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Bob
1:43 AM
Basically if you're running Win7 (or, god forbid, XP) or Server 2008/R2 (or 2003)
 
 
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3:21 AM
What's your favourite Windows 'feature'? Mine is when you wait 15 minutes for search results to finally appear when searching in Explorer, then when you open a folder and hit back it has apparently forgotten everything it just found.
 
4:13 AM
Just came back from covering this event. Third time I've covered this banquet.
 
4:31 AM
...welp. Flashgun's been like this for a while, but it gets worse with each use. Just the nature of the beast.
(not the smaller flashgun that I just got for my FZ1000, but the big, high-output one I've used with my Pentax DSLR for several years)
Not broken, but between this, a flashtube that appears quite badly cracked from close examination, and a broken battery door that needs to be held shut with gaffer tape, I might need to replace it soon.
When you have to fire this thing at full power 300+ times in a three-hour period, this is pretty much inevitable.
Flashguns with guide number 50 meters or higher (most pro-grade models are rated at about 58) are prone to doing this. Smaller units, typically with GN ~36, are less likely to scorch up their lenses like this.
And yes, this is a GN 58 flash.
(at ISO 100, zoom head at 105 mm)
 
 
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6:19 AM
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Q: Is there a "no-spy, no-backdoors standard" for telecom hardware manufacturing?

uhohThe BBC News article Huawei says willing to sign 'no-spy' agreements says: Huawei has also said it is independent from the Chinese government, but some countries have blocked it from their 5G networks on national security grounds. A recent report suggested the UK could allow Huawei's tel...

thoughts?
 
 
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8:22 AM
morning
 
8:44 AM
@uhoh basically completely open source everything
At least for your client
 
@MichaelFrank it took me a minute to understand what was going on there ... ;-)
 
@MichaelFrank how does trhat work?
this is why i came to dislike centos
it seems too easy to 'break' the entire system, and their answer is to reinstall... (this was years ago, may of improved since).
 
I dunno... yum remove plex* worked fine.
So I think what was happening there is that the 1.15 installer was broken. Luckily I had an older version sitting in the downloads folder.
 
9:10 AM
has anyone else had the noticed from DO about kernal updates?
 
9:24 AM
wtf
I just got the '60 helpful flags' (or is it 80?!) from..... Graphic Design?
I don't know the last time i even went on that site
errr u wot sensors
 
@djsmiley2k from smokey?
 
oooooo maybe :D
can I see the flags 'I' raised, somewhere?
 
10:20 AM
@Bob It's actually really cool how MS continues to release updates for OSs that EOL-ed long ago
 
10:31 AM
@rahuldottech Extended support ends 2020, after that I'm doubtful they'll much, other than really critical stuff
 
10:46 AM
they shouldn't have made such a good OS in XP
 
11:11 AM
:D
It really wasn't.
 
compared to WinME or Vista?
 
That's kinda the thing
It was sandwiched between terrible OSes
Same as 7
 
8 wasn't too bad once you got 8.1 installed
 
11:49 AM
ME was bad. Vista was just bad UI (resource heavy) plus terrible pc builders.
 
12:21 PM
not making sure the machines they build were upto spec for the OS
It's like imagine a 'gaming os' where the OS is as colourful and graphical as a game
imagine the requirements of it
build a PC to run it
now, gaming os 1.5 is out, but why upgrade the hardware? it'll just about run
so keep the same hardware and wooo, people crying
Hell, you can still buy PC's with 2Gb ram ffs
 
12:33 PM
Hah
10 isn't bad with a gig with semi fast storage
 
12:55 PM
for swapping?
/me hands @bob 0.5Gb ram, and tells him @JourneymanGeek said it'll be fine
:D
 
not true, he said 1GB
 
1:11 PM
oh :D
/me hands @bob anotehr stick
 
1:24 PM
message recieved
 
1:43 PM
 
not as good as the XKCD phone
 
2:36 PM
How come Jemery Kyle gets shutdown due to one suicide, but Love Island with at least 2 keeps going?
 
whowhat?
 
@djsmiley2k i didn't think it was a suicide
@JourneymanGeek remember jerry springer? the uk has someone who wishes he was jerry springer and deals with the absolute scum of society
 
ahhhhhh
ok
and the other is one of those soft-core 'reality' shows I suppose?
 
love island, yeah
 
2:43 PM
teh jeremy kyle one
 
ah yes, not confirmed yet.
 
