posts

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Q: Capture the longest leading whitespace substring from lines

The Challenge Given a multiline string, return the longest substring of leading whitespace in present every line, ignoring empty lines or lines composed only of whitespace. I wrote a quick script on for my iPhone that comments or uncomments JavaScript code (since I can't use ctrl+/). I want the ...

text-processing

lyxal

@GingerIndustries what does it do? How does it work?

Ginger Industries

22:02

Bw     Walk over input as a boolean list
  ↔    Invert the current item
  ‽↩  If the current item is True, reverse walk direction
;      End walk block

@lyxal ^

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