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5:00 PM
@OrigamiRobot Maybe to you... clearly if he's asking about it, it wasn't to him.
 
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Q: How to spit in the black pool?

fooDuring the Monster-Slayer admission quest, you are required to spit in the Black Pool. I found the pool, fought some monsters in and around it, but cannot frob the pool itself. How can I accomplish this tier of the quest?

Question and Answers like that that make me face palm self answering
 
I might not have gotten 'space bar' out of 'spc button'.
 
@GnomeSlicE Hence "should"
 
@GnomeSlicE And this is why we have opinions.
I say it should be obvious if they're playing in a beta, that it doesn't carry over.
 
@fbueckert It's got nothing to do with opinions, you can't just 'assume' something is painfully obvious to everyone even though it is to you.
 
5:01 PM
You say differently. That's your opinion.
 
@fbueckert Not to me it isn't.
 
okay guys, y'know this is at least the second time today he's complained about people voting. I don't think y'all are going to convince him.
 
And therein lies the difference, and why we ALL get to upvote or downvote, as we choose.
 
So, the new rule is that you downvote any questions that you already know the answer to?
 
Just stop now @fbueckert I do not think I can handle another debate of this sort with @GnomeSlicE today.
 
5:01 PM
Okie dokie.
 
Blanket statement: If you are under 80 years old and don't know that SPC means SPACE when it comes to computers, I think you are dumb.
 
That's all I'm going to say, then.
 
<=- is dumb then :(
 
@OrigamiRobot Thanks asshole.
I appreciate that.
Sheesh.
 
@OrigamiRobot My first result when running SPC through my brain comes up with "Student Price Card". Then I saw the caveat.
 
5:03 PM
SPC BUTTON sounds like something in the game, not a key on my keyboard.
Talk about being unfreindly.
 
@GnomeSlicE He asked what key it was.
 
@OrigamiRobot Just forget it, man. Right now, it's not worth the effort.
 
Ah, okay, right. But that doesn't change the fact that it's not the name of the key, and some people probably won't get it.
 
@fbueckert Yeah dont pick up the torch that @fbueckert dropped @OrigamiRobot :)
 
@fbueckert Would you shut up, it's not 'a fight'.
 
5:05 PM
@GnomeSlicE Now I'm debating if I should take offense to that. I didn't insult you, man.
 
So.. Who is playing ??
 
I'm not allowed to discuss anything that I have concerns about without being labeled as 'effort'?
 
FAE
@GnomeSlicE That is very rude.
 
@fbueckert Well, I didn't appreciate it.
@fbueckert It's none of your business who he or I discuss with, and you shouldn't tell people who they should or shouldn't be talking to.
 
@James Not I. I'm still playing D3. And Atelier Mereru. And Armored Core.
 
5:06 PM
@FAE I was going for rude.
 
Guys clearly something is going on with @GnomeSlicE and he is looking for an argument. I simply ask that you guys refuse to give him one here.
 
FAE
You're not going to help your case at all by being confrontational with people who are trying to address your points.
 
@FAE He's not. He's just telling Origro not to bother talking to me.
@James Again, incorrect...
 
Ok. Decision made. I'm leaving it alone. This time.
 
@fbueckert Thanks. And sorry.
 
5:06 PM
@fbueckert Ah... I tried it out this weekend and I have to say I think it worth while to give a try.. Its oddness, like playing a very well designed single player game with multiple people :)
 
I'm sorry that I don't think removing vowels makes things a mystery, especially when you have a finite number of options.
 
@James I tried to sign up and they banned me
 
@tiddy How... what.. why... what?!?
 
FAE
@GnomeSlicE If you intend to be rude at all in discussions here, then I would kindly suggest you take those discussions elsewhere.
 
@MarkTrapp, I'm confused by your comments on this meta thread meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/q/5056/13845
 
5:08 PM
@tiddy That takes talent, man. You didn't even get to finish the registration process before they banned you.
 
FAE
Inciting conflict is not Being Nice.
 
"Oh, no, @tiddy signed up! Quick! Ban him!"
 
@FAE I wasn't discussing with him. I was talking to OrigmaiRobot.
 
are you saying that you don't agree with @GraceNote's suggested policy?
 
@FAE I apologized.
 
