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6:00 PM
22 hours ago, by Basil
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@MDMarra different setup. That's my Macintosh Time Machine problem.
 
Copied and pasted the wrong thing at first. Didn't want to steal the glory of that from @Basil
@ewwhite I know. I just find that image way funnier than it actually is
 
:(
 
@MDMarra Held together by twine and candle wax.
 
does it run on 9v batteries also?
 
6:04 PM
@lsiunsuex probably on @TomTom's phone
 
@BartDeVos Actually, MacGuyver is describing what the database back-end to his mobile phone web server runs on.
 
this douche bag is / pretends to be in IT / pretends to be a programmer, has access to my intranet's code. Claims he can't close a support ticket (i single handedly wrote the ENTIRE support ticket system). Send me an email saying he can, CC'ing my 2 bosses in on it (they love to do that to try to get me in trouble) so i create a support request, assign it to him, reset his password, login as him, mark it completed (works fine, obviously) - i tell him it works fine and make sure hes using IE
(it has problems in firefox) - replies back to me - not on my pc. a: its a fucking website - its pc agnostic. b: your a programmer, go look in the code. c: your also a sys admin - and you give me no error message? no description of wtf is going on? and your in IT ?
 
Lovely :D
 
13 mins ago, by MDMarra
22 hours ago, by Basil
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M a c C E P T I O N
 
6:14 PM
ok
51 secs ago, by WesleyDavid
13 mins ago, by MDMarra
22 hours ago, by Basil
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@Basil I have no clue how to quote :(
 
@BartDeVos paste the link :D
 
@Basil STOPPIT! You're gonna break the CSS again!
 
@voretaq7 I didn't start anything
 
Someone ask a softball windows question on main. I've been at +140 for the last 9 hours and I want to repcap
 
6:17 PM
Won't someone PLEASE think if the RENDERING?!?
 
2 mins ago, by Basil
51 secs ago, by WesleyDavid
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22 hours ago, by Basil
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2 mins ago, by Basil
51 secs ago, by WesleyDavid
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22 hours ago, by Basil
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oh god
 
That's pretty easy indeed
 
what have I done
 
6:17 PM
@Basil Not the first time it's happened
 
Question subject: HALP!
Question body: HOW DO I OPEN THE START MENU?!?!?
 
you guys enjoy your rendering massacre, I'm going for coffee!
 
1 min ago, by Bart De Vos
2 mins ago, by Basil
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22 hours ago, by Basil
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35 secs ago, by MDMarra
1 min ago, by Bart De Vos
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51 secs ago, by WesleyDavid
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22 hours ago, by Basil
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How far does this go?
 
6:20 PM
@BartDeVos Until it breaks the sidebar
Then it keeps going
 
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22 hours ago, by Basil
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1 min ago, by Joel E Salas
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22 hours ago, by Basil
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fun
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/me is tempted to start flagging posts as spam....
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2 mins ago, by lsiunsuex
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@lsiunsuex What is the black 'X' in your Dock?
 
6:29 PM
appcelerator titanium (ios dev tool)
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(yes, I'm the creap that inspects your screenshots)
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What the heck?! I leave for 5 minutes and you guys go all chat-inception on me?
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i was gonna say, we should have a day where every chat message gets a star
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It's called starception, and it happens quite often :D
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6:46 PM
mmm I asked a guy to convert a binary number to decimal by hand, his answer was 240,15
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The fuck just happened in here.
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@WesleyDavid Hello, I'm Wilford Brimley's cat, and I'm gonna get DIABEETUS after eating this sugary desert.
 
Hello, I'm Sally Struthers. Do you want to make more money? Sure! We all do!
You can be a television repairman, dentist's assistant, clerical aid, drug mule swallowing condoms full of coke!
Call now for your free information packet.
 
@LucasKauffman did you start with 01000011 01110000 00100110 01100110 and tell him to use IEEE 754 encoding? If so he was right
 
And by "packet" I mean "use the septocain, it deadens your gag reflex"
 
7:01 PM
@WesleyDavid never again
 
@Chopper3 Had a little trouble with the... errr... "exit strategy"?
 
@WesleyDavid they kept getting caught
 
@Chopper3 terrible :(
 
@LucasKauffman What number did you give him??
 
seriously, there is a learning curve to metro
been playing with it all day and there is a lot of shit that isn't exactly evident how it works
 
7:16 PM
@lsiunsuex s/metro/windows 8 ui
It's not called metro any more
 
its metro! thei'll settle out of court
 
Haha, Microsoft is already changing the terminology internally!
 
@MDMarra That's just to confuse you - PUNY CUSTOMER!
 
D-:
 
@MDMarra sigh You've been hanging out with Rebecca?
 
