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12:04 AM
@Deusovi sounds fun /sarcasm
 
it's been a while since we had to do this. it's certainly interesting
but you're right that "fun" is not the first word that comes to mind
 
more like "dammit i wish i had a more accurate mod hammer"
(no offense, of course)
apparently user872797 has cloned themselves, there are two of them in the people list
 
try refreshing?
 
oh, yay, now they're gone
well, uh, that was weird
 
things like this happen occasionally
 
12:16 AM
do the people give up eventually?
 
either that or one of our automated systems kicks in
 
Automation FTW.
 
indeed
and then you can automate the automation
 
12:36 AM
I don't think so.
Automation usually involves writing code that does the job repetitively (if not, automating the automation will involve that, or at least some point in the tower will do), and I don't think writing code in general can be automated
 
12:50 AM
good point
 
hello!
it is my first time using this chat
what is happening here?
 
The latest thing was a deleted user trying to re-create their account
 
oh
exciting
 
One big thing is the CCCC (Cryptic Clue Chat Chains), which you can see on the starboard
 
do people chat about puzzles here?
 
12:53 AM
Basically if you solve the CCCC, then you get to post the next one
 
I see. Looks too complicated for me.
 
We chat about lots of stuff. C4 solving, PSE Boss Rush, puzzles on the main site, site policy, math and/or physics tutoring, college, money,...
 
I am currently solving this puzzle: oeis.org/A337663
I wrote some Monte Carlo code last night, but it couldnt find the best solutions. Going to rewrite it today.
 
Can't help you there, seeing as I don't understand the problem :(
 
@DmitryKamenetsky yep, a lot of the time!
 
12:57 AM
oh I can explain it. Put some 1s then start adding 2, 3, 4 and so on to places where the sum of neighbors equals the added number. Whats the largest number you can add?
 
also, that's interesting - looks like people on code golf are working on it?
 
Yep. But they are stuck at N=5. I am hoping to get some approximate answers for N>5.
 
<leaving for dinner>
 
BTW its cool to actually chat with you :)
 
yep, nice to have you here too!
 
12:58 AM
congrats on reaching 100K!
 
oh, thanks!
still can't believe it, honestly
 
I can - your answers are always fast and top notch
we are lucky to have you on the site
3
 
wow, thank you! that means a lot to me
 
1:35 AM
0
Q: Smallest four-digit palindromic numbers

Jingbo the dudeWhat is the smallest four-digit palindrome that is the sum of two different three-digit palindromic numbers? There are different answers.

 
Avi
1:47 AM
@Bubbler Tremble, minions!!!
jk
But the process of writing code can be (and is even frequently) automated, as long as there is a clear sense of what the output code should do, what it should look like, and how it might need to be modified to fit the special constraints of unique scenarios
We generally call that type of code "auto-generated"
 
But it solves only a very small set of problems that are clearly defined in terms of machine instructions (or higher-level language features).
 
Avi
2:03 AM
Yes, but sometimes that's all you (or anyone else) ever truly needs:
For example, you can automate generation of code that handles database interactivity in C#
Even if your database is complex, there are a finite number of ways in which it can be complex: Therefore, a prime candidate for automation, and it saves uncountable hours of peoples lives:
 
Sure, it's a good example of code generation, but in the process someone wrote the program that generates code that solves the task.
 
Avi
2:18 AM
Well, yes: You didn't expect the code generator to write itself? At that point it's probably a compiler compiler :O
 
2:34 AM
@Mithical That's a really cool article. But I don't fully agree. I understand that Rowling doesn't portray nearly as much diversity as Riordan does, but that doesn't mean in any way that there's anything wrong with what she wrote. Rowling's books have millions of readers all over the globe and attract people of all ages into the fantastical genre. While I see your point about Rowling's lack of diverse portrayal, I just don't think that detracts from the novels at all.
Instead, it augments Riordan's novels.
</rant>
 
2:58 AM
@Sciborg, are you making an Around the Bend?
@GarethMcCaughan, friendly nudge in case you haven't seen MRFalcon's response to your meta answer.
 
Avi
3:22 AM
For the record, I think the argument that conventional semantics should be ignored in the attempt to find more solutions to a puzzle is wrong unless the puzzle is tagged
 
Me too. And they're trying to argue that all the other answers are invalid (or at least that's what I got out of it) because of a perfectly reasonable assumption
 
 
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4:47 AM
I keep fiddling with my Statue Park - it has two solutions, then no solutions, then no solutions in a different way... aggh.
 
5:03 AM
time to go back to the one with 2 and post it like "Two for the price of one! Can you find TWO legal solutions?"
 
Now that's creative
 
CCCC hint: punctuation is important
an early hint is a surefire sign of a setter feeling guilty
3
 
Is it a movie title or something?
 
