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Robusto

7:00 PM

Q.E.D.

There are two scheduled releases, not three.

tchrist

Man, do I have foul news for you.

Cerberus

@Robusto I don't think those dots are correct.

Robusto

@Cerberus I. Didn't. Mean. Them. To. Be.

Cerberus

Then you have Jasper to fear.

RegDwight АΑA

►

Cerberus

7:01 PM

For he guards his inventions jealously.

tchrist

theonering.net/torwp confirms that there are now three films per official announcement, with the third premièring in Summer 2014.

Robusto

I fear no Jaspers, or any of their ilk.

Cerberus

We'll see.

tchrist

omnis divisa in partes tres

RegDwight АΑA

Gezondhijd.

Robusto

7:02 PM

@tchrist Oh, FFS.

tchrist

aye

Cerberus

By the way, isn't it time for you to pick a nice icon for yourself?

Robusto

If The Hobbit had been a cow Peter Jackson couldn't have milked it any harder.

Cerberus

Maybe Christ on a cross?

tchrist

Seems when he was trying to make the bifurcating cut he had too many hours.

skullpatrol

7:03 PM

@Robusto Who you calling an "ilk?"

Cerberus

Or on a stick, as Vitaly and Reg would have him.

tchrist

He always does this. I think he shot like 16 hours for the three Lord of the Rings films.

MetaEd

@Cerberus Yes, but what would it be in PIE?

RegDwight АΑA

Christ bearing his Crossbike

Acrylic on paper.

Robusto

@tchrist Well, but TLOTR had that much text to cover. He actually left stuff out.

MetaEd

7:04 PM

@Robusto Get a rope.

Cerberus

@MetaEd I think the root of super and hyper is something like *swp-.

Robusto

Whatever happened to brevity? I mean brvty.

RegDwight АΑA

Single word prequest?

tchrist

†☧ᶥﬅ: by this sign shall I conquer.

Wit's soul was murdered by Polonius.

Robusto

In hoc Señor Wences.

RegDwight АΑA

7:05 PM

@tchrist no, that was Alexander Litvinenko.

Robusto

Señor Wences

Wenceslao Moreno (April 17, 1896 – April 20, 1999), better known as Señor Wences, was a Spanish ventriloquist. His popularity grew with his frequent appearances on CBS-TV's Ed Sullivan Show in the 1950s and 1960s. Early life Wences was born in Peñaranda de Bracamonte, Salamanca, Spain. His father was Antonio Moreno Ross, artist, and his mother was Josefa Centeno Lavera, both from Salamanca. His name Wenceslao is of Czech origin (Václav) meaning "victorious". As a newborn, his family was so destitute that his birth certificate was three days late being filed. (This has led to some confusi...

Cerberus

@tchrist That's nice.

Although Christ is usually abbreviated xps, IIRC.

tchrist

@Cerberus There, I’ve added a t for you via a dagger/cross.

Cerberus

Ah, nice cross.

tchrist

@Robusto I think people from Salamanca have a funny demonym. Spacing it right now.

cornbread ninja

7:10 PM

@tchrist lolwut (obligatory)

RegDwight АΑA

Salamanca Rushdie.

cornbread ninja

Song of Salamanca.

@RegDwightАΑA was born on a Mundee?

Mitch

"his family was so destitute that his birth certificate was three days late being filed." The writer of this article has not given birth lately or filed papers for a birth certificate. The lines to get a driver's license are one flap of a humming bird's wings in comparison. And the mom just gave birth.

s/family was so destitute/father was so drunk

Robusto

@tchrist Hector Salamanca?

RegDwight АΑA

@cornbreadninja no, on Mount Rushdiemore. Duh.

tchrist

7:13 PM

It’s like somebody from Cádiz is a gaditano. I think someone from Salamanca is a salamandrino, or in English, a newt.

RegDwight АΑA

yesterday, by RegDwight АΑA

KitFox

@tchrist newts and salamanders are not the same thing. frowny

RegDwight АΑA

See picture.

QED

tchrist

@KitFox You appear to have a fracture in your upper arm.

KitFox

I have a headache.

And I am naturally suspicious of outsiders.

Robusto

7:15 PM

Malcom in the Middle!

KitFox

@Robusto yoink

cornbread ninja

@Robusto life is unfair

tchrist

@Robusto Hey, this is a family channel. None of that middleware business.

Cerberus

@tchrist Really?

It sort of makes sense...

Robusto

Cerberus

7:17 PM

But Salamander sounds so Greek!

Robusto

OK, here's your Disney version. ^

tchrist

@Cerberus I'm still looking for the demonym.

Robusto

Frickin' doggy tweened me.

Cerberus

@Robusto Hey, I know that guy!

tchrist

Found it: salmantino, salmanticense, salamanqués, salamanquino, charro

RegDwight АΑA

7:19 PM

@Robusto it's been Malcolm in the Middle that's sustained us as a people for 3000 years!

Cerberus

It's Hal, Malcolm's father.

tchrist

From here. Some of those are bizarre.

Cerberus

@tchrist Ah, that is closer to what one would expect.