5:08 PM
@James, payment issues. No idea what caused it but payment was declined. I tried to sign in without noticing this. I guess that caused the ban. Funcom wants me to email their default support email with a jpeg of Driver's license & credit card
 
seems like a weird place to express disagreement with it
 
@tiddy LOL No effing way do that man.
 
Not sure why they let me download the game if I hadn't paid for it
 
@tiddy paypal by chance?
 
No regular VISA
 
5:09 PM
I heard quite a few people were having issues with Paypal validating and such properly.
 
user2334
@agent86 policy guidance, and I don't now that I've seen it used in practice. I think it's being abused to substitute common sense community moderation with another hard and fast rule. I'm writing an answer on the older discussion
 
Hmmm.. Oddness
 
I switched to PayPal because I figured that would be easier. Nope
I don't understand the jpeg ID and CC stuff. That seems...irresponsible and shady
 
@tiddy My problem with the signup was it appeared to all be on an unsecured connection. After I clicked the submit button it was HTTPS and I just have to hope funcom are not daft enough to have put the first page just over HTTP
 
@MarkTrapp From what I recall from the discussions that lead to that question and answer, it was grace's intent that those things not get re-opened, and that they get deleted, and it seemed like the community agreed...
 
5:11 PM
@OrigamiRobot I apologize if I appeared confrontational... that wasn't my intention.
Assuming you haven't ignored me.
 
I don't really know how we can separate pre-release questions into categories of "stuff that should get re-opened" versus "stuff that should get deleted"
 
@James, I also noticed their CC info form only contains one address line. My CC is billed to my old APT, I've since moved into a house. That address change is still being processed by bank. So all and all I have no idea what is causing the issues
 
@tiddy Blizzard required a scan of my PhotoID when I was monkeying around with my battle.net accounts which I can understand and such. But if you do send them that information (cause the game is kewl) then I highly recommend you do not just send them unobstructed.. LIke blank off all the numbers but the first 4 or so... I dunno man.. Just that whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth
 
@James I had to do this when I gave away my authenticator to friends, since I wasn't playing WoW anymore.
 
@GnomeSlicE I don't ignore anyone.
 
5:13 PM
@OrigamiRobot That's reassuring.
 
TWICE I sent them the information they requested, and both times, they rejected it because they said they couldn't read it.
 
@James haha definitely. Im considering emailing the picture. But I will remove all photos, numbers, information. The only thing I'll leave will be name. And the name and last 4 digits of CC
 
Nevermind, dont want to feed the topic.
 
Sound about right?
 
@James I wasn't talking to you.
 
5:13 PM
@fbueckert Ah, smoke signals.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yeah. I finally just called up my friends who had the authenticator, and removed it by getting two keys.
Then I tore a strip off of the customer service reps for being so unhelpful.
 
@fbueckert I actually had a smooth time with all of this.
I was just merging two of my battle.net accounts into one.
 
@James YOU live in the States, I believe.
My driver's license doesn't photocopy well at all.
 
@fbueckert That I do.. about 50min from Blizzard actually.
Ahh..
 
user2334
@agent86 You don't need to. Trying to sort things into concrete boxes without looking at the context of the situation is exactly the type of thing I'm saying is abusive. We should be judging individual questions on their merits, not whether some rule that only a few people who follow meta have seen and understand applies. We don't make the internet a better place by deleting questions that would be just fine had they been asked after a certain timestamp
 
5:15 PM
@fbueckert Did you scan it? Or just take a photo.
 
@James Oh, good. Now I know who to talk to if I need someone to visit them.
@GnomeSlicE Scan. First time, they said it was too dark.
Second time, it was too light.
 
@fbueckert Ugh, They are going down the crapper man.. There is nothing worth visiting
 
@fbueckert ............
@fbueckert I'd offer to clean up your scans for you, but I'm not really keen on asking for your personal information.
 
@James I meant visit as in, "Here, have a shotgun." :P
@GnomeSlicE This was years ago.
 
@fbueckert LoL, I think you mean 'Staging area' then ;)
 
5:17 PM
@James That would work. :P
 
@fbueckert Oh, whoops, confused you with @tiddy and his current problem.
 
@GnomeSlicE Oh my heavens no.
 
@MarkTrapp without rules that everyone can understand and can be applied consistently, we're just going to make a mess of things. if it's not clear what action should be taken in most cases, we end up with edit wars, close/open fights, inconsistent/hypocritical enforcement, etc.
 
 
@James How dare you. This means war sir.
 