3:05 PM
I find it really hard to care about what people, who watch ITV, have to say
 
I'm told Glaswegians speak English, I don't understand a word of it though. — Separatrix 8 hours ago
Hey, I resemble that remark!
 
you could cancel the entire ITV ... it would reduce UK's waste
@bertieb I think the correct spelling is "Glasgovistanians"
 
(the preceding message was sent using Google's new "Glaswegian angry guttural noises" to English translator)
(clicks "show original") Argh ragh bagh haggis gerh heroin mergh shagh cider lager whisky BUCKFAST
 
3:22 PM
@tereško !!s/ITV/TV/
 
tru
 
3:52 PM
@bertieb I saw on your message on the suggestion edits queue and took the time to review it
1- indeed there is already a inline image, probably didn't render on my end, feel free to reject it :D 2- yeah, I noticed that but I forgot to put that because of the autocomplete of chrome, inline image in on the list xD
 
@CaldeiraG No worries, thanks for taking the time to review and reply :)
 
I thank you for taking the time to say to me that, I appreciate it!
 
so.... you know the IoTTSNBCTTI?
turns out we've had phillips hue in our building for the last 4 years
some scamp has put them on strobe mode
 
4:37 PM
lol
She was also fortunate to be hiding behind a wall that wasn't constructed of Explodium — Mohirl 58 mins ago
SPOILERS AHOY IF U CLICK THAT.
 
5:04 PM
> IoTTSNBCTTI
the what now?
Internet of things that sound nasty but can turn trolls insideout?
 
> Steam Summer Sale will begin on June 25th and last for two weeks, ending on July 9th.
 
I know I'm late to this... but yet another speculative execution vulnerability affecting Intel processors with Hyper-Threading Technology. The AMD Zen architecture is, yet again, unaffected.
 
For now.
I'm a big as AMD fan as anyone
but intels not changed the micro architecture in what, 8 years?
Zen is.... 2 years old?
 
Lets revisit this in 6 years and see if AMD don't have the same issues (which, you'd hope they don't anyway as they should of made sure they don't by then).
 
5:20 PM
@djsmiley2k are the FX-series CPUs affected?
 
By now, processor designers have an idea of what to do and what not to do to maintain security during speculative execution, to the extent possible without degrading performance.
Don't know. Nothing was said about that.
 
@tereško Dunno, is anyone attacking them?
 
This whole thing caught Intel by surprise. AMD happens to have designed their processors to be more robust against this kinds of attacks.
 
@bwDraco I don't think those are "security vulnerabilities" that are being discovered
it sounds more like a side-effect of Vault7 leaks and the recent popularity in poking around within IME
 
I mean, everyone involved was surprised when these vulnerabilities were discovered. AMD just happened to be in the better position.
 
5:22 PM
"it's not a bug, it's a feature" type of issue
 
you just made two opposing statements
 
I get that the NSA relies on this stuff to help keep Americans safe, but at what cost?
 
either AMD was supprised, or they planned around problems like this...
you can't plan around something you don't know about
@bwDraco lol
 
Will Americans die if they didn't do this?
@djsmiley2k Disregard my older message.
 
I think the speculative execution stuff genuinely came out of no where
 
5:24 PM
@djsmiley2k or they did not win the bid in those particular government contracts :D
 
@tereško :D
 
(whitepaper describing AMD's speculative execution implementation and why it is not vulnerable to these attacks)
 
5:58 PM
@bwDraco lmao
No offense to anyone
But it's honestly so f-ing ridiculous to see
in American media, news, and citizens
How in the interests of saving "american" lives, they completely disregard that no one else on the planet is any less human
And how it's completely 100% a-ok to do all sort of unethical and f-ed up stuff to save "American lives"
gimme a break
I don't mean to be offensive here
But it's astonishing just how often people from the "developed" countries lack the perspective to see what's going on beyond their borders
Yeah you guys figure out all sorts of vulnerabilities but then they always get leaked and exploited and then the victims are innocent people around the world
And this is just one of thousands of examples
 
And TBH, it's this kind of scaremongering that's distorting much of politics today.
 
Not to mention just how often when your three letter agencies come up with these vulns they actually end up targeting the press and journalists. And why? Because they're exposing the unethical crap such orgs do. The media is an important institution to keep the democracy in check but fuck yeh let's undermine it who needs that shit
@bwDraco I'm not talking about politics here. I'm talking about the general welfare of people around the world
I mean I just went on twitter for a minute and managed to come across this crap and now I've lost my mind: twitter.com/ChrisMartzWX/status/1128079242351316994
 
Fear and power.
 
@bwDraco I have no idea what this message of yours is supposed to mean. Please explain.
 
Those in power believe that they need these tools to keep the people safe. It's a combination of 1) a desire to gain and maintain power, and 2) a fear that if they did not use this power and something happens, people will protest against them for failure to do their job.
When something does happen, the scaremongers come out and use the event as justification for radical measures, without proper examination of the consequences of said measures.
 
6:13 PM
!!s/to keep the people safe/to remain in power/
 
And the news media, in an effort to make money from events like this, exaggerate their severity.
 
My brain is broken rn, I'll come back to this thread later
 
Like it or not, it's human nature. And much as we want to work around the less desirable parts of ourselves, it will most likely never be possible to gain complete control over our behavior and desires.
They say absolute power corrupts absolutely... the more I see this, the less I believe that we can fully solve the problems with human nature.
Yup. People shift from idealistic from cynical as they age, and therefore from liberal to conservative. I guess I'm not an exception.
And as much as I've worked to improve my behavior, I'm starting to feel that there are some parts of my personality and personal conduct that are completely immutable, that are set in stone.
Will our understanding of human psychology and sociology ever advance enough to let us fully suppress the baser aspects of ourselves? Only time will tell, and I'm starting to seriously doubt it.
 
