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00:11
Greetings to everyone.
 
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07:07
Does scipy's curve_fit struggle with large values or something? Because it doesn't seem to be working for me with params on the order of 10^80
10^80 might have some overflow errors, depending on what values they use
But what error do you get?
@Slereah "can't convert complex to float" of all things
lowering it to 10^10 doesn't give that error but isn't really viable
Weird
I would advise looking up the line number in the scipy sourcecode, if given
it may illuminate
i'll see if mathematica can handle it
my guess is no tho
07:23
Mathematica can do symbolic calculations, depending on what algorithm they use it may go better
@SirCumference I don't know about scipy but this is a common error in python generally if you do sqrt(x) and then try to convert the result to float, since if x is negative the result is complex not a float. Probably it's an overflow error like Slereah says so that something that scipy assumes is always positive suddenly gets negative.
Oh, for smaller values still > 10^10 scipy gives "OverflowError: (34, 'Result too large')"
darn
If you're doing curve fitting, that may be simple enough to just write yourself
just proceed cautiously
07:53
"In 1850 the Swiss astronomer Wolf rolled one white and one red die 20,000 times, kept track of the results, and determined the frequency of each outcome (Bulmer 1967). Also, a certain nineteenth-century English biologist Weldon also rolled twelve dice 26,306 times and recorded the number of 5s and 6s (Fry 1928)."
One way to pass the time I suppose.
it was for science
 
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09:55
Where is @Pm2Ring
it is a very long time talking to him
10:13
@JohnRennie @ACuriousMind Does he left the site? or changed his name?
Sep 30 at 16:22, by ACuriousMind
@Azmuth Last seen on chat 41 days ago, you probably won't summon him just by complaining here.
I am not summoning here, I was just asking casually.
@JackRod Last seen two days ago according to their profile, so they are still active. They just haven't used the chat for ages.
@JohnRennie Thanks sir
By the way, I am going for an adventure sport
Rafting?
10:17
Bungee Jumping
Oh wow, I've always wanted to try that!
near one of the oldest fort of Rajasthan
I used to go rock climbing in my younger days, and I've done a lot of abseiling including down some very high buildings, but I've never done a bungee jump.
let me share you the video sir
like there is a IIT name IIT mandi which is surrounded by hills and lakes within the campus
adventure sport within the campus
you will see the lake as well as the mountains
10:23
loved it
it is scary but very enjoyable and adventures
@JohnRennie
Very hilly. What hills are those? I guess Rajasthan isn't far enough north to be the Himalayas?
it is far
it is Himachal land of mountians
you can see the river inside the campus well student are not allowed to go there
because it is dangerous
@JohnRennie
@JackRod Himachal Pradesh?
10:52
@JohnRennie yes
i was reading about the change in the magnetic field of the moon after every 11 years
moon?
i.e. the sunspot cycle?
no sir they have mentioned some movements of the material within the moon changes the magnetic field
I didn't know the Moon's magnetic field varied. I thought it was geologically inert.
10:55
@JohnRennie
yes
@JohnRennie
11:10
too bad they never gave it to hawking
or Gandhi
11:25
Gandhi never did any physics
@Slereah Nobel Peace Prize
Gandhi and Nelson Mandela two great people i admire the most
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Q: What is this end goal of this site?

BuraianFrom what I heard since I've joined, I've understood that the purpose of stack was to make a knowledge repository but what if one day we document every single possible questions which could be asked? Would the site change policies if such a day came?

to spend 27 years in prison and come out to be elected president is unbelievable
11:57
Gandhi didn't leave a lot of peace in his wake either!
who knows how much peace he would've left behind if he wasn't assassinated
But then the same is true of everyone
perhaps I am all that's keeping world peace
The real world peace was the friends we made along the way.
12:12
That whole album is so good.
classic
imho
I bought it on a whim like 10 years ago because I recognized a few of the songs, only to realize I recognized almost all of them once I heard them.
better late, than never :-)
12:43
Let $\{\hat{e_i}\}$ be an form a basis set.

$$\sum_i |\hat{e_i}\rangle \langle \hat{e_i}| = \mathbf{I}$$

What are the restrictions on the basis set for the completeness relation to hold?
It surely can't be true for any basis set because that would imply that any set of vectors whose sum of outer products lead to a full-rank matrix is I (and I can give a counterexample to prove this wrong). So what are the conditions on the basis set so that the sum of outer products results in identity?
Is there a shortcut for bra and ket vectors in mathjax? I currently use | and langle/rangle command. It's too much to type and makes the raw code illegible.
@Yashas it needs to be an orthonormal basis.
@ACuriousMind is this the weakest condition? I mean can there be a softer set of conditions where it holds?
I don't think so
but I haven't thought about it all too deeply
I don't think vanilla mathjax has a shortcut for bra/kets, no
You can define shortcuts if you want in your own work, though
For instance I use