5:18 PM
that's not to say there's no gray area, but demarcating large swaths of gray area just leads to pointless bickering
 
@James so how are you liking TSW?
 
@Shinrai Very much so
 
@James Awesome.
 
this was the problem we had with ITG - people didn't know what constituted "too vague" to cast a close vote, and then we had people who hated ITG and would close vote everything, and daily we had fights over the questions.
 
@Wipqozn Sorry man, needed to clean the field so to speak, so a little implied swooshing was necessary. Just no other way to do it.
 
5:19 PM
@James I'm going to start making a comment about how Monstrous that image is every time someone links it...
 
@GnomeSlicE Super Mario World, Castle THeme, if I'm not mistaken.
 
@Wipqozn X gon' give it to you (WHUT) fuck waitin' for you to get it on your own, X gon' deliver to you.
 
@Shinrai I am eager to get a bit further into the dragon character I am playing right now. I have to say overall I am liking the dragon's take on things but I would like to do a templar next and maybe an illuminati last.
 
They actually apply to the context of capturing intelligence.
Which is what makes it so great.
@Wipqozn I've linked it before.
 
@James How far into the game proper are you?
 
5:20 PM
@GnomeSlicE Well, it's good.
 
@Shinrai I rushed through Kingsmouth a bit too fast it seems, I highly recommend NOT going there if your gear is all QL 1-2 :D
 
@GnomeSlicE Hey!
 
@Wipqozn It's mostly just because of the monstrous image of the turtle.
@RonanForman Hey?
 
Erm, Not going to the Savage Woods until you have QL3 gear.
 
@GnomeSlicE Stop slagging off my pictures!
 
5:21 PM
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
 
@RonanForman Monstrous = 'large' sorry.
I meant it's a really big image.
 
@Shinrai I think I should have taken the hint when I was surrounded by guys with twice to 10 times my health while trying to make it to the air lines :)
 
@GnomeSlicE The damage has been done.
Give me an hour to draw the comeback.
 
5:23 PM
@James lolol
I've been taking my time and have never been in serious trouble. (Except for the area southeast of the airport in Kingsmouth though which is obviously endgame tier stuff)
 
@Shinrai Yeah I was in the savage woods and every quest rated as 'Devistating' :D I asked about it and was told to fix my gear, didnt change anything and they went 'So uh what QL is your gear?' hehe.. Apparently that place is a QL3 place :D
 
Anyways, time to swoosh.
 
Yeah those giant hulking things with 21000 health?
Those are what I was talking about.. and then teh zombie packs where each of them have like 4000 health and do 1/5th my health a hit.. I was like 'Why am I here!?' and then I stupidly walked into a bear trap :D
@Wipqozn Damn Straight
 
@James Still no chance to check out any of the Gust games, I take it? :P
 
user2334
@agent86 If a rule prevents the site from fulfilling its function to make the internet a better place by providing expert answers to relevant questions, that rule is invalid (q.v., Wikipedia). The "fairness" justification for the rule does not supersede our site's mission. Life isn't fair.
 
5:30 PM
@MarkTrapp we have lots of rules in this vein though. For instance, "why did the developer do it that way" questions are sometimes answerable - the developer said why at one point. we still close them all. That's not really making the internet a better place, but it's still the rule.
 
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Q: What is a good (non legendary) crafting item to invest in?

ayckosterSo basically I have a ton (400+) of Inferno Essences, because I salvage every iLvl 61+ item with less than 1000 gold vendor price in hope for a Fiery Essence. Now I want to "invest" those crafting materials in items. I know I have to buy a recipe eventually, but which one? My goal is to either g...

 
@fbueckert Not really man.. and my backlog of games is sooo huge I dunno if adding new ones will get them played any time soon..
I blame @LessPopMoreFizz and @Shinrai for this whole TSW playing thing
 
@James I'm looking for some more RPGs to play. Any you'd recommend?
 
Though I will say its nice to play an MMO that is enjoyable and not WoW at the same time.
 
I almost forgot!
here's today's listening:
@FAE: Since you loved the Bach one I linked, I'm thinking you'll like this one too! Unless you hate Mozart for some reason. But that would make you a monster.
musical tortoise swoosh
 
FAE
5:33 PM
@Wipqozn Ah, neat, thanks
 
@Wipqozn envisioning a flying tortoise with rainbow notes
 
@fbueckert Hop To @RonanForman :D
 
@fbueckert What's musical about rainbows?
 