6:29 PM
@bwDraco they are all fighting for eyeballs
fear and anger is best for producing shares on facebook
 
@bwDraco tell that to Shaolin Monks...
I for one welcome our AI overlords.
That which can decide, without fear, nor prejudice, nor broken reasoning nor any of the other issues humans face when trying to make a decision.
 
@bwDraco maybe, maybe not. Since you are in USA, if you think that you have shifted from left to right, it might not actually be true. The "larger left" seem to be moving further left in your country ... and thus leaving the behind people, who are tiny bit less susceptible to wild claims (which happen to be older people ... and by older I mean "over 25")
 
the left vs rigth thing is funny
nothing is as easily black and white as this
 
tell that to media :D
@djsmiley2k, your country isn't much better ... I have seem some of your media coverage regarding Sargon, it's quite special
 
Sargon?
 
6:40 PM
internet is amused and slightly terrified
 
Most of us don't drink the koolaid tho
 
you might have seen the "UKIP candidate talks about his rape comments" headlines somewhere
that reminds me - I need to look up who to vote for in the EU elections (I suspect the only options will be "shit" and "crap")
 
in stop the merry-go-round, yesterday, by Erik Darling
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
I should really start calling it GNU/Linux. We all should.
 
SO what you're saying is, I was wrong all this time calling Linux an OS
 
that too
:D
then again, only one who really cares about is Richard Stallman
 
6:49 PM
@CanadianLuke That is what I'm saying, yes
@tereško Yeah so idk if it's just me
 
Fire drill, BBL
 
but calling it just "Linux" really undermines the efforts that thousands of devs put into developing all the GNU utilities that make the OS in context what it is.
 
@CanadianLuke bash.org/?6441
 
haha
I once did a 'AFK.... the flat appears to be on fire'
 
@tereško Our firewall restricts access to bash.org... What quote is that one?
Firedrill is in 3 minutes, apparently
Waiting for students to have their attendance taken, then we're going
 
6:57 PM
'AFK, Tornado
 
^ that @CanadianLuke
also, your firewall is terrible
 
The firewall is provided by the ministry... We have no control over what it filters in terms of URLs
 
How do you know that you leave when the fire alarm goes off.

At least assuming it goes off a few times per week, so you already know it is a student smoking on the toilet
 
I'm immune to works fiurewall \o/
 
I could bypass it (SSH tunnel or VPN out), but I don't feel like doing that, especially if I'm about to run away
Firefox is my "proxy" browser that goes over my SSH tunnel to either home, or the Digital Ocean data centre
 
6:59 PM
Ah nice :)
 
7:27 PM
Back
 
7:43 PM
> Not looking for relationships or hookups
...why are you on a dating app then?
 
@rahuldottech why are you?!
 
@djsmiley2k meh. for either.
 
lol jeeez dude ¬_¬
 
I'm craving Gummy Bears so bad rn
 
go out. get drunk, oir something
 
7:47 PM
@djsmiley2k plan on getting drunk tomorrow. Celebrating my 18th birthday.
 
wooooooo
 
8:12 PM
Happy early birthday @rahuldottech
I just got my malduino :)
 
@CanadianLuke It was a couple weeks ago, but thanks!
@CanadianLuke ooooooooooooooooooooooh fun stuff!
I just made my own w/ a digispark
 
I'm planning on using it to automate setting up all the new computers this summer. I got the elite, so multiple scripts. I plan on getting into the default BIOS, then plugging it in, and setting it all up to boot into our imaging system (FOG)
I've got 1,500 computers to image this summer, so I want to automate as much as I can
 
wow jez
 
Yea... We don't have WDS or MDT, so we can't automate it. We use FOG instead, cause it's free
 
8:37 PM
@CanadianLuke you could also use it to get into the BIOS
And get more malduinos if possible
Plug in, press power button, move on to next PC
Do this a few times, and then retrieve the malduinos from the previous PCs and repeat
 
8:58 PM
My goal is to just automate the crap out of it... I don't mind waiting to open the BIOS, since each computer is going to be slightly different for how long to press the F12 key for
 
@CanadianLuke you can just make it hit F12 a dozen times (like you would) and then wait a few seconds before going ahead with the resr
 
9:20 PM
cc @Burgi
 
10:08 PM
yeah laravel is great
 
le sigh
My second Panasonic DMW-FL360L has stopped working and needs to be serviced under warranty. Just shot Panasonic an email.
(panacare@us.panasonic.com)
If this happens again, I'm getting a Metz mecablitz M400 instead.
 
10:42 PM
@rahuldottech RMS thanks you from the bottom of his internet-to-email perl script
 
10:57 PM
@rahuldottech Yea, I know... I just like being the one to go in to the BIOS manually :P
 
@CanadianLuke `lol ok
 
That malduino is pretty cool.
 

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