7:20 PM
No dude
I never make standard smileys inverted like that
 
your smiley faces the wrong way! twitch
 
@lsiunsuex That's everyone #1 complaint after using it for 5 minutes, they cant find sh*t.
 
twitchtwitch
 
BUT the captial D as a gaping mouth is too good not to use sometimes and there's no left-hand-eyed equivilent
 
ASSPLODE
:-<
 
7:21 PM
Not the same
I think of < as a sad mustache
the D gives you the real gaping mouth look
 
o:-< ?
 
=S
 
(:
screw you all
 
@Basil HEATHEN!
 
Oh shit
I didn't mean to actually flag that
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sorry dude
 
7:22 PM
Repent or.... or.... I'll steal your SSDs
 
@MDMarra Say What Again!
 
hahahaha
 
@MDMarra D:
 
@MDMarra heh I wasn't sure if I should dismiss it or validate it :P
 
@Basil perhaps I should flag that in return.
 
7:22 PM
@MDMarra It's OK, I forgive you (:
 
I clicked on it to get a screenshot and it actually flagged it right away
I thought there was a confirmation box
 
@RegDwightАΑA This is fun.
 
the backwards smileys hurt my heart :'(
 
oooooooooooooooops
 
@MDMarra ConfirWhatnow? ::clicks "Feed account to Grues"::
 
7:23 PM
@Basil I'm reading your question now
 
@MDMarra I wanted to reply to your message but all it said was "destroy user" and "destroy user violently".
 
@RegDwightАΑA Don't hurt me :(
I'm just a lowly black-name
 
You blue-names are glorious gods that we must make sacrifices to.
 
@RegDwightАΑA Wait... other sites have a NONVIOLENT option?
 
7:24 PM
@vCole Oh excellent!
 
@MDMarra Oh yes. Please. I only had seven sacrifices today. Tasty sacrifices.
 
@MDMarra No burnt offerings, just throw money
 
@Basil I've had few margaritas though - so I may have to read it a few times
 
@voretaq7 You'll get the three virgins that I have in my basement and you'll like it.
 
@vCole I'm halfway convinced that my adapter is target-only, but I can't be sure how to check.
 
7:25 PM
@voretaq7 perhaps I misread and it said something about daffodils. We will never know!
 
@vCole heh, awesome (:
 
Ugh... virgins? That's like a puppy that's not housebroken!
Can't I have one that's already trained?
 
I have a confession to make...I don't have a basement.
 
@MDMarra Hey, that's my arena team!
 
I live in a 5th fl apartment
 
7:28 PM
@MDMarra Re: virgins & Sacrifices: killfrog.com/animations-of/34-animations/…
NSFW: Violence, Piggies, Dismembered little girl (animated)
 
Well, then I shall wait
 
Asking one of the 7mode guys here
Basil - do you have the card #?
Does the card show on a sysconfig -a?
 
@vCole It does
2 sec
@vCole That sysconfig is set to expire in an hour, btw
 
ordered firewood for the pizza oven last night - we'll drop it off tonight / tomorrow morning (today is tomorrow) - wife home early - did the wood come ? no - call the dude - did you drop it at the right house? yeah - call the wife - did you actually look in the back yard or just the driveway ? just the driveway - can you look in the backyard? yeah, its here. wtf. call up firewood dude - sorry man, my wife didnt see it
 
@ChrisS 1111 1100
 
7:39 PM
192, I think... That's off the top of my head
 
@lsiunsuex Must resist... temptation... to... aww screw it. Every time I drop wood off for your wife, she notices it.
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it's officially friday.
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haha
 
@ChrisS 252
255 - 3
 
Yeah, just looked it up. I should have known. =]
@Basil Heck, I've been officially Friday for almost 2 hours. =]
@LucasKauffman Meh, I was thinking 1100 0000 for some reason. I'll chalk that one up to Friday.
 
@ChrisS I've been officially friday since 2003.
 
7:44 PM
@MDMarra slacker
 
Aw, thanks man!
 
OK, I'm ooota here. Good weekend everyone!
 
 
1 hour later…
9:07 PM
@ewwhite have you seen the track cycling ?
 
9:32 PM
@Iain We don't get the track cycling until 11:35pm.
 
that aught to hold me for a bit
 
@lsiunsuex jeez, did you deforest a small country?
 
@ewwhite :( Team GB have done quite well :)
I really can't get enthused by watching road cycling but the track is fab
 
haha - 1 cord delivered. $75 - not bad
 
9:54 PM
@voretaq7 The answer is apparently hdb (hierarchical layout variant of bdb) for OpenLDAP backends.
 
@84104 mrrr?
 
@voretaq7 You were saying how BDB was evil the other day, but we don't have better options.
Something about the stability of a one legged chair, I believe.
 
HDB is betters?
 