KitFox

salamantino/a

Cerberus

Charro is probably informal.

Robusto

7:19 PM

Someone flagged my Hector Salamanca.

tchrist

prolly

cornbread ninja

Can we down-vote EC, or must we just ignore his nomination?

CHARRRRO!

tchrist

The one I was remembering as bizarre was that Ciudad Rodrigo in the Salamanca region has the bizarre demonym of mirobrigense.

RegDwight АΑA

@cornbreadninja you can downvote in primaries. You can only upvote in the elections proper.

cornbread ninja

Cerberus

7:21 PM

> from Gk. salamandra, probably of eastern origin.

cornbread ninja

@RegDwightАΑA Excellent. tents fingers

Cerberus

@tchrist That sounds Latinate...?

tchrist

Does English has special demonyms for its cities? It does, right?

In Britain.

Cerberus

Perhaps there was a Greek city Microbrigae there with the demonym Microbrigensis in Latin?

RegDwight АΑA

So is @Rob still with us? Or have we flagged the shit out of him again?

Robusto

7:22 PM

Nah, I'm here.

I think.

RegDwight АΑA

Okay.

tchrist

San Sebastián > donostiarra, easonense; Fuerteventura > majorero; Ávila > abulense. I think there are British city demonyms that go back to Latin.

Robusto

@KitFox: Your jQuery answer was deleted. I would complain on MSO.

Jez

I'm trying out Dominos pizza tonight

KitFox

@Robusto shrugs

Robusto

7:25 PM

A man of modest ambitions.

RegDwight АΑA

@Jez famous last words.

Speaking of which, Dexter time.

Nominations close in 30 minutes.

MetaEd

@Cerberus Supposed to be *uper- according to OEtmD

but there's a typo in the hyper- entry

which I advised the author of

Has anybody tried to make up a PIE grammar?

KitFox

I could make one up right now if you want.

tchrist

Those damn Romans have been at it again: Oxford > Oxonian; Cambridge > Cantabrigian; Leeds > Leodensian; Manchester > Mancunian; New Castle > Novocastrian.

cornbread ninja

@Jez avoid the Noid.

g'day @MattЭллен

Mitch

7:32 PM

@tchrist what about Glasgow->Glaswegian?

tchrist

@Mitch That one we blame on the Scandihoovians, not the Romans.

Matt Эллен

hiya @cornbreadninja

Mitch

And Tasmania->Taswegian on the Hypoboreans?

tchrist

Surely hypoboreal = austral

KitFox

Speaking of hyperbored.

Matt Эллен

7:34 PM

@Robusto sorry, I introduced him to them by accident, earlier today: And thanks to Matt Эллен for getting me interested in these graphs :)

user19161

At least the primary won't make the election last even longer.

tchrist

@JasperLoy Never say never.

Wah, there are now 11 nominees.

So we go to primary.

To toss one out.

Matt Эллен

well, I think I know who will be tossed off...

although there could be a surprise turn around

tchrist

Messy business, that.

Matt Эллен

:D

Robusto

7:41 PM

@MattЭллен I hope you're very proud of yourself.

Matt Эллен

Always. I'm a shining beacon of imprefection

Robusto

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A: Is "senility" pejorative?

I have to disagree with the two current answers. If you call someone "senile" it is hard to see how it would not be taken as an insult in this day and age. Here are some usage notes from TheFreeDictionary.com: In earlier writings one finds phrases such as "a senile maturity of judgment" and...

Mysterious downvote. I think I've pissed someone off.

user19161

@Robusto Well, we all get downvotes from time to time. But then again, we all piss off people from time to time too.

Robusto

Nah, I've gotten a bunch today.

Cerberus

@MetaEd Hmm but I believe -er is a suffix. And where did the s come from, if it wasn't in the Proto-Indo-European root?

Robusto

7:44 PM

The thing is, it is impossible to call someone senile in this day and age and not have it be offensive.

Cerberus

If you call someone senile who is actually senile, it is not necessarily offensive.

Robusto

@Cerberus Wrong.

Cerberus

Then what is offensive?

I would have called my grandmother senile.

Or gaga.

Or whatever.

Robusto

It is offensive to call someone "crippled" in America these days, and has been for thirty years. James Watt lost his job in Reagan's cabinet for referring to someone (jokingly) as "a cripple."

When Reagan himself had Alzheimer's, nobody here referred to him as "senile."

@Cerberus The only way a person would not be offended is if they didn't understand the remark. If you call a calamitously stupid person an idiot, the word is an insult whether that person is bright enough to understand the term or not.

Cerberus

@MetaEd Hmm Pokorny also names something like up-, but he also notes that this probably came from an older root hukw-.

@Robusto I think discussing someone's illnesses in public is perhaps the problem here.

cornbread ninja

7:51 PM

What do you call them? Age-appropriately forgetful? Alzheimeristic?

user19161

Yo @corn! Now I think that pic looks a little like John Lennon.

cornbread ninja

@JasperLoy facepalm

tchrist

@Robusto To find out who mysteriously downvoted you, filter for age.