\\newcommand{\OLD}[2]{\langle{#1,#2}\rangle}
\\newcommand{\p}[1]{\langle{#1}\rangle}
(the double backslash is so that mathjax won't interpret it here)
(it should be a single backslash)
13:03
yeah, using newcommand with Mathjax doesn't work that well
in chat it stops working when the newcommand is not among the displayed messages, and on the site it affects all posts on the page
which leads to bad results e.g. when two different answerers try to define the same command
latex shortcuts are nice but otoh it means you can no longer copy paste directly from that document
13:23
@Slereah hahahahahahahaha... XD LOL LMAO! BEST!!!
He said the joke
They were talking about Nobel Prize and Gandhi,
he said
Gandhi never did any physics
The way he said was fun...
Hey, can anyone tell me where can I get this cycle?
That looks sooo fun!
Background seems a bit of Europe....
So any eu guy here can help?
Do non-normalizable solutions belong to Hilbert space?
I think no because it's isomorphic to L2 and you need to have square integral functions in L2. But now I am confused what are we doing when we are working with non-physical solutions like free particle. Aren't QM postulates being violated?
What is the underlying framework while working with non-normalizable systems like free particle?
The rigged Hilbert space
Basically distributions for Hilbert spaces
13:50
@JohnRennie Sir I will move tonight will share pictures with you
@JackRod OK :-)
I am scared I haven't did it before
The thing about bungie jumping is you know you are safe because thousands of other people have bungie jumped at the same place and not died. So while it's still scary it's fun scary not trouser wetting scary :-)
Lol!!!
WUT!?
13:54
@Azmuth Yuvraj is going to hurl himself off a cliff top
@JohnRennie first time when I was on the raft I was 17
(tied to a rope)
At that time I was fully overflowed by water when started
I used to go white water canoeing when I was younger. That could get pretty hairy. I actually got knocked out once when my head was bashed against a rock by the current.
Some would say that explains a lot :-)
I hope you are doing well after that stunt thingy
13:57
@JohnRennie my friend did that before
Hey does anyone here uses AMD Processor?
How does AMD Compare to Intel?
@JackRod when rafting? Was he OK?
@Azmuth the latest AMD processors are considerably better than Intel's 10th gen CPUs. It remains to be seen how they compare with the 11th gen CPUs that will be released next year.
It has Inbuilt AI in it!
@JohnRennie he is fine
14:00
If you Google for this you'll find loads and loads of articles saying how much better the AMD Zen2 CPUs are.
Okay..., then I should buy an AMD Processor thingy...
@JohnRennie Okay... So, which is the latest AMD Processor?
Then we are going for open jeep ride in wild life scantury
@Azmuth are you building a PC from scratch?
@JohnRennie No, gettin' a new Laptop...
Black berg and leopard will be on my eye radar
It is all fun after hectic lockdown a camp fire in the forest near thr scantury in night
14:01
@Azmuth there aren't that many laptops with AMD CPUs yet.
A 3 day memorable trip @JohnRennie
@JackRod it sounds great :-)
@JohnRennie Then I'd have to go with INTEL?
With the lockdown stuff going on I suspect you'll find your choice is a bit limited.
Okay...
14:08
@Azmuth do you want a 15" screen? And is your budget 60k rupees?
Yes, my Budget is 60k rupees, but, I'm flexible with screensize...
At 60k rupees you have lots of choice. HP and Lenovo do great laptops at that price as well as Dell. That Dell laptop is very good, but to be honest all laptops are good these days.
@JohnRennie This is good - reliancedigital.in/… but way out of my budget...
hahaha :_
:-)
If I were looking for a 100K INR laptop I'd be looking at a Dell XPS 15. That's probably the best laptop around at the moment.
@JohnRennie You have those O.o? I'd rather chew it up it in a single day if I ever had... hehehe
14:13
No, I have a Dell 17" laptop.
processor?
I need a 17" screen because it's used for lots of work stuff.
I'm currently using a 14'' one....
It's an i7 but I can't remember which.
ok, i7 is lit!
14:15
i7-8565U
It's a couple of years old now so it has an 8th gen CPU.
I'm currently thinking for buying a Snapdragon 665 phone...
Realme C5 sounds lit!
@Azmuth I really like OnePlus phones. I've used a OnePlus phone for about five years now.
It's cool and cheap. I like that... let me check if that's here in India...
@JohnRennie OnePlus?? You've too got that in UK?
It's pretty popular here...
14:23
@Azmuth go for asus
Yes, it's not so big in the UK though.
Oh okay....
I'm lookin for realme C5, Cheap and awesome
All phones are good these days. Just get the one you like.
Yep :)
If I were going to buy a phone now I'd probably get the OnePlus Nord.
14:27
Okay... let me check it...
Nord is out of pockets for me...
I thought it was about the same as the C5 ...
I just have 8k rupees budget, Realme C5 seems good.... (temporary phone, will change that later)
10k, that's a great price!
It'd be around 7-8k during Amazon/Flipcart Diwali offers...
yep, taking consideration of their features, it's great :)
Yes, the Nord is 25k in India.
14:33
Yep! :)
I'm still using a OnePlus 3 that I've had for four years. It still works fine so I'm in no hurry to replace it.
I'll be using a smartphone for the first time, never needed it... I used feature phones because I've a habit of dropping and forgetting them...
I used my Mother's Mi 4W, that was also pretty great.... but, it's 6 years old smartphone model...
@JohnRennie Do you watch any series? Anime or something?
@Azmuth I've never liked watching TV or films. I prefer to read.
@JohnRennie I dun watch them on TV either, I prefer them on mobile...
@JohnRennie Have you read The Alchemist?
By ... ?
14:40
@JohnRennie what?
Didn't get it...? By to what?
I meant who wrote the book. Paul Coelho?
yep
that one.
You've read it?
No I haven't.
Okay... Do you read such books?
It's short ~ 150 pages...
14:44
That's soo many books!
You read all completely?
Yes. I read 2 or 3 books a week
Book size?
How soo quick?
It takes me around a week to complete one...
I love reading :-)
A new book in a series I'm addicted to just came out today, so I've been binging the audiobook :D
Wow!
@JMac which?
14:47
Cradle by Will Wight, it's a fantasy series about basically magic martial artists who gain more and more power and essentially reach new levels.
Wow@
I like such kinda things....
I think the first 7 books (8th just came out) are free on Amazon for a few more days. They're pretty short and addictive books
WOW!
So you might as well get them if you're kinda interested
14:49
John casually reading more in 1 year than I read in 13 years of school under constant pressure from english teachers :P
No big deal
Let me start from the first...
I also wanted to read Leo Tolstay's Emotional Complexes, they were about 11,000 pages long....
@Charlie all crap science fiction though :-)
@Charlie lol
@JMac it's got great reviews on Goodreads. I'll go grab a copy.
I don't believe my eyes anymore...
What the heck I just saw!
14:59
@JohnRennie Yeah, might as well get the first 7 while they're free, even if you never read them really. The series gets really addictive as the books go on. It's another book I was kinda "meh" on until it takes a pretty sudden twist in book 1 that hooked me. By book 2 I was in the mindset to read the whole series in a week.
The books are free on Kindle Unlimited so I'll grab them all.
I've nearly finished my current book so I'll start "Unsouled" tonight.
Oh yeah you have KU it wouldn't matter anyways
@JohnRennie Do you read e-books?
@YouKnowMe I only read e-books these days. I read them on a Chromebook. I haven't read a paper book for years.
 