So is this pretty much what is decided as the new branding for community stuff? :
 
@fbueckert TSW of course! :3 But uh, if you aren't looking for MMO, what exactly is your taste?
 
5:39 PM
@Shinrai I'm trying to stay away from MMOs, if at all possible.
I'll play D3 if I want online gaming. :P
 
@fbueckert Fair enough, haha. So what's your taste in RPGs and what platforms do you have available?
 
Well, I'm a big fan of JRPGs, space games, or mecha type stuff.
 
user2334
@agent86 Not coincidentally, that's another rule I think is being abused.
 
@Shinrai PS3 and Wii, and PC. My computer is a beast.
 
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Q: Unsolvable wow problems

user76014I have direct rendering enabled on my ati radeon 4200 I have changed all of my registry and game settings to make it work correctly and well. BUT WoW still wont run past 8 fps. I honestly have no other ideas Ive searched all over google and tried everything. Ive heard wow usually runs better on w...

 
5:40 PM
@agent86 Sometimes I feel that policy isn't being applied quite the way I intended when I brought up the subject.
 
@fbueckert Have you played Xenoblade or FF13-2 yet? I really liked both of those.
 
@Shinrai Platinumed 13-2. Xenoblade is getting played, actually.
 
@RedRiderX Emboss a Q and an A on the buttons? :)
 
@fbueckert I can't think of any other good recent JRPGs, haha. I usually break out the PS2 emulator when I want a JRPG fix, sooo
 
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Q: What is a good (non legendary) crafting item to invest in?

ayckosterSo basically I have a ton (400+) of Inferno Essences, because I salvage every iLvl 61+ item with less than 1000 gold vendor price in hope for a Fiery Essence. Now I want to "invest" those crafting materials in items. I know I have to buy a recipe eventually, but which one? My goal is to either g...

Is this okay?
 
5:42 PM
I think we're a little too aggressive on classifying questions as "why did the dev do it that way?" I mean, the bad ones are usually obviously bad. if we have to argue about if it's bad or not, it's probably okay
 
omg, I didn't realise today was Monday
what the hell
where did Sunday go
 
@James Hmm, interesting.
 
@Shinrai I should note that I own a launch PS3 specifically for the backwards compatibility.
 
@Shinrai I would've recommended Trails in the Sky if PSP was an option
 
@fbueckert And I am at a loss here man. I have been playing mostly adventure games as of late, not any RPGs :/
 
5:42 PM
@James Maybe an A and C.
 
@GraceNote Oh, yes. PSP and DS are also options.
 
@fbueckert Then pick it up if you haven't yet
 
@RedRiderX The Q was to fit the naming and spoof the A and B buttons :)
 
@fbueckert Well if PS2 games are on the table, my go-to recommendation is always "play the entire Wild Arms series beginning to end"
 
However, those are more pickup and go gaming.
 
5:43 PM
@GraceNote I heard this was good, too!
 
@James Yeah.
 
@Shinrai Actually, I think I own most of these; I have a habit of buying REALLY rare RPGs, and never playing them.
 
@Shinrai Those are awesome games.
 
@fbueckert Not in this case, though
 
@GraceNote Hmm. I'll have to check that out, then.
 
5:44 PM
It's essentially a port - the original is JP PC only
 
Anyone?
 
I found a ragged copy of the original Magna Carta several years ago; anyone played that?
 
I'm gonna vote to close it if nobody inputs.
 
Maggie oh Maggie why dost thou betray me
11 heart containers and yet 2 points of damage
 
@fbueckert They are absolutely my favorites. Especially the newer ones. If you haven't played them, I can't suggest them highly enough - criminally underrated.
 
5:45 PM
@GnomeSlicE It seems pretty localized; there's no real item that's absolutely the best ever to craft.
 
And I also have a shelf full of really niche or rare RPGs I haven't played.
(Shameful admission: I still haven't played Persona 3 or 4...)
 
I also own most of Suikoden.
 
@fbueckert Those go downhill as the series progresses, but 1 and 2 are amazing games.
 
@fbueckert Does it have to be the best ever? Or can we compile a good answer of top-quality picks?
 
@Shinrai Especially 2
 
5:47 PM
@GraceNote The problem is that all the rares are entirely random in what they give you.
Crafting two items back to back could result in absolute crap the first time, and completely godly the next time.
 