 
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8:32 AM
@bobble I've seen it. I'm just not sure it needs responding to...
@jafe I am like 99% sure I know what the intended answer is, but for neither of the two plausible parsings I see can I make either the definition or the wordplay satisfactory...
I think the answer is meant to be my name. The def might be "Regular" (meaning person regularly found in a particular place, such as here) in which case we have GMAN containing HEART* CAUGH(-t) which gives us GARETHMCAUGHAN; if either "put" or "jail" can indicate C then the last three words can make us insert that and be done but I don't see how they do.
(So, actually, for that parsing I think the definition is OK but I can't make the wordplay work.)
 
dangg
 
Alternatively, maybe it's some sort of &lit (complaining about my cryptic clues or something), taking G(-m)A(-n), adding HEART* to give GARETHA, putting in CAUGH(-t) to give GARETHCAUGHA, but then somehow "jail" needs to mean "add an MC and an N in two different places" so actually I'm not sure why I even mention this parsing which is clearly worse than the other one on all counts.
If "G-man" yields just G then instead we can get G + HEART* + (CAUGH(-t) in CAN) but then instead we are missing an M.
Oh, duh.
"G-man" yields G (from G) plus M (for man) and then we get the right letters.
But although "G" can indicate G and "man" can indicate M, I am not convinced that "G-man" can indicate GM. I mean clearly it can, because it does, right here, but I'd be a bit surprised to see that construction in a newspaper crossword.
 
Maybe that use of the dash as a separator was what jafe was feeling guilty for?
 
Maybe.
It would fit with "Punctuation is important."
 
yeah you have the correct answer
 
8:46 AM
the answer has the correct answer
 
what the hint refer to is that the intended def is "CCCC regular" :)
 
oh, I see.
(the important punctuation being the colon after "CCCC" that isn't there, I take it)
 
yeah
 
The Curious Case of the Colon in the CCCC Clue.
 
ohboy
 
8:50 AM
didn't think the GM for g-man would be unorthodox
pretty sure i've used a hyphenated word somewhere where the first part was part of the wordplay and the second part of the definition, which i assume is even worse :P
 
You should have confused everyone by removing the colon (although ofc that would lead to a faster solve)
 
He did remove the colon, and it made no difference to the solving time because I didn't notice.
 
Oh wait he did??? Dang I'm blind ;-;
 
That was creative...
 
0
Q: The King and the Oracle

KeelhaulThere was a king that wanted to go to war. But before that, he decided to go see the Oracle of the nearest temple, in order to estimate his chances and to have a clearer vision of his destiny. However, oracles always seem to speak nonsense (and with poor grammar), and this one was no exception. ...

 
9:04 AM
Wait, I backread one of the CCCC's and.. how does $50 become a peso??
 
Are you sure it does? ("$" could become PESO; is it possible you're missing an L somewhere from the "50"?)
 
OH
I had no idea they do it in latin america like that
Part of my confusion was that-- I guess I'm officially spoiling where I am but-- seeing that we write peso as "₱", I'm more familiar with that :0
And another confusing part was that ~₱50 = $1 (USD), but the C4 seemingly suggested the opposite
 
9:42 AM
I knew neither that the currency there is called the peso nor that it's notated differently from all other pesos. Today I learned something; thank you.
 
10:08 AM
that's nice I guess :o
 
10:31 AM
wasn't your location already known @oAlt? at least i think i've seen it in your profile at some point... or maybe i'm confusing you with someone else
 
@jafe I don't know who knew but I definitely put it in my profile for a short while heh
Changed my mind after
 
ok i see
 
 
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2:52 PM
0
Q: It fits on every person

xKobaltClue 1: All starts and all finishes Clue 2: Good or bad Clue 3: Every person is affected by _______s Clue 4: Used as a linking verb, too Clue 5: As many letters as a single rucksack brand Who am I?

 
spongebob voice 4 hours later
 
hey there matt!
 
hello (:
TIL google meets has a background blur
 
3:17 PM
0
Q: Another Jewel Cave

Jeremy DoverAs in a previous puzzle, the goal of this Jewel Cave is to place the given shapes (in this case, the standard pentomino set) into the grid, subject to the following rules: All unshaded squares must form a single orthogonally (on a side) connected region. Two shapes cannot be orthogonally adjacen...

 
> how do enzymes speed up chemical reactions? option b. they move very fast
yeah sure
 
Sid
@matt sounds legit imo
 
haha
they just lower the activation energy
 
Sid
@matt that's the boring answer
 
im surprised I still remember that as well
 
3:31 PM
@Sid hmm
let's see here ... i ended up getting a solid 85% on that test
 
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Q: Another weird crossword? What is this cat burglar up to?