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16:14
@skullpatrol Gandhi is a very problematic individual to be given a Nobel Peace prize to. Though it has been given to plenty of problematic people anyway
17:04
Hi, is there anyone can help me about buoyancy of water
I am designing a submarine prototype, and have open questions about its pitch angle when it is tremble in thr balance
17:58
uh quick question, possibly a silly one, when we say a choice of gauge is not Lorentz invariant, we mean that a Lorentz transformation would change the gauge itself, right?
To be a bit clearer, we mean given two non-Lorentz-invariant choices of gauge, $A$ and $B$, if we start in gauge $A$ and Lorentz transform and re-do calculations we would obtain results in a different gauge like $B$ for instance.
18:11
@JMac for a moment I thought stormlight archive 4 was released. And then I realised it was still October. Time has lost its meaning this year I’m afraid
@Charlie yes
nice tyvm
every time you write that my brain goes "What's a 'tyvm'?...oooohhh"
:p is it not a common abbreviation in germany or something?
I think it's just not very common in the parts of the internet I frequent/the people I text with, I'm much more used to 'thx'
 
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19:38
@Slereah : See also the not-a-footnote [42] here :D
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20:17
@Qmechanic hahaha. That entire paper is amazing. My personal favourite is “$D\psi$ of relief”
 
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21:47
Of interest to some of us here:
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Q: Does the Schrödinger equation yield a unique wave function and density?

GalliumBerylliumI am learning DFT and the Hohenberg Kohn Theorem of Existence. It says that there is a one-to-one correspondence between the external potential and the density. However the proofs that I have seen only show that potential gives a unique density. How do we know that a density gives a unique potent...

 
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23:19
It is no longer possible to dance the night away youtube.com/watch?v=llfjDUB66Z4 RIP Eddie Van Halen.

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