NAME
slapd-bdb, slapd-hdb - Berkeley DB backends to slapd

SYNOPSIS
/etc/openldap/slapd.conf

DESCRIPTION
The bdb backend to slapd(8) uses the Oracle Berkeley DB (BDB) package
to store data. It makes extensive use of indexing and caching to speed
data access.

hdb is the recommended primary database backend. It is a variant of
the bdb backend that uses a hierarchical database layout which supports
subtree renames. It is both more space-efficient and more execution-
efficient than the bdb backend. It is otherwise identical to the bdb
It's what the man page says.
I have no clue how to benchmark these things!
Maybe dba.se knows stuff about this.
If it does, it's not tagged well. There are not [bdb], [hdb] or [ldap] tags and the only 2 [openldap] questions are on ACLs.
 
@voretaq7 Are you an OSX man
 
10:07 PM
@JoelESalas for workstations yea
 
@voretaq7 Do you have any performance tunables? Risky stuff, etc?
 
@JoelESalas nah - the performance sucks and I live with it :P
 
@voretaq7 Graaah. I have to go from an irresponsibly-fast Fedora install to this dog-shit slow OS
ONLY OSX tunable: noatime
 
@JoelESalas best tunable in general
 
fixed
 
10:13 PM
you can shut odd Spotlight indexing
 
@voretaq7 Already did. Still slow.
 
@JoelESalas it's not supposed to be fast. It's supposed to be PURTY
 
@voretaq7 I hate purdy and purdy hates me
 
You're making me wonder if serverfault.com/questions/33932/… is worth trying.
 
Why are your Macs slow?
Mine isn't.
 
10:15 PM
Lack of SSD?
 
@ewwhite SSD? How much RAM
 
8 or more... and an SSD
 
Because I hit the disk, and the OS X I/O scheduler algorithm is very simple:


"OMG DISK ACCESS! OK Everybody fucking STOP! just STOP!. NO EXECUTING! This process wants the disk, so HEY! NO! NOBODY CAN HAVE THE CPU UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THE DISK!"
 
what are you people doing to your macs?
 
@ewwhite I'm stuck with a Mac Mini, 8GB RAM, 5400RPM disk. There's no word for my condition
 
10:18 PM
@joel these people are local to me...
 
@ewwhite I tend to eat mine, but that's because they are of the Big variety.
 
@ewwhite dude I'm serious - any disk I/O and the system shits itself
like a condom in a cow's ass -- UNUSABLE!
 
But Macs are single-user systems... I don't think there's much available in the optimization realm.
But, I guess we can xlr8 our Macs!
 
@ewwhite I tuned the shit out of my Fedora install. Mini from 2009, 4GB RAM, shitty old disk. It runs like liquefied FAST because I can sacrifice safety for speed
 
but it's a desktop... what needs speed?
Excel?
 
10:23 PM
@ewwhite VMs, data manipulation, dozens of browser tabs, I'm generally impatient, etc
 
@ewwhite I like to be able to browse the web AND use a terminal interactively
 
I only use the laptops...
 
@voretaq7 In OSX, I swear I have to queue up my terminal commands in a text editor and make sure they're right before I paste them into Terminal
 
I mean I know that's a herculean task for a system with FOUR FUCKING PROCESSORS running at 200 TIMES THE SPEED OF MY FIRST COMPUTER with MORE RAM THAN WE EVER DREAMED ABOUT HAVING AS DISK back in the day...
Also X11 on OS X blows
 
I use Eterm for my terminal emulator...
under X11... much faster.
And there's a small Gnome Panel in the lower right that's part of something I compiled back in the Fink days.
but I have a full GNU application tree under /sw that comes with as I upgrade through the various Cat-themed Apple updates.
for general text, BBEdit.. And the rest is just standard OS apps... I do a lot of photo work, so I have Aperture around.
 
10:27 PM
@voretaq7 Don't get me wrong, I made every effort to ghetto-rig together a Linux install on this son-of-a-bitch mini. It just refuses to boot from Linux correctly
 
@JoelESalas you need a Linux that likes EFI
 
I'd settle for ANY linux, even ubuntu
@voretaq7 Fedora "works" in the same way that you can "compete" in the Le Mans with a Toyota Echo
By correctly I mean, with video acceleration
 
hmm. if nothing else, a website i'm doing looks perfect in IE10 (exactly as it does in firefox) (ie9 shits itself)
 
@joel @vore Are you guys on the newest OS?
GPU-accelerated Safari...
 
@ewwhite No, that costs money :(
 
10:31 PM
$20?
 
@ewwhite 10.7
 
laptop?
 
With Safari 6 which sucks RAM like a cheap hooker during fleet week
@ewwhite iMac right now
 
Hmm, get some solid-state love!
 
@ewwhite why should I have to do that to have a performant system?
 
10:37 PM
@ewwhite and good backups
 
Because, the price point for the SSD's is about right.
 