@fbueckert Yeah, there's no way you can ever guarantee that Item X will be better than most other options even a high percentage of the time
 
@fbueckert Sounds like this is relevant information for the asker to be aware of, if not also a list of what general enchantments are desirable
 
@GraceNote And this depends too much on what is currently in vogue in the auction house. Or what class they're crafting it for.
 
@fbueckert Sounds like the question is too vague, then.
 
@Shinrai The strange thing is, I'm not a big fan of the upscaling that gets done to PSX and PS2 games, but I absolutely adore SNES games.
 
5:50 PM
Let's take Lethal Application for a moment. Is there a single best weapon? No. But some weapons still shine vastly above the rest, there's definitely sets of recommendable weapons (synergistic or otherwise, circumstantial or otherwise), which would warrant "What are the best weapons?" as merely misguided rather than unacceptable.
 
@fbueckert Speaking of awesome 16-bit games, not really an RPG but Monster World IV is on PSN now! Soooooooooo good.
 
Shining Force II
 
Anyone who owns a PSP, and hasn't picked up the Tactics Ogre remake, is dead inside.
 
\o/
 
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Q: What are the best craftables in Diablo 3?

NicoI'm thinking of buying plans to craft armor or even weapons, which crafting plans are the best out there?

That seems quite similar to the question we're talking about.
Not nearly as vague, but in the same general line.
 
5:53 PM
@fbueckert Bringing up LA was more of a followup to my original statement, which was, "Is this possible?". It isn't a judgment that's identical for all games - sometimes there's either too many factors involved, or the question is better directed in another direction.
 
@GraceNote I'm afraid Lethal Application is unknown to me.
 
I don't personally know enough about craftables to know how exactly they work in terms of consistency, because the fact it's being asked as such implies there's enough consistency that the consistent parts are what is desired to be ranked.
 
user2334
@fbueckert How long did it take you to do the bestiary completion fragment? That's the one I keep putting off (and the two Void Beyond paradox endings, but I think I can knock those out pretty quickly)
 
@fbueckert Didn't really need to be - point would be identical if I picked any game to which there are recommendable items/concepts/strategies.
 
@MarkTrapp More tedious than hard, except for the Proto-Behemoth in Academia 500 AF. That thing will destroy you even at maxed out Crystarium, if you're not prepared for it.
@GraceNote The items for D3 are too vague to go, "This is the best item you can get".
 
5:57 PM
@fbueckert Then that should be the judgment on the question
 
user2334
@fbueckert Yeah, that's what I'm wondering: how many hours did it take you? I feel like it's going to add another 10-15 hours to my playtime so I've kept ignoring it
 
@MarkTrapp It didn't take me too long; I had to go back for a couple specific enemies, but not too many. I'd say roughly an extra five hours or so?
 
user2334
Ah that's not that bad
 
12 hearts and a one up... and 2 points of damage. Not gonna make it
 
@MarkTrapp Yeah, about an evening; it usually takes longer to find it than it does to kill it.
 
user2334
5:59 PM
I take it you used Kill: Libra accessories too?
 
The Don Tonberry is fun, too; and you need to capture one for a trophy.
 
user2334
Yeah, that one I have yet to find either.
 
@MarkTrapp I don't recall exactly what I used; knowing me, probably dual Durable Collector's Catalogs.
 
user2334
I was also trying to get OP monsters for the sake of having them and finishing all the coliseum battles. Ah, FF13-2: you'll go un 100%ed like all the other Final Fantasies.
 
@MarkTrapp Yeah; there was no point in getting crazy strong monsters, as the end boss was easily beatable without them.
 
6:01 PM
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Q: How can I effectively run away from hostile mobs?

JamesSo, I have been playing quite a bit of The Secret World over the weekend and have worked my way through the main story line in Kingsmouth. I have noticed two things. First is that when I run into something that can squash me, usually by accident, I have a very hard time getting away. Second is t...

 
I'm still hoping Squeenix puts out a full DLC pack at a reduced price. Ever the optimist, I am!
 
Finally... tears up T_T
after mom
now with 4 hearts
 
Hmm. I'm wondering if a complete FF playthrough would keep me busy for a while.
Except 11 and 14. Those don't end.
 
lol, the dollar. In Womb 1. With half heart.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
@GraceNote and that's why I pinged you. No matter how clearly I think you've stated your position, I always find it's practically the opposite of what I thought it was :P
 
6:07 PM
@QAdp do you still have the shell game guy?
 