Voldemort's WrathRemember our favorite cat burglar from last time? Yeah, they’re back. This time, they left this not-so-standard crossword puzzle behind. I found this in the newspaper and wanted to share it with some Puzzlers to see if they would be interested in helping out the police. u v l d t c q 3 b h j f x ...

 
4:31 PM
Okay, I'm back to a puzzle that has 2 solutions and some (in my opinion) really fun deductions. Now to figure out how to force one solution without invalidating those deductions...
 
hm, you can't place a clue that would rule out one of those two solutions?
 
I can, but I don't want to make the previous deductions unecessay
There are a few places to put a clue, I'm debating between them
 
0
Q: Pandigital POSTERIAL

Bernardo Recamán SantosEach of the 9 letters of the word POSTERIAL has been assigned a different integer value between 1 and 9. With those same values, the product of the letters in each of the following words is as indicated: P I L O T = 144 S A I L O R = 6,048 A L E R T = 840 S A T I R E = 10,080 A P O S T L E = 5,76...

 
makes sense
@Sphinx also, I'm running into a contradiction here
 
 
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5:48 PM
0
Q: All numbers from 51 to 5001 are written

Jingbo the dudeAll odd numbers from 51 to 5001 are written. What is total number of digits used?

 
Avi
ONE TWO THREE = (NET WORTH + OEE)*
 
6:38 PM
3
Q: What is a Multietude™ word?

Kyle WilliamsonThis puzzle is in the spirit of the What is a Word/Phrase™ series started by JLee with a special brand of Phrase™ and Word™ puzzles. If a word conforms to a special rule, I call it a Multietude™ word. Here is a list of Multietude™ and not-Multietude™ words: And CSV version: Multietude;Not-Multi...

 
Avi
7:11 PM
oops
It sounds a fiddle
Found in the middle
'Tween fingers that twiddle
Hot unlike a griddle
'Tis the answer to this riddle
Answer - rot13(sevpgvba)
 
7:29 PM
no solutions again... grrrr
 
@bobble on what?
 
A Statue Park I'm constructing
 
that is definitely a grrrr moment
 
I keep messing around with the clues - trying to force some global logic & local logic interactions. I've got my heart set on one particular deduction.
 
why that deduction specifically?
 
7:34 PM
Because it's cool
And I keep almost making it work
 
uh, here. sympathy grrrr
better? :P
 
@Sphinx yay!
 
@Voldemort'sWrath I've blocked the Sphinx so unfortunately I don't know what you are happy about
 
8:08 PM
my newest puzzle :):)
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Q: Another weird word search? What is this cat burglar up to?

Voldemort's WrathRemember our favorite cat burglar from last time? Yeah, they’re back. This time, they left this not-so-standard word search puzzle behind. I found this in the newspaper and wanted to share it with some Puzzlers to see if they would be interested in helping out the police. u v l d t c q 3 b h j f ...

 
9:09 PM
0
Q: Given the results from adding, what are the values of a, b, c, d and e?

risky mysteriesI have a python code, and here are the very last lines of it: print(e + a) e.append(3) print(c + d) b.append(1) print(b + a) When I run my entire program, the output is: [1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4] [1, 2, 3, 1, 2] [3, 4, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4] Your task is to uncover the other half of the code, namely how eac...

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Q: What is a North-America™ word?

Kyle WilliamsonThis puzzle is in the spirit of the What is a Word/Phrase™ series started by JLee with a special brand of Phrase™ and Word™ puzzles. If a word conforms to a special rule, I call it a North-America™ word. Here is a list of North-America™ and not North-America™ words: And CSV version: North-Ameri...

 
9:59 PM
0
Q: Closing an irrational curve

ZomulgustarFor any rational multiple of 2π radians, a finite number of congruent circular arcs can be assembled into a continuous (possibly self-intersecting) closed curve. There are many other possibilities, but for fractions of the form 1/n, one can simply use n copies to reconstitute a circle. And more...

 
10:16 PM
@Sciborg, random stuff I'm curious about:
1) Any bobblie updates
2) How far you are into "How To Train Your Dragon"
3) If you're making/solving any Around the Bends
 
 
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11:40 PM
0
Q: Maximising the number of lit lightbulbs through row-column toggling

user591814You have an $n\times n$ grid, with each cell containing a lightbulb. On a move, you may select a lightbulb, and toggle the state of that lightbulb, and all other lightbulbs sharing a row or column. For example, toggling the red $0$ results in $$\begin{bmatrix} 1 & \color{#c20}{0}& 1 \\\ 0 & 0 & ...

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Q: Spies in Puzzlevania

SaladaniWhat I am about to tell you doesn't leave this room. For the past year, we've grown concerned by occurrences in the nation of Puzzlevania. We believe a major attack may be imminent. However, the general refuses to act without more concrete evidence of a threat. To that end, we are preparing to di...

 

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