@ewwhite I've got one in my laptop running Fedora. I've never used a faster computer in my life. That includes freshly-installed servers
 
is the speed difference in a laptop between a regular hard drive and an ssd really that much?
 
I've had far more HD failures on Mac than SSD... I average a new Mac laptop every 12-18 months, going back to 1998. Each one has suffered an HD failure.
 
@lsiunsuex Easily 20-30x, depending on workload
 
10:39 PM
@lsiunsuex Yes, in boot times... application loading, etc.
 
This is the sort of thing I'm talking about. I'm deleting a VM snapshot, OSX tells me it'll be done in 41 minutes.
 
I've run SSDs in the last three Mac laptops.
 
30-40mb psd's, shit ton of php files open but all streamed from ssh - few vm's open
 
The entire time, my Mini is nigh unusable
 
@ewwhite I've had one ssd running windoes7 and it failed @13 months old
 
10:40 PM
OCZ?
 
wtf. i cannot type to save my life lately
 
@ewwhite yep a vertex 2 - replaced under warranty but still a pain
 
It's weird. I use the OWC drives; also Sandforce like OCZ, but they haven't failed... even in ZFS use.
Enough, that I've dumped old ones into storage servers for read cache.
 
it's not like this drive was used much either - I even put the pagefile on a different disk so It's just general bowsing really
 
11:01 PM
Man, CSS blows
 
css is definately a pain in my asshole
@voretaq7 show and tell time?
 
@lsiunsuex sure...
 
@voretaq7 is your problem really CSS, or the browsers that do a bad job displaying it?
 
@Zoredache I don't know... all I know is that overflow:scroll is not working
(though in Firefox I get the scroll bar... the whole fucking length of the image so it's USELESS, but I get it!)
 
set min-height with overflow - works better
or width if the problem is width, obviously
 
11:10 PM
why should I have to set a minimum width?
Or for that matter a maximum?
The rendering should not exceed the size of the container it's in (and the container's width is set to 99% of the page width)
therefore there should be an overflow.
And being that there's an overflow it should scroll.
 
if the height is a % the page will infinately grow with the size of the image, no ?
 
But CSS is a cock-biting donkey-raping markdown-loving whore :-)
@lsiunsuex so you're telling me the ONLY way to have overflow actually work is for me to force a specific pixel width?
because that's some kinda bullshit right there, but it's CSS so that could very well be the kind of bullshit I have to live with...
 
most of the sites i do are fixed width; if its variable width, it'll just grow forever - css dont give a fuck
 
so this is CSS sucking the big floppy one and we're doomed to shitty rendering... can I <iframe> the fucker maybe?
 
for sure you can iframe it
i'd fixed width the iframe but thats me
 
11:16 PM
If I set a fixed width I have to set it at 1024x768 (the screen resolution of our field units)
which means literally every customer will complain, because they use desktops to view the system, and they have like... actual pixel real estate
 
so try variable
css is not exactly an exact science - its a little red headed bitch with a chip on its shoulder from being abused for so many years by IE
 
@lsiunsuex Have I mentioned that web design sucks? It's literally WORSE than it was back in the days of <frame> and <table>
 
thats why i don't design :) i only program
when i have to design, i buy a template from themeforest.net
 
@lsiunsuex yeah, well I work for bikesheds-R-us. If I ask them to involve a designer the bossman will want to be involved in the site design so he gets his money's worth
to put that in perspective, 2 years ago we hired professional writers and a professional designer to redo our marketing website.
It still has not been approved for launch.
 
day job - i won't allow the owners to be involved in the websites design. the project will never get done. i've fought for creative freedom there.
 
11:20 PM
Unfortunately my scope of authority does not extend to telling the CEO "Look, just let the fucking professionals do what you're paying them for and rubber stamp what they hand you"
(otherwise shit might get done :-)
I'll be lucky if we can get that ugly version of the site launched by the end of the year (only a year behind schedule)
 
i'm just about fucked right now - i can't develop in titanium studio (ios app) on my macbook pro cause i'm on ios 6 beta and the macbook pro is on mountain lion. the imac is running windows 7 right now and i just put windows 8 on the alienware. my sister in law imac is here getting snow leopard right now, so when thats done, put SL on my imac, put titanium and x-code on it. then dev my iphone app. leave the macbook pro alone and load a few VM's to test in ie9 / 8 / 7
i'll waste the next 4 hours just installing os's so i can test shit :(
website looks awesome in ie10 but fuck-all is using it right now...
and with the learning curve of metro, fuck-all will be using it 1 year after its released
 
heh we look good in Safari and Firefox
which is enough for tonight - i'mma go find food
laterZ
 
was the app store introduced in snow leopard or lion? can't remember
 
11:36 PM
Snow Leopard.
 
@voretaq7 Oooh, Pop Burger!
 
11:55 PM
@ewwhite How do you feel about Five Guys
 

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