@MarkTrapp seems like you've got more meta'ing to do then :)
 
@murgatroid99 The one up? Yes, but I still won't get anything done with 2 damage and 4 fire rate
My main source of damage is the dead bird :/
 
@QAdp wait, what? I was talking about the thing in the arcade
 
Ironically, we created this "guidance/policy/magic hand wavey thing" after I suggested we wait and re-open a mass effect 3 question: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/q/4051/13845
 
@agent86 I think it's more difference in perspective on said position.
 
6:11 PM
Sorry, was busy defeating two geminis, three fourths green
@murgatroid99 no such thing - wheel of fortune tarot card
 
@QAdp oh
 
2 hearts and the gamekid active. I guess I'll find bosses from here on then!!
4 hearts :/
1½ :\
Death :\
12 :(
 
@GraceNote I don't really see that much room for perspective or interpretation in what you said on that question. that it's been enforced in the manner it has been is surprising?
 
...11 and meat cube ×2. gg
 
@tiddy wait this is on PSN?!
 
6:15 PM
@agent86 Give me a moment to more collect my words when I'm not in the middle of summat and maybe I can phrase myself more clearly (as to what I'm saying in here, not what I said back then)
 
I'm just chuckling that we did things on a case-by-case basis, and then this seemingly very hard-and-fast (but not really!) guidance came along that disagreed, and now the pendulum's swinging back towards case-by-case.
and each time I get into a discussion about it and get to change my mind about what I think is the best course of action :)
 
@Shinrai A few more suggestions, if you have any, would not be amiss. :)
 
yay coins! keys! just what I needed!
 
I think it's less "case-by-case" and more "exceptions exist", if that makes sense.
 
@fbueckert I'll hafta think on it a bit, tied up with work on the other monitors lol
 
user2334
6:18 PM
Guidance on SE, as I understand it, is more like Asimov's Three Laws. "1. Provide quality answers to relevant questions. 2. Do X thing except when such thing would conflict with the first law." The second clause is always implied.
 
But there's always Xenogears :3
 
@Shinrai I hear ya on that. :P
@Shinrai That's a tough one to find.
 
@fbueckert You've never played it then? Find it.
...actually, it may be on PSN, I forget
 
@Shinrai The "used game" shop in town likes to price things at their absolute highest market value. They had a boxed copy of SNES Ogre Battle priced at $150.
So, I'm not a huge fan of them. At all.
 
12th round of spawns from It Lives, it's at 80% health
this is going to be Funâ„¢
 
6:22 PM
@MarkTrapp the "why did the dev do it that way" questions were also something I didn't precisely get (when they're answerable). feel free to crusade against both, since it seems like there's far less opposition to our viewpoint than I had assumed.
 
@fbueckert Geez, screw those guys. That said, I looked and Xenogears is on PSN, so...yeah. That. Do that.
 
@fbueckert I actually still own a copy that I bought a long time ago. I own very few PSX games, but that one is among them. It's OK, the back half feels rushed and weird, but it's overall pretty fun.
what are we suggesting here, btw?
 
@agent86 Games to take over my OCD. :P
 
@fbueckert erm, care to be more specific about what triggers your OCD?
 
Seriously, though, just some new (for me) RPGs to play.
 
6:26 PM
ah.
what platforms do you have available?
 
Bah. PC, Wii, PS3. There.
 
recently I played a fan translation of the DS SaGa 2 remake, which is a solid RPG from the golden age of the game boy era. It was released here in the states as "final fantasy legend 2" I believe
the translation was kind of so-so, but the game itself is quite good.
probably among my all-time favorite portable RPGs
 
Hey, that reminds me; I still have Sieken Desetsu 3 to play.
 
@fbueckert I think I got halfway through this, put it aside, and then moved on.
I assume you've played all the final fantasy tactics games?
and if tactical is OK by you, the Front Mission series?
 
I own quite a few rare PS2 RPGs that I have yet to play; Magna Carta is in the pile, but I was wondering if anyone's played them.
@agent86 Love tactical games! But unfortunately, don't own very many of the Front Missions.
Space games (4X, or otherwise), or mecha games are also acceptable.
 
6:30 PM
@fbueckert very few were released in the states. There's a DS port of the first one, I think. I believe only one of the PS2-era ones made it over, 4?
I had a few rare-ish PS2 RPGs, Odin Sphere and Grim Grimoire (sp?) come to mind.
 
@agent86 That's probably the one I own, then. Can't say I've actually played it, though.
@agent86 Own Odin Sphere. Love it.
Haven't tried Grim Grimoire yet. Pretty sure I own it.
 
@fbueckert ooh, if you like tactical RPGs with robots, FM4 is very, very good.
@fbueckert that one's almost more an RTS game. challenging, but fun.
 
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Q: How is experience handled outside of groups?

StrixVariaI've been exploring the first real quest area after joining the Illuminati, and (expectedly) found a bunch of other people also wandering around, killing zombies. If I decide to help someone kill a few zombies without grouping up with him, how is experience handled in that case? Am I stealing ex...

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Q: How can I predict whether I will be able to take on a specific enemy or group?

StrixVariaI know in many other MMORPGs, it is standard for health bars or other parts of an enemy's information to be marked in different colors depending on how difficult that encounter will be. Is there any similar system for The Secret World? I noticed that the enemy's name can vary in color, but does ...

 
@fbueckert I liked Odin Sphere, except for it lagged a lot and many of the encounters were repeats.
I don't think I 100%'ed it, simply because it annoyed me :/
 
@agent86 I should just photograph my video game shelves and put it to a community vote. :P
 
6:32 PM
@fbueckert hah
 
Wtf kind of mail carrier doesn't carry slips to sign for the packages they are delivering!? I have to wait until tomorrow to get a package that I had in my hands because the idiot forgot the most basic part of their job...
 
I sold a vast swath of my PS2 and GC games last year. Just realized I'd beaten most of them and never planned to return
 
@agent86 I'm a packrat; games come into my hands and they never leave.
 
@fbueckert I used to be this way, but times have changed :(
 
@Fluttershy That's bogus; I would've told him to come back later, and kept the package.
@agent86 Yeah, they do that.
I figure I'll eventually introduce my progeny to what the height of gaming USED to be.
 
6:35 PM
@fbueckert I wanted to, but she grabbed it and took off before I even had the chance.
 
@Fluttershy Methinks it's time to call up the delivery company and tear them a new one.
 
@fbueckert Seconded.
 
@StrixVaria Thirded
 
@fbueckert Unseconded.
People make mistakes. Raging at us if fine, let off steam, et cetera. but I don't think callling up the company and raging over a simple mistake is a good idea.
 
@Wipqozn The problem is that the employee has forgotten a basic component of her job. The very reason for her job is to deliver packages.
If she is unable to do that, that indicates there is either a training problem (on the company's end), or an attitude problem (on the employee's end). Either way, letting the company know will help them do their job.
 
6:42 PM
@fbueckert She forgot to bring something. It's a simple enough mistake to make. she probably delivers, what? a few hundred packages a week?
It's perfectly understandable she's going to just slip up and forgot that slip every now and again.
 
@Wipqozn So it's ok for someone to hand you a package, go, "Oh, wait, you need to sign for that!", tell you they forgot the piece of paper you have to sign, and run away?
 
@fbueckert Yes, letting them know is fine, but "ripping them a new one" is not.
@fbueckert It's probably policy.
If she just gave it to him she could have been fired, you don't know.
 
@Wipqozn If she's done this job for more than a week, it should be standard practice to ensure you have all your equipment before you leave home base.
 
@fbueckert Standard practice, but mistakes happen.
no one is perfect. no one.
People are going to make mistakes.
 
Wow, I beat it lives
in just 20 different rounds!
now to get murdered in sheol!
 
6:46 PM
@QAdp Good job.
NOw do it with your eyes closed.
 
overkill. Death can simply kill me
 
@Wipqozn I agree that mistakes happen; what I don't agree with is going to deliver a package, and at that point, realize you're missing a key piece of equipment.
 
and then run through the door mid-fight, meet greed and die
you just can't do it with basic damage :/
@Wipqozn unless you're Grace
 
Unless this was her first package of the day, and even then, before getting out of your vehicle, you should make sure you have everything you need.
 
(see what I did thar)
 
6:48 PM
@QAdp YEs, but @GraceNote is a robot ninja. She doesn't count.
 
I thought Grace was a bullet. I mean, I still have to meet man who can outsmart bullet.
sigh, even just one devil room would've saved me
(maybe if I got one I would've got a quarter and the cat